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bluemind December 25th 04 11:30 AM

Advice for an impoverished beginner.
 
I have $20 maximum and want a cheap radio. From what I've read so far
my choices are between Jwin, Coby and B+H. Which is best? I know none
of those are 'serious' sets but I have to start somewhere. TV audio
would be nice, and battery life is a consideration too. I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal. Thanks for
the help.


dxAce December 25th 04 12:44 PM



Radioman390 wrote:

I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal


Your bes bet is to pick up streaming audio from the BBC via the Internet.


He was looking for a 'radio'... do you know what that is?

Boggling.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Brian Hill December 25th 04 01:16 PM


"bluemind" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have $20 maximum and want a cheap radio. From what I've read so far
my choices are between Jwin, Coby and B+H. Which is best? I know none
of those are 'serious' sets but I have to start somewhere. TV audio
would be nice, and battery life is a consideration too. I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal. Thanks for
the help.


You can listen to stuff on those but I would recommend staying away from sw
sets with TV coverage. In my experience, every radio I've ever used with TV
reception was terrible. Those little am/sw sets like you stated above should
be fine. There's guys in here that know more about those little radios than
I do and they can tell you which one's best but stay away from those TV
reception types. Just my 2c


--
73 and good DXing.
Brian
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[email protected] December 25th 04 01:22 PM

A new $20.00 Shortwave radio sucks!! I own a bunch of Shortwave radio's
I bought for only a few bucks each at places such as Goodwill thrift
stores and fleamarkets and junk shops.
cuhulin


Jim December 25th 04 01:43 PM

go to ebay for a used radio. you can get an older multi-band radio for
that price. get an older analog type radio with the linear dial. you can
get a higher quality radio with better performance than a new $20
digitally tuned radio will have. then while you are listening and
learning about shortwave you can save for a $100 digital radio. by the
time you have saved you will know enough to really appreciate the
digital difference. great deals are out there for a patient buyer. i
have several $100- plus radios that i bought NEW for less than $50. in a
years time radioshack will close-out an expensive radio for half price
or less. in the end you can have more radio for less money while still
enjoying your larger and nicer (even if older) analog set the whole
time!


Harveyat8c43z0 December 25th 04 01:43 PM

Merry Christmas Dude..

IMHO, the reviews on www.radiointel.com
are worth looking into..
TRY try try
to get a Sangean 505A;
- Cost double th munney on sale, but does Way over $40 worth of performance..

H


I have $20 maximum and want a cheap radio. From what I've read so far
my choices are between Jwin, Coby and B+H. Which is best? I know none
of those are 'serious' sets but I have to start somewhere. TV audio
would be nice, and battery life is a consideration too. I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal. Thanks for
the help.










[email protected] December 25th 04 01:52 PM

Page Three,tain. www.angelfire.com/md2/Ldotvets
Perhaps some of y'all old Warriros might want to post something in
there?
cuhulin


Tim December 25th 04 01:55 PM

I tend to agree with the thrift store approach for this one, it may take
a few weeks of searching but when out and about stop in to local
Goodwill and Salvation Army - you'll get a great radio and help others
at the same time. I recently scored a Zenith Trans-Oceanic Royal 3000-1
for $19. Schwweeet! While your at it, rummage for some thrown away TV's,
depending on thier construction many have flyback transformers, newer
ones have switching power supply transformers that have #24 wire that
can be unwound and make a great inexpensive starter antenna. I got 65'
of #24 from a TV transformer once.

Tim H

bluemind wrote:
I have $20 maximum and want a cheap radio. From what I've read so far
my choices are between Jwin, Coby and B+H. Which is best? I know none
of those are 'serious' sets but I have to start somewhere. TV audio
would be nice, and battery life is a consideration too. I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal. Thanks for
the help.


DeWayne December 25th 04 02:12 PM


"Harveyat8c43z0" wrote in message
...
Merry Christmas Dude..

IMHO, the reviews on www.radiointel.com
are worth looking into..
TRY try try
to get a Sangean 505A;
- Cost double th munney on sale, but does Way over $40 worth of
performance..


Can't hold a candle to the Degen 1103 IMO.


H


I have $20 maximum and want a cheap radio. From what I've read so far
my choices are between Jwin, Coby and B+H. Which is best? I know none
of those are 'serious' sets but I have to start somewhere. TV audio
would be nice, and battery life is a consideration too. I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal. Thanks for
the help.












D. Martin December 25th 04 03:39 PM

Inferior, and inexpensive junk, will do nothing but frustrate you.
Save-up a few bucks, and get something decent. Thrift stores might yield
a buried treasure. Just exercise a little patience, maybe utilize an old
coffee can for a "piggy-bank". Darren





http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/L...mes/page2.html


tianli December 25th 04 04:05 PM

I have $20 maximum and want a cheap radio.

Not to be flippant but... Get a paper route and save up a few clams.

Seriously. Otherwise you would have wasted your hard earned $20.



Radioman390 December 25th 04 04:54 PM

I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal


Your bes bet is to pick up streaming audio from the BBC via the Internet.


He was looking for a 'radio'... do you know what that is?


Yeah, if you read his post carefully, he specifically asked for " a good BBC
signal".

He thinks a SW radio is the way to get it.
Most Americans aren't aware of BBC streamimg audio.

More importantly, he is a program (content) listener, rather than a DXer.

bluemind December 25th 04 04:59 PM

Thanks for the thrift store idea... I'll check into that.


dxAce December 25th 04 05:11 PM



Radioman390 wrote:

I live in the
boonies of WV, and will be happy if I get a good BBC signal

Your bes bet is to pick up streaming audio from the BBC via the Internet.


He was looking for a 'radio'... do you know what that is?


Yeah, if you read his post carefully, he specifically asked for " a good BBC
signal".


I read it very carefully... first sentence: "I have $20 maximum and want a cheap
radio."

Please try to pay attention, and have a happy holiday.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



bluemind December 25th 04 09:20 PM

Yeah, the want of a radio is kinda why I posted in the shortwave group.
Thanks :)


[email protected] December 26th 04 01:24 AM

You might check out the surplus auctions in your state too for
radio's.Do a search for them and run an ad in your hometown
newspaper.You never know what might turn up.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 26th 04 02:13 AM

I agree.Checking out ebay first is a good choice.
cuhulin


D. Martin December 26th 04 05:19 AM

AM and FM radios are common, and cheap. Listening to shortwave s a
fussier and more fickle proposition. It actually takes some pro-active
effort to make shortwave listenable. Inferior radio sets will only
further exacerbate your quest for alternative programming. Money can
make it happen for you. The Kaito 1101 is the cheapest well-working
shortwave that I know of. Darren





http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/L...mes/page2.html


Robinlearns December 27th 04 11:50 PM

Thrift stores are the way to go. Does anybody know of any thrift stores
that sell their radio stuff through the internet?

learned & unlearned,
-Robin

"The first problem for all of us, men and women, is not to learn, but to
unlearn." -Gloria Steinem

Calendar of Zine Expos -
http://www.freewebs.com/robinscalendarofzineexpos


Michael Lawson December 28th 04 10:36 PM


"DeWayne" wrote in message
...

"Harveyat8c43z0" wrote in message
...
Merry Christmas Dude..

IMHO, the reviews on www.radiointel.com
are worth looking into..
TRY try try
to get a Sangean 505A;
- Cost double th munney on sale, but does Way over $40 worth of
performance..


Can't hold a candle to the Degen 1103 IMO.


The Degen is also way more expensive than $20, too.

My vote is to go check eBay and the thrifts. A ham
radio swap meet isn't a bad idea either. I picked up a
direct drive turntable at one for $10, which was a real
steal since the turntable itself only needed minor
tweaking to get to good operation.

--Mike L.





DeWayne December 29th 04 01:42 AM


"Michael Lawson" wrote in message
...

Can't hold a candle to the Degen 1103 IMO.


The Degen is also way more expensive than $20, too.

My vote is to go check eBay and the thrifts. A ham
radio swap meet isn't a bad idea either. I picked up a


Just make sure the radio works before you pay for it.

direct drive turntable at one for $10, which was a real
steal since the turntable itself only needed minor
tweaking to get to good operation.

--Mike L.







D. Martin December 29th 04 02:32 PM

I'll sell you my Kaito KA 1101 for 50 bucks, and not a penny less.
Darren





http://community-2.webtv.net/DEMEM/L...mes/page2.html


[email protected] December 29th 04 08:34 PM

your response is a bit illogical and typical of the recent decline in
shortwave broadcasting. you assume that everyone in the US has a nice
internet connection.
he mentions he is in the boonies and is impoverished. logically we can
conclude that his internet access is not one favorable to steaming
audio for hours at a time. wemust also conclue he has only one phone
line and that it would be not good to tie it up for periods at a time.


I suggest the gentleman search for a USED radio, probably one that is
not in the best of cosmetic condition but is a good performer. These
radios are out there.

Mr. Spock of Vulcan


[email protected] December 29th 04 08:41 PM

this would be a good buy for about $15 !

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW


[email protected] December 29th 04 08:44 PM

here is an unbiased review your perusal
http://www.radiointel.com/review-kaitowrx911.htm

Mr. Spock of Vulcan


Brian Hill December 30th 04 12:18 AM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
...
On Wed 29 Dec 2004 03:34:49p,
wrote in message
oups.com:

your response is a bit illogical and typical of the recent
decline in shortwave broadcasting. you assume that everyone
in the US has a nice internet connection.
he mentions he is in the boonies and is impoverished.
logically we can conclude that his internet access is not
one favorable to steaming audio for hours at a time. wemust
also conclue he has only one phone line and that it would
be not good to tie it up for periods at a time.


I suggest the gentleman search for a USED radio, probably
one that is not in the best of cosmetic condition but is a
good performer. These radios are out there.

Mr. Spock of Vulcan


No offense intended, but I have to blurt this out...

This has to be the *worst* "Spock" I've come across in quite
some time on usenet. Now, I've seen some bad ones - really bad
ones - but this one shudders takes the entire cake! It would
be humorous if it weren't so awful...

-=jd=-


I'd say something jd but I don't want him pulling the Vulcan Death Grip on
me. :)

P.S. If he tries the mind probe on me, he's a gonner! Nobody has ever
survived!!!!!!!! Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

B.H.



[email protected] December 30th 04 12:19 AM

to be at the forefront of whatever one does is a noble proposition !
live long and SWL


m II December 30th 04 01:57 AM

wrote:

to be at the forefront of whatever one does is a noble proposition !



Shoveling out stables?




mike

Brian Hill December 30th 04 03:08 AM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
...
On Wed 29 Dec 2004 07:18:03p, "Brian Hill"
wrote in message :


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
...
On Wed 29 Dec 2004 03:34:49p,
wrote in message
oups.com:

your response is a bit illogical and typical of the
recent decline in shortwave broadcasting. you assume
that everyone in the US has a nice internet connection.
he mentions he is in the boonies and is impoverished.
logically we can conclude that his internet access is
not one favorable to steaming audio for hours at a time.
wemust also conclue he has only one phone line and that
it would be not good to tie it up for periods at a time.


I suggest the gentleman search for a USED radio,
probably one that is not in the best of cosmetic
condition but is a good performer. These radios are out
there.

Mr. Spock of Vulcan


No offense intended, but I have to blurt this out...

This has to be the *worst* "Spock" I've come across in
quite some time on usenet. Now, I've seen some bad ones -
really bad ones - but this one shudders takes the entire
cake! It would be humorous if it weren't so awful...

-=jd=-


I'd say something jd but I don't want him pulling the
Vulcan Death Grip on me. :)

P.S. If he tries the mind probe on me, he's a gonner!
Nobody has ever survived!!!!!!!!
Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

B.H.



The... PAAAAIIIIInnnnnnnn!!

Actually, I never got to see that episode where he did the
mind-reading thing with a rock, but a friend is an *avid* (way
overboard) collector of Star-Trek anything - she ensures I get
to hear more than I care to...

-=jd=-


I like boring my friends about radio propagation when I get drunk :)

B.H.



m II December 30th 04 03:20 AM

Brian Hill wrote:

I like boring my friends about radio propagation when I get drunk :)



Thash porpagashun Bri....











hic...hic....hic....



Brian Hill December 30th 04 03:25 AM


"m II" wrote in message
news:puKAd.31024$KO5.1191@clgrps13...
Brian Hill wrote:

I like boring my friends about radio propagation when I get drunk :)



Thash porpagashun Bri....




hic...hic....hic....



Oh! You too?

B.H.



m II December 30th 04 03:45 AM

Brian Hill wrote:
"m II" wrote in message
news:puKAd.31024$KO5.1191@clgrps13...

Brian Hill wrote:


I like boring my friends about radio propagation when I get drunk :)



Thash porpagashun Bri....




hic...hic....hic....




Oh! You too?



Not since the night we tore down Wilson's Yagi to show the peasants
how to toast twenty marshmallows at one time. Lots of sore heads the
next morning. I stopped drinking when I started getting chest pains
after a good night's boozing. The three day long hangovers added to
the incentive.




mike


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