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Mark December 30th 04 04:08 AM

About 900 meters.

Mark.
Auckland
New Zealand.

"tianli" wrote in message
...

According to some reports, the day might have been shortened by 3

microseconds.


How far does a HF radio signal travel in 3 microseconds?





tianli December 31st 04 03:26 AM


0.558 miles.


About 900 meters.


Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?



uncle arnie January 3rd 05 12:37 AM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:26, tianli posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM


0.558 miles.


About 900 meters.


Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?


speed of light or electricity is constant, never varies.

Brenda Ann January 3rd 05 01:03 AM


"uncle arnie" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:26, tianli posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM


0.558 miles.


About 900 meters.


Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?


speed of light or electricity is constant, never varies.


Not so. The constant applied to the speed of light applies only to the speed
of light in a vacuum. It slows down considerably when it hits atmosphere,
and much more when it hits water (this is what causes the refraction you see
when you put a straw in a glass of water)

Electricity is even more affected by the medium in which it travels. This
includes radio waves. Open atmosphere radio waves travel at ~95% of light
speed once they hit an antenna, some coax slows them down to as little as
60% of the speed of light (velocity factor)



Honus January 3rd 05 03:13 AM


"uncle arnie" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:26, tianli posted to
rec.radio.shortwave: %MM


0.558 miles.


About 900 meters.


Is that in empty space or in an atmosphere?


speed of light or electricity is constant, never varies.


Sorry, Uncle Arnie, but you're way off on this one. The question was right
on. The value that you so often hear given for the speed of light is its
speed in a vacuum, which is constant barring other factors (i.e. massive
bodies.)

Here's a link explaining the experiment 5 or so years ago in which
scientists slowed it down to a mere 38 miles an hour.

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/....18/light.html

"Light, which normally travels the 240,000 miles from the Moon to Earth in
less than two seconds, has been slowed to the speed of a minivan in
rush-hour traffic -- 38 miles an hour."

And to prevent anyone (and I don't mean you, Uncle) from claiming that
doesn't apply because it was due to human action or interference here's
another one:

http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view...eedlight000720

"Light travels slower in any medium more dense than a vacuum, which has no
density at all. For example, light travelling through glass slows to
two-thirds its speed in a vacuum. If the glass is altered, the light can be
slowed even further."

I used that Canadian link on purpose, by the way. gbg




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