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Lucky January 31st 05 11:35 AM

Cont':Lowe-150. Was It worth it?
 
Was this a good price?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

How much is the keypad for this radio worth?

Thanks
Lucky



Lucky January 31st 05 11:50 AM


"Lucky" wrote in message
...
Was this a good price?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

How much is the keypad for this radio worth?

Thanks
Lucky


OK I did some checking. I guess they go for about $50 or so.

BTW, is the Preselector for the 150 a very needed addition or are you good
to go as long you take overload precautions??? I read the 150 overloads
easily.

Lucky




Volker Tonn January 31st 05 11:59 AM

Lucky wrote:


BTW, is the Preselector for the 150 a very needed addition or are you good
to go as long you take overload precautions??? I read the 150 overloads
easily.


The Lowe preselectors are very rare in Europe. These are one of the best
preselectors ever made -except some military grade stuff- and worth
every cent.


Lucky January 31st 05 12:09 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:


BTW, is the Preselector for the 150 a very needed addition or are you
good to go as long you take overload precautions??? I read the 150
overloads easily.


The Lowe preselectors are very rare in Europe. These are one of the best
preselectors ever made -except some military grade stuff- and worth every
cent.


Do any other preselectors work well with this radio? But, yes, that PS looks
nice too.

Lucky



Hans January 31st 05 12:46 PM

The best:
PASSIVE preselector: RF Systems P-3

Hans


"Volker Tonn" schreef in bericht
...
Lucky wrote:


BTW, is the Preselector for the 150 a very needed addition or are you
good to go as long you take overload precautions??? I read the 150
overloads easily.


The Lowe preselectors are very rare in Europe. These are one of the best
preselectors ever made -except some military grade stuff- and worth every
cent.




Volker Tonn January 31st 05 12:54 PM

Lucky schrieb:


Do any other preselectors work well with this radio? But, yes, that PS looks
nice too.


The "Braun" preselector. It's better and even more rare and pricey.
The Yaesu FRT-7700 works fine with my Sony 2001D/2010.
This discontimued item sells used for the price as it was new....

I just don`t know a really good preselector wich is still manufactured.


Lucky January 31st 05 01:12 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...
Lucky schrieb:


Do any other preselectors work well with this radio? But, yes, that PS
looks nice too.


The "Braun" preselector. It's better and even more rare and pricey.
The Yaesu FRT-7700 works fine with my Sony 2001D/2010.
This discontimued item sells used for the price as it was new....

I just don`t know a really good preselector wich is still manufactured.


I have the FRA-7700

Lucky



Volker Tonn January 31st 05 01:31 PM

Lucky schrieb:

I have the FRA-7700


I have it too :-)
I have nodified it to feed an external antenna with BNC connector. So it
makes a fine selective HF preamp. I've this thing cascaded with the
FRT-7700.
It works fine with my Sony but it doesn't make anything better on my
NRD-525.


[email protected] January 31st 05 01:38 PM


Lucky wrote:
Was this a good price?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

How much is the keypad for this radio worth?

Thanks
Lucky


That's about the price I would have expected on Ebay. I've seen 'em go
for less, but I've seen 'em go for more, too.

I know a couple of folks who use highpass filters on their 150's. My
understanding is that, if you just suppress everything below 1700khz,
then you won't need anything like the Lowe preselector. Others may have
some first hand insights to offer here.

Also, as for the keypad, 150 owners might consider getting a remote
control unit for the Lowe instead. I think this will prove more
convenient and probably offer more in the way of functionality. Go to
www.swl-remotes.com and take a look. (I have no connection to
swl-remotes, other than being a satisfied customer.)

Steve


Lucky January 31st 05 01:39 PM


"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...
Lucky schrieb:

I have the FRA-7700


I have it too :-)
I have nodified it to feed an external antenna with BNC connector. So it
makes a fine selective HF preamp. I've this thing cascaded with the
FRT-7700.
It works fine with my Sony but it doesn't make anything better on my
NRD-525.


You can run it active with a 9 volt battery too.
But, the 150 has a built in preamp. But that's only for the whip right?
Still, you can clip a longwire to the antenna.

Lucky



Lucky January 31st 05 01:58 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...

Lucky wrote:
Was this a good price?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

How much is the keypad for this radio worth?

Thanks
Lucky


That's about the price I would have expected on Ebay. I've seen 'em go
for less, but I've seen 'em go for more, too.

I know a couple of folks who use highpass filters on their 150's. My
understanding is that, if you just suppress everything below 1700khz,
then you won't need anything like the Lowe preselector. Others may have
some first hand insights to offer here.

Also, as for the keypad, 150 owners might consider getting a remote
control unit for the Lowe instead. I think this will prove more
convenient and probably offer more in the way of functionality. Go to
www.swl-remotes.com and take a look. (I have no connection to
swl-remotes, other than being a satisfied customer.)

Steve


I would willing to pay a little more for one if it was in excellent cond
and the seller was superb. It's easy to get stuck with a bad radio nowadays.

Lucky



Volker Tonn January 31st 05 01:59 PM

Lucky schrieb:


You can run it active with a 9 volt battery too.
But, the 150 has a built in preamp. But that's only for the whip right?
Still, you can clip a longwire to the antenna.


This idea ist not that good for me. I like to feed the preamp with a
sinal from the attic 6th floor (my appartment is on base floor) and not
with computer noise :-) There are some unused chimneys I run some
coax-feedlines through. Unfortunately I'm forbidden to go on top of the
roof :-((


dxAce January 31st 05 02:07 PM



Volker Tonn wrote:

Lucky schrieb:


You can run it active with a 9 volt battery too.
But, the 150 has a built in preamp. But that's only for the whip right?
Still, you can clip a longwire to the antenna.


This idea ist not that good for me. I like to feed the preamp with a
sinal from the attic 6th floor (my appartment is on base floor) and not
with computer noise :-) There are some unused chimneys I run some
coax-feedlines through. Unfortunately I'm forbidden to go on top of the
roof :-((


Do you find that you need a pre-selector where you are at due to high signal
levels from various sources or is there another reason why you need one.

I've never found a reason here to use an 'outboard' pre-selector.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Volker Tonn January 31st 05 02:19 PM

dxAce schrieb:

Do you find that you need a pre-selector where you are at due to high signal
levels from various sources or is there another reason why you need one.

I've never found a reason here to use an 'outboard' pre-selector.


For sure I don't need this on the NRD-525 as you dont need one on the
Drake-R8B... :-)
But as I had the things available I gave it a try on the NRD too :-)
On the Sony the external antenna with the FRA/FRT combo works wonders.
You can use them together to passbandtune for much more seletivity than
the Yaesu FRT-7700 preselector alone is giving. For sure you have to
fiddle on the knobs a lot. This may be another thing with other brands.


dxAce January 31st 05 02:23 PM



Volker Tonn wrote:

dxAce schrieb:

Do you find that you need a pre-selector where you are at due to high signal
levels from various sources or is there another reason why you need one.

I've never found a reason here to use an 'outboard' pre-selector.


For sure I don't need this on the NRD-525 as you dont need one on the
Drake-R8B... :-)
But as I had the things available I gave it a try on the NRD too :-)
On the Sony the external antenna with the FRA/FRT combo works wonders.
You can use them together to passbandtune for much more seletivity than
the Yaesu FRT-7700 preselector alone is giving. For sure you have to
fiddle on the knobs a lot. This may be another thing with other brands.


Well, years ago, when I got back into the shortwave hobby (circa 1982 or so) I did
eventually purchase a FRT-7700 for use with the FRG-7700 which I had at the time.



Mark S. Holden January 31st 05 02:31 PM

Lucky wrote:

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...
Lucky schrieb:

I have the FRA-7700


I have it too :-)
I have nodified it to feed an external antenna with BNC connector. So it
makes a fine selective HF preamp. I've this thing cascaded with the
FRT-7700.
It works fine with my Sony but it doesn't make anything better on my
NRD-525.


You can run it active with a 9 volt battery too.
But, the 150 has a built in preamp. But that's only for the whip right?
Still, you can clip a longwire to the antenna.

Lucky


I'm pretty sure it's set up like the 7030. The whip connects to the regular
antenna jack. You can use the preamp with any antenna, but if it's a large one,
you should expect overloading.

Lucky January 31st 05 02:52 PM


"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:

"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...
Lucky schrieb:

I have the FRA-7700


I have it too :-)
I have nodified it to feed an external antenna with BNC connector. So
it
makes a fine selective HF preamp. I've this thing cascaded with the
FRT-7700.
It works fine with my Sony but it doesn't make anything better on my
NRD-525.


You can run it active with a 9 volt battery too.
But, the 150 has a built in preamp. But that's only for the whip right?
Still, you can clip a longwire to the antenna.

Lucky


I'm pretty sure it's set up like the 7030. The whip connects to the
regular
antenna jack. You can use the preamp with any antenna, but if it's a
large one,
you should expect overloading.


Ok that's better. I'm spoiled by the preamps on the R-75.

Lucky



[email protected] January 31st 05 06:48 PM

no, that is too much to pay for an HF-150, they are overrated. worth
less than $400 for sure


Mark S. Holden January 31st 05 07:18 PM

wrote:

no, that is too much to pay for an HF-150, they are overrated. worth
less than $400 for sure


It's a long time since I've seen one go for less than $400.

[email protected] January 31st 05 07:32 PM


wrote:
no, that is too much to pay for an HF-150, they are overrated. worth
less than $400 for sure


If you have one (in decent condition) that you'd like to sell for
around four hundred, just post something about it here. I don't think
you'll have ANY trouble making a sale!!

Steve


Lucky January 31st 05 09:05 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...
no, that is too much to pay for an HF-150, they are overrated. worth
less than $400 for sure


Do you own one? They seem to be highly sought after.

Lucky



[email protected] January 31st 05 10:07 PM

Yes, I picked one up not long ago. I wanted something that satisfied
the following conditions:

1. Is compact enough to carry around on "mini-DXpeditions"
2. Will yield better performance than a high end portable
3. Is well-built
4. Is reasonably priced, but a good value for the money

I decided that an HF-150 would be a good way (though by no means the
only way) to satisfy all these conditions. I'm enjoying it. I'm happy
with the purchase and am enjoying the receiver.

Steve


[email protected] January 31st 05 10:26 PM

I got an email yesterday from that married Irish woman over yonder
across the big pond.Mostly,it was about her thyroid gland test came back
benign and her 23 year old cat had jumped around and injured herself,,
sort of,but her cat is going to be ok and the woman's hubby has a
stomach gut problem.I haven't asked her about looking out for a Lowe
shortwave radio for me yet,but I am thinking about it.
cuhulin


[email protected] February 1st 05 12:17 AM

I used one for a while that belonged to a friend. it has some very
serious issues in my book


[email protected] February 1st 05 12:19 AM

a late production SW-8 is a much better receiver


Lucky February 1st 05 12:29 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...
I used one for a while that belonged to a friend. it has some very
serious issues in my book


What were the serious issues to you??

Lucky




[email protected] February 1st 05 12:35 AM

when using the selectable sync youare forced to use the 2.5 filter.
that is unacceptable.

the front end performance is not acceptable.

the IF filter options are very limited, TWO !

has no features to speak of, like bass and treble
short battery life

I don't remember some of the other issues


Dale Parfitt February 1st 05 05:23 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...
when using the selectable sync youare forced to use the 2.5 filter.
that is unacceptable.

the front end performance is not acceptable.

In EU maybe, but here in the states I have never had the 150 overload- even
when on a 4 element 20M yagi

the IF filter options are very limited, TWO !

But those 2 are nice filters. AM sync with the narrow filter sounds fine -
still has lots of highs.
has no features to speak of, like bass and treble

True- the SP-150 fills it out nicely, but they are not cheap. And having to
use it gets away from the portability.

short battery life
Not an issue with the NiMH batteries- mine with backlight goes well over 12
hrs.
I don't remember some of the other issues

Dale W4OP



Lucky February 1st 05 05:38 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...
when using the selectable sync youare forced to use the 2.5 filter.
that is unacceptable.

the front end performance is not acceptable.

the IF filter options are very limited, TWO !

has no features to speak of, like bass and treble
short battery life

I don't remember some of the other issues


2.5 in AM????

Isn't that a tad narrow for AM???

Lucky



Lucky February 1st 05 09:29 AM


"Dale Parfitt" wrote in message
news:jnELd.1493$Kj4.1244@trnddc09...

wrote in message
ups.com...
when using the selectable sync youare forced to use the 2.5 filter.
that is unacceptable.

the front end performance is not acceptable.

In EU maybe, but here in the states I have never had the 150 overload-
even
when on a 4 element 20M yagi

the IF filter options are very limited, TWO !

But those 2 are nice filters. AM sync with the narrow filter sounds fine -
still has lots of highs.
has no features to speak of, like bass and treble

True- the SP-150 fills it out nicely, but they are not cheap. And having
to
use it gets away from the portability.

short battery life
Not an issue with the NiMH batteries- mine with backlight goes well over
12
hrs.
I don't remember some of the other issues

Dale W4OP



Dale,

which piece of equipment is deemed more important for the 150. The
preselector or the SP-150? I was thinking for the money that those items
cost, one could buy a DSP unit for the 150 instead.

Lucky



Lucky February 1st 05 09:52 AM


"Dale Parfitt" wrote in message
news:jnELd.1493$Kj4.1244@trnddc09...

wrote in message
ups.com...
when using the selectable sync youare forced to use the 2.5 filter.
that is unacceptable.

the front end performance is not acceptable.

In EU maybe, but here in the states I have never had the 150 overload-
even
when on a 4 element 20M yagi

the IF filter options are very limited, TWO !

But those 2 are nice filters. AM sync with the narrow filter sounds fine -
still has lots of highs.
has no features to speak of, like bass and treble

True- the SP-150 fills it out nicely, but they are not cheap. And having
to
use it gets away from the portability.

short battery life
Not an issue with the NiMH batteries- mine with backlight goes well over
12
hrs.
I don't remember some of the other issues

Dale W4OP



Dale,

Will the SP150 make a very big difference?
Do you own one??

Lucky



[email protected] February 1st 05 04:04 PM


Lucky wrote:
"Dale Parfitt" wrote in message
news:jnELd.1493$Kj4.1244@trnddc09...

wrote in message
ups.com...
when using the selectable sync youare forced to use the 2.5

filter.
that is unacceptable.

the front end performance is not acceptable.

In EU maybe, but here in the states I have never had the 150

overload-
even
when on a 4 element 20M yagi

the IF filter options are very limited, TWO !

But those 2 are nice filters. AM sync with the narrow filter sounds

fine -
still has lots of highs.
has no features to speak of, like bass and treble

True- the SP-150 fills it out nicely, but they are not cheap. And

having
to
use it gets away from the portability.

short battery life
Not an issue with the NiMH batteries- mine with backlight goes well

over
12
hrs.
I don't remember some of the other issues

Dale W4OP



Dale,

which piece of equipment is deemed more important for the 150. The
preselector or the SP-150? I was thinking for the money that those

items
cost, one could buy a DSP unit for the 150 instead.

Lucky


If the HF-150 were my only or my primary receiver, then I'd spring for
a preselector, though probably not the PR-150. There are cheaper
preselectors that, I'm told, work fine with the 150. Same goes for the
speaker. Unless I wanted to put together a matching set for 'collector'
purposes, I'd look elsewehre.

My two cents...

Steve


Lucky February 1st 05 05:37 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Lucky wrote:
"Dale Parfitt" wrote in message
news:jnELd.1493$Kj4.1244@trnddc09...

wrote in message
ups.com...
when using the selectable sync youare forced to use the 2.5

filter.
that is unacceptable.

the front end performance is not acceptable.

In EU maybe, but here in the states I have never had the 150

overload-
even
when on a 4 element 20M yagi

the IF filter options are very limited, TWO !

But those 2 are nice filters. AM sync with the narrow filter sounds

fine -
still has lots of highs.
has no features to speak of, like bass and treble

True- the SP-150 fills it out nicely, but they are not cheap. And

having
to
use it gets away from the portability.

short battery life
Not an issue with the NiMH batteries- mine with backlight goes well

over
12
hrs.
I don't remember some of the other issues

Dale W4OP



Dale,

which piece of equipment is deemed more important for the 150. The
preselector or the SP-150? I was thinking for the money that those

items
cost, one could buy a DSP unit for the 150 instead.

Lucky


If the HF-150 were my only or my primary receiver, then I'd spring for
a preselector, though probably not the PR-150. There are cheaper
preselectors that, I'm told, work fine with the 150. Same goes for the
speaker. Unless I wanted to put together a matching set for 'collector'
purposes, I'd look elsewehre.

My two cents...

Steve


Ok then

I passed up on a PR-150 and Sp-150 that were on Ebay. They both had a Buy it
Now price of $250 which I thought was too much anyway. The SP-150 looks good
though and has the notch and s-meter.

Lucky




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