HF-150 Europa on Ebay?
 

Take a look at auction number 5748673688. One concern I'd have about
this auction is that the receiver in the photo in this ad does NOT
appear to be an HF-150 Europa. The Europa had "Europa" written at the
bottom of its face place, as seen in this photo:
http://www.rys.nl/hf150e.html. What's pictured in this ad is a
standard, black case HF-150...not a Europa. Now, maybe the seller has a
Europa, but pulled an image off a website without looking at it too
closely. Either way, I'd certainly get clear about this before bidding.
In fact, yet another complicating factor here is that some of the
standard HF-150's have a backlight option installed. This makes them
harder to distinguish from Europas.

Steve

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Take a look at auction number 5748673688. One concern I'd have about
this auction is that the receiver in the photo in this ad does NOT
appear to be an HF-150 Europa. The Europa had "Europa" written at the
bottom of its face place, as seen in this photo:
http://www.rys.nl/hf150e.html. What's pictured in this ad is a
standard, black case HF-150...not a Europa. Now, maybe the seller has a
Europa, but pulled an image off a website without looking at it too
closely. Either way, I'd certainly get clear about this before bidding.
In fact, yet another complicating factor here is that some of the
standard HF-150's have a backlight option installed. This makes them
harder to distinguish from Europas.

Steve


I've read the standard 150 is better then this one even though it has the
backlit option.
Is that true?

Lucky

Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big time
in business on ebay and the net

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Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big time
in business on ebay and the net


This sold for $350 with the keypad also?
Why so cheap????

Lucky

Lucky wrote:

wrote in message
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Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big time
in business on ebay and the net


This sold for $350 with the keypad also?
Why so cheap????

Lucky

The previous seller apparently didn't bother to check what they normally close
for, and put it up with a low "Buy it now".

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss in
sensitivity.

Lucky wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
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Lucky wrote:

wrote in message
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Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big time
in business on ebay and the net


This sold for $350 with the keypad also?
Why so cheap????

Lucky

The previous seller apparently didn't bother to check what they normally
close
for, and put it up with a low "Buy it now".

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss in
sensitivity.

Wow what a deal. If I didn't buy a 150 myself I would have grabbed this one.
Drats....

Lucky

What's the situation with parts for Lowe radios?

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"starman" wrote in message
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Lucky wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
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Lucky wrote:

wrote in message
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Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big
time
in business on ebay and the net


This sold for $350 with the keypad also?
Why so cheap????

Lucky

The previous seller apparently didn't bother to check what they
normally
close
for, and put it up with a low "Buy it now".

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take
the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss
in
sensitivity.

Wow what a deal. If I didn't buy a 150 myself I would have grabbed this
one.
Drats....

Lucky

What's the situation with parts for Lowe radios?
Parts are plentiful- however, due to insurance reasons, Lowe no longer ships
to the U.S. You would have to find an intermediary in EU. I stocked up on
displays, mixer and CPU's some time back.

Dale W4OP

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Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big time
in business on ebay and the net


I live 10 min from Frank.....

Lucky

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big time
in business on ebay and the net


This sold for $350 with the keypad also?
Why so cheap????

Lucky

The previous seller apparently didn't bother to check what they normally
close
for, and put it up with a low "Buy it now".

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss in
sensitivity.

Mark,

it says in this comparison between the 150 and the 150E, though there was
less images on the 150E, increased noise appeared on those frequencies. The
150E is surely less sensitive too. What do you think now?
http://www.anarc.org/naswa/issues/0798/equip0798.html

Lucky

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...
Frank bought this on ebay with a buy it now a month ago for $350

this si the famous "centerpoint" of several years ago, he went big time
in business on ebay and the net


This sold for $350 with the keypad also?
Why so cheap????

Lucky

The previous seller apparently didn't bother to check what they normally
close
for, and put it up with a low "Buy it now".

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss in
sensitivity.

He says:
"Incorporating these RF bandpass filters should theoretically reduce
spurious responses and noise. I compared the '150E to my early model '150.
When the original '150 was connected to my 90/60 meter parallel dipole,
there were several frequencies below 3 MHz which had images of local
broadcasters. With the '150E , there were no audible images present, but
there was increased noise on the same frequencies".

and

"I found that the original HF-150 was about 0.5 microvolts more sensitive
across the HF spectrum, however, the HF-150E was within specification of
less than two microvolts throughout the HF spectrum, and was typically in
the range of one microvolt. I think that the higher sensitivity of the
original may not be a virtue, given the radio's susceptibility for
overloading. I don't think that this difference is significant, and
switching in the pre-amp on the HF-150E improved the sensitivity to the
level of the '150 without pre-amp"

So basically he had to switch on the pre amp to bring it up to the 150's
sensitivity. If you don't live in areas with strong stations, I'd rather
have the sensitivity.

Plus, I didn't know the backlight option can't be turned off in the E. So,
it will drain your batteries if you ever use it as a portable.

Lucky

Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss in
sensitivity.


He says:
"Incorporating these RF bandpass filters should theoretically reduce
spurious responses and noise. I compared the '150E to my early model '150.
When the original '150 was connected to my 90/60 meter parallel dipole,
there were several frequencies below 3 MHz which had images of local
broadcasters. With the '150E , there were no audible images present, but
there was increased noise on the same frequencies".

and

"I found that the original HF-150 was about 0.5 microvolts more sensitive
across the HF spectrum, however, the HF-150E was within specification of
less than two microvolts throughout the HF spectrum, and was typically in
the range of one microvolt. I think that the higher sensitivity of the
original may not be a virtue, given the radio's susceptibility for
overloading. I don't think that this difference is significant, and
switching in the pre-amp on the HF-150E improved the sensitivity to the
level of the '150 without pre-amp"

So basically he had to switch on the pre amp to bring it up to the 150's
sensitivity. If you don't live in areas with strong stations, I'd rather
have the sensitivity.

Plus, I didn't know the backlight option can't be turned off in the E. So,
it will drain your batteries if you ever use it as a portable.

Lucky



I'd be interested in hearing more about the "increased noise" in the
Europa - the reviewer didn't say anything other than he noticed it. Who
knows if it's significant?

I bring plenty of power for recharging battery packs when I'm camping.
I'd gladly trade the convenience of a backlight for a little battery
drain.

Unless you've taken heroic measures or live in the woods, odds are the
noise floor for your antenna will be higher than 2 microvolts.

My primary home antenna is 225 feet away from the house, with
underground coax, and according to my Harris, the noise floor is right
around the limit of the Europa.

If you were using the radio to chase DX in the woods, you could use an
outboard preamp or an active antenna.

When I was looking for a HF-150e or a 7030+ my primary concern was
finding a good radio for use when camping, and for when I'm hanging out
by the pool or fishing for snook on the other side of Alligator Alley.

The HF-150e had the edge on size and would probably have cost less, the
7030+ had the edge on performance, and availability.

Both radios were designed by the same person.

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss in
sensitivity.


He says:
"Incorporating these RF bandpass filters should theoretically reduce
spurious responses and noise. I compared the '150E to my early model
'150. When the original '150 was connected to my 90/60 meter parallel
dipole, there were several frequencies below 3 MHz which had images of
local broadcasters. With the '150E , there were no audible images
present, but there was increased noise on the same frequencies".

and

"I found that the original HF-150 was about 0.5 microvolts more
sensitive across the HF spectrum, however, the HF-150E was within
specification of less than two microvolts throughout the HF spectrum, and
was typically in the range of one microvolt. I think that the higher
sensitivity of the original may not be a virtue, given the radio's
susceptibility for overloading. I don't think that this difference is
significant, and switching in the pre-amp on the HF-150E improved the
sensitivity to the level of the '150 without pre-amp"

So basically he had to switch on the pre amp to bring it up to the 150's
sensitivity. If you don't live in areas with strong stations, I'd rather
have the sensitivity.

Plus, I didn't know the backlight option can't be turned off in the E.
So, it will drain your batteries if you ever use it as a portable.

Lucky



I'd be interested in hearing more about the "increased noise" in the
Europa - the reviewer didn't say anything other than he noticed it. Who
knows if it's significant?

I bring plenty of power for recharging battery packs when I'm camping. I'd
gladly trade the convenience of a backlight for a little battery drain.

Unless you've taken heroic measures or live in the woods, odds are the
noise floor for your antenna will be higher than 2 microvolts.

My primary home antenna is 225 feet away from the house, with underground
coax, and according to my Harris, the noise floor is right around the
limit of the Europa.

If you were using the radio to chase DX in the woods, you could use an
outboard preamp or an active antenna.

When I was looking for a HF-150e or a 7030+ my primary concern was finding
a good radio for use when camping, and for when I'm hanging out by the
pool or fishing for snook on the other side of Alligator Alley.

The HF-150e had the edge on size and would probably have cost less, the
7030+ had the edge on performance, and availability.

Both radios were designed by the same person.


Yes who knows how significant the noise was but if he noticed it, it must of
stood out enough. Still, you can't really be sure it can be reproduced on
all the E models unless you had at least 3 to test it on at the very same
time.

But as they said it was produced mainly for the Euro market where conditions
are different then where we live. With that gothic gold "Europa" label
across the radio it kinda reminds of me of a mini Dracula's coffin :)

Mark you don't mean Alligator Alley in Florida do you? Nah they got
alligators in alley's in most states nowadays...

Lucky

Lucky wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...

Lucky wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd take
the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any loss
in
sensitivity.


He says:
"Incorporating these RF bandpass filters should theoretically reduce
spurious responses and noise. I compared the '150E to my early model
'150. When the original '150 was connected to my 90/60 meter parallel
dipole, there were several frequencies below 3 MHz which had images of
local broadcasters. With the '150E , there were no audible images
present, but there was increased noise on the same frequencies".

and

"I found that the original HF-150 was about 0.5 microvolts more
sensitive across the HF spectrum, however, the HF-150E was within
specification of less than two microvolts throughout the HF spectrum,
and was typically in the range of one microvolt. I think that the
higher sensitivity of the original may not be a virtue, given the
radio's susceptibility for overloading. I don't think that this
difference is significant, and switching in the pre-amp on the HF-150E
improved the sensitivity to the level of the '150 without pre-amp"

So basically he had to switch on the pre amp to bring it up to the 150's
sensitivity. If you don't live in areas with strong stations, I'd rather
have the sensitivity.

Plus, I didn't know the backlight option can't be turned off in the E.
So, it will drain your batteries if you ever use it as a portable.

Lucky



I'd be interested in hearing more about the "increased noise" in the
Europa - the reviewer didn't say anything other than he noticed it. Who
knows if it's significant?

I bring plenty of power for recharging battery packs when I'm camping.
I'd gladly trade the convenience of a backlight for a little battery
drain.

Unless you've taken heroic measures or live in the woods, odds are the
noise floor for your antenna will be higher than 2 microvolts.

My primary home antenna is 225 feet away from the house, with underground
coax, and according to my Harris, the noise floor is right around the
limit of the Europa.

If you were using the radio to chase DX in the woods, you could use an
outboard preamp or an active antenna.

When I was looking for a HF-150e or a 7030+ my primary concern was
finding a good radio for use when camping, and for when I'm hanging out
by the pool or fishing for snook on the other side of Alligator Alley.

The HF-150e had the edge on size and would probably have cost less, the
7030+ had the edge on performance, and availability.

Both radios were designed by the same person.



Yes who knows how significant the noise was but if he noticed it, it must
of stood out enough. Still, you can't really be sure it can be reproduced
on all the E models unless you had at least 3 to test it on at the very
same time.

But as they said it was produced mainly for the Euro market where
conditions are different then where we live. With that gothic gold
"Europa" label across the radio it kinda reminds of me of a mini
Dracula's coffin :)

Mark you don't mean Alligator Alley in Florida do you? Nah they got
alligators in alley's in most states nowadays...

Lucky

The "Europa" lettering does look kind of tacky.

Yes on Florida. (Naples)


I'm in North Miami

Unfortunately, I don't get to spend much time in Naples, but the reception is
nice - probably because of the bay and the Gulf of Mexico. You can't dig down
more than a few inches without hitting water.

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...

Lucky wrote:

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message

On the difference between the Europa and the regular HF-150, I'd
take
the
Europa. The input filtering is likely to be more useful than any
loss
in
sensitivity.


He says:
"Incorporating these RF bandpass filters should theoretically reduce
spurious responses and noise. I compared the '150E to my early model
'150. When the original '150 was connected to my 90/60 meter parallel
dipole, there were several frequencies below 3 MHz which had images
of
local broadcasters. With the '150E , there were no audible images
present, but there was increased noise on the same frequencies".

and

"I found that the original HF-150 was about 0.5 microvolts more
sensitive across the HF spectrum, however, the HF-150E was within
specification of less than two microvolts throughout the HF
spectrum,
and was typically in the range of one microvolt. I think that the
higher sensitivity of the original may not be a virtue, given the
radio's susceptibility for overloading. I don't think that this
difference is significant, and switching in the pre-amp on the
HF-150E
improved the sensitivity to the level of the '150 without pre-amp"

So basically he had to switch on the pre amp to bring it up to the
150's
sensitivity. If you don't live in areas with strong stations, I'd
rather
have the sensitivity.

Plus, I didn't know the backlight option can't be turned off in the
E.
So, it will drain your batteries if you ever use it as a portable.

Lucky



I'd be interested in hearing more about the "increased noise" in the
Europa - the reviewer didn't say anything other than he noticed it.
Who
knows if it's significant?

I bring plenty of power for recharging battery packs when I'm camping.
I'd gladly trade the convenience of a backlight for a little battery
drain.

Unless you've taken heroic measures or live in the woods, odds are the
noise floor for your antenna will be higher than 2 microvolts.

My primary home antenna is 225 feet away from the house, with
underground
coax, and according to my Harris, the noise floor is right around the
limit of the Europa.

If you were using the radio to chase DX in the woods, you could use an
outboard preamp or an active antenna.

When I was looking for a HF-150e or a 7030+ my primary concern was
finding a good radio for use when camping, and for when I'm hanging
out
by the pool or fishing for snook on the other side of Alligator Alley.

The HF-150e had the edge on size and would probably have cost less,
the
7030+ had the edge on performance, and availability.

Both radios were designed by the same person.



Yes who knows how significant the noise was but if he noticed it, it
must
of stood out enough. Still, you can't really be sure it can be
reproduced
on all the E models unless you had at least 3 to test it on at the
very
same time.

But as they said it was produced mainly for the Euro market where
conditions are different then where we live. With that gothic gold
"Europa" label across the radio it kinda reminds of me of a mini
Dracula's coffin :)

Mark you don't mean Alligator Alley in Florida do you? Nah they got
alligators in alley's in most states nowadays...

Lucky

The "Europa" lettering does look kind of tacky.

Yes on Florida. (Naples)


I'm in North Miami

Unfortunately, I don't get to spend much time in Naples, but the reception
is
nice - probably because of the bay and the Gulf of Mexico. You can't dig
down
more than a few inches without hitting water.

When I take my Degen 1103 right to the beach, I pick up so much stuff it's
incredible.
Airports galore too. So nice and wide open.

Lucky

I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said that the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
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auction was canceled by seller

Guy Atkins wrote:
I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I
pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said that
the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa
version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
ups.com...
auction was canceled by seller


The last versions of the HQ-150 were black faced and had the backlit
display. They "were not" a Europa. They were built by the company that
bought Lowe out. I owned one of the Europa's when they first arrived,
got it from Universal. Good receiver, much improved over the HQ-150,
especially on mw. Had problems with the mixer, got it fixed and traded
it.

Les

wrote in message
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Guy Atkins wrote:
I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I
pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said that
the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa
version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
ups.com...
auction was canceled by seller


The last versions of the HQ-150 were black faced and had the backlit
display. They "were not" a Europa. They were built by the company that
bought Lowe out. I owned one of the Europa's when they first arrived,
got it from Universal. Good receiver, much improved over the HQ-150,
especially on mw. Had problems with the mixer, got it fixed and traded
it.

Les

Hi

Much improved in the front end?
I got my HF-150 yesterday. So far I'm liking it very much. Now, I can see
what the problem is with overload, but I haven't tried a single long wire
yet. I have a dipole hooked up to a 4:1 current balun. This is connected to
the coax connection and the back is on "Norm"

I'm on the 23rd floor of a building and have a clear line East, North and
South. Signals do come in strong from around the area. I have to use the
plain A, ASU or An setting on some of these AM stations but that clears it
right up nicely. ASF has either overload and/or heteros when I try it. Do
you think I should disconnect the balun and stick with the spring connection
and just a long wire? Have to try that out today and see.

The preamp doesn't kick in unless you have it on Whip setting as far as I
can tell.

This is a very powerfull little radio! I was floored by how small it
actually is. I thought it was somewhat bigger. Great powerful portable
that's for sure. I read in one usenet comment how this radio is really a pro
model not meant for amateurs.

I love the tuning knob. Good feel, nice vibes!
The seller sent me the original manual in very good condition. He must of
kept it bagged all this time. Also came with a 12v Rat Shack PSU. Plus, it
had 8 white cad batteries in it already. They say made in Mexico on them. I
might get some new better ones. Included was the original keypad for the
radio too.

I didn't get to play with it till much later in the night since I had to go
out after I just got it. So I need to spend much more time with it.
It's such a cute little radio too. Built like a damn brick. Fantastic
audio.It's so easy on the ears. You want to listen to it. Like butter
flowing thru the air.

The ECSS is very very good. The selectable sideband is a pleasure to use. It
takes these little companies to make such great products.
They often put so much quality into their products they go out of business
due to less profits.

Like they say, the quality goes in before the name goes on.

Lucky

"Lucky" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Guy Atkins wrote:
I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I
pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said that
the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa
version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
ups.com...
auction was canceled by seller


The last versions of the HQ-150 were black faced and had the backlit
display. They "were not" a Europa. They were built by the company that
bought Lowe out. I owned one of the Europa's when they first arrived,
got it from Universal. Good receiver, much improved over the HQ-150,
especially on mw. Had problems with the mixer, got it fixed and traded
it.

Les

Hi

Much improved in the front end?
I got my HF-150 yesterday. So far I'm liking it very much. Now, I can see
what the problem is with overload, but I haven't tried a single long wire
yet. I have a dipole hooked up to a 4:1 current balun. This is connected
to the coax connection and the back is on "Norm"

I'm on the 23rd floor of a building and have a clear line East, North and
South. Signals do come in strong from around the area. I have to use the
plain A, ASU or An setting on some of these AM stations but that clears it
right up nicely. ASF has either overload and/or heteros when I try it. Do
you think I should disconnect the balun and stick with the spring
connection and just a long wire? Have to try that out today and see.

The preamp doesn't kick in unless you have it on Whip setting as far as I
can tell.

This is a very powerfull little radio! I was floored by how small it
actually is. I thought it was somewhat bigger. Great powerful portable
that's for sure. I read in one usenet comment how this radio is really a
pro model not meant for amateurs.

I love the tuning knob. Good feel, nice vibes!
The seller sent me the original manual in very good condition. He must of
kept it bagged all this time. Also came with a 12v Rat Shack PSU. Plus, it
had 8 white cad batteries in it already. They say made in Mexico on them.
I might get some new better ones. Included was the original keypad for the
radio too.

I didn't get to play with it till much later in the night since I had to
go out after I just got it. So I need to spend much more time with it.
It's such a cute little radio too. Built like a damn brick. Fantastic
audio.It's so easy on the ears. You want to listen to it. Like butter
flowing thru the air.

The ECSS is very very good. The selectable sideband is a pleasure to use.
It takes these little companies to make such great products.
They often put so much quality into their products they go out of business
due to less profits.

Like they say, the quality goes in before the name goes on.

Lucky


The overloading occurs only at strong local frequencies so far. But, I do
get some overloading on a couple of my other radios at these stations like
610 WIOD AM. There are many local stations down here in Miami.

Lucky

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"Lucky" wrote in message
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Guy Atkins wrote:
I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I
pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said that
the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa
version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
ups.com...
auction was canceled by seller


The last versions of the HQ-150 were black faced and had the backlit
display. They "were not" a Europa. They were built by the company that
bought Lowe out. I owned one of the Europa's when they first arrived,
got it from Universal. Good receiver, much improved over the HQ-150,
especially on mw. Had problems with the mixer, got it fixed and traded
it.

Les

Hi

Much improved in the front end?
I got my HF-150 yesterday. So far I'm liking it very much. Now, I can see
what the problem is with overload, but I haven't tried a single long wire
yet. I have a dipole hooked up to a 4:1 current balun. This is connected
to the coax connection and the back is on "Norm"

I'm on the 23rd floor of a building and have a clear line East, North and
South. Signals do come in strong from around the area. I have to use the
plain A, ASU or An setting on some of these AM stations but that clears
it right up nicely. ASF has either overload and/or heteros when I try it.
Do you think I should disconnect the balun and stick with the spring
connection and just a long wire? Have to try that out today and see.

The preamp doesn't kick in unless you have it on Whip setting as far as I
can tell.

This is a very powerfull little radio! I was floored by how small it
actually is. I thought it was somewhat bigger. Great powerful portable
that's for sure. I read in one usenet comment how this radio is really a
pro model not meant for amateurs.

I love the tuning knob. Good feel, nice vibes!
The seller sent me the original manual in very good condition. He must of
kept it bagged all this time. Also came with a 12v Rat Shack PSU. Plus,
it had 8 white cad batteries in it already. They say made in Mexico on
them. I might get some new better ones. Included was the original keypad
for the radio too.

I didn't get to play with it till much later in the night since I had to
go out after I just got it. So I need to spend much more time with it.
It's such a cute little radio too. Built like a damn brick. Fantastic
audio.It's so easy on the ears. You want to listen to it. Like butter
flowing thru the air.

The ECSS is very very good. The selectable sideband is a pleasure to use.
It takes these little companies to make such great products.
They often put so much quality into their products they go out of
business due to less profits.

Like they say, the quality goes in before the name goes on.

Lucky


The overloading occurs only at strong local frequencies so far. But, I do
get some overloading on a couple of my other radios at these stations like
610 WIOD AM. There are many local stations down here in Miami.

Lucky


I can see how this radio can become very addicting. The quality shines thru.
I can just imagine how big this radio was when it first got released years
ago.

Lucky

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"Lucky" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Guy Atkins wrote:
I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I
pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said that
the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa
version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
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auction was canceled by seller


The last versions of the HQ-150 were black faced and had the backlit
display. They "were not" a Europa. They were built by the company that
bought Lowe out. I owned one of the Europa's when they first arrived,
got it from Universal. Good receiver, much improved over the HQ-150,
especially on mw. Had problems with the mixer, got it fixed and traded
it.

Les

Hi

Much improved in the front end?
I got my HF-150 yesterday. So far I'm liking it very much. Now, I can
see what the problem is with overload, but I haven't tried a single long
wire yet. I have a dipole hooked up to a 4:1 current balun. This is
connected to the coax connection and the back is on "Norm"

I'm on the 23rd floor of a building and have a clear line East, North
and South. Signals do come in strong from around the area. I have to use
the plain A, ASU or An setting on some of these AM stations but that
clears it right up nicely. ASF has either overload and/or heteros when I
try it. Do you think I should disconnect the balun and stick with the
spring connection and just a long wire? Have to try that out today and
see.

The preamp doesn't kick in unless you have it on Whip setting as far as
I can tell.

This is a very powerfull little radio! I was floored by how small it
actually is. I thought it was somewhat bigger. Great powerful portable
that's for sure. I read in one usenet comment how this radio is really a
pro model not meant for amateurs.

I love the tuning knob. Good feel, nice vibes!
The seller sent me the original manual in very good condition. He must
of kept it bagged all this time. Also came with a 12v Rat Shack PSU.
Plus, it had 8 white cad batteries in it already. They say made in
Mexico on them. I might get some new better ones. Included was the
original keypad for the radio too.

I didn't get to play with it till much later in the night since I had to
go out after I just got it. So I need to spend much more time with it.
It's such a cute little radio too. Built like a damn brick. Fantastic
audio.It's so easy on the ears. You want to listen to it. Like butter
flowing thru the air.

The ECSS is very very good. The selectable sideband is a pleasure to
use. It takes these little companies to make such great products.
They often put so much quality into their products they go out of
business due to less profits.

Like they say, the quality goes in before the name goes on.

Lucky


The overloading occurs only at strong local frequencies so far. But, I do
get some overloading on a couple of my other radios at these stations
like 610 WIOD AM. There are many local stations down here in Miami.

Lucky


I can see how this radio can become very addicting. The quality shines
thru. I can just imagine how big this radio was when it first got released
years ago.

Lucky


Seems this unit is newer then I thought. The date in the manual is 1991. So
I thought this must be one from 1992 or perhaps the copyright date in the
manual never changes.
Then I found this on the net:

"The only other "mod" for the HF150 is that needed to bring out the AGC
signal
to drive the S meter in the SP (now AP)150. This just involves cutting
one
track on the PCB if the radio has a serial number after *142617 (manf
date **June
94). If the s/n is before this, you also have to add one resistor. This
brings
out the S meter drive signal on what used to be the wire antenna ground
terminal."

My serial number is 143229 so I figure this was made in late 1994/1995.

Lucky

Lucky wrote:

"Lucky" wrote in message
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"Lucky" wrote in message
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"Lucky" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Guy Atkins wrote:
I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I
pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said that
the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa
version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
ups.com...
auction was canceled by seller


The last versions of the HQ-150 were black faced and had the backlit
display. They "were not" a Europa. They were built by the company that
bought Lowe out. I owned one of the Europa's when they first arrived,
got it from Universal. Good receiver, much improved over the HQ-150,
especially on mw. Had problems with the mixer, got it fixed and traded
it.

Les

Hi

Much improved in the front end?
I got my HF-150 yesterday. So far I'm liking it very much. Now, I can
see what the problem is with overload, but I haven't tried a single long
wire yet. I have a dipole hooked up to a 4:1 current balun. This is
connected to the coax connection and the back is on "Norm"

I'm on the 23rd floor of a building and have a clear line East, North
and South. Signals do come in strong from around the area. I have to use
the plain A, ASU or An setting on some of these AM stations but that
clears it right up nicely. ASF has either overload and/or heteros when I
try it. Do you think I should disconnect the balun and stick with the
spring connection and just a long wire? Have to try that out today and
see.

The preamp doesn't kick in unless you have it on Whip setting as far as
I can tell.

This is a very powerfull little radio! I was floored by how small it
actually is. I thought it was somewhat bigger. Great powerful portable
that's for sure. I read in one usenet comment how this radio is really a
pro model not meant for amateurs.

I love the tuning knob. Good feel, nice vibes!
The seller sent me the original manual in very good condition. He must
of kept it bagged all this time. Also came with a 12v Rat Shack PSU.
Plus, it had 8 white cad batteries in it already. They say made in
Mexico on them. I might get some new better ones. Included was the
original keypad for the radio too.

I didn't get to play with it till much later in the night since I had to
go out after I just got it. So I need to spend much more time with it.
It's such a cute little radio too. Built like a damn brick. Fantastic
audio.It's so easy on the ears. You want to listen to it. Like butter
flowing thru the air.

The ECSS is very very good. The selectable sideband is a pleasure to
use. It takes these little companies to make such great products.
They often put so much quality into their products they go out of
business due to less profits.

Like they say, the quality goes in before the name goes on.

Lucky


The overloading occurs only at strong local frequencies so far. But, I do
get some overloading on a couple of my other radios at these stations
like 610 WIOD AM. There are many local stations down here in Miami.

Lucky


I can see how this radio can become very addicting. The quality shines
thru. I can just imagine how big this radio was when it first got released
years ago.

Lucky


Seems this unit is newer then I thought. The date in the manual is 1991. So
I thought this must be one from 1992 or perhaps the copyright date in the
manual never changes.
Then I found this on the net:

"The only other "mod" for the HF150 is that needed to bring out the AGC
signal
to drive the S meter in the SP (now AP)150. This just involves cutting
one
track on the PCB if the radio has a serial number after *142617 (manf
date **June
94). If the s/n is before this, you also have to add one resistor. This
brings
out the S meter drive signal on what used to be the wire antenna ground
terminal."

My serial number is 143229 so I figure this was made in late 1994/1995.

Apparently they were manufactured from 1992-1999. The Europa itself was
introduced in 1998. I'm not sure if the Europa superseded the standard model or
if it was offered in conjunction with it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Glad to hear you like the 150. It is a lot of fun.

I live in NYC and I don't have a lot of trouble with overload. However,
if you do, then you might consider getting a preselector. You wouldn't
have to spring for the expensive Lowe PR-150. MFJ sells one that others
report to work well with the 150.

I'm curious to know more about your antenna situation. Living on the
23rd floor must present some challenges. How large is the dipole you're
using? If you used a random length of wire, would it have to be
indoors? There are some active antennas you might eventually want to
think about, if you're limited in terms of space.

I'm glad you like the audio and the synchronous detection. These, along
with overall build quality, are the primary selling points of this
receiver. And the 8 hz tuning increments in SSB are great, I think.

Even though the receiver is said to work well with rechargeables,
I've decided not to keep batteries in it all the time. I put batteries
in when I need them; otherwise they stay stored outside the receiver.
Call me paranoid!

Steve

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Lucky wrote:

"Lucky" wrote in message
...

"Lucky" wrote in message
...

"Lucky" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

Guy Atkins wrote:
I noticed the seller cancelled the order just a few minutes after
he
answered my inquiry about the rig actually being a Europa model. I
pointed
out the lack of "Europa" tag on the front panel. The seller said
that
the
back panel is marked "HF-150e" and that it was indeed a Europa
version.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA

wrote in message
ups.com...
auction was canceled by seller


The last versions of the HQ-150 were black faced and had the backlit
display. They "were not" a Europa. They were built by the company
that
bought Lowe out. I owned one of the Europa's when they first
arrived,
got it from Universal. Good receiver, much improved over the HQ-150,
especially on mw. Had problems with the mixer, got it fixed and
traded
it.

Les

Hi

Much improved in the front end?
I got my HF-150 yesterday. So far I'm liking it very much. Now, I can
see what the problem is with overload, but I haven't tried a single
long
wire yet. I have a dipole hooked up to a 4:1 current balun. This is
connected to the coax connection and the back is on "Norm"

I'm on the 23rd floor of a building and have a clear line East, North
and South. Signals do come in strong from around the area. I have to
use
the plain A, ASU or An setting on some of these AM stations but that
clears it right up nicely. ASF has either overload and/or heteros
when I
try it. Do you think I should disconnect the balun and stick with the
spring connection and just a long wire? Have to try that out today
and
see.

The preamp doesn't kick in unless you have it on Whip setting as far
as
I can tell.

This is a very powerfull little radio! I was floored by how small it
actually is. I thought it was somewhat bigger. Great powerful
portable
that's for sure. I read in one usenet comment how this radio is
really a
pro model not meant for amateurs.

I love the tuning knob. Good feel, nice vibes!
The seller sent me the original manual in very good condition. He
must
of kept it bagged all this time. Also came with a 12v Rat Shack PSU.
Plus, it had 8 white cad batteries in it already. They say made in
Mexico on them. I might get some new better ones. Included was the
original keypad for the radio too.

I didn't get to play with it till much later in the night since I had
to
go out after I just got it. So I need to spend much more time with
it.
It's such a cute little radio too. Built like a damn brick.
Fantastic
audio.It's so easy on the ears. You want to listen to it. Like butter
flowing thru the air.

The ECSS is very very good. The selectable sideband is a pleasure to
use. It takes these little companies to make such great products.
They often put so much quality into their products they go out of
business due to less profits.

Like they say, the quality goes in before the name goes on.

Lucky


The overloading occurs only at strong local frequencies so far. But, I
do
get some overloading on a couple of my other radios at these stations
like 610 WIOD AM. There are many local stations down here in Miami.

Lucky


I can see how this radio can become very addicting. The quality shines
thru. I can just imagine how big this radio was when it first got
released
years ago.

Lucky


Seems this unit is newer then I thought. The date in the manual is 1991.
So
I thought this must be one from 1992 or perhaps the copyright date in the
manual never changes.
Then I found this on the net:

"The only other "mod" for the HF150 is that needed to bring out the AGC
signal
to drive the S meter in the SP (now AP)150. This just involves
cutting
one
track on the PCB if the radio has a serial number after *142617 (manf
date **June
94). If the s/n is before this, you also have to add one resistor.
This
brings
out the S meter drive signal on what used to be the wire antenna
ground
terminal."

My serial number is 143229 so I figure this was made in late 1994/1995.

Apparently they were manufactured from 1992-1999. The Europa itself was
introduced in 1998. I'm not sure if the Europa superseded the standard
model or
if it was offered in conjunction with it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



You know dxAce I had a hard time deciding between the Drake R8 and the
HF-150. Then, after doing some more research, I decided to go with the 150.

I figured I already have a few radios with all the bells and whistles like
the R-75, NRD-525, R-5000 and Ten Tec 320D. I wouldn't gain that much over
what I already have now in a listening experience. Just another good
receiver with all the bells and whistles. I mean the Drake R8 is a fantastic
rig also, but it wouldn't peek my interest for long.

Plus this little brick has features all my other radios don't have and I can
take it anywhere I go really with great ease.

But yeah, at one point I almost went with the Drake :)

Lucky

wrote in message
ups.com...
Glad to hear you like the 150. It is a lot of fun.

I live in NYC and I don't have a lot of trouble with overload. However,
if you do, then you might consider getting a preselector. You wouldn't
have to spring for the expensive Lowe PR-150. MFJ sells one that others
report to work well with the 150.

I'm curious to know more about your antenna situation. Living on the
23rd floor must present some challenges. How large is the dipole you're
using? If you used a random length of wire, would it have to be
indoors? There are some active antennas you might eventually want to
think about, if you're limited in terms of space.

I'm glad you like the audio and the synchronous detection. These, along
with overall build quality, are the primary selling points of this
receiver. And the 8 hz tuning increments in SSB are great, I think.

Even though the receiver is said to work well with rechargeables,
I've decided not to keep batteries in it all the time. I put batteries
in when I need them; otherwise they stay stored outside the receiver.
Call me paranoid!

Steve


Yes I took the batteries out too. And, when I charge them, I'll use an
external charger. Accidents with batteries can happen plus the unit doesn't
have to be taxed with current running thru it all time.

You know what, it seems I may have overstated the overload problems. It
seems to be from only a couple stations I listen to so far. On the rest of
AM band it's OK. SW is no problem at all.

OK my dipole is made up of 4 wires going to the balun. I have about 20 FT of
Radio Shack twinlead running along the top of the terrace. If I close of the
ends on the Twinlead it becomes sort of a loop ant. Works good. But right
now because I'm using the balun, the ends can't be closed. So right now they
are open.

Then, I have a small dipole like 10 FT long on each side. All 4 wires go the
balun. I get a signals from the long wires and the dipole backs it up. Sort
of best of both words. I use only one wire from this setup when using the
FRG-7.

I have two active ants but hardly ever use them. I have a Ameco TPA which
works very well even thought it's old and a MFJ-959B.

BTW, I grew up in Queens N.Y. and lived there for a while.

Lucky

wrote in message
ups.com...
Glad to hear you like the 150. It is a lot of fun.

I live in NYC and I don't have a lot of trouble with overload. However,
if you do, then you might consider getting a preselector. You wouldn't
have to spring for the expensive Lowe PR-150. MFJ sells one that others
report to work well with the 150.

I'm curious to know more about your antenna situation. Living on the
23rd floor must present some challenges. How large is the dipole you're
using? If you used a random length of wire, would it have to be
indoors? There are some active antennas you might eventually want to
think about, if you're limited in terms of space.

I'm glad you like the audio and the synchronous detection. These, along
with overall build quality, are the primary selling points of this
receiver. And the 8 hz tuning increments in SSB are great, I think.

Even though the receiver is said to work well with rechargeables,
I've decided not to keep batteries in it all the time. I put batteries
in when I need them; otherwise they stay stored outside the receiver.
Call me paranoid!

Steve


There is one thing I'm noticing. On some stations the audio is coming in
nice and clear, but I'm getting "pops" or "clicks". "Tic" noises. Is this
receiver that sensitive or is it the weak front end???

I'm going to experiment but I think this radio was made to used with a short
wire. I think my antenna system may be too much for it????

Lucky

Well, just have fun experimenting with various antennas until you find
something that works well. If you aren't able to cook up something
you're satisfied with, then I encourage you to consider one of two
active antennas that you could located outside, on your terrace.

First, you might consider one of the Wellbrook loops. I have the 330S
and it works great with both my Lowe HF-150 and my Drake. Because it's
a relatively low gain antenna, I think it's a wise choise for receivers
with weak front ends.

Second, a less expensive route would be LF Engineering's H-800 Skymatch
antenna. The Skymatch is no competition for the Wellbrook overall, but
it's a very good antenna, especially below 5 mhz. I *suspect* the
Skymatch would outperform any wire antenna that's small enough to fit
on your terrace. (www.lfengineering.com). I also suspect that this
antenna is a cut above the Ameco and MFJ actives you've used
previously, but others might be better situated to comment on this.

Steve

Does this happen primarily in AM mode? If so, it could be interference
from another signal on a nearby frequency. If that's the case, tuning
slightly above or below the frequency should help. Shifting over to Su
or Sl might also solve the problem.

Steve

wrote in message
ups.com...
Does this happen primarily in AM mode? If so, it could be interference
from another signal on a nearby frequency. If that's the case, tuning
slightly above or below the frequency should help. Shifting over to Su
or Sl might also solve the problem.

Steve


Yes mostly in AM. I tried that but I could still hear the popping. It was
almost gone in An mode though. I have to find the right setup like you said.

What I find strange is let's say I get a lock on a station in ASu or ASL
and say the little finger hole on the tuning dial is at 1:00 o'clock.
I lose the lock and then moving the dial a little in either direction
doesn't relock it. Say to 10:00 or 3:00

I have to turn the dial a full rotation or more to get a new lock. Is this
normal??

Lucky wrote:
snip

I have two active ants but hardly ever use them. I have a Ameco TPA which
works very well even thought it's old and a MFJ-959B.
snip

I had a TPA for a short while and used it with an R8 for a camping trip.

Oddly enough, I found the performance was about the same if the power was turned
off.

The best product of it's type that I ever found was an Arcom = I forget the
model number, but it had a pretty good preselector and it performed well with my
7030+. It came in a sturdy metal case, and could be hooked up to several
antennas besides the internal whip. The only one I ever saw was the one I
bought and eventually sold.

The Skymatch Steve mentioned was another antenna I tried for camping. It
performed well, but I had the version with the "permanently attached" coax. If
you decide to buy one, I recommend the one with a jack on the bottom so you can
easily replace the coax when you want or need to. It's not an expensive
option.

"Mark S. Holden" wrote in message
...
Lucky wrote:
snip

I have two active ants but hardly ever use them. I have a Ameco TPA which
works very well even thought it's old and a MFJ-959B.
snip

I had a TPA for a short while and used it with an R8 for a camping trip.

Oddly enough, I found the performance was about the same if the power was
turned
off.

The best product of it's type that I ever found was an Arcom = I forget
the
model number, but it had a pretty good preselector and it performed well
with my
7030+. It came in a sturdy metal case, and could be hooked up to several
antennas besides the internal whip. The only one I ever saw was the one I
bought and eventually sold.

The Skymatch Steve mentioned was another antenna I tried for camping. It
performed well, but I had the version with the "permanently attached"
coax. If
you decide to buy one, I recommend the one with a jack on the bottom so
you can
easily replace the coax when you want or need to. It's not an expensive
option.

Thanks Mark I'll look at both of them.
I found the TPA to work well on some bands but not on others.

Has anyone ever heard of a preselector called the Mizuho SX-3??

Lucky

Lucky wrote:

snip
I found the TPA to work well on some bands but not on others.

Has anyone ever heard of a preselector called the Mizuho SX-3??

Lucky


It's a while since I've paid attention to preselectors, but the Mizuho SX-3 used
to close for more than most preselectors that weren't built for the military or
government agencies on ebay.

They look well made - but I never saw one in person, or used one.

Not sure, but the Arcom I had may have been a PAT-4.

In article ,
Lucky wrote:

My serial number is 143229 so I figure this was made in late 1994/1995.

Look at any integrated circuits for a date code. ICs, at least in the
DIP package, usually have a YYWW (year, week) number as part of their
label.

Mark Zenier Washington State resident

"Lucky" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Does this happen primarily in AM mode? If so, it could be interference
from another signal on a nearby frequency. If that's the case, tuning
slightly above or below the frequency should help. Shifting over to Su
or Sl might also solve the problem.

Steve


Yes mostly in AM. I tried that but I could still hear the popping. It was
almost gone in An mode though. I have to find the right setup like you
said.

What I find strange is let's say I get a lock on a station in ASu or ASL
and say the little finger hole on the tuning dial is at 1:00 o'clock.
I lose the lock and then moving the dial a little in either direction
doesn't relock it. Say to 10:00 or 3:00

I have to turn the dial a full rotation or more to get a new lock. Is this
normal??





I found out what was going on here.
There are quite a few variables that happen when tuning the radio.

1] Tuning rate changes with speed of dial rotation

2] Tuning rate changes yet again for some other modes

3] Lock can get lost or shift when changing even in other AS modes.

So at first it looked to me like something was wrong. After using it for a
while you see the pattern. All in all I think it's a nifty little radio.
A real novelty item for sure too.

BTW

I remember I asked how much an original Lowe keypad for this radio went for.
Well take a look. Almost $71. I really feel I got a good deal on mine for
$500 since it included the keypad, USA power supply and batteries/orig
manual. The last 150 sold for $465 with no US power supply and no keypad.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

Lucky

I remember I asked how much an original Lowe keypad for this radio
went for.
Well take a look. Almost $71. I really feel I got a good deal on mine
for
$500 since it included the keypad, USA power supply and
batteries/orig
manual. The last 150 sold for $465 with no US power supply and no
keypad.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

Lucky

The person who spent $71 on the keypad got a lousy deal if you ask
me--unless of course the point was simply to have have it as a
'collectable'. For $79.95 he could have purchased a remote control for
the 150 that has way more functionality than the original keypad:

http://www.swl-remotes.com/pages/22/index.htm

I bought one of these things for my Drake a while back and have been
loving it. I'm one of the few people around I guess who doesn't like
having their receiver hooked directly to a computer. At the same time,
I don't like having to sit right in front of my receiver all the time
in order to tune around. The remote is very liberating.

Steve

Does anyone have an HF150 Euro for sale?

I'd like to buy the unique version, not the common one.