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"dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace has no need for high power, assualt weapons. Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my assualt rifle. Take care. I feel sorry for your victims. Victims? Sounds to me like he's a law abiding citizen. What's your excuse, 'tard boy? I love ****ing off people like you. dxAce Michigan USA To bad your not smart enough to pull it off. Later you liberal Nazi. But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are easy. You can't read, 'tard boy. I did not label you a NAZI. Apparently English is a second language for you. Take those meds and you might just get something right today. dxAce Michigan USA |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message ... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace has no need for high power, assualt weapons. Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my assualt rifle. Take care. I feel sorry for your victims. Victims? Sounds to me like he's a law abiding citizen. What's your excuse, 'tard boy? I love ****ing off people like you. dxAce Michigan USA To bad your not smart enough to pull it off. Later you liberal Nazi. But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are easy. B.H. I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya! How does Hitler tie his shoes? I don't know. Tell me. B.H. |
"FDR" wrote in message I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya! How does Hitler tie his shoes? I don't know. Tell me. In little knotzies. LOL Ha!!! Ha!!! :))))))))))))))))))))))) B.H. |
Cuhulin wrote:
The only reason CanaDUH has less crime and murders than U.S.A.is because the population of CANADUH is much,much,much less than the population of U.S.A. Actually the *per capita* crime rate in Canada is generally less than that of the US, with violent crimes being much less (about 1/3 or so of the US), and property crimes being a bit *higher*, especially in the western provinces. The following gives a first blush accounting: http://www.statcan.ca/english/previe...85-002-XIE.pdf There are doubtless many more detailed discussions out there. Bruce Jensen |
BULL****!
cuhulin |
BULL****!
cuhulin Why do you say this? Do you have other stats that show otherwise? Bruce Jensen |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace has no need for high power, assualt weapons. Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my assualt rifle. Take care. I feel sorry for your victims. Victims? Sounds to me like he's a law abiding citizen. What's your excuse, 'tard boy? I love ****ing off people like you. dxAce Michigan USA To bad your not smart enough to pull it off. Later you liberal Nazi. B.H. Hate to pick nits, Brian, but liberal and nazi are diametrically opposed. Nazis are ultra-conservative. Actually, I can't figure out why the far end of liberalism is considered to be communism. From the standpoint of freedom, it's virtually impossible to tell a real difference between fascism on the right and communism on the left.. they've met in the middle 'round the back.. |
Hate to pick nits, Brian, but liberal and nazi are diametrically
opposed. Nazis are ultra-conservative. Actually, I can't figure out why the far end of liberalism is considered to be communism. From the standpoint of freedom, it's virtually impossible to tell a real difference between fascism on the right and communism on the left.. they've met in the middle 'round the back.. The problem, I think, Brenda, is that fascism can be practiced by *anybody* as long as one allows intolerance and tunnel vision to rule one's attitudes and actions. Nobody is immune, not liberals or conservatives, not Christians or Muslims, not nazis or Communists. On this list, we unfortunately have a number of people who, if given enough power, might fit the description, if one assumes their posts to be true reflections of their character. I tend toward the opinion that it is largely bluster, that most on here are just trying to get a rise out of others - sort of being a bully with no repercussions. Brian was just acting the part of the insulting bully with his comments, just because he can - so common on these newsgroups. I don't blame him - the temptation to mistreat people with whom you disagree can be powerful; I know it is for me. Bruce Jensen |
"bpnjensen" wrote in message oups.com... Hate to pick nits, Brian, but liberal and nazi are diametrically opposed. Nazis are ultra-conservative. Actually, I can't figure out why the far end of liberalism is considered to be communism. From the standpoint of freedom, it's virtually impossible to tell a real difference between fascism on the right and communism on the left.. they've met in the middle 'round the back.. The problem, I think, Brenda, is that fascism can be practiced by *anybody* as long as one allows intolerance and tunnel vision to rule one's attitudes and actions. Nobody is immune, not liberals or conservatives, not Christians or Muslims, not nazis or Communists. On this list, we unfortunately have a number of people who, if given enough power, might fit the description, if one assumes their posts to be true reflections of their character. I tend toward the opinion that it is largely bluster, that most on here are just trying to get a rise out of others - sort of being a bully with no repercussions. Brian was just acting the part of the insulting bully with his comments, just because he can - so common on these newsgroups. I don't blame him - the temptation to mistreat people with whom you disagree can be powerful; I know it is for me. Bruce Jensen It's all in jest. I just don't agree with extreme views on either side that affect my rights and have little or no effect on the problems they try to correct. B.H. |
I just don't agree with extreme views on either side that
affect my rights and have little or no effect on the problems they try to correct. B.H. ...of course, and how could it be different? Myself, I am willing to accept some amounts of extremism, temporarily, *if* it looks like a problem could be solved with it - otherwise, it is usually far better to build a consensus and, as far as possible, ignore the outliers. BJ |
FDR wrote:
Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist? Well, tell me a few of those ways stores, So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source. I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if all guns disappeared, there'd be no killing. -- In Memoriam: Julius the cat April 1, 1993 - February 3, 2005 Never forgotten: Chane, Tigger, Koshka, Serenity, Rocky |
FDR wrote:
But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are easy. The Nazis *did* outlaw private possession of guns in Germany, as you want to do in the USA. -- In Memoriam: Julius the cat April 1, 1993 - February 3, 2005 Never forgotten: Chane, Tigger, Koshka, Serenity, Rocky |
"bpnjensen" wrote in message ups.com... I just don't agree with extreme views on either side that affect my rights and have little or no effect on the problems they try to correct. B.H. ..of course, and how could it be different? Myself, I am willing to accept some amounts of extremism, temporarily, *if* it looks like a problem could be solved with it - otherwise, it is usually far better to build a consensus and, as far as possible, ignore the outliers. BJ I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the door to further erosion of our rights. B.H. |
"clifto" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are easy. The Nazis *did* outlaw private possession of guns in Germany, as you want to do in the USA. Maybe you should go back and reread what I said before you attribute things to me. -- In Memoriam: Julius the cat April 1, 1993 - February 3, 2005 Never forgotten: Chane, Tigger, Koshka, Serenity, Rocky |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message ... On Tue 15 Feb 2005 11:40:34p, "FDR" wrote in message : "-=jd=-" wrote in message ... On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:52:06a, "FDR" wrote in message : So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source. If car dealerships didn't sell death-mobiles, tens of thousands of people wouldn't die every year. What's your point? Cars get people and products to places. Guns make nice holes in targets and people. I can see how you can confuse the two snce they are so similar. How am I confusing two products that have similar potentials: Because you certainly don't understand their applications. |
"clifto" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist? Well, tell me a few of those ways stores, So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source. I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if all guns disappeared, there'd be no killing. There wou;dn't have been a Columbine. -- In Memoriam: Julius the cat April 1, 1993 - February 3, 2005 Never forgotten: Chane, Tigger, Koshka, Serenity, Rocky |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya! How does Hitler tie his shoes? I don't know. Tell me. In little knotzies. LOL Ha!!! Ha!!! :))))))))))))))))))))))) Where do General's keep their Armies? B.H. |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message . .. On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:50:06p, "FDR" wrote in message : "clifto" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist? Well, tell me a few of those ways stores, So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source. I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if all guns disappeared, there'd be no killing. There wou;dn't have been a Columbine. Well, let's see... What could have also been used to the same effect in a situation like Columbine? most any combination of: shotgun BS. bolt-action rifle BS semi-auto .22 BS black-powder revolver BS cross-bow sword etc., etc., etc. BS, BS and more BS How often do you see police use a sword or crossbow? Defective humans who are not thinking rationally can accomplish a great many evil things without the benefit of a scary "Assault Rifle". And yet they are highly prized. Who needs high capacity magazines when there's two of you. One to keep their heads down while the other reloads... The difference between our view-points is that I correctly identify the root-cause of the problem as defective people who wouldn't be bothered by the inability to obtain one particular type of weapon when there are so many to choose from. It would appear that you identify the root-cause as an inanimate object. -=jd=- -- My Current Disposable Email: (Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly) |
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"bpnjensen" wrote: BULL****! cuhulin Why do you say this? Do you have other stats that show otherwise? Bruce Jensen Why do you and others keep responding to these off topic Trolls? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
"FDR" wrote in message ... "-=jd=-" wrote in message . .. On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:50:06p, "FDR" wrote in message : "clifto" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist? Well, tell me a few of those ways stores, So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source. I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if all guns disappeared, there'd be no killing. There wou;dn't have been a Columbine. Well, let's see... What could have also been used to the same effect in a situation like Columbine? most any combination of: shotgun BS. bolt-action rifle BS semi-auto .22 BS black-powder revolver BS cross-bow sword etc., etc., etc. BS, BS and more BS Gotta agree with jd on this one. 1) Like the old NRA bumper sticker quite correctly says: "If you outlaw guns (and this can be applied to many things), then only outlaws will have guns". 2) People have been killing one another very effectively for milennia without the need of a firearm of any sort. In fact, the lunatic weapon of choice would seem to be a knife/machete/sword or that ilk. 3) There were no "assault rifles" used at the Columbine shootings. The closest to an assault weapon would have been the 9mm semi-auto handgun used by Dylan. " What they carried: Dylan -- Intratec TEC-DC-9 (9-mm semi-automatic handgun) attached to a strap slung over his shoulder (under coat), Stevens 12-gauge double-barrel shotgun (barrel sawed down to approximately 23 inches, initially half-hidden in Dylan's cargos). Eric -- 10-shot Hi-Point model 995 carbine rifle on a strap (under coat), Savage-Springfield 12-gauge pump shotgun he called 'Arlene' (named after a Doom character - initially in one of the duffels carried to the top of the grassy knoll -- stock and barrel sawed off, reducing the entire gun to 26 inches). The sawed-off weapons were so short that firing repeatedly from them caused their hands to bleed on the practice range initially. They apparently acclimitized to the weapons over the months preceding the shootings. Both gunmen also carried several knives, but they did not use them on April 20. The shooters named their pipe bombs. Four bombs are mentioned on Eric's website, along with their specs. 'Vengeance' (pictured at bottom) and 'Atlanta' were found at the Klebold residence when police searched it." |
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"FDR" wrote in message ... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya! How does Hitler tie his shoes? I don't know. Tell me. In little knotzies. LOL Ha!!! Ha!!! :))))))))))))))))))))))) Where do General's keep their Armies? B.H. ?? B.H. |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message ... On Wed 16 Feb 2005 09:00:04p, "FDR" wrote in message : "-=jd=-" wrote in message . .. On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:50:06p, "FDR" wrote in message : There wou;dn't have been a Columbine. Well, let's see... What could have also been used to the same effect in a situation like Columbine? most any combination of: shotgun BS. Au-Contraire! Entirely plausible! Why not? (Other than you can't think of any other way to refute it?) bolt-action rifle BS Au-Contraire! Entirely plausible! Why not? (Other than you can't think of any other way to refute it?) semi-auto .22 BS Au-Contraire! Entirely plausible! Why not? (Other than you can't think of any other way to refute it?) black-powder revolver BS Au-Contraire! Entirely plausible! Why not? (Other than you can't think of any other way to refute it?) cross-bow sword etc., etc., etc. BS, BS and more BS Au-Contraire! Entirely plausible! Why not? (Other than you can't think of any other way to refute it?) How often do you see police use a sword or crossbow? Hmmmm... You asserted that if assault rifles weren't avilable, a "Columbine" would not have happened. I'm asserting that assault rifles are not at all necessary to carry out a tragedy similar to a "Columbine". To refute that, you are now somehow equating *police* to the mental deficients that committed the Columbine tragedy? Sheesh... The first thing you do when you find yourself in a hole is to quit digging. I think you and your assertions just started digging faster and have called for the assistance of some heavy equipment!! Defective humans who are not thinking rationally can accomplish a great many evil things without the benefit of a scary "Assault Rifle". And yet they are highly prized. Which is "highly prized"? The defective person or the scary assault rifle? (Not that it makes one whit of difference either way...) Still, perhaps it's a sign that you have come to your senses and realize that deficient humans who are not thinking rationally can accomplish a great many evil things without the benefit of a scary "Assault Rifle". Who needs high capacity magazines when there's two of you. One to keep their heads down while the other reloads... The difference between our view-points is that I correctly identify the root-cause of the problem as defective people who wouldn't be bothered by the inability to obtain one particular type of weapon when there are so many to choose from. It would appear that you identify the root-cause as an inanimate object. At least we agree on that! -=jd=- -- My Current Disposable Email: (Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly) Let him go jd. He's in fantasy land . B.H. |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message It keeps us off the streets, out of pool halls and prevents associating with unsavory characters. Well, two out of three ain't bad... -=jd=- -- My Current Disposable Email: (Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly) Want a buy a lid jd? :) lol B.H. |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message ... On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:51:07p, "FDR" wrote in message : "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya! How does Hitler tie his shoes? I don't know. Tell me. In little knotzies. LOL Ha!!! Ha!!! :))))))))))))))))))))))) Where do General's keep their Armies? In their sleeve-ies? Ding. You get a prize! -=jd=- -- My Current Disposable Email: (Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly) |
FDR wrote: "-=jd=-" wrote in message ... On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:51:07p, "FDR" wrote in message : "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in message I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya! How does Hitler tie his shoes? I don't know. Tell me. In little knotzies. LOL Ha!!! Ha!!! :))))))))))))))))))))))) Where do General's keep their Armies? In their sleeve-ies? Ding. You get a prize! Ding. So do you! You've beat out David as 'Tard of The Day. Now go take your meds, 'tard. dxAce Michigan USA |
B.H. wrote:
I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the door to further erosion of our rights. Fair enough, and I agree. You must have some real concerns with the Patriot Act and our current leadership, then, because I sure do, vis-a-vis the Bill of Rights. The potential exists to make life quite a bit more obnoxious under that Act. Bruce Jensen |
"FDR" wrote in message ... "-=jd=-" wrote in message . .. On Wed 16 Feb 2005 07:50:06p, "FDR" wrote in message : "clifto" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist? Well, tell me a few of those ways stores, So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source. I see, you're one of those wild-eyed fantasy boys who believes that if all guns disappeared, there'd be no killing. There wou;dn't have been a Columbine. Well, let's see... What could have also been used to the same effect in a situation like Columbine? most any combination of: shotgun BS. bolt-action rifle BS semi-auto .22 BS black-powder revolver BS cross-bow sword etc., etc., etc. BS, BS and more BS How often do you see police use a sword or crossbow? Defective humans who are not thinking rationally can accomplish a great many evil things without the benefit of a scary "Assault Rifle". And yet they are highly prized. You really have no idea what you're talking about. The so-called "assault rifle" is just a plain old semi-auto that looks scary to liberals. They work EXACTLY the same. A true assault rifle, fully automatic, has been extremely regulated since 1934. I have a .22 rifle that is semi-auto and tube fed, it holds 18 rounds. Is this also an "assault rifle" The rifles you speak of as being "highly prized" are also highly expensive and have been found to be used in less that 1% of all firearms crimes. There basically a non-issue, well, to rational thinking people that is. |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "bpnjensen" wrote in message ups.com... B.H. wrote: I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the door to further erosion of our rights. Fair enough, and I agree. You must have some real concerns with the Patriot Act and our current leadership, then, because I sure do, vis-a-vis the Bill of Rights. The potential exists to make life quite a bit more obnoxious under that Act. Yeah, but it's conservative opression, so it's ok. Right? Damn right! It sure beats left-wing 'tard boy oppression any old day. Ok. Now I understand. You don't like the Constitution. LMAO... the 'tard just made another stupid statement. You don't understand jack, 'tard boy. Yeah, but I do understand that you don't like the Constitution. Are you a communist? dxAce Michigan USA |
FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "bpnjensen" wrote in message ups.com... B.H. wrote: I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the door to further erosion of our rights. Fair enough, and I agree. You must have some real concerns with the Patriot Act and our current leadership, then, because I sure do, vis-a-vis the Bill of Rights. The potential exists to make life quite a bit more obnoxious under that Act. Yeah, but it's conservative opression, so it's ok. Right? Damn right! It sure beats left-wing 'tard boy oppression any old day. Ok. Now I understand. You don't like the Constitution. LMAO... the 'tard just made another stupid statement. You don't understand jack, 'tard boy. Yeah, but I do understand that you don't like the Constitution. Are you a communist? You're just a hopeless 'tard boy. Now go play with your ant farm. dxAce Michigan USA |
"FDR" wrote in Yeah, but I do understand that you don't like the Constitution. Are you a communist? dxAce Michigan USA You don't like the Bill of Rights. Are you a communist? B.H. |
"MnMikew" wrote in message ... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "-=jd=-" wrote in message It keeps us off the streets, out of pool halls and prevents associating with unsavory characters. Well, two out of three ain't bad... -=jd=- -- My Current Disposable Email: (Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly) Want a buy a lid jd? :) lol B.H. Lid? You just dated yourself. lol. :-) I'll take it if JD dosent want it. ;-) Dag nabit!! I should have kept my trap shut. By the way that'll be $20. B.H. |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "FDR" wrote in Yeah, but I do understand that you don't like the Constitution. Are you a communist? dxAce Michigan USA You don't like the Bill of Rights. Are you a communist? Mr. dx says he likes opression. Just setting things straight. B.H. |
FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "bpnjensen" wrote in message ups.com... B.H. wrote: I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the door to further erosion of our rights. Fair enough, and I agree. You must have some real concerns with the Patriot Act and our current leadership, then, because I sure do, vis-a-vis the Bill of Rights. The potential exists to make life quite a bit more obnoxious under that Act. Yeah, but it's conservative opression, so it's ok. Right? Damn right! It sure beats left-wing 'tard boy oppression any old day. Ok. Now I understand. You don't like the Constitution. LMAO... the 'tard just made another stupid statement. You don't understand jack, 'tard boy. Yeah, but I do understand that you don't like the Constitution. Are you a communist? You're just a hopeless 'tard boy. Now go play with your ant farm. A gun toting communist. Shouldn't you be arrested and sent to Guantanamo with all those other freedom-hating thugs? I've already been to Guantanamo, 'tard boy... next time I go, I'm going to drag you by your little faggot ears down there with me. Get the picture, piece of ****? dxAce Michigan USA |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... FDR wrote: "bpnjensen" wrote in message ups.com... B.H. wrote: I understand but I'm not willing to budge on any aspect of my freedom as it's laid out in the Bill of Right or in our Constitution. I don't believe in security over freedom because it doesn't work and it ultimately opens the door to further erosion of our rights. Fair enough, and I agree. You must have some real concerns with the Patriot Act and our current leadership, then, because I sure do, vis-a-vis the Bill of Rights. The potential exists to make life quite a bit more obnoxious under that Act. Yeah, but it's conservative opression, so it's ok. Right? Damn right! It sure beats left-wing 'tard boy oppression any old day. Ok. Now I understand. You don't like the Constitution. LMAO... the 'tard just made another stupid statement. You don't understand jack, 'tard boy. Yeah, but I do understand that you don't like the Constitution. Are you a communist? You're just a hopeless 'tard boy. Now go play with your ant farm. A gun toting communist. Shouldn't you be arrested and sent to Guantanamo with all those other freedom-hating thugs? I've already been to Guantanamo, 'tard boy... next time I go, I'm going to drag you by your little faggot ears down there with me. Get the picture, piece of ****? I sure do, Mr. Stalin. dxAce Michigan USA |
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