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luckydaze February 13th 05 10:16 PM

Possible Terrorist Attack In NY Mall
 
3 gun men open fire with automatic weapons in a NY mall shooting serveral
people.

They were wearing all black and had machine guns.
What does that tell you?

They shot people randomly also.

Watch then try and cover it up..

Lucky



Joe Guthart February 13th 05 10:20 PM

All of the news media are all afraid to ask the question: "Did the shooters
look like crazy ass middle-eastern Islamic terrorists?"


"luckydaze" wrote in message
...
3 gun men open fire with automatic weapons in a NY mall shooting serveral
people.

They were wearing all black and had machine guns.
What does that tell you?

They shot people randomly also.

Watch then try and cover it up..

Lucky




[email protected] February 13th 05 11:34 PM

I believe in gun control, but in fairness, these attacks are almost
always using semi-automatic weapons.


Honus February 14th 05 12:09 AM


"luckydaze" wrote in message
...

They just gave a news briefing and they said they was NO gang related
activity reported here as was reported earlier. I never said is was a
terrorist attack anyway. I said possible. Again, NO report of gang

activity
from investigators.


You also said "Watch them try and cover it up". Just what was -that-
supposed to mean?




[email protected] February 14th 05 12:17 AM

It means,,,,,, You can't comprehend,,,, You can't figure it out,,,,,,
You can't read between the lines,,,,,,,,,,
.................................................. .............
.................................................. .............
See those lines there? Look up.^
cuhulin


luckydaze February 14th 05 12:27 AM


"Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:16:45 -0500, luckydaze expelled the following:

3 gun men open fire with automatic weapons in a NY mall shooting serveral
people.

They were wearing all black and had machine guns. What does that tell
you?

They shot people randomly also.

Watch then try and cover it up..

Lucky



It was ONE guy, they got him and it was a random thing. 2 people hurt, one
in the leg, one in the hand. Get your facts straight before spouting off.




http://news10now.com/content/top_sto...asp?ArID=36849



[email protected] February 14th 05 12:54 AM

I am busy watching streaming video (it's called tb,tb,Dennis the
Menance) Jurassic Park movie on tb right now.I will click on the talking
heads on Fox news later on.
cuhulin


FDR February 14th 05 01:00 AM


"luckydaze" wrote in message
...
3 gun men open fire with automatic weapons in a NY mall shooting serveral
people.

They were wearing all black and had machine guns.
What does that tell you?

They shot people randomly also.

Watch then try and cover it up..


Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




Brian Hill February 14th 05 02:11 AM


"FDR" wrote in message

Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




That was a stupid thing to say. What differance would that make? With your
way of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they were used to take
out the Twin Towers.

B.H.



Ken Bessler February 14th 05 02:23 AM

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message

Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




That was a stupid thing to say. What differance would that make? With your
way of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they were used to take
out the Twin Towers.

B.H.



No! No! Let's outlaw breathing - the terrorists breathed during 9/11.
--
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Grid EM17ip, Flying Pigs #1055,
List Owner, Yahoo! E-groups:
VX-2R & FT-857



Brenda Ann February 14th 05 02:30 AM


"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message

Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




That was a stupid thing to say. What differance would that make? With your
way of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they were used to take
out the Twin Towers.

B.H.



This whole thread only proves the point that people are paranoid of
terrorism. There have been whack cases in the US for decades popping off
people at random. It's not terrorism, it's crazy *******s taking our
societal lack or respect for others and for human life in general to it's
most absurd conclusion. In a time when kids kill kids for their shoes, or
just for the fun of it, it seems to me that we have a lot more to be
concerned about.




[email protected] February 14th 05 02:53 AM


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CW February 14th 05 03:41 AM


"Honus" wrote in message
news:o%RPd.6232$uc.2686@trnddc01...

"luckydaze" wrote in message
...

They just gave a news briefing and they said they was NO gang related
activity reported here as was reported earlier. I never said is was a
terrorist attack anyway. I said possible. Again, NO report of gang

activity
from investigators.


You also said "Watch them try and cover it up". Just what was -that-
supposed to mean?




It means that he is an ignorant little kid trying to start something.



CW February 14th 05 03:42 AM

So do I, you should hit what you're aiming at.

wrote in message
oups.com...
I believe in gun control,




:-: Ghost Chip :-: February 14th 05 04:03 AM

Yea, during the time this thread chattered, drunk drivers
killed dozens. Where are our priorities?
GC



luckydaze February 14th 05 04:07 AM


"CW" wrote in message
...
So do I, you should hit what you're aiming at.

wrote in message
oups.com...
I believe in gun control,




Not if you get shot first which will most likely be the case.

Lucky



luckydaze February 14th 05 04:20 AM


"CW" wrote in message
...

"Honus" wrote in message
news:o%RPd.6232$uc.2686@trnddc01...

"luckydaze" wrote in message
...

They just gave a news briefing and they said they was NO gang related
activity reported here as was reported earlier. I never said is was a
terrorist attack anyway. I said possible. Again, NO report of gang

activity
from investigators.


You also said "Watch them try and cover it up". Just what was -that-
supposed to mean?




It means that he is an ignorant little kid trying to start something.



You're right. I may have startled some people into getting up who have never
gotten off a chair in years. I see it worked on you....

Lucky



Brian Hill February 14th 05 10:11 AM


"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message

Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law

ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




That was a stupid thing to say. What differance would that make? With

your
way of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they were used to

take
out the Twin Towers.

B.H.



This whole thread only proves the point that people are paranoid of
terrorism. There have been whack cases in the US for decades popping off
people at random. It's not terrorism, it's crazy *******s taking our
societal lack or respect for others and for human life in general to it's
most absurd conclusion. In a time when kids kill kids for their shoes, or
just for the fun of it, it seems to me that we have a lot more to be
concerned about.




Stirring around in the mix of mankind has always been a dangerous
proposition from the beginning of time. It's just that now days we are so
damn rude and have a total lack of manners about everything we do. This
modern media with it's constant emphasis on the negative and split second
news coverage only makes the world smaller and more cramped. Anything
negative sells on TV. Hum? Why is that? There's just too damn many people
and we are all getting tired of each other. I think we finally perfected our
art of being a bunch of real selfish pricks. Poor f--kin me!

B.H.



Brian Hill February 14th 05 12:24 PM


"Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:34:39 -0800, miso expelled the following:

I believe in gun control, but in fairness, these attacks are almost

always
using semi-automatic weapons.



Gun control is a rediculous concept. It does not apply to criminals.
Matter of fact, NO LAW applies to criminals.

Kudos to the 2 employees that tackled the ass, they should have shot him
dead....



People that have had little or no contact with guns usually rely on the TV
info they see to base their opinions. Us that have grown up with guns
realize that guns have little to do with crime and that humans are the
ultimate weapon and guns are only a tool. They have a hard time
understanding why any one would need or want automatic firearms. I like all
types of guns and collect them primarily because there neat and I collect a
lot of other things to I find interesting including old radios, guitars,
antiques and small handmade brass trains. I'm the type of person that loves
mechanics and guns represent some of mans greatest achievements in
mechanical design. Yes it's sad that some were designed to kill humans but
war is a catalyst that pushes the envelope in technology and these thing are
product of that. Is my collecting guns making the world a worse place? I
don't think so and NO guns don't turn you into a killer.

B.H.



FDR February 14th 05 05:13 PM


"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message

Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




That was a stupid thing to say. What differance would that make? With your
way of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they were used to take
out the Twin Towers.


You mean those terrorists bought those planes?



B.H.





FDR February 14th 05 06:30 PM


"clifto" wrote in message
...
FDR wrote:
"luckydaze" wrote...
3 gun men open fire with automatic weapons in a NY mall shooting serveral
people.


Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.


Show us the gun permits held by the shooters.

When it becomes obvious that you can't, because they didn't have permits,
then everyone with any intelligence will realize that the assault weapon
ban wouldn't have stopped these guys.


Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist?


--

In Memoriam: Julius the cat April 1, 1993 - February 3, 2005
Never forgotten: Chane, Tigger, Koshka, Serenity, Rocky




MnMikew February 14th 05 06:34 PM


"luckydaze" wrote in message
...

"Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:16:45 -0500, luckydaze expelled the following:

3 gun men open fire with automatic weapons in a NY mall shooting

serveral
people.

They were wearing all black and had machine guns. What does that tell
you?

They shot people randomly also.

Watch then try and cover it up..

Lucky



It was ONE guy, they got him and it was a random thing. 2 people hurt,

one
in the leg, one in the hand. Get your facts straight before spouting

off.




I just posted what I saw on the news. At the time they were looking for 3
gunmen. You find it in print. All earlier reports were 3 people and still
are.

http://news10now.com/content/top_sto...asp?ArID=36849

Lucky

You may want to find a better news source.



Brian Hill February 14th 05 06:44 PM


"FDR" wrote in message

Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist?




Many ways. Whats your point?

B.H.



Brian Hill February 14th 05 06:48 PM


"FDR" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message

Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law

ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




That was a stupid thing to say. What differance would that make? With

your
way of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they were used to

take
out the Twin Towers.


You mean those terrorists bought those planes?



B.H.





Why buy when you can steel?

B.H.



:-: Ghost Chip :-: February 15th 05 03:09 AM


"FDR" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in
message

Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the
terrorist?




Many ways. Whats your point?



Well, tell me a few of those ways



B.H.





They steal them from the police, military, manufacturers,
stores, and legitimate owners including old widow ladies.
If they can't steal them those kind will make their own. Then
only they will have them.
The genie won't fit back into the bottle!
Permits and laws only enrich the lawyers, bureaucrats and public
coffers to provide more pork.
Deterrence always works better that punishment!
GC



FDR February 15th 05 02:52 PM


":-: Ghost Chip :-:" wrote in message
news:1KdQd.31544$xt.7126@fed1read07...

"FDR" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message

Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the terrorist?




Many ways. Whats your point?



Well, tell me a few of those ways



B.H.





They steal them from the police,


How?

military,


How?

manufacturers,


How?

stores,


So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that source.

and legitimate owners including old widow ladies.


And if people weren't allowed to own or buy assault weapons that would
eliminate another source.


If they can't steal them those kind will make their own. Then only they
will have them.


Them and the police?

The genie won't fit back into the bottle!
Permits and laws only enrich the lawyers, bureaucrats and public coffers
to provide more pork.
Deterrence always works better that punishment!
GC




Brian Hill February 15th 05 02:57 PM


":-: Ghost Chip :-:" wrote in message
news:1KdQd.31544$xt.7126@fed1read07...

"FDR" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in
message

Well tell me how the gun gets from the manufacturer to the
terrorist?




Many ways. Whats your point?



Well, tell me a few of those ways



B.H.





They steal them from the police, military, manufacturers,
stores, and legitimate owners including old widow ladies.
If they can't steal them those kind will make their own. Then
only they will have them.
The genie won't fit back into the bottle!
Permits and laws only enrich the lawyers, bureaucrats and public
coffers to provide more pork.
Deterrence always works better that punishment!
GC



Not to mention the black market trade in all countries of all nations of the
world. There's knockoff weapons being made all the time too in clandestine
factories that resemble Mac 10s and AKs etc... We have major countries like
Russia that have people in military supply strapped for cash letting things
slip by. There are arms dealers running around all over the globe pawning
this stuff.

B.H.



Brian Hill February 15th 05 02:57 PM


"Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 06:24:01 -0600, Brian Hill expelled the following:


"Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:34:39 -0800, miso expelled the following:

I believe in gun control, but in fairness, these attacks are almost

always
using semi-automatic weapons.


Gun control is a rediculous concept. It does not apply to criminals.
Matter of fact, NO LAW applies to criminals.

Kudos to the 2 employees that tackled the ass, they should have shot

him
dead....



People that have had little or no contact with guns usually rely on the

TV
info they see to base their opinions. Us that have grown up with guns
realize that guns have little to do with crime and that humans are the
ultimate weapon and guns are only a tool. They have a hard time
understanding why any one would need or want automatic firearms. I like
all types of guns and collect them primarily because there neat and I
collect a lot of other things to I find interesting including old

radios,
guitars, antiques and small handmade brass trains. I'm the type of

person
that loves mechanics and guns represent some of mans greatest

achievements
in mechanical design. Yes it's sad that some were designed to kill

humans
but war is a catalyst that pushes the envelope in technology and these
thing are product of that. Is my collecting guns making the world a

worse
place? I don't think so and NO guns don't turn you into a killer.

B.H.



Just for the record I personally don't own a gun and have no interest in
owning one at present. I just think the "gun laws" are rediculous. These
kind of scumbags will always get weapons regardless of how many "laws"
they pass...



Yep. I agree Fredrick.

B.H.



uncle arnie February 16th 05 12:59 AM

FDR wrote:


"luckydaze" wrote in message
...
3 gun men open fire with automatic weapons in a NY mall shooting serveral
people.

They were wearing all black and had machine guns.
What does that tell you?

They shot people randomly also.

Watch then try and cover it up..


Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky

Gotta wade in here and expand the OT more OT (as if the topic has never been
over discussed here):
Gun laws will not prevent determined people (terrorists or other criminals).
They may prevent some crimes of passion - data is scarce on that. They
probably prevent some drive-byes. Well, its hard to have a drive by
knifing. (okay that's a joke). I think the culture and structure of a
society is mostly responsible for violence. Canada didn't have gun laws
until about 20 years ago and now has very stringent ones - at terrible
expense (we don't know about scandal --- Yet!). Violence with firearms has
always been less here than the USA. In my province there is no enforcement
of the federal gun law - too expensive for too little return for one thing.
There were 600-700 murders in Canada last year - 32 million people - about
the same as L.A. How many there? Probably many things together account for
violence in a society.

Brian Hill February 16th 05 01:01 AM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message

I know of one police shotgun that was stolen from a cruiser while the

LEO's
were inside breaking-up a domestic. Actually, the entire cruiser was

stolen
and recovered within 15 minutes (sans shotgun). I remember one officer in
Florida that left his gun in the bathroom of a restaurant. It went missing
by the time he realized what he had forgotten (at least his fly was
zipped). I guess this means it's reasonable and prudent to disarm our
police?



Jd I've lived and worked in some tough cities around the . I was in Oakland
heading to Berkley to work on a Pyramid Brewery job and anyway I stopped at
this stop light and two guys started taking stuff right out of the back of
my truck wile I was stopped at the light? I couldn't even chase the MoFos
because of the traffic and twenty other MoFos ready to snatch the rest if
I'd have left the truck and ran after them. They grabbed a $1000 portable
tig welder about the size of a big lunch box and a hand threader. Damn I was
****ed!!! I got my wallet snatched in Panama. Right out of my inside breast
pocket. How I'll never know? The point is, there are theives out there that
know their ****.

B.H.



uncle arnie February 16th 05 01:03 AM

Brian Hill wrote:


"FDR" wrote in message

Hey, a tribute to the Republicans for letting the assault weapon law ban
end. Let's put more in the hands of terrorists.



Lucky




That was a stupid thing to say. What differance would that make? With your
way of thinking, we should outlaw airplanes because they were used to take
out the Twin Towers.

B.H.


Maybe outlaw penises because occasionally one fathers a psychopath? (Sorry,
can't help myself. Nothing like over-simplifying complex issues into
opposites. This MUST be genetic for humans - unable to understand the
shades of grey between positions.)


FDR February 16th 05 04:40 AM


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
...
On Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:52:06a, "FDR"

wrote in message :

So if stores didn't sell assault weapons that would eliminate that

source.



If car dealerships didn't sell death-mobiles, tens of thousands of people
wouldn't die every year. What's your point?


Cars get people and products to places. Guns make nice holes in targets and
people. I can see how you can confuse the two snce they are so similar.


and legitimate owners including old widow ladies.


And if people weren't allowed to own or buy assault weapons that would
eliminate another source.



You are presuming that, not only would law-abiding citizens comply (many,
unfortunately would) -- but further, You are presuming that the black-
market and criminals would comply as well. In every case I'm aware of, the
disarming of a formerly armed populace has seen both a surge in crime
rates
as well as a flourishing black-market in firearms.


I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace has no
need for high power, assualt weapons.




Brian Hill February 16th 05 06:40 AM


"FDR" wrote in message


I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace has no
need for high power, assualt weapons.



Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my assualt
rifle. Take care.

B.H.



[email protected] February 16th 05 07:30 AM

Los Angeles isn't thirty two million people.The entire state population
of California is between about thirty four to thirty six million
people,including millions of ILLEGAL WETBACKS! Go look it up in a Rand
McNally Road Atlas or look it up online.The only reason CanaDUH has less
crime and murders than U.S.A.is because the population of CANADUH is
much,much,much less than the population of U.S.A.By the way,it isn't
necessary to use a gun to fire a Cartridge (Cartridge in,Bullet out) to
send a Bullet on it's way.
cuhulin


FDR February 16th 05 12:32 PM


"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message


I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace has no
need for high power, assualt weapons.



Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my assualt
rifle. Take care.


I feel sorry for your victims.


B.H.





dxAce February 16th 05 12:45 PM



FDR wrote:

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message


I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace has no
need for high power, assualt weapons.



Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my assualt
rifle. Take care.


I feel sorry for your victims.


Victims? Sounds to me like he's a law abiding citizen. What's your excuse, 'tard
boy?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



FDR February 16th 05 04:20 PM


"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message


I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace

has
no
need for high power, assualt weapons.



Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my

assualt
rifle. Take care.

I feel sorry for your victims.

Victims? Sounds to me like he's a law abiding citizen. What's your

excuse,
'tard
boy?


I love ****ing off people like you.


dxAce
Michigan
USA





To bad your not smart enough to pull it off. Later you liberal Nazi.


But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are
easy.


B.H.





dxAce February 16th 05 04:24 PM



FDR wrote:

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message


I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the populace

has
no
need for high power, assualt weapons.



Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my

assualt
rifle. Take care.

I feel sorry for your victims.

Victims? Sounds to me like he's a law abiding citizen. What's your

excuse,
'tard
boy?

I love ****ing off people like you.


dxAce
Michigan
USA





To bad your not smart enough to pull it off. Later you liberal Nazi.


But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are
easy.


You can't read, 'tard boy. I did not label you a NAZI.

Take those meds and you might just get something right today.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Brian Hill February 16th 05 04:46 PM


"FDR" wrote in message
...

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message


I'm not aksing to disarm a populace. I'm saying that the

populace
has
no
need for high power, assualt weapons.



Say it all you want. It's America. Now I think I'll go clean my

assualt
rifle. Take care.

I feel sorry for your victims.

Victims? Sounds to me like he's a law abiding citizen. What's your

excuse,
'tard
boy?

I love ****ing off people like you.


dxAce
Michigan
USA





To bad your not smart enough to pull it off. Later you liberal Nazi.


But it has. You and he have labeled me a Nazi and a 'tard. You guys are
easy.


B.H.





I'm not mad. I like you. Your a nice little Nazi. Hey I got one for ya!

How does Hitler tie his shoes?

B.H.



[email protected] February 16th 05 05:27 PM

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cuhulin



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