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"The End of Radio"
Wired magazine has dedicated their March issue to what they call "The End of
Radio" -- a series of articles on digital radio, podcasting, and satellite radio. http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/022405/index.asp http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/stern.html |
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I was anticipating that exact sentiment to be expressed here. If and when it becomes economically prohibitive for powerhouse networks to broadcast over the airwaves due to all the lord high advertising revenue going satellite, it will only open the way WIDE OPEN for a group of "rebels" to make use of good old fashioned radio. As a matter of fact, if you have just five cents worth of socio-psychology, you'd understand full well that there would be a huge group of people that would turn from the main stream and tune into the new age "underground" culture that uses good old fashioned radio waves to bring their message, music, media etc free of the oppressive commercial laden satellite jerk-offs. Bank on it.... If and when satellite does away with radio, radio will become free, and unencumbered by mass-media money grubbing pigs, and thus, attract the masses again until it becomes commercialized again. In short... Radio wont die... Just evolve... At the very worst, it will indeed even become way more interesting then it is now. Michael My view on Stern and his type going to satellite is: Good-bye, why are you still here? Maybe all of talk radio will follow as well. I live near Ocala Fl and there is no decent radio around here. After hurricanes Frances and especially Jeanne the stations were off the air. No local news, hardwired telephone service was spotty and the cell system was almost useless. What did we get when the stations started coming back on? Silly kids yaking all night long thinking they are funny and bad reports of where to find ice or water. The next station that came on mentioned the hurricane and went back to Rush Limbagh. The last thing people need when they have no power, little food or water is boring syndicated talk radio. If I was working there I would have pushed to get as much accurate information as I could to the people who needed it. What good would Satellite radio be during a disaster? Let them have the rubbish they deserve. Even though my favorite AM radio station is on Sirius, I can't, and won't spend a monthly fee like that for one radio station. FOr the same price I can get broadband internet instead of dialup and listen to a stream while stuck at home all the time. -- Beware of those who post from srvinet.com! Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Yeh. yeh, yeh...
and by the late 1900s my fifth grade teacher told us we'd all be riding around in air suspension cars. Yawn. This rally 'round the "new technologies" is crap. Few of these things work as well as we are told they do on paper. And those who are most enthused are those who stand to gain financially. Period. We're all fools to gobble up this gadgetry that rarely works as well as it is touted. It is nothing more than a planned cycle to keep us buying. Take a look at your local thrift store and see what you paid $400 for only ten years ago that is now "obsolete." Yup, we're damned gullible idiots. And those in the "new technologies" business are laughing their asses off at us. "Fredrick Garvin" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 01:23:41 +0000, Mike Terry expelled the following: Wired magazine has dedicated their March issue to what they call "The End of Radio" -- a series of articles on digital radio, podcasting, and satellite radio. http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/news/022405/index.asp http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/stern.html Chicken little reporting at it's finest I'll bet... |
So the sky is falling (again) on SW/MW radio.
I say "Let it Fall!" It uses up too much valuable bandwidth! Steve |
From: "Michael A. Terrell" Organization: Airwaves Digest http://www.Airwaves.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting,rec.radio.shortwave Date: 1 Mar 2005 05:16:13 GMT Subject: "The End of Radio" (snip) My view on Stern and his type going to satellite is: Good-bye, why are you still here? Maybe all of talk radio will follow as well. I live near Ocala Fl and there is no decent radio around here. After hurricanes Frances and especially Jeanne the stations were off the air. No local news, hardwired telephone service was spotty and the cell system was almost useless. What did we get when the stations started coming back on? Silly kids yaking all night long thinking they are funny and bad reports of where to find ice or water. The next station that came on mentioned the hurricane and went back to Rush Limbagh. The last thing people need when they have no power, little food or water is boring syndicated talk radio. If I was working there I would have pushed to get as much accurate information as I could to the people who needed it. What good would Satellite radio be during a disaster? Let them have the rubbish they deserve. Even though my favorite AM radio station is on Sirius, I can't, and won't spend a monthly fee like that for one radio station. FOr the same price I can get broadband internet instead of dialup and listen to a stream while stuck at home all the time. -- Beware of those who post from srvinet.com! Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Michael - Can you pick up WFLA, Orlando, on 540? I found that station pretty useful during the hurricanes except, of course, for local info. I live in Lakeland and can pick them up even in the daytime. WFLA 970 in Tampa is stronger here and they had decent storm-related info too. But none of the powerhouse stations are in a position to serve the Ocala area with local news. One source you could check out is the local ham emerg. net on VHF. Their traffic usually includes info on supplies being delivered to aid stations as well as general storm and survival-related info. BTW, how much do you pay for broadband internet? I pay $40/month for Road Runner. I believe XM radio is "only" $10.95/month. I am tempted to try it since I am in my car a good portion of my work day and there is zero on AM radio that interests me. FM is almost as bad. Regards, Greg |
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Michael - Can you pick up WFLA, Orlando, on 540? I found that station pretty useful during the hurricanes except, of course, for local info. I live in Lakeland and can pick them up even in the daytime. WFLA 970 in Tampa is stronger here and they had decent storm-related info too. But none of the powerhouse stations are in a position to serve the Ocala area with local news. One source you could check out is the local ham emerg. net on VHF. Their traffic usually includes info on supplies being delivered to aid stations as well as general storm and survival-related info. I can pick up both of them, but neither are very clear. The only two meter receiver I have at the moment needs a regulated 12 VDC power supply and was out in my shop where I couldn't get to it. BTW, how much do you pay for broadband internet? I pay $40/month for Road Runner. I believe XM radio is "only" $10.95/month. I am tempted to try it since I am in my car a good portion of my work day and there is zero on AM radio that interests me. FM is almost as bad. Regards, Greg Earthlink is $45 a month, the same as RR or AOL broadband here in Belleview. I don't drive much anymore, I have Carpal Tunnel in both hands and nerve damage so a drive across town can be painful. I am now on full disability because I can't work any set schedule and it drives me crazy. I was working at Microdyne as a test and engineering tech when I had to stop working a few years ago. I'll bet there is still some equipment in use in stations you've seen that was built in Ocala, or their AFC microwave antennas. I wanted to fix up a nice shop here at home to enjoy my retirement by collecting and restoring oddball electronics. My benches are still covered with plastic since the hurricanes. I was out there today and one of my shelves has snapped due to water damage. I agree with nothing good on the local radio stations. The only station I would listen to on Satellite is WSM, and its on Sirius. Since I'm at home 90 percent of the time I figured it was cheaper to spend the money on a better internet feed. I have a friend who is still an active contract engineer in the area and get the horror stories when he has time to stop by the house. If you're anywhere close to Ocala email me sometime. -- Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
From: "Michael A. Terrell" Organization: Airwaves Digest http://www.Airwaves.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting,rec.radio.shortwave Date: 2 Mar 2005 03:27:27 GMT Subject: "The End of Radio" Greg wrote: Michael - Can you pick up WFLA, Orlando, on 540? I found that station pretty useful during the hurricanes except, of course, for local info. I live in Lakeland and can pick them up even in the daytime. WFLA 970 in Tampa is stronger here and they had decent storm-related info too. But none of the powerhouse stations are in a position to serve the Ocala area with local news. One source you could check out is the local ham emerg. net on VHF. Their traffic usually includes info on supplies being delivered to aid stations as well as general storm and survival-related info. I can pick up both of them, but neither are very clear. The only two meter receiver I have at the moment needs a regulated 12 VDC power supply and was out in my shop where I couldn't get to it. BTW, how much do you pay for broadband internet? I pay $40/month for Road Runner. I believe XM radio is "only" $10.95/month. I am tempted to try it since I am in my car a good portion of my work day and there is zero on AM radio that interests me. FM is almost as bad. Regards, Greg Earthlink is $45 a month, the same as RR or AOL broadband here in Belleview. I don't drive much anymore, I have Carpal Tunnel in both hands and nerve damage so a drive across town can be painful. I am now on full disability because I can't work any set schedule and it drives me crazy. I was working at Microdyne as a test and engineering tech when I had to stop working a few years ago. I'll bet there is still some equipment in use in stations you've seen that was built in Ocala, or their AFC microwave antennas. I wanted to fix up a nice shop here at home to enjoy my retirement by collecting and restoring oddball electronics. My benches are still covered with plastic since the hurricanes. I was out there today and one of my shelves has snapped due to water damage. I agree with nothing good on the local radio stations. The only station I would listen to on Satellite is WSM, and its on Sirius. Since I'm at home 90 percent of the time I figured it was cheaper to spend the money on a better internet feed. I have a friend who is still an active contract engineer in the area and get the horror stories when he has time to stop by the house. If you're anywhere close to Ocala email me sometime. -- Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Thanks for the invite. Sorry to hear about the storm damage to your shop. I was lucky here in Lakeland. Jeanne was the worst of the hurricanes for us but all the damage I suffered was outside - trees down in the back yard, fence damage, etc. I still have the lower portion of a large elm lying on my crushed storage shed, but there's not much of value in there. WFLA TV (chan 8/Tampa) was a good info source during all the storms, WFLA radio was decent, and I have several scanners, so I could monitor local hams and public service agencies around the area. I'm sure members of this group would be interested when you get your shop up and running Best regards, Greg |
The end of radio...not if you have a good team, creative not follow the
"sheep". KFI in LA best talk station in the country the talent of course is important the station sounds exciting, best news tight production . Sorry to say the music stations "AIN'T" got it. The elements that make great radio stations will always be around for those who know how to use those "elements"..roger carroll |
KFI sucks. Typical Clear Channel right-wing reactionary twaddle.
On 4 Mar 2005 06:02:14 GMT, wrote: The end of radio...not if you have a good team, creative not follow the "sheep". KFI in LA best talk station in the country the talent of course is important the station sounds exciting, best news tight production . Sorry to say the music stations "AIN'T" got it. The elements that make great radio stations will always be around for those who know how to use those "elements"..roger carroll |
Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking
about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc |
It is very stale and old-fashioned sounding. They've been using Ratt
for the News Sounder for what, five years now? There news sucks; all Michale Jackson and Robert Blake. Their Drive Time is wall to wall commercials, except for the ranting about the Mexicans. It's awful. I think the best technical air sound is on 1260. On 7 Mar 2005 03:47:22 GMT, "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc |
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"roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
David, I disagree I worked at KMPC for 22 years we had the best news
dept in Los Angeles now it's KFI. The hard news on the hour and half hour also breaking news coverage IMHO is the best. From your comments you don't like KFI, use the "on" and "off" button. I have nothing to do with KFI, as a former air talent, Vice President of Gene Autry's GWB,owner of KMPC, KSFO, KVI, KEX, and owner of radio stations my views are not personal. KFI is far from being stale and old fashion sounding. 1260, you have to be kidding. Are you in broadcasting?? David, I repeat nothing personal, just disagree. Also, don't know her. Terri Raye Elmer KFI, one of the best newscasters in LA. roger carroll, retired living the good life on Alamits Bay David wrote: It is very stale and old-fashioned sounding. They've been using Ratt for the News Sounder for what, five years now? There news sucks; all Michale Jackson and Robert Blake. Their Drive Time is wall to wall commercials, except for the ranting about the Mexicans. It's awful. I think the best technical air sound is on 1260. On 7 Mar 2005 03:47:22 GMT, "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. |
"David" wrote in message ... It is very stale and old-fashioned sounding. They've been using Ratt for the News Sounder for what, five years now? There news sucks; all Michale Jackson and Robert Blake. Their Drive Time is wall to wall commercials, except for the ranting about the Mexicans. It's awful. And it is tied for #1 in LA in the latest Arbitrends. |
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If you don't like it,it must be good then.
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. Well I found this on Radio Magazine http://beradio.com/searchresults/?terms=KFI&ord=d KFI Tower Felled by Plane Crash La Mirada, CA - Dec 19, 2004 - The Associated Press reports that a private plane crashed into the tower of KFI-AM at 9:45 a.m. on Dec. 19. The single-engine Cessna 182 brought the 760' tower down. The two people on the plane were killed. Their identities have not yet been released. The plane was en route to Fullerton Airport from El Monte when it crashed. Fullerton airport is about one mile from the tower site. The FAA reports that the pilot did not issue any distress reports. KFI's tower has resisted earthquakes and a brush with a private plane once before. The tower survived the previous air incident. The tower's guy wires were replaced in March 2004 after 47 years of use. KFI reports that the station was off the air for about an hour before switching to an auxiliary tower at the same site at about 5kW. The station is licensed for 50kW into the main antenna. I have heard them claim 50kW in the past and I thought 640 was one of the old "clear channels." Did they reduce power after putting up a new antenna? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. Do you know when this changed? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW, including the FCC data. dxAce Michigan USA |
And American Idol is the number one TV show.
On 8 Mar 2005 23:22:56 GMT, "David Eduardo" wrote: "David" wrote in message ... It is very stale and old-fashioned sounding. They've been using Ratt for the News Sounder for what, five years now? There news sucks; all Michale Jackson and Robert Blake. Their Drive Time is wall to wall commercials, except for the ranting about the Mexicans. It's awful. And it is tied for #1 in LA in the latest Arbitrends. |
wrote in message ... David, I disagree I worked at KMPC for 22 years we had the best news dept in Los Angeles now it's KFI. The hard news on the hour and half hour also breaking news coverage IMHO is the best. From your comments you don't like KFI, use the "on" and "off" button. I have nothing to do with KFI, as a former air talent, Vice President of Gene Autry's GWB,owner of KMPC, KSFO, KVI, KEX, and owner of radio stations my views are not personal. KFI is far from being stale and old fashion sounding. 1260, you have to be kidding. Are you in broadcasting?? David, I repeat nothing personal, just disagree. Also, don't know her. Terri Raye Elmer KFI, one of the best newscasters in LA. roger carroll, retired living the good life on Alamits Bay David, What Roger may not want to say, I will: GWB, while Roger was there, was one of the absolute finest radio companies in America if not the entire world. Service, responsibility, strong, live personalities, localism, high technical standards, decent treatment of the staff and general responsible business practices while making a profit. Those of us still in radio would be honored to be considered to be in the same league as Roger. Because of this, if roger says it, it is likely 99.9% correct. And that goes for his latest post. |
dxAce" wrote in message
... David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW, including the FCC data. They lost the licensed tower in an aircraft collision late last year. They are running an existing auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation at half-power until such time as the half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. The auxiliary tower, which was put into use within a couple of hours of the aircraft tragedy, can not handle full power as it is very short. Getting permits to rebuild the tower may take many more months. During this time, KFI is running 25 kw. It is not necessary to re-license a station for a bona fide emergency operation. The tower can not immediately be rebuilt as it qualifies as a totally new structure, subject to today's codes and regulations, not those in effect when the old tower was built in 1947. A number of area broadcast engineers or engineering departments have "souvenirs" of the old tower. We have a piece of ATU insulation, a shard from the beacon and a piece of an insulator, as well as some paint flakes in both white and orange. . |
David Eduardo wrote: dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW, including the FCC data. They lost the licensed tower in an aircraft collision late last year. They are running an existing auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation at half-power until such time as the half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. The auxiliary tower, which was put into use within a couple of hours of the aircraft tragedy, can not handle full power as it is very short. Getting permits to rebuild the tower may take many more months. During this time, KFI is running 25 kw. It is not necessary to re-license a station for a bona fide emergency operation. The tower can not immediately be rebuilt as it qualifies as a totally new structure, subject to today's codes and regulations, not those in effect when the old tower was built in 1947. A number of area broadcast engineers or engineering departments have "souvenirs" of the old tower. We have a piece of ATU insulation, a shard from the beacon and a piece of an insulator, as well as some paint flakes in both white and orange. . Yes, I had forgotten the fact that the tower had been toppled a while back. Wasn't there some question at the time as to whether they could actually rebuild on that same site? Unfortunately I am no longer able to hear KFI here due to a local on the frequency, though I do have them QSL'd (one of my very few MW QSL's). I think I will call the local to inquire as to when they might be down for maintenance. dxAce Michigan USA |
David Eduardo wrote:
dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW, including the FCC data. They lost the licensed tower in an aircraft collision late last year. They are running an existing auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation at half-power until such time as the half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. The auxiliary tower, which was put into use within a couple of hours of the aircraft tragedy, can not handle full power as it is very short. Getting permits to rebuild the tower may take many more months. During this time, KFI is running 25 kw. It is not necessary to re-license a station for a bona fide emergency operation. The tower can not immediately be rebuilt as it qualifies as a totally new structure, subject to today's codes and regulations, not those in effect when the old tower was built in 1947. A number of area broadcast engineers or engineering departments have "souvenirs" of the old tower. We have a piece of ATU insulation, a shard from the beacon and a piece of an insulator, as well as some paint flakes in both white and orange. . When KDKA's tower was knocked down in a storm in 1995 they decided to cut it up and sell it as souvenirs. I have a round piece of it, frozen in lucite. The tower dated back to 1920 and was the world's first commercial radio tower. I can't remember how much it cost, but the cost was a donation to the Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Wasn't there some question at the time as to whether they could actually rebuild on that same site? There are many obstacles, including the city where the tower is located and the nearby airport as well as fall zone rules, etc. Best guess a bżmong the local engineering circle is 12 to 18 months, and the tower will probably have to be strobed. Unfortunately I am no longer able to hear KFI here due to a local on the frequency, though I do have them QSL'd (one of my very few MW QSL's). Just 75 miles from the site, I hear the Cd Juarez and Parral, Mexico, stations often on top of KFI. There is no such thing as a clear channel any more. |
"running dogg" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: When KDKA's tower was knocked down in a storm in 1995 they decided to cut it up and sell it as souvenirs. I have a round piece of it, frozen in lucite. The tower dated back to 1920 and was the world's first commercial radio tower. I can't remember how much it cost, but the cost was a donation to the Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh. The hospital got it wrong... and I have several of the Lucite-embedded slices of steel. In about 1928 or 1929 KDKA built the tower that came down in 1995. It actually fell on the first try, and had to be rebuilt. There was an article, including a cover picture, in an 1929 issue of Radio World. Interestingly, they built a ring of 1/8 wave towers around the big tower with a curtain hung from them to attempt to reduce low angle sky wave. I never saw a report anywhere on whether this worked. |
There's an STA.
On 10 Mar 2005 01:14:48 GMT, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW, including the FCC data. dxAce Michigan USA |
Thank You, you are very kind. It's hard to believe how radio has
changed, we had 135 employes at KMPC everyone was a pro....That's the way Gene Autry operated. rc David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message ... David, I disagree I worked at KMPC for 22 years we had the best news dept in Los Angeles now it's KFI. The hard news on the hour and half hour also breaking news coverage IMHO is the best. From your comments you don't like KFI, use the "on" and "off" button. I have nothing to do with KFI, as a former air talent, Vice President of Gene Autry's GWB,owner of KMPC, KSFO, KVI, KEX, and owner of radio stations my views are not personal. KFI is far from being stale and old fashion sounding. 1260, you have to be kidding. Are you in broadcasting?? David, I repeat nothing personal, just disagree. Also, don't know her. Terri Raye Elmer KFI, one of the best newscasters in LA. roger carroll, retired living the good life on Alamits Bay David, What Roger may not want to say, I will: GWB, while Roger was there, was one of the absolute finest radio companies in America if not the entire world. Service, responsibility, strong, live personalities, localism, high technical standards, decent treatment of the staff and general responsible business practices while making a profit. Those of us still in radio would be honored to be considered to be in the same league as Roger. Because of this, if roger says it, it is likely 99.9% correct. And that goes for his latest post. |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. Well I found this on Radio Magazine http://beradio.com/searchresults/?terms=KFI&ord=d KFI Tower Felled by Plane Crash La Mirada, CA - Dec 19, 2004 - The Associated Press reports that a private plane crashed into the tower of KFI-AM at 9:45 a.m. on Dec. 19. The single-engine Cessna 182 brought the 760' tower down. The two people on the plane were killed. Their identities have not yet been released. The plane was en route to Fullerton Airport from El Monte when it crashed. Fullerton airport is about one mile from the tower site. The FAA reports that the pilot did not issue any distress reports. KFI's tower has resisted earthquakes and a brush with a private plane once before. The tower survived the previous air incident. The tower's guy wires were replaced in March 2004 after 47 years of use. KFI reports that the station was off the air for about an hour before switching to an auxiliary tower at the same site at about 5kW. The station is licensed for 50kW into the main antenna. I have heard them claim 50kW in the past and I thought 640 was one of the old "clear channels." It still is a clear channel. However, they have not been able to rebuiled the fallen tower and are still using the aux, but with hihger power than the first few hours. Did they reduce power after putting up a new antenna? The 1/8 wave antenna was the auxiliary tower, used when the 1/2 wave one was being maintained. There has been no replacement or new tower built. |
On 10 Mar 2005 01:14:48 GMT, dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW, including the FCC data. dxAce Michigan USA It changed when KFI's main tower was knocked down by an airplane earlier this year. The incident was widely reported at the time. Mark Howell |
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It's wall to wall misdirection. Michael Jackson and Robert Blake are not news. I am not a fan of explosions and heavy metal stingers. It's all sizzle and no steak. If anybody wants to read about KFI, there's a big cover story article about inside the talk radio biz in the new (April 2005) issue of Atlantic Monthly, featuring the nightime guy there. Trivia, KFI originally stood for "Farm Information". Mark Zenier Washington State resident |
"David" wrote in message ... And American Idol is the number one TV show. Because many people watch it. Duh. |
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. When did they reduce power? Everything I check still shows them at 50 kW, including the FCC data. They lost the tower in an aircraft collision. They are running an existing auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation until such time as the half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. |
Why don't you two get a room at the Dinosaur Hideaway?
KFI is not KMPC. It is a WOAI clone. It is annoying to listen to. It is classless. The only reason they're #1 is the rest of the audience is too fragmented. For good sounding News/Talker try 810. On 10 Mar 2005 01:14:54 GMT, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ... David, I disagree I worked at KMPC for 22 years we had the best news dept in Los Angeles now it's KFI. The hard news on the hour and half hour also breaking news coverage IMHO is the best. From your comments you don't like KFI, use the "on" and "off" button. I have nothing to do with KFI, as a former air talent, Vice President of Gene Autry's GWB,owner of KMPC, KSFO, KVI, KEX, and owner of radio stations my views are not personal. KFI is far from being stale and old fashion sounding. 1260, you have to be kidding. Are you in broadcasting?? David, I repeat nothing personal, just disagree. Also, don't know her. Terri Raye Elmer KFI, one of the best newscasters in LA. roger carroll, retired living the good life on Alamits Bay David, What Roger may not want to say, I will: GWB, while Roger was there, was one of the absolute finest radio companies in America if not the entire world. Service, responsibility, strong, live personalities, localism, high technical standards, decent treatment of the staff and general responsible business practices while making a profit. Those of us still in radio would be honored to be considered to be in the same league as Roger. Because of this, if roger says it, it is likely 99.9% correct. And that goes for his latest post. |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "David Eduardo" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "roger carroll" wrote: Sorry David your personal political views are showing....I'm talking about the sound of the station. If KFI was "left wing" it would still be the best sounding station in LA nothing to do with politics,,,they do everything the correct way and tied for number #1 in LA. rc KFI is 50kW with a real nice antenna. Actually, it is 25 kw with a top-loaded 1/8 wave vertical. There is no "nice" antenna anymore. Do you know when this changed? A few hours after the 750 foot tower fell. |
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:02:51 GMT, "David Eduardo"
They lost the licensed tower in an aircraft collision late last year. They are running an existing auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation at half-power until such time as the half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. The auxiliary tower, which was put into use within a couple of hours of the aircraft tragedy, can not handle full power as it is very short. Getting permits to rebuild the tower may take many more months. During this time, KFI is running 25 kw. It is not necessary to re-license a station for a bona fide emergency operation. The tower can not immediately be rebuilt as it qualifies as a totally new structure, subject to today's codes and regulations, not those in effect when the old tower was built in 1947. KTAR does really well with a 440' tower. KFI may have to make do with something similar. |
"David" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:02:51 GMT, "David Eduardo" They lost the licensed tower in an aircraft collision late last year. They are running an existing auxiliary tower in a nonconforming operation at half-power until such time as the half-waver can be rebuilt at the current site or a new site found. The auxiliary tower, which was put into use within a couple of hours of the aircraft tragedy, can not handle full power as it is very short. Getting permits to rebuild the tower may take many more months. During this time, KFI is running 25 kw. It is not necessary to re-license a station for a bona fide emergency operation. The tower can not immediately be rebuilt as it qualifies as a totally new structure, subject to today's codes and regulations, not those in effect when the old tower was built in 1947. KTAR does really well with a 440' tower. KFI may have to make do with something similar. They could do the 50 kw into the 1/8th wave tower, but it was built as an auxiliary tower and the ATU will not take 50 kw. Since the metro coverage is satisfactory with 25 kw, and metro coverage is all they care about, it is unlikely they will "fix" the small tower until they get the 1/2 wave tower back in operation. In fact, they had their best book ever after the tower fell and they were on lower power on a less efficient tower. |
wrote in message ... Thank You, you are very kind. It's hard to believe how radio has changed, we had 135 employes at KMPC everyone was a pro....That's the way Gene Autry operated. rc That is why I am in the Hispanic sector and in Latin America. Recently did a project with a news-talk in Argentina, where the morning news and information show has 47 staffers... including a staff comedian who does hourly parodies! In the US, nearly all Hispanic stations are live and local, know that community service actually gets ratings, and where radio is still a profession. I recall visiting KSFO in about 1961 as a teen and remembering that it was filled with courteous people who actually thought it was significant that a 13-year-old would visit them. today, stations have to have metal detectors to keep criminals out! I look forward to more of your postings here. |
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