running dogg wrote:

It used to be that I could hear morning prayers from Saudi Arabia on
15170 starting around 0300-Passport says it's a three hour broadcast,
but it usually fades out around 0430-0500 as the sun rises over Saudi
Arabia. So I tried it last night, and there was nothing. I tried SSB,
and there was no hint of a signal. I used to listen to this station
every so often for a while after 9-11, but I hadn't tuned in in about a
year to a year and a half. It would be weak but readable, but conditions
have been so terrible lately that I'm not surprised that I can't hear
it. What a winter-I've barely been able to hear the BBC, much less
anything not beamed my direction.

Where are you located? I've head quite good BBC to americas, BBC to Africa,
Australia to pacific, Japan, China and a few others for the past 10 days or
so. I'm at 53N 102W, in Saskatchewan. Listening with an R75 and 100m
(~110 yds) of wire. Most of this listening is around 0400 and then again
round about 1200 UTC. (evening and morning here locally)

uncle arnie wrote:

running dogg wrote:

It used to be that I could hear morning prayers from Saudi Arabia on
15170 starting around 0300-Passport says it's a three hour broadcast,
but it usually fades out around 0430-0500 as the sun rises over Saudi
Arabia. So I tried it last night, and there was nothing. I tried SSB,
and there was no hint of a signal. I used to listen to this station
every so often for a while after 9-11, but I hadn't tuned in in about a
year to a year and a half. It would be weak but readable, but conditions
have been so terrible lately that I'm not surprised that I can't hear
it. What a winter-I've barely been able to hear the BBC, much less
anything not beamed my direction.

Where are you located? I've head quite good BBC to americas, BBC to Africa,
Australia to pacific, Japan, China and a few others for the past 10 days or
so. I'm at 53N 102W, in Saskatchewan. Listening with an R75 and 100m
(~110 yds) of wire. Most of this listening is around 0400 and then again
round about 1200 UTC. (evening and morning here locally)

I'm listening around 0300 on 5975 and 9525 khz. I keep getting a racket
on 9525 that drowns out the BBC that must be coming from somewhere in my
immediate vicinity. Someone suggested dimmer switches, and while I don't
have any I can't speak for any of the neighbors. 5975 seems to come in
good, although it has a level of noise that makes it necessary to listen
with SSB. I'm located in Sacramento, California, about 90 miles inland
from San Francisco. I'm using a FRG-8800 with about 50 feet of wire. I
haven't tried any of BBC's other streams. Maybe I'll do that tonight.


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running dogg wrote:

uncle arnie wrote:

running dogg wrote:

It used to be that I could hear morning prayers from Saudi Arabia on
15170 starting around 0300-Passport says it's a three hour broadcast,
but it usually fades out around 0430-0500 as the sun rises over Saudi
Arabia. So I tried it last night, and there was nothing. I tried SSB,
and there was no hint of a signal. I used to listen to this station
every so often for a while after 9-11, but I hadn't tuned in in about a
year to a year and a half. It would be weak but readable, but
conditions have been so terrible lately that I'm not surprised that I
can't hear it. What a winter-I've barely been able to hear the BBC,
much less anything not beamed my direction.

Where are you located? I've head quite good BBC to americas, BBC to
Africa, Australia to pacific, Japan, China and a few others for the past
10 days or
so. I'm at 53N 102W, in Saskatchewan. Listening with an R75 and 100m
(~110 yds) of wire. Most of this listening is around 0400 and then again
round about 1200 UTC. (evening and morning here locally)

I'm listening around 0300 on 5975 and 9525 khz. I keep getting a racket
on 9525 that drowns out the BBC that must be coming from somewhere in my
immediate vicinity. Someone suggested dimmer switches, and while I don't
have any I can't speak for any of the neighbors. 5975 seems to come in
good, although it has a level of noise that makes it necessary to listen
with SSB. I'm located in Sacramento, California, about 90 miles inland
from San Francisco. I'm using a FRG-8800 with about 50 feet of wire. I
haven't tried any of BBC's other streams. Maybe I'll do that tonight.

I do well with 6005 Africa stream which I think starts at 0500 and also
6135. I also get RN from Sackville nicely on 6165.

I've read about "broadband over powerlines". If I have this right, this is
internet signal on electric wires. Don't know it that has actually started
to happen down there - we're not proposed for that here. We have deeply
buried utilities (water, sewer, electric, phone, cable). They have to put
these down deep enough so that they don't freeze, which means we are well
shielded from interference. These are down about 3 metres or almost 10
feet. One of the few benefits of these long winter nights, though today
was actually great, at about -8C / 18 F. I can tell when my one neighbour
is vacuuming however and running the something else, I think may be a
blender. I may ask and do an experiment....

uncle arnie wrote:

running dogg wrote:

uncle arnie wrote:

running dogg wrote:

It used to be that I could hear morning prayers from Saudi Arabia on
15170 starting around 0300-Passport says it's a three hour broadcast,
but it usually fades out around 0430-0500 as the sun rises over Saudi
Arabia. So I tried it last night, and there was nothing. I tried SSB,
and there was no hint of a signal. I used to listen to this station
every so often for a while after 9-11, but I hadn't tuned in in about a
year to a year and a half. It would be weak but readable, but
conditions have been so terrible lately that I'm not surprised that I
can't hear it. What a winter-I've barely been able to hear the BBC,
much less anything not beamed my direction.

Where are you located? I've head quite good BBC to americas, BBC to
Africa, Australia to pacific, Japan, China and a few others for the past
10 days or
so. I'm at 53N 102W, in Saskatchewan. Listening with an R75 and 100m
(~110 yds) of wire. Most of this listening is around 0400 and then again
round about 1200 UTC. (evening and morning here locally)

I'm listening around 0300 on 5975 and 9525 khz. I keep getting a racket
on 9525 that drowns out the BBC that must be coming from somewhere in my
immediate vicinity. Someone suggested dimmer switches, and while I don't
have any I can't speak for any of the neighbors. 5975 seems to come in
good, although it has a level of noise that makes it necessary to listen
with SSB. I'm located in Sacramento, California, about 90 miles inland
from San Francisco. I'm using a FRG-8800 with about 50 feet of wire. I
haven't tried any of BBC's other streams. Maybe I'll do that tonight.

I do well with 6005 Africa stream which I think starts at 0500 and also
6135. I also get RN from Sackville nicely on 6165.

I've read about "broadband over powerlines". If I have this right, this is
internet signal on electric wires. Don't know it that has actually started
to happen down there - we're not proposed for that here. We have deeply
buried utilities (water, sewer, electric, phone, cable). They have to put
these down deep enough so that they don't freeze, which means we are well
shielded from interference. These are down about 3 metres or almost 10
feet. One of the few benefits of these long winter nights, though today
was actually great, at about -8C / 18 F. I can tell when my one neighbour
is vacuuming however and running the something else, I think may be a
blender. I may ask and do an experiment....

Our utilities out here were run by morons. No grounds (eventually
grounds were put in), cheap materials. RF sources abound. A couple years
ago there was an arcing transformer on one of the poles. So I DF it and
tell SMUD (local electric company) all about it, and nothing was done
because the girl on the phone had no clue what I was talking about. A
few months later that transformer blew, plunging the whole area into
darkness at 2am.

As for BPL, you're right it's internet on electric "mains" lines. It
doesn't work all that well for what it's designed for. The only thing it
does well is spew QRM from 80 Mhz on down. So far, this latest attempt
to make money hasn't gotten past the test stage. Most other countries
have rejected it. And it's unlikely to make any inroads in poor places
like Africa, which was the intention. Internet by satellite works much
better.



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uncle arnie wrote:

running dogg wrote:

uncle arnie wrote:

running dogg wrote:

It used to be that I could hear morning prayers from Saudi Arabia
on
15170 starting around 0300-Passport says it's a three hour
broadcast,
but it usually fades out around 0430-0500 as the sun rises over
Saudi
Arabia. So I tried it last night, and there was nothing. I tried
SSB,
and there was no hint of a signal. I used to listen to this station
every so often for a while after 9-11, but I hadn't tuned in in
about a
year to a year and a half. It would be weak but readable, but
conditions have been so terrible lately that I'm not surprised that
I
can't hear it. What a winter-I've barely been able to hear the BBC,
much less anything not beamed my direction.

Where are you located? I've head quite good BBC to americas, BBC to
Africa, Australia to pacific, Japan, China and a few others for the
past
10 days or
so. I'm at 53N 102W, in Saskatchewan. Listening with an R75 and
100m
(~110 yds) of wire. Most of this listening is around 0400 and then
again
round about 1200 UTC. (evening and morning here locally)

I'm listening around 0300 on 5975 and 9525 khz. I keep getting a
racket
on 9525 that drowns out the BBC that must be coming from somewhere in
my
immediate vicinity. Someone suggested dimmer switches, and while I
don't
have any I can't speak for any of the neighbors. 5975 seems to come in
good, although it has a level of noise that makes it necessary to
listen
with SSB. I'm located in Sacramento, California, about 90 miles inland
from San Francisco. I'm using a FRG-8800 with about 50 feet of wire. I
haven't tried any of BBC's other streams. Maybe I'll do that tonight.

I do well with 6005 Africa stream which I think starts at 0500 and also
6135. I also get RN from Sackville nicely on 6165.

I've read about "broadband over powerlines". If I have this right, this
is
internet signal on electric wires. Don't know it that has actually
started
to happen down there - we're not proposed for that here. We have deeply
buried utilities (water, sewer, electric, phone, cable). They have to
put
these down deep enough so that they don't freeze, which means we are
well
shielded from interference. These are down about 3 metres or almost 10
feet. One of the few benefits of these long winter nights, though today
was actually great, at about -8C / 18 F. I can tell when my one
neighbour
is vacuuming however and running the something else, I think may be a
blender. I may ask and do an experiment....

Our utilities out here were run by morons. No grounds (eventually
grounds were put in), cheap materials. RF sources abound. A couple years
ago there was an arcing transformer on one of the poles. So I DF it and
tell SMUD (local electric company) all about it, and nothing was done
because the girl on the phone had no clue what I was talking about. A
few months later that transformer blew, plunging the whole area into
darkness at 2am.

As for BPL, you're right it's internet on electric "mains" lines. It
doesn't work all that well for what it's designed for. The only thing it
does well is spew QRM from 80 Mhz on down. So far, this latest attempt
to make money hasn't gotten past the test stage. Most other countries
have rejected it. And it's unlikely to make any inroads in poor places
like Africa, which was the intention. Internet by satellite works much
better.



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I can receive Saudi A.very well in the Netherlands.

AOR3000a
Kenwood R1000
25m wire + Balun

uncle arnie wrote:

running dogg wrote:

..

Our utilities out here were run by morons. No grounds (eventually
grounds were put in), cheap materials. RF sources abound. A couple years
ago there was an arcing transformer on one of the poles. So I DF it and
tell SMUD (local electric company) all about it, and nothing was done
because the girl on the phone had no clue what I was talking about. A
few months later that transformer blew, plunging the whole area into
darkness at 2am.


Lawsuit? Get some legislation in place to regulate these bad boys? I never
realized the benefits of having Siberia-like winters. This has cheered my
day (which is a good thing as we start our 5th month of winter). Last year
the ice left the lakes second week of June. Yes, I want cheese with my
whine!

Do you realize how much a lawyer COSTS in America? Several hundred
dollars an HOUR. If I had that kind of money, I wouldn't be living in
this part of town, that's for damn sure.


As for BPL, you're right it's internet on electric "mains" lines. It
doesn't work all that well for what it's designed for. The only thing it
does well is spew QRM from 80 Mhz on down. So far, this latest attempt
to make money hasn't gotten past the test stage. Most other countries
have rejected it. And it's unlikely to make any inroads in poor places
like Africa, which was the intention. Internet by satellite works much
better.


They're doing it by cell phone signal or something so far here, which is
very expensive. I can't imagine satellite is cheap right now.

Not now, but I've heard of areas where even cell phones can't reach
(like deep in the mountains) where satellite internet is feasible.

Regarding poor countries, I heard a RN broadcast about a Swiss company that
does "micro loans" of usually less than $1000, which is used to finance a
cell phone and in some cases a tower for poor villages. The cell phone
owner and money borrower than sells air time to the other villagers. They
call the city and determine when to market their produce, and call their
overseas relatives without having to travel to a town with a landline. I
would think the next logical step would be internet access via micro loan.
This sort of thing sounds so sensible to me.


The micro loans I've heard about are for people in poor countries to
start small one person businesses to feed their families, but this is a
logical extension. And yes, it's so much more sensible than BPL, which
doesn't work well in America and Japan, can you imagine how it would
(not) work in someplace that has decrepit infrastructure and power for
four hours a day?


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