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Max Power March 12th 05 12:29 PM

Voyager probes in funding crisis
 
Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about $4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to explore the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of the fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone of the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm

Published: 2005/03/10 19:58:54 GMT

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm

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Bush will not finance any science project that conflicts with the
Bible.
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masturbates in some dark corner of Heaven.
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stretching that thread of rampant paranoia just a little too tight with=20
that idea.

Jonsie the Perv March 12th 05 04:56 PM


"Max Power" wrote in message
...
Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save

money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion and

11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about $4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.


4.2M a year to run two objects that are 14 billion km away from Earth
??????

I mean "Jeeze Louise"!

....and I thought Politicians were raping the Public Trust blind via
bullshi+ programs.


Jonsie the Perv March 12th 05 05:04 PM


"David" wrote in message
...

Bush will not finance any science project that conflicts with the
Bible.

In other words, the probes might accidently run over God, while he
masturbates in some dark corner of Heaven.


BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.......................HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crap damm I laughed so freakin hard at that
one above, I just passed 3/4 a Cup of Pepsi thru
my nosehair passages!

Mr. Johnson
http://www.rathergood.com/mr_johnson/

"Sometimes a pile of **** is just a pile of ****, There is no pony."
- Abe the Pervert in alt.fan.big-tittie-necrobabes




Li Changchun March 12th 05 08:27 PM

"David" wrote

Bush will not finance any science project that conflicts with the
Bible.

In other words, the probes might accidently run over God, while he
masturbates in some dark corner of Heaven.


Spending Taxpayers' Money-Surprising Differences Between China and the U.S.

China's CCTV recently broadcast a program titled "Letting the World Get to
Know China." Mayor Cui of Weihai City, Shandong Province, China, and Mayor
Ives from Redmond, Washington were guests of the show. The mayors discussed
the construction and development going on in their cities. Towards the end
of the program, both mayors extended an invitation to the other to visit.

Their responses show us some surprising differences in the two societies.
Both mayors happily accepted the other's invitation; however, Mayor Ives
said that a trip to China was not in her city's budget. She explained that
office expenses are paid for by the taxpayers' money and that a personal
trip to China would require sponsorship rather than having Redmond residents
pay for it.

In contrast, Mayor Cui cheerfully accepted the invitation to visit
Washington without any concern about travel expenses. He also told Mayor
Ives without hesitation that he would pay for all her travel expenses to
China, which were calculated to be more than five thousand U.S. dollars or
over 40,000 Chinese yuan.
....
In China, however, anything that is considered a "public issue" will get
full reimbursement. For that reason, Mayor Cui does not need to worry about
paying for his trip out of his own pocket and can also cover Mayor Ives's
travel expenses. Several decades of the Communist Party's corrupt rule have
encouraged officials from various levels of government to selfishly satisfy
their personal interests to travel by calling it a "public issue." Each year
these corrupt officials consume several hundred million yuan of China's
income.

By spending more than 80,000 yuan of Chinese taxpayers' money, Mayor Cui
will be able to indulge in traveling and sightseeing without contributing
anything positive to China or its people. How many mayors in China are like
Mayor Cui? Untold millions of yuan have vanished like this.
....
http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-3-11/26970.html

The Chinese Ministry of Public Security estimates that approximately 500
corrupt CCP officials have fled overseas, taking with them combined assets
of US$8.46 billion. The corrupt officials have thus established an escape
path for others to follow: Transfer capital, send family members overseas,
prepare passports, abuse their power to enrich their pockets, quit their job
without notice and obtain legal resident status overseas.
....
Another abnormal phenomenon is that high-ranking CCP officials, who claim to
be atheistic, are frequently seen visiting temples, burning joss sticks and
seeking out the Buddha's blessing.
....
The recent phenomenon of high-ranking CCP officials seeking blessings from
gods and Buddha is a confirmation of the ancient saying of "Clinging to
Buddha's feet with one's last breath."
....
One Web user, Mr. Hebin reminds us that mice know when disaster approaches.
In English, it is said that rats will desert a sinking ship. It is not
difficult to deduce that the CCP will soon collapse while all of its high
officials flee the country in plain sight.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-3-11/26972.html



Michael Lawson March 13th 05 02:52 AM


"Max Power" wrote in message
...
Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save

money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion

and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the

Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget

for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of

life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about

$4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to explore

the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of the

fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are

preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone of

the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are

currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm


That's not 4.2 mil for the probes themselves, but to perform
monitoring and data analysis. The probes will continue
to transmit until their power is exhausted; it's a matter of
someone listening, examining the data, and storing it. That
is what would be shutdown. No one is going to fly out
to beyond the solar system and shut down the probes or
anything.

To be honest, I'm surprised that NASA was still devoting
money towards Voyager, since they had already succeeded
in their missions.

--Mike L.




Telamon March 13th 05 04:14 AM

In article ,
"Michael Lawson" wrote:

"Max Power" wrote in message
...
Voyager probes in funding crisis

Nasa's twin Voyager probes may have to close down in October to save

money,
the US space agency has said.

Launched in 1977, Voyagers One and Two are now more than 14 billion

and 11
billion km from Earth, respectively.

They are on their final mission to locate the boundary between the

Sun's
domain and interstellar space.

But the agency's Earth-Sun System division has had to cut its budget

for
next year from $74m to $53m, meaning that some projects will be

abandoned.

Although the Voyager probes are thought to have another 15 years of

life
left in them, they are very expensive to run, costing Nasa about

$4.2m a
year for operations and data analysis.

Other missions like Ulysses, which was launched in 1990 to explore

the Sun's
polar regions, might also have to be abandoned after the end of the

fiscal
year in October.

Although the decision is not yet final, some Nasa scientists are

preparing
themselves for the worst. Voyager project scientist Edward Stone of

the
California Institute of Technology told Nature magazine: "We are

currently
developing a plan for shutdown."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...re/4338245.stm


That's not 4.2 mil for the probes themselves, but to perform
monitoring and data analysis. The probes will continue
to transmit until their power is exhausted; it's a matter of
someone listening, examining the data, and storing it. That
is what would be shutdown. No one is going to fly out
to beyond the solar system and shut down the probes or
anything.

To be honest, I'm surprised that NASA was still devoting
money towards Voyager, since they had already succeeded
in their missions.


The science is never finished.

There is a new issue of the solar system passing into a more dense
galactic cloud of dust that can have serious implications for us on
earth. I want the funding to continue the examination of the solar
heliopause.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...&e=8&u=/space/
20050304/sc_space/hugespacecloudsmayhavecausedmassextinctions

The Mission Objective:
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/interstellar.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David March 13th 05 02:19 PM

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:27:46 -0600, "Li Changchun" chop

No one receives more handouts from the US government than the
businesses who finance the campaigns. Corporate welfare costs We the
People 3 times what all social entitlements cost.

Lobbyists write legislation and our prostitue ''lawmakers'' provide
the rubber stamp. If the People ever wake up, there will be blood in
the streets of Washington (aka Cracktown) ankle deep.


dxAce March 13th 05 02:23 PM



David wrote:

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:27:46 -0600, "Li Changchun" chop

No one receives more handouts from the US government than the
businesses who finance the campaigns. Corporate welfare costs We the
People 3 times what all social entitlements cost.

Lobbyists write legislation and our prostitue ''lawmakers'' provide
the rubber stamp. If the People ever wake up, there will be blood in
the streets of Washington (aka Cracktown) ankle deep.


Where do you live? 'Tardtown?

LMAO yet again at the 'tard.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Li Changchun March 13th 05 03:43 PM


"David" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:27:46 -0600, "Li Changchun" chop

No one receives more handouts from the US government than the
businesses who finance the campaigns. Corporate welfare costs We the
People 3 times what all social entitlements cost.


The business of America is "Business".

Lobbyists write legislation and our prostitue ''lawmakers'' provide
the rubber stamp. If the People ever wake up, there will be blood in
the streets of Washington (aka Cracktown) ankle deep.


Then vote for someone who doesn't or move to a place where only the
government
writes its own legislation - like P.R. China, N.Korea with free rubber
stamps.




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