On 19 Mar 2005 19:23:57 -0800, (Jim) wrote:

Joel Rubin wrote in message hlink.net...
1) When push comes to shove, shortwave frequently goes where the new
methods can't.

For example, the King of Nepal shut off 'net connections and FM local
relays of the Beeb but it is far harder to shut down shortwave.

Well said. Actually, the reason FM station (103 MHz) only shut off the Nepali
language broadcast (1500-1530 UTC). World service was/is available 24 hours a
day in Kathmandu. So was BBC TV on cable networks. Most common folks are
rediscovering shortwave once again to listen to Nepali language broadcast from
foreign stations. Streaming audio can be heard over Internet for those folks
who have access to net.

But BBC does need to shut down some transmitters. Nothing more annoying than
to tune the shortwave and when you think you found some exotic station, it
turns out to be BEEB.

Jim,
I thought of something more annoying: thinking you've found an exotic
station only to find out it's "Pastor" Pete Peters!

Howard

Jim wrote:

Joel Rubin wrote in message hlink.net...
1) When push comes to shove, shortwave frequently goes where the new
methods can't.

For example, the King of Nepal shut off 'net connections and FM local
relays of the Beeb but it is far harder to shut down shortwave.

Well said. Actually, the reason FM station (103 MHz) only shut off the Nepali
language broadcast (1500-1530 UTC). World service was/is available 24 hours a
day in Kathmandu. So was BBC TV on cable networks. Most common folks are
rediscovering shortwave once again to listen to Nepali language broadcast from
foreign stations. Streaming audio can be heard over Internet for those folks
who have access to net.

But BBC does need to shut down some transmitters. Nothing more annoying than
to tune the shortwave and when you think you found some exotic station, it
turns out to be BEEB.

Then you need to get a clue!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On 19 Mar 2005 19:23:57 -0800, (Jim) wrote:

Joel Rubin wrote in message hlink.net...
1) When push comes to shove, shortwave frequently goes where the new
methods can't.

For example, the King of Nepal shut off 'net connections and FM local
relays of the Beeb but it is far harder to shut down shortwave.

Well said. Actually, the reason FM station (103 MHz) only shut off the Nepali
language broadcast (1500-1530 UTC). World service was/is available 24 hours a
day in Kathmandu. So was BBC TV on cable networks. Most common folks are
rediscovering shortwave once again to listen to Nepali language broadcast from
foreign stations. Streaming audio can be heard over Internet for those folks
who have access to net.

But BBC does need to shut down some transmitters. Nothing more annoying than
to tune the shortwave and when you think you found some exotic station, it
turns out to be BEEB.
The BBC West Asia service is available Free to anyone in Nepal with a
$200 Worldspace receiver.

http://www.worldspace.com/programmin..._asiastar.html

"David" wrote in message
...
On 19 Mar 2005 19:23:57 -0800, (Jim) wrote:


The BBC West Asia service is available Free to anyone in Nepal with a
$200 Worldspace receiver.

Which is about twice the average monthly income of a Nepalese, I believe.

They share.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:45:25 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On 19 Mar 2005 19:23:57 -0800, (Jim) wrote:


The BBC West Asia service is available Free to anyone in Nepal with a
$200 Worldspace receiver.

Which is about twice the average monthly income of a Nepalese, I believe.

David wrote:

On 19 Mar 2005 19:23:57 -0800, (Jim) wrote:
......
The BBC West Asia service is available Free to anyone in Nepal
with a $200 Worldspace receiver.

http://www.worldspace.com/programmin..._asiastar.html

Except that in April Worldspace is going to
encryption and will require a monthly license, more
than the monthly income of most Nepalis etc.

Radio for the elites indeed.
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Dan Say wrote:

David wrote:

On 19 Mar 2005 19:23:57 -0800, (Jim) wrote:
......
The BBC West Asia service is available Free to anyone in Nepal
with a $200 Worldspace receiver.

http://www.worldspace.com/programmin..._asiastar.html

Except that in April Worldspace is going to
encryption and will require a monthly license, more
than the monthly income of most Nepalis etc.

Radio for the elites indeed.

Problem is, the elites are all the suits at the BBC care about. They've
even said that they don't want to be heard by the average person. So
they're going to satellite radio and FM relays in cities where the rich
and powerful congregate (there's one in San Francisco but not in
Sacramento; I doubt very much that Omaha will ever have any BBC
programming). Apparently the BBC is just interested in narrowcasting-the
selected targeting of the rich and powerful to the exclusion of
everybody else. It's a sad end to what was once the great news reporting
service in the world, the one that tried to tell the news honestly to as
many people as it could reach.


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Well, there are signs that shortwave listening is on the decline if you
look at the number of new hf receiver models being offered and the
numker of companies making them. The frequencies listed in
publications like MT seems to be smaller than before too.

The BBC like so many other national radio stations are looking for ways
to cut costs when budgets are lean and still get their message out.
Going to the internet, cable tv, satellite radio and local rebroadcast
of downlinked signals are obvious ways to do that.

Wish the excitement for shortwave broadcasts was like it was from the
1930's through the 1950's. Back then broadcasts over shortwave were
the fastest way to find out what was happening around the world. Many
of those furniture grade wood cased radios had both MW and shortwave
bands. Today there are numerous alternatives to shortwave radio and
the major boradcasters are incresingly turning to those media.



Mike Terry wrote:
"Short wave listening around the world is declining.

The downward trend is accelerating: the global short wave audience
for BBC
World Service has dropped from 122 million in 1996 to 97 million in
2003.

Like other international broadcasters, BBC World Service has been
adjusting
its short wave provisions in line with global demand changes.

Alternative ways to listen

At the same time BBC World Service has been investing in new delivery
methods, all with the improved audibility now preferred by audiences,
such
as FM, cable, satellite and online.

BBC World Service is committed to making the best use of the money it
receives from the government and has had considerable success in
attracting
audiences to these new methods of delivery; more than 50 million are
using
these and the numbers are growing fast.

Separately, online usage has grown from three million page
impressions every
month in late 1998 to almost 300 million by 2004, which is equivalent
to 18
million unique users.

Alongside in-depth news and information, programmes are available
streamed
both live and on demand at the convenience of the listener.

There are now more ways to listen to BBC World Service broadcasts
than ever
before. To check for availability in your region please click here."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us...ort_wave.shtml

How do they know how many are listening to their short wave
transmissions?

They've never asked me.

Have they asked anyone?

Joe

Joe Analssandrini wrote:

How do they know how many are listening to their short wave
transmissions?

They've never asked me.

Have they asked anyone?

Apparently so, as they say that they carry out extensive audience research, as
has the VOA.

However, they've never asked me either.

dxAce
Michigan
USA