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Satellite-Internet killing shortwave?
Watch out there,if y'all listen to them kooks on shortwave radio or any
other kind of radios or tv,Honus the colunus will call y'all a kook.I don't listen to those kooks.Sometimes if there is a guest speaker on the freak show, www.coasttocoastam.com such as Charles R. Smith www.softwar.net (and he is not a kook in my opinion) or someone else who is sane and makes sense,I will tune in for a while untill I drift off to sleep about an hour or so later.Sometimes I will set my RCA six hour digital recorder that I bought at a wal fart store a couple of years ago in front of a radio in my dining room and record the radio show and listen to it later on.I record the Stan Major radio talk shows too on 1180 WJNT.Stan Major is the first to have a radio talk show on AM. cuhulin |
wrote in message ... Watch out there,if y'all listen to them kooks on shortwave radio or any other kind of radios or tv,Honus the colunus will call y'all a kook. I'll only call you a kook if you believe them. don't listen to those kooks.Sometimes if there is a guest speaker on the freak show, www.coasttocoastam.com such as Charles R. Smith www.softwar.net (and he is not a kook in my opinion) or someone else who is sane and makes sense,I will tune in for a while You're a kook. |
Kooky,Kooky,lend me your comb.77 Sunset Strip.I used to watch that tv
series. cuhulin |
Honus wrote: wrote in message ... Watch out there,if y'all listen to them kooks on shortwave radio or any other kind of radios or tv,Honus the colunus will call y'all a kook. I'll only call you a kook if you believe them. don't listen to those kooks.Sometimes if there is a guest speaker on the freak show, www.coasttocoastam.com such as Charles R. Smith www.softwar.net (and he is not a kook in my opinion) or someone else who is sane and makes sense,I will tune in for a while You're a kook. Are you pickin on poor cahooglin again Honus? B.H. |
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"Brian Hill" wrote in message oups.com... Honus wrote: wrote in message ... Watch out there,if y'all listen to them kooks on shortwave radio or any other kind of radios or tv,Honus the colunus will call y'all a kook. I'll only call you a kook if you believe them. don't listen to those kooks.Sometimes if there is a guest speaker on the freak show, www.coasttocoastam.com such as Charles R. Smith www.softwar.net (and he is not a kook in my opinion) or someone else who is sane and makes sense,I will tune in for a while You're a kook. Are you pickin on poor cahooglin again Honus? I'll be the very first to admit that I'm weak. ;) Besides, -he- summoned me by invoking my name. |
David wrote: On 19 Mar 2005 12:16:02 -0800, wrote: Ren Hoek wrote: With XM and Sirius becoming popular,and with many broadcast being retransmitted via Internet, is shortwave doomed? Oh gosh, I'm surprised that no one has ever asked this before. Of course shortwave is doomed. So are newspapers, broadcast AM and FM, books, television, movie theaters, etc. etc. In fact, eventually satellite and internet will have to duke it out, and so at least one of them is doomed too. How about that? Steve You seem bitter. Typical 'tard boy response. Over and over again. dxAce Michigan USA |
Jim wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:24:59 GMT, Chris Hill wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:33:37 -0600, Ren Hoek wrote: With XM and Sirius becoming popular,and with many broadcast being retransmitted via Internet, is shortwave doomed? Xm ans sirius don't have much variety for news. Internet radio may someday replace shortwave, once somebody invents a decent tuner so you don't have to go hunt down and bookmark every station. As opposed to hunting them down on an analog tuner and then writing them down in a logbook, like we all did back in the day? Yeah, that *sure* was easier, wasn't it? Shortwave "Program Listening" is certainly doomed, but the people who like to twiddle dials and find some distant, low power station will always be around. There will just be fewer and fewer things to find, eventually. Especially if it takes one '5 minutes' to tune in! Still LMAO, dxAce Michigan USA |
Shortwave "Program Listening" is certainly doomed, but the people who
like to twiddle dials and find some distant, low power station will always be around. There will just be fewer and fewer things to find, eventually. Jim Fewer and fewer major broadcasters, but I don't see any reason to think there'll be fewer and fewer 'things' in general, especially if 'things' includes utilities, military comms, etc. Steve |
Summoned you? Like in the old horror movies? With a big powerful voice,
"I SUMMON THEE!!!" -- 73 and good DXing. Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A lot of radios and 100' of rusty wire! Zumbrota, Southern MN Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/ EMAIL- (Hide the $100 to reply!) |
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:24:59 GMT, Chris Hill
wrote: On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:33:37 -0600, Ren Hoek wrote: With XM and Sirius becoming popular,and with many broadcast being retransmitted via Internet, is shortwave doomed? Xm ans sirius don't have much variety for news. Internet radio may someday replace shortwave, once somebody invents a decent tuner so you don't have to go hunt down and bookmark every station. There are definitely fewer stations available on shortwave than there were in the mid '80's; maybe the missing ones are on the internet, but I don't plan on spending much time hunting for them. Sirius has tons of news from all the major International broadcasters + The CBC. |
Yeah, but Sirius is a subscription service. This means that, in order
to take advantage of their services, you have to give them *money* on a regular basis. Steve |
By the way, I downloaded a program guide off the Sirius website because
I wanted to see what their menu looked like. However, I assume that the program guide on their website is only a partial listing, because it sure didn't contain much of interest. Where can I get the full program guide? Steve |
-=jd=- wrote: On Sat 19 Mar 2005 07:09:46p, David wrote in message : On 19 Mar 2005 12:16:02 -0800, wrote: Ren Hoek wrote: With XM and Sirius becoming popular,and with many broadcast being retransmitted via Internet, is shortwave doomed? Oh gosh, I'm surprised that no one has ever asked this before. Of course shortwave is doomed. So are newspapers, broadcast AM and FM, books, television, movie theaters, etc. etc. In fact, eventually satellite and internet will have to duke it out, and so at least one of them is doomed too. How about that? Steve You seem bitter. I see your special powers of comprehension are keen as ever -- about as sharp as a donut... was sarcastic (not to berate the obvious, but you apprently need the assistance). If you want bitter, take a gander in the closest mirror. Rickets never ceases to entertain! lol! Never, ever.... that's the 'tard magic. dxAce Michigan USA |
The Thrill of the Chase,Hunting them Down,Logging them In.I am Guilty of
much Dial Twiddling too. cuhulin |
Yeah, at least in the near term. But further out, when everyone has
wris****ch size, secure encrypted digital satellite two-way receivers (hey, I can dream, can't I? :-o ), I don't imagine there will be too many utilities and Mossad numbers stations on "Shortwave" as we know it now! Jim I've often wondered about this, actually, especially in connection with the military. The great thing about HF is its simplicity. With very little in the way of equipment, you can send a message to someone halfway around the world. You don't need the ability to put satellites into orbit, the ability to run cables underneath the ocean, or any other highly complex systems or enormous pieces of 'infrastructrure'. I suppose we could "bet" that our access to or ability to utilize all of this infrastructure will never be compromised; but I, for one, would not want to make this bet. Steve |
A shirt pocket size homebrew transmitter,a key and eleven inches of wire
(11 inches of kitestring bikini on a beach babe,I can dream too,can't I?) thrown on a bush and talk to the World. www.dogpile.com The First Radio In The World There are many different kinds of radios.I have heard and read of folks who went to the dentist and then later on,they were picking up a radio station in one of their teeth.Nothing wrong with transistor radios,something had to come along before the transistors though.Crystals,Tubes and some Crystal and Tube Radios have been very well designed before.There is a certain kind of vacuum tube(s) for radios or whatever that is still being made in Russia.I once read about that vacuum tube a few years ago but I forget what kind of tube it is. cuhulin |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message oups.com... Summoned you? Like in the old horror movies? With a big powerful voice, "I SUMMON THEE!!!" Actually, I pictured cuhulin as having a much more effeminate voice. I also picture him as wearing a pink tutu and little else, but I try to avoid going there in my mind. It's not pretty. |
I am wearing my Dickies www.dickies.com work pants,a green short
sleeve shirt and socks and I don't have an effiminate voice.I should be outside painting on my house but it is raining here today.The Great Escape movie is on the Turner South tv channel now and more good War movies on tv after that.In your small little "mind",go ahead and make fun of Dickies Work Pants and show the World some more of what a fool you are! cuhulin |
Thats why most number stations today are run by countries that lack the
sophisticated defense communication sats. USA shut down its number station in 2003. Cuba for example has been running a number station that has changed little from when it was first heard in the 1950's. |
wrote in message ... I am wearing my Dickies www.dickies.com work pants,a green short sleeve shirt and socks and I don't have an effiminate voice. Oh, and I'm supposed to take your word for that? Bah. movies on tv after that.In your small little "mind",go ahead and make fun of Dickies Work Pants Dickies are okay, I guess...but nowhere near as good as Carhartt. http://usa.carhartt.com/ |
Hi,
Interesting question and interesting answer. Well, it's certainly changed since I got back into it in 1999 during an extremely serious back operation. I was going to be stuck in the hospital for over 2 weeks and RS had a DX-375 on sale for $70 (Canadian $$) so I bought it and listened to it in the hospital. Prior to that, it was 1972 when I last listened to shortwave. Needless to say I got hooked and had a DX-394B within a couple of months. If I were to have that same surgery today and were not a SW listener, I don't know if I'd get into it with as much enthusiasm as I did in 1999. I doubt if I'd have a Sat-800, DX-398 and a Grundig 400PE as I do at the moment. In a Sat-800 newsgroup, someone mentioned CB. It had never occurred to me that I could listen to CB with my Sat-800 so I decided to listen. I thought CB was totally dead, but much to my shock and surprise, it is still pretty active around here (Windsor, Ontario, Canada). So if CB is not dead, perhaps SWL will also survive.....at least for a while -:) Abb N wrote in message oups.com... Ren Hoek wrote: With XM and Sirius becoming popular,and with many broadcast being retransmitted via Internet, is shortwave doomed? Oh gosh, I'm surprised that no one has ever asked this before. Of course shortwave is doomed. So are newspapers, broadcast AM and FM, books, television, movie theaters, etc. etc. In fact, eventually satellite and internet will have to duke it out, and so at least one of them is doomed too. How about that? Steve |
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In article .com,
"Brian Hill" wrote: Summoned you? Like in the old horror movies? With a big powerful voice, "I SUMMON THEE!!!" (Telamon with one hand behind his back) "INTO THE LIGHT I SUMMON THEE!" Ah, there you are. SWAT! -- Telamon Ventura, California |
If you want the Air America schedule:
http://airamericaradio.com/ If you want the BBC World Service News schedule: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sc...s_weekly.shtml World Radio Network: http://wrn.org./listeners/schedules/...p?ScheduleID=2 etc. On 20 Mar 2005 07:32:09 -0800, wrote: By the way, I downloaded a program guide off the Sirius website because I wanted to see what their menu looked like. However, I assume that the program guide on their website is only a partial listing, because it sure didn't contain much of interest. Where can I get the full program guide? Steve |
AbbN wrote:
So if CB is not dead, perhaps SWL will also survive.....at least for a while -:) But CB SHOULD be dead. Way too many idiots with thousand watt amps abusing that part of the spectrum. How do think dxAce earned his name? It sure wasn't from using 4 watts output. mike |
Honus wrote:
I am wearing my Dickies www.dickies.com work pants,a green short sleeve shirt and socks and I don't have an effiminate voice. Oh, and I'm supposed to take your word for that? Bah. Forgive him. He put the curlers in too tight and his TuTus are riding too high. It makes it hard to lie convincingly. mike |
Jim wrote:
And it's been dying for decades. Young people these days don't see the thrill of listening to fading, static-filled, muffled-sounding gibberish on old fashioned, analog radios. These are people born into a digital world. If it's not crystal clear at the push of a button, they're not interested. And frankly, I'm losing interest also. The faster these broadcasters get on the net, the better AFAIC. People like you are ALWAYS saying that! g mike |
Jim wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:43 GMT, Telamon wrote: Jim is a Troll. I am? Really? Why, because my opinion differs from yours? Telamon calls everybody a troll. And dxAce calls everybody a tard. You'd think these people who apparently have no jobs would have something better to do, like some actual DXing. Yes that's decades! And it's been dying for decades. Young people these days don't see the thrill of listening to fading, static-filled, muffled-sounding gibberish on old fashioned, analog radios. These are people born into a digital world. If it's not crystal clear at the push of a button, they're not interested. And frankly, I'm losing interest also. The faster these broadcasters get on the net, the better AFAIC. Unfortunately, you're right. Back in the 60s, anybody could buy a TO and listen to the Cold War raging LIVE over the radio. Today the thrill is gone. Most of the countries central to the new wars either don't have SW services, don't broadcast in English and/or can't be heard in North America on a regular basis with the English they DO broadcast. The action is all on the internet. Try entering something like "jihad" into Google and see what you come up with. Case in point - I'm listening to Radio Australia right now. They're nowhere to be found on the air at this time where I live, but there it is, crystal clear on the net. This is called Progress, folks. Given the choice of *maybe* catching RA for a couple of hours in the morning (depending on propagation and all that crap), or having them available 24 hours a day on the net, well, it's an easy choice to make. And as more people get broadband connections and shed dialup, they'll be able to do the same. When the old farts (like me and, I suspect, you) disappear, that's basically going to be it. Hams and SWLs numbers are definitely falling. It would be madness for the BBC to maintain broadcasts to North America just so a few hundred people can post about it here and compare reception reports. I figure that it will take something big for the situation to change, like Bush suspending the Constitution after another big terrorist attack and clamping down on the net and other services like satellite and FM relays. Hey, the Nepalese never imagined that the king would cancel democracy and put the country under his direct rule. There have been rumors swirling for three years that after the next 9-11 martial law will be declared and the Constitution suspended indefinitely (they'll never say abolished, but in effect that's what will happen). All people's digital goodies will broadcast only rap music and government propaganda, sort of like Radio Sawa but in English. Can you imagine the news becoming just the latest "victories in the war to defend freedom", sort of like Voice of Korea, American style? In that case, the few who still have shortwave radios will become necessary links to reality. Here's my RA reception report SINPO: 5,5,5,5,5! It will be the same an hour from now, next week and next year. Not counting buffering due to network overload which can cut off the signal abruptly and completely for a few seconds at a time, and signal degradation which can make the signal sound like ball bearings rattling around in a soup can. Yes, SW has fades and interference, but right now the internet isn't much better, especially if you only have dialup. I wish people would stop being so dazzled by technology and realize that no one method of listening is superior or perfect. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article .com, "Brian Hill" wrote: Summoned you? Like in the old horror movies? With a big powerful voice, "I SUMMON THEE!!!" (Telamon with one hand behind his back) "INTO THE LIGHT I SUMMON THEE!" Ah, there you are. SWAT! I'm not sure. Did I just get...spanked? g The thought makes me, well...uncomfortable. |
In article , running dogg wrote:
Jim wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:43 GMT, Telamon wrote: Jim is a Troll. I am? Really? Why, because my opinion differs from yours? No because it is a Troll. You will catch on eventually. Telamon calls everybody a troll. I do not call everybody a Troll. And dxAce calls everybody a tard. That's not true either. You'd think these people who apparently have no jobs would have something better to do, like some actual DXing. What are you inferring? I have a job. Don't you get anything right? Yes that's decades! And it's been dying for decades. Snip It changes like everything else does except for the supply of people that say it's dying. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
m II wrote: AbbN wrote: So if CB is not dead, perhaps SWL will also survive.....at least for a while -:) But CB SHOULD be dead. Way too many idiots with thousand watt amps abusing that part of the spectrum. How do think dxAce earned his name? It sure wasn't from using 4 watts output. LMAO at the 'tard boy yet again! dxAce Michigan USA |
running dogg wrote: Jim wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:43 GMT, Telamon wrote: Jim is a Troll. I am? Really? Why, because my opinion differs from yours? Telamon calls everybody a troll. And dxAce calls everybody a tard. You'd think these people who apparently have no jobs would have something better to do, like some actual DXing. DX'ing? I've done plenty of DX'ing. Got the QSL's too. How about you? dxAce Michgan USA |
"AbbN" wrote in message ... Hi, Interesting question and interesting answer. Well, it's certainly changed since I got back into it in 1999 during an extremely serious back operation. I was going to be stuck in the hospital for over 2 weeks and RS had a DX-375 on sale for $70 (Canadian $$) so I bought it and listened to it in the hospital. Prior to that, it was 1972 when I last listened to shortwave. Needless to say I got hooked and had a DX-394B within a couple of months. If I were to have that same surgery today and were not a SW listener, I don't know if I'd get into it with as much enthusiasm as I did in 1999. I doubt if I'd have a Sat-800, DX-398 and a Grundig 400PE as I do at the moment. In a Sat-800 newsgroup, someone mentioned CB. It had never occurred to me that I could listen to CB with my Sat-800 so I decided to listen. I thought CB was totally dead, but much to my shock and surprise, it is still pretty active around here (Windsor, Ontario, Canada). So if CB is not dead, perhaps SWL will also survive.....at least for a while -:) CB isn't dead because some big reasons: 1) Truckers keep using it religiously 2) You don't have to pay per month to use it 3) You don't need a license (although some folks used to have them, a long time ago) 4) The equipment can be easily found (used or new) 5) Nothing has really replaced it's niche; sure, you can use a cell phone or satellite radio or the Net, but for an old fashioned "party line" type of experience, nothing has replaced it yet. --Mike L. |
"Jim" wrote in message ... On 20 Mar 2005 06:41:33 -0800, wrote: Fewer and fewer major broadcasters, but I don't see any reason to think there'll be fewer and fewer 'things' in general, especially if 'things' includes utilities, military comms, etc. Yeah, at least in the near term. But further out, when everyone has wris****ch size, secure encrypted digital satellite two-way receivers (hey, I can dream, can't I? :-o ), I don't imagine there will be too many utilities and Mossad numbers stations on "Shortwave" as we know it now! And there will be Cingular and Verizon wanting a buck a pop for each message sent and for each moment of usage. Once the kids today grow up and discover that a cell phone doesn't mean freedom but the ability for someone at work to call you 24x7, they might not like those blackberrys and cells so much. --Mike L. |
dxAce wrote: running dogg wrote: Jim wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:43 GMT, Telamon wrote: Jim is a Troll. I am? Really? Why, because my opinion differs from yours? Telamon calls everybody a troll. And dxAce calls everybody a tard. You'd think these people who apparently have no jobs would have something better to do, like some actual DXing. DX'ing? I've done plenty of DX'ing. Got the QSL's too. How about you? Well, 'tard boy... I'm still waiting for your smartass reply. Is this something you can't answer? dxAce Michigan USA |
dxAce wrote:
dxAce wrote: running dogg wrote: Jim wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:43 GMT, Telamon wrote: Jim is a Troll. I am? Really? Why, because my opinion differs from yours? Telamon calls everybody a troll. And dxAce calls everybody a tard. You'd think these people who apparently have no jobs would have something better to do, like some actual DXing. DX'ing? I've done plenty of DX'ing. Got the QSL's too. How about you? Well, 'tard boy... I'm still waiting for your smartass reply. Is this something you can't answer? Responding to yourself again? Talk about ego. And to answer your question...I've done plenty of DXing, but I never bothered to send for QSLs. I was pretty poor as a kid and my parents balked at paying postage to Moscow. So I just wrote down what I heard. I don't know how many countries I've actually heard, since many of my logs are long gone. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
running dogg wrote: dxAce wrote: dxAce wrote: running dogg wrote: Jim wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:43 GMT, Telamon wrote: Jim is a Troll. I am? Really? Why, because my opinion differs from yours? Telamon calls everybody a troll. And dxAce calls everybody a tard. You'd think these people who apparently have no jobs would have something better to do, like some actual DXing. DX'ing? I've done plenty of DX'ing. Got the QSL's too. How about you? Well, 'tard boy... I'm still waiting for your smartass reply. Is this something you can't answer? Responding to yourself again? Talk about ego. And to answer your question...I've done plenty of DXing, but I never bothered to send for QSLs. I was pretty poor as a kid and my parents balked at paying postage to Moscow. So I just wrote down what I heard. I don't know how many countries I've actually heard, since many of my logs are long gone. Or non-existent... I get the picture. Plead poverty... works every time. dxAce Michigan USA |
running dogg wrote: dxAce wrote: dxAce wrote: running dogg wrote: Jim wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:43:43 GMT, Telamon wrote: Jim is a Troll. I am? Really? Why, because my opinion differs from yours? Telamon calls everybody a troll. And dxAce calls everybody a tard. You'd think these people who apparently have no jobs would have something better to do, like some actual DXing. DX'ing? I've done plenty of DX'ing. Got the QSL's too. How about you? Well, 'tard boy... I'm still waiting for your smartass reply. Is this something you can't answer? Responding to yourself again? Talk about ego. Nope.. if you had any sense you'd see I was simply asking you a question, but since you know little about anything, including shortwave you can't comprehend that. Please feel free to return here when you indeed get a clue. dxAce Michigan USA |
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