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I can't believe this Terri Schiavo thing.
As a father I would be there killing some SOB the get my daughter feed. Has America sunk to this point where we starve a person the death????? This will go down as one of the "Blackest Things in American History" For the first time in my life I am going to write letters to the papers of the US and maybe the world. This is un-real. Burr |
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:51:56 GMT, "Burr" wrote:
I can't believe this Terri Schiavo thing. As a father I would be there killing some SOB the get my daughter feed. Has America sunk to this point where we starve a person the death????? This will go down as one of the "Blackest Things in American History" For the first time in my life I am going to write letters to the papers of the US and maybe the world. This is un-real. Burr you are right! |
I Agree with you on that,Burr.I have been following the news about Terri
since day one at www.worldnetdaily.com and other news sites.It is a terrible tragedy of what is happening to that poor defensless woman.Walt Kelly's cartoon character Pogo Possum always said it best.We Have Met The Enemy And He Is Us. cuhulin |
"Burr" wrote in message news:woI0e.23033$mq2.17881@trnddc08... I can't believe this Terri Schiavo thing. As a father I would be there killing some SOB the get my daughter feed. Has America sunk to this point where we starve a person the death????? This will go down as one of the "Blackest Things in American History" For the first time in my life I am going to write letters to the papers of the US and maybe the world. This is un-real. Burr We treat dogs better. Hell! we put murderers to death more humanely. B.H. |
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:51:56 GMT, "Burr" wrote: I can't believe this Terri Schiavo thing. As a father I would be there killing some SOB the get my daughter feed. Except that it's not the father's decision. The husband is honoring his wife's wish to not be kept alive. Prove it. There's nothing in writing - just the words of her husband (who, maybe not coincidentally, has denied her rehabilitation, and stands to gain a million dollars at her death). Prove it. |
"Al Patrick" wrote in message ... I'm impressed, Al. I've never seen you pack so much nonsense into such a small post. You might not want to go to this link. It pretty much destroys that post of yours. http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html |
"Honus" wrote: Prove it. It's already proven. You *do* have access to the internet, don't you? |
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:51:56 GMT, "Burr" wrote:
I can't believe this Terri Schiavo thing. As a father I would be there killing some SOB the get my daughter feed. Has America sunk to this point where we starve a person the death????? This will go down as one of the "Blackest Things in American History" For the first time in my life I am going to write letters to the papers of the US and maybe the world. This is un-real. Burr Relativity to shortwave? I see none. Please don't feed the trolls. Thanks Al in CNMI ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ... "Honus" wrote: Prove it. It's already proven. You *do* have access to the internet, don't you? As a matter of fact I do, and I can't find any credible source that says he'll get a million dollars when she dies. I can find more misinformation and rumor than you can shake a stick at, though. Here's what you said (and subsequently snipped): Prove it. There's nothing in writing - just the words of her husband (who, maybe not coincidentally, has denied her rehabilitation, and stands to gain a million dollars at her death). I can't find a single credible source that says he'll inherit any cash, much less the specific sum of one million dollars. I -can- provide cites like this one, though. It's from WSTV in Florida, and is dated 3/16/2005. From http://www1.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/C71187/: quote "George Felos, Schiavo's lawyer, said his client never received or had any control over a $1 million medical malpractice award. Felos said the money is gone, used for her medical and guardianship expenses. A hospice program is caring for her now. "It's not about the money," said Schiavo, who said he will not receive any life insurance money upon Terri's death. "This is about Terry. It's not about the Schindlers, it's not about the legislators, it's not about me, it's about what Terry Schiavo wanted." end quote I think that the facts of the matter have been spread around and distorted in the telling to the point where they're almost beyond recognition. If you have a credible source that shows that he will in fact receive life insurance money, I'm all ears. Incidentally, I find this quote from the same source to be noteworthy: quote "Schiavo, now a father in another relationship, said he would not give guardianship to the Schindlers because of her father's earlier testimony. "Mr. Schindler testified in court ... to keep Terri alive he would cut her arms and legs off and put her on a ventilator just to keep her alive. So why would I give her to a man that would do that to you?" Schiavo said." end quote I've also been all over http://www.terrisfight.net/ which is maintained by The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation in conjunction with her family, and I can't find anything there about Schiavo collecting on a life insurance policy. That may be significant, or it may not be. |
"-=jd=-" wrote in
: Euthanasia via the administration of excess amounts of pain medications has been going on for some time. When the patient's family is given control over the medication, it is out of the Doctor's hands how the medication is administered. A terminal patient will not likely elicit an autopsy, since the pending death of the patient is known to the attending Doctor. The authorities, seeing a deceased terminal patient, without any obvious external wounds, are not likely to pry further. (i.e. no knives, gun shots, ropes, etc.) My concern lies with recent proclamations about limiting health care costs, pursuant to Medicare. One startling statement said that it will be up to the doctors to determine when the end of life occurs. To most people this would mean a terminal patient being mercifully euthanized by a doctor, but I fear that the application will become widespread, euthanizing patients that are handicapped and of no use to society, as their long term continued care will be more of a burden to the Medicare system (and other health care programs) then the last stages of a terminal patient. Then too will arise the situation where people diagnosed with a terminal disorder, having the options of life sustaining therapies, so that they may have an additional 6 months or more of life, will be told that these therapies are too much of a burden to society, and that they "must" be shuffled of this mortal coil prematurely. My next door neighbor has had cancer for years now, cancers in the brain, organs, and so forth. Known as CUPS (Cancer of Unknown Primary Source), he has so far been successful in fighting this terrible disease, being there as his children grow, and he undergoes home Chemotherapy. One cannot make rash judgments concerning when "end of life" has been reached. Terry Schiavo's case is a blemish on the soul of the American people. We are now performing abortions on adults, something that I fear is going to become increasingly common. As another said in this post, it would be illegal to starve an animal to death. The U.S. Supreme (sic) Court, refusing to hear Terry's case, has heard and ruled on many bizarre cases over the years. One of the cases involved an admitted murdered, also a intravenous drug user over the years. Since he was to be executed by lethal injection and his many years of intravenous drug use had marred his veins, he may suffer as the I.V. was being inserted for his execution, and, if they missed the vein and administered the lethal injection anyway, he "may" suffer chest pain. The Supreme Court agreed with him and ordered a re-evaluation of his sentence. Go Figure. Dr. Artaud Understand, when it comes to an innocent (as in the Schaivo case), I would always choose life over death until there was no other option remaining. But in those cases where they are bound and determined to kill them -- for Heaven's sake, don't starve them to death for weeks; administer a lethal dose of something and get it over with as quickly as possible! -=jd=- |
wrote in message oups.com... Except that it's not the father's decision. The husband is honoring his wife's wish to not be kept alive. ...... According to *him*....As far as I know, there was never anything in writing...It's all hearsay. There was nothing in writing, but I certainly wouldn't say that it's all hearsay. The whole issue was dealt with in court in court, and it -wasn't- just her husband who said that she felt that way. For anyone who's interested, here's a link to the judge's order. http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/trialctorder02-00.pdf Personally, I think everyone in this thread ought to read this. It's got some important information in it. |
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I agree with honoring her wishes. I just can't believe how we let
ourselves suffer. Why don't we inject people so they don't have too go through hell. Well, a lethal injection of something would constitute euthanasia, which will get you prosecuted a la Jack Kevorkian. If Terri is experiencing discomfort in this, it is of courser legal for her doctors to give her medication to minimize that discomfort....and I expect they're doing that. Steve |
I Believe that michael schiavo *******!!! did all of that damage to
Terri and the Crooked *******s!!!! in politics (ALL politicians are Crooked) are useing her as a political football.Whenever she dies,she will be in a much better place and they can't do anything to her anymore.The whole damn thing that is going on now is Disgracefull. cuhulin |
Sheesh,how many people get married and soon after they get married are
talking about a living will? cuhulin |
wrote in message ... Sheesh,how many people get married and soon after they get married are talking about a living will? And the problem with that is...? |
wrote in message ... I Believe that michael schiavo *******!!! did all of that damage to Terri Of course you do, in spite all of those facts to the contrary. If you and Al Patrick believed otherwise, my world would be turned upside-down. and the Crooked *******s!!!! in politics (ALL politicians are Crooked) are useing her as a political football. Absolutely right on. anymore.The whole damn thing that is going on now is Disgracefull. Absolutely right on. Good for you, cuhulin. |
"Honus" wrote in message news:v8W0e.24543$oa6.1583@trnddc07... wrote in message ... Sheesh,how many people get married and soon after they get married are talking about a living will? And the problem with that is...? The problem is you always do the Prenup before the Will ;) B.H. |
Honus the Colun,you have a 100 Percent brain Deficiency.You just don't
get it! Terri has many bones in different places of her body that were broken and there were signs of strangulation around her neck too.You go to www.worldnetdaily.com and read all of those articles there and I believe somewhere in one of those articles,you will find photos of the X-Ray's that were taken of her.I have seen those X-Ray's of her before on the internet a few years ago,either at World Net Daily or somewhere else on the internet.Those kinds of things could not have happened to her if she had an eating disorder and fell on that floor.One or two broken bones perhaps,but not that many.About a year ago I slipped off of my ladder in my back yard and fractured,only fractured, the two big bones in my left wrist and I weigh about 280 pounds. cuhulin |
Terri's Bone Scan. The article is in the middle section at
www.rense.com So,who was beating up on her over the years? I say it was michael schiavo. cuhulin |
"Honus" wrote in message news:mfN0e.23742$oa6.19911@trnddc07... "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ... "Honus" wrote: Prove it. It's already proven. You *do* have access to the internet, don't you? As a matter of fact I do, and I can't find any credible source that says he'll get a million dollars when she dies. I can find more misinformation and rumor than you can shake a stick at, though. Here's what you said (and subsequently snipped): Prove it. There's nothing in writing - just the words of her husband (who, maybe not coincidentally, has denied her rehabilitation, and stands to gain a million dollars at her death). I can't find a single credible source that says he'll inherit any cash, much less the specific sum of one million dollars. I -can- provide cites like this one, though. It's from WSTV in Florida, and is dated 3/16/2005. From http://www1.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/C71187/: quote "George Felos, Schiavo's lawyer, said his client never received or had any control over a $1 million medical malpractice award. Felos said the money is gone, used for her medical and guardianship expenses. A hospice program is caring for her now. "It's not about the money," said Schiavo, who said he will not receive any life insurance money upon Terri's death. "This is about Terry. It's not about the Schindlers, it's not about the legislators, it's not about me, it's about what Terry Schiavo wanted." end quote I think that the facts of the matter have been spread around and distorted in the telling to the point where they're almost beyond recognition. If you have a credible source that shows that he will in fact receive life insurance money, I'm all ears. Incidentally, I find this quote from the same source to be noteworthy: quote "Schiavo, now a father in another relationship, said he would not give guardianship to the Schindlers because of her father's earlier testimony. "Mr. Schindler testified in court ... to keep Terri alive he would cut her arms and legs off and put her on a ventilator just to keep her alive. So why would I give her to a man that would do that to you?" Schiavo said." end quote I've also been all over http://www.terrisfight.net/ which is maintained by The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation in conjunction with her family, and I can't find anything there about Schiavo collecting on a life insurance policy. That may be significant, or it may not be. Okay, I've gotcha. You make a straw-man, moving-target issue of "credibility," so you get to dodge any idea of proof, believability, and reason. I understand now, and you've made it clear you won't be persuaded. Fair 'nuff. 73, Steve |
Honus wrote:
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ... Prove it. There's nothing in writing - just the words of her husband (who, maybe not coincidentally, has denied her rehabilitation, and stands to gain a million dollars at her death). Prove it. It's already been proved, as no one has come up with a "living will" or any other document signed by Terri Schiavo that expresses her wishes for such a situation. It isn't our fault you are so stupid. |
"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ... "Honus" wrote in message news:mfN0e.23742$oa6.19911@trnddc07... "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ... "Honus" wrote: Prove it. It's already proven. You *do* have access to the internet, don't you? As a matter of fact I do, and I can't find any credible source that says he'll get a million dollars when she dies. I can find more misinformation and rumor than you can shake a stick at, though. Here's what you said (and subsequently snipped): Prove it. There's nothing in writing - just the words of her husband (who, maybe not coincidentally, has denied her rehabilitation, and stands to gain a million dollars at her death). I can't find a single credible source that says he'll inherit any cash, much less the specific sum of one million dollars. I -can- provide cites like this one, though. It's from WSTV in Florida, and is dated 3/16/2005. From http://www1.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/C71187/: quote "George Felos, Schiavo's lawyer, said his client never received or had any control over a $1 million medical malpractice award. Felos said the money is gone, used for her medical and guardianship expenses. A hospice program is caring for her now. "It's not about the money," said Schiavo, who said he will not receive any life insurance money upon Terri's death. "This is about Terry. It's not about the Schindlers, it's not about the legislators, it's not about me, it's about what Terry Schiavo wanted." end quote I think that the facts of the matter have been spread around and distorted in the telling to the point where they're almost beyond recognition. If you have a credible source that shows that he will in fact receive life insurance money, I'm all ears. Incidentally, I find this quote from the same source to be noteworthy: quote "Schiavo, now a father in another relationship, said he would not give guardianship to the Schindlers because of her father's earlier testimony. "Mr. Schindler testified in court ... to keep Terri alive he would cut her arms and legs off and put her on a ventilator just to keep her alive. So why would I give her to a man that would do that to you?" Schiavo said." end quote I've also been all over http://www.terrisfight.net/ which is maintained by The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation in conjunction with her family, and I can't find anything there about Schiavo collecting on a life insurance policy. That may be significant, or it may not be. Okay, I've gotcha. You make a straw-man, moving-target issue of "credibility," so you get to dodge any idea of proof, believability, and reason. I understand now, and you've made it clear you won't be persuaded. Fair 'nuff. What are you babbling about? I've provided sources of info, and you've provided nothing but empty claims. If you want to claim, as cuhulin seems to feel, that sites like rense.com (where they claim the Twin Towers were brought down with explosives) are credible and deserve due consideration, feel free. In the meantime, I'll feel free to point out that you've been challenged to prove a statement that you made, or at the very least provide a modicum of support for it, and that you haven't been able to do so. I've provided some support for -my- position, and even explained to you that I tried but failed to find support for yours. Quit whining, and take your turn. If you have some evidence, trot it out. |
"Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Honus wrote: "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message ... Prove it. There's nothing in writing - just the words of her husband (who, maybe not coincidentally, has denied her rehabilitation, and stands to gain a million dollars at her death). Prove it. It's already been proved, as no one has come up with a "living will" or any other document signed by Terri Schiavo that expresses her wishes for such a situation. It isn't our fault you are so stupid. We're talking about the million dollars claim, and you'd know that if you'd followed the entire thread. So, am I stupid, or did you make a mistake? |
wrote in message ... Terri's Bone Scan. The article is in the middle section at www.rense.com So,who was beating up on her over the years? I say it was michael schiavo. If it's on rense.com, it's almost -certainly- bull****. |
www.worldnetdaily.com Man arrested for $250,000 bounty on michael
schiavo,$50,000 bounty on judge greer. Well,what can I say? cuhulin |
wrote in message ... Honus the Colun,you have a 100 Percent brain Deficiency.You just don't get it! Terri has many bones in different places of her body that were broken and there were signs of strangulation around her neck too.You go to www.worldnetdaily.com and read all of those articles there and I believe somewhere in one of those articles,you will find photos of the X-Ray's that were taken of her. If you had any sense whatsoever, you'd stay away from sites like the ones you've been providing today. On top of that, have you been reading anything I've been posting? If there had been evidence of abuse like that at the time of her collapes, it most assuredly would have come up at the malpractice trial which in the end went in The Schiavo's favor. The only places where I've heard allegations of abuse have been at...well, places like those that you're providing links to. I'd like to see a primary source to support these allegations, and others that have been made. I'm sure sorry that requirement of mine ****es off so many people, but that's just the way it is. My contention is that the court based its findings on facts, not rumors circulating in fundamentalist blogs. Why I'm telling -you- that is beyond me. I have seen those X-Ray's of her before on the internet a few years ago,either at World Net Daily or somewhere else on the internet.Those kinds of things could not have happened to her if she had an eating disorder and fell on that floor.One or two broken bones perhaps,but not that many.About a year ago I slipped off of my ladder in my back yard and fractured,only fractured, the two big bones in my left wrist and I weigh about 280 pounds. So your fat saved you. Your point? eg I know a guy, lighter than you, that fell off a ladder as well...now someone wipes his mouth for him. There -are- a few variables involved, you know. Why I'm telling -you- that is beyond me. |
"Jim" wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:11:11 -0500, Al Patrick wrote: Jim wrote: Her parents told him to KEEP THE MONEY just let us have our girl back. Someone else even offered to pay the greedy SOB a couple more million just to walk out and let Terri's parents have her! Exactly! He's not after money, is he! He's honoring her wish. Doesn't sound like a "greedy SOB" to me! He's after *money* but he's also, even more so, interested in *covering his crimes* ! There is no money. It was awarded many years ago. It's long been spent on her care. Don't try confusing the issue with facts. It'll get you nowhere. |
I have said before rense.com and coasttocoastam are kook sites and Jeff
Rense and Art Bell and George Noory are full blown kooks and they even look like full blown kooks too.I don't believe in that kook stuff and and that conspiracy ****.I don't read that kook conspiracy stuff either.But,sometimes there is an article or two at those kook sites that are worth reading.Now,y'all get back to listening to Brother Stair and Paster Pecker on your shortwave radio.I don't listen to kook crap on my radio.The Big Trail movie is on tv now. cuhulin |
You go tell that MD,Walker in Florida it's bull**** then.
cuhulin |
You are full of ****!!!! Honus.GET ****ED!!!!! I will not waste my time
with you again! cuhulin |
wrote in message ... I have said before rense.com and coasttocoastam are kook sites and Jeff Rense and Art Bell and George Noory are full blown kooks and they even Credit where credit's due...I do remember you saying that about all of those people/sites except for rense.com, and you may have said that about them as well. look like full blown kooks too.I don't believe in that kook stuff and and that conspiracy ****.I don't read that kook conspiracy stuff Oh yes you do. |
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:51:56 GMT, "Burr" wrote:
I can't believe this Terri Schiavo thing. As a father I would be there killing some SOB the get my daughter feed. Has America sunk to this point where we starve a person the death????? This will go down as one of the "Blackest Things in American History" For the first time in my life I am going to write letters to the papers of the US and maybe the world. This is un-real. Burr You need to spend some time in a nursing-home. BE |
wrote in message ... You go tell that MD,Walker in Florida it's bull**** then. I rather think he knows. |
wrote in message ... You are full of ****!!!! Honus.GET ****ED!!!!! Sweet! Thanks! I'm sure hoping to. |
Gunfight at the O.K. Corrall.Almost so anyway.Latest news concerning
Terri at www.worldnetdaily.com It might wind up being a showdown after all.Actually though,in real History,the real Gunfight at the O.K.Corrall did not take place at the O.K.Corrall.It took place in a vacant lot behind a photographers shop. cuhulin |
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