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R8 from a smokers shack
A local guy has an immaculate R8
for private sale for about 400 (US) The only downside is, he is a smoker and the R8 has been exposed to 8 or so years of cigarettes. He claims to have replaced the encoder -- are there any other issues that I should know about? Colin - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ www.coffeecrew.com Colin Newell's Daily Grind rnewell AT vcn DOT bc DOT ca \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ |
Dear Colin,
If the seller is local to you, you can go over to his house and try the radio for yourself. If the radio was well-taken-care-of, there should be no problems. Cigarette smoke does not cause any real damage to radios. The tobacco odor will dissipate over several weeks and should be totally gone in a year or less. If you're really concerned about the odor, leave the radio outside for a few hours each day (in nice weather only!). That should accelerate the dissipation of the odor. Best, Joe |
Check the functioning of all keys, switches and controls. Unless you
can put up with the smell, I would keep looking. I turned an otherwise immaculate Yaesu 7700 back because it reeked of stale cigarette smoke. 8 years of exposure to cigarette smoke is a long time, and it gets into every nook and cranny. |
Cigarette/pipe/cigar smoke wont have enough affect on the radio to worry
about.Computers are affected much differently by smoke though.It can and sometimes does do a lot of damage to computers.It is best to not smoke (better still to not smoke at all,I smoke like a choo choo train) near computers.At least buy/use one of those air cleaners that helps to trap smoke particles. cuhulin |
There's a very good chance it will develop lung cancer down the road!
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There's a lot more to what cigarette smoke does to a receiver than smell.
It gets into every control, key and contact. I bought an NRD-525 that must have been exposed to smoke. Several of the keys won't make contact, all the variable resistors are noisy and it's just about unusable. About the only thing that can be done is to replace the bad resistors and switches and clean all the contacts. Not a small job. John Reed Dear Colin, If the seller is local to you, you can go over to his house and try the radio for yourself. If the radio was well-taken-care-of, there should be no problems. Cigarette smoke does not cause any real damage to radios. The tobacco odor will dissipate over several weeks and should be totally gone in a year or less. If you're really concerned about the odor, leave the radio outside for a few hours each day (in nice weather only!). That should accelerate the dissipation of the odor. Best, Joe |
I guess I never though cigarrette smoke could have much affect on
radios.But after looking in my ash tray (small sardine can,the best kind of ash trays,they won't break and they last forever) at the ashes in there and the smoke,I have changed my mind.I wouldn't want to pour a lot of smoke particles or ashes in my radios and my computers.I am going to have to do something about my smoking or lessen the chances of cigarette smoke getting into my good radios and computers somehow.Some stores sell a type of cigarette ashtray's that has a charcoal filter and a little battery powered fan in the base of the ashtrays.The fan pulls the smoke down through and out of the charcoal filter.If I can't find an ashtray like that,I am going to make one myself. cuhulin |
I have an HQ180 that was owned by an extremely heavy smoker. The entire radio was yellow/brown from smoke. Clean up was not all that bad and it has had no problems since I have owned it which is now going on 13 years. "John Reed" wrote in message ... There's a lot more to what cigarette smoke does to a receiver than smell. It gets into every control, key and contact. I bought an NRD-525 that must have been exposed to smoke. Several of the keys won't make contact, all the variable resistors are noisy and it's just about unusable. About the only thing that can be done is to replace the bad resistors and switches and clean all the contacts. Not a small job. John Reed Dear Colin, If the seller is local to you, you can go over to his house and try the radio for yourself. If the radio was well-taken-care-of, there should be no problems. Cigarette smoke does not cause any real damage to radios. The tobacco odor will dissipate over several weeks and should be totally gone in a year or less. If you're really concerned about the odor, leave the radio outside for a few hours each day (in nice weather only!). That should accelerate the dissipation of the odor. Best, Joe |
"John Reed" wrote in message ... There's a lot more to what cigarette smoke does to a receiver than smell. It gets into every control, key and contact. I bought an NRD-525 that must have been exposed to smoke. Several of the keys won't make contact, all the variable resistors are noisy and it's just about unusable. About the only thing that can be done is to replace the bad resistors and switches and clean all the contacts. Not a small job. John Reed I've cleaned out computers owned by smokers. What a nasty mess! Just think what goes into the lungs : ( DeWayne Dear Colin, If the seller is local to you, you can go over to his house and try the radio for yourself. If the radio was well-taken-care-of, there should be no problems. Cigarette smoke does not cause any real damage to radios. The tobacco odor will dissipate over several weeks and should be totally gone in a year or less. If you're really concerned about the odor, leave the radio outside for a few hours each day (in nice weather only!). That should accelerate the dissipation of the odor. Best, Joe |
wrote in message ... I guess I never though cigarrette smoke could have much affect on radios.But after looking in my ash tray (small sardine can,the best kind of ash trays,they won't break and they last forever) at the ashes in there and the smoke,I have changed my mind.I wouldn't want to pour a lot of smoke particles or ashes in my radios and my computers.I am going to have to do something about my smoking or lessen the chances of cigarette smoke getting into my good radios and computers somehow.Some stores sell a type of cigarette ashtray's that has a charcoal filter and a little battery powered fan in the base of the ashtrays.The fan pulls the smoke down through and out of the charcoal filter.If I can't find an ashtray like that,I am going to make one myself. cuhulin I bought a Kenwood TS440s a few years ago. I forgot to ask if he was a smoker. The smell was absolutely sickening. I cleaned it up and still could smell it. PU! DeWayne |
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Smoke pours out of me, like out of some hellish chimney. It swirls
around here, and sticks to everything. Electronics are affected. You'll notice it mainly in scratchy controls. Darren http://hometown.aol.com/darren1965co...e/profile.html |
Polly wrote: wrote: I did a www.dogpile.com for,Charcoal Filter Ash Trays I think somewhere among my piles and piles of junk stacked on top of piles and piles (literally) of junk,I do own a charcoal filter ash tray that has a little fan and charcoal filter in the base of it,It uses either one C cell battery or one D cell battery.I remember I once tried it out and the fan makes quite a bit of noise and I decided not to use it so I put it back in the box and I stashed it somewhere.By the time I found it,I would have a long grey beard that would stretch from here to Montana www.montanasnews.com and back.I bought it at a Goodwill thrift store years ago.I am going to the Goodwill thrift store and the foodstore and the Home Depot store this afternoon,but first I will stop off at Metrocenter Mall www.metromalljackson.com just across Highway 80 from me and see if there is a store over there that sells an ash tray like that.I think there is a fancy tobacco store at Northpark Mall (that mall has a website,but I don't remember the website) wayyyyyy up North just across County Line Road from Jackson in Ridgeland and they might sell those kinds of ash trays. cuhulin Well, it appears I was right in my initial impression of you CooKooLin. You live in a jigaboo neighborhood and you live by jigaboo standards. I would bet that your filthy roach infested hovel is as close to being condemned as some of those jigaboo shacks that surround you. You are white trash PERIOD! Jigaboo? dxAce Michigan USA |
D. Martin wrote:
Smoke pours out of me, like out of some hellish chimney. It swirls around here, and sticks to everything. I hope an equal amount goes in to represent the output! colin - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ espresso.ts.uvic.ca receiver reviews - active antennas \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ |
John S. wrote:
Check the functioning of all keys, switches and controls. Unless you can put up with the smell, I would keep looking. I turned an otherwise immaculate Yaesu 7700 back because it reeked of stale cigarette smoke. He has dropped the price from about 480(CanuckBux) (425US) to about 400(CanuckBux) -$350 US which is a great deal.. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ www.coffeecrew.com Colin Newell's Daily Grind rnewell AT vcn DOT bc DOT ca \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ |
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There's a very good chance it will develop lung cancer down the road! Not unless the power supply is well filtered! Bwaahahaha hehehee//.. colin - /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ www.coffeecrew.com Colin Newell's Daily Grind rnewell AT vcn DOT bc DOT ca \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ |
I have a theory that tube type oldies
may be less sensitive to puffers.. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ www.coffeecrew.com Colin Newell's Daily Grind rnewell AT vcn DOT bc DOT ca \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ |
Ahhhhh,Bite It! Potty Mouth Polly,just BITE IT! I live in a nice neat
tidy neighborhood.Except for living in a few other states,Indiana 1947,Montana 1956,Kansas 1957,Illinois 1963,Texas 1965,one foreign Country,Vietnam 1964,my old home town 1941 (1947 was in Indiana) through most of 1949,I have lived right here on the West Side of Jackson and the few roads in my neighborhood,I have not seen or heard of any crime around here yet.I keep my yard neat and tidy and I just recently painted my house too.I just now mowed my yard.Go put some more perfume on,you Stink! to High Heaven! You SLUT! cuhulin |
Potty Mouth Polly,I don't want you moving into my neighborhood,,,,, You
STINK! all of my good neighbors would be holding their noses and pointing at YOU! cuhulin |
Yeah,you tell em,PMS Polly Potty Mouth,you tell em.
cuhulin |
RNEW,
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... Polly wrote: wrote: I did a www.dogpile.com for,Charcoal Filter Ash Trays I think somewhere among my piles and piles of junk stacked on top of piles and piles (literally) of junk,I do own a charcoal filter ash tray that has a little fan and charcoal filter in the base of it,It uses either one C cell battery or one D cell battery.I remember I once tried it out and the fan makes quite a bit of noise and I decided not to use it so I put it back in the box and I stashed it somewhere.By the time I found it,I would have a long grey beard that would stretch from here to Montana www.montanasnews.com and back.I bought it at a Goodwill thrift store years ago.I am going to the Goodwill thrift store and the foodstore and the Home Depot store this afternoon,but first I will stop off at Metrocenter Mall www.metromalljackson.com just across Highway 80 from me and see if there is a store over there that sells an ash tray like that.I think there is a fancy tobacco store at Northpark Mall (that mall has a website,but I don't remember the website) wayyyyyy up North just across County Line Road from Jackson in Ridgeland and they might sell those kinds of ash trays. cuhulin Well, it appears I was right in my initial impression of you CooKooLin. You live in a jigaboo neighborhood and you live by jigaboo standards. I would bet that your filthy roach infested hovel is as close to being condemned as some of those jigaboo shacks that surround you. You are white trash PERIOD! Jigaboo? dxAce Michigan USA Poly is a racist cracker. B.H. |
"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... Poly is a racist cracker. Damn, Brian! That was -funny-!! gbg |
"Honus" wrote in message news:2RZ7e.31397$qO6.14794@trnddc05... "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... Poly is a racist cracker. Damn, Brian! That was -funny-!! gbg : ) B.H. |
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Smoke engulfs myself, and all I own. In the wintertime, when the place
is sealed up tight, opening the door releases a cloud of dense smoke. May I suggest buying a more pricey non-smokers radio. Leave the smoke laden remnents of things to people like myself. Darren http://hometown.aol.com/darren1965co...e/profile.html |
Furthermore... The idea that a sensative, pristine, pure-type
individual, like yourself, would subject your sensabilities to a dirty old smokers damaged goods, is troubling. Even if you soaped it down, it would still be defiled. You deserve better. This radio, having been smoked on, is like a woman who's "been around". She might be acceptible to me, but I can't see you with her. Just some random thoughts. Darren P.S. If you take up with her anyway, you'll always have issues of trust. |
So,while the woman "might have been around" (as you put it) What makes
you think you are so great yourself!? YOU! are full of ****! cuhulin |
Well...I don't know whether the radio was defiled or not. That's a
personal issue best left with you and your radio...I have no interest in knowing what the two of you do with the lights out. I do know that radios that were used by smokers do accumulate the tar and other residue left over from burning tobacco leaves. The result smells like a combination of the clothes smokers wear and an old ash tray that needs cleaning. Also, the tar does have an effect on electrical components. I'm not sensative to smoke, but I'm certainly sensitive to it - the odor is obnoxious. When the odor is combined with an awareness of what it does to the human body the habit becomes downright repulsive. I've never understood why smokers feel it necessary to smoke while driving with the window down and why they feel it necessary to drop ashes and burnt cigarettes everywhere. Why not close the car window and get fully enjoymant of all that smoke - I'm sure nobody else wants to share it. And put the ashes in a cup or maybe an ashtray. |
I smoke and drive with my car window down while I am smoking.I never
throw my cigarette butts out the window.That is what ash trays are for and I always use them too.Twice each month,I wash my car and I vacuum it out and I clean out the ash tray and I dispose of the cigarette butts and ashes in my garbage I put out front of my house on Tuesday's and Friday's for the garbage truck to pick up.I am not a litterbug. cuhulin |
Some people wax their cars. Not me. Mine is protected by a layer of
filth. The inside of my car is covered with a preserving coat of nicotine. As far as "the butts" are concerned, I cast them about, like Johnny Appleseed. Again, regarding smoke contaminated radios, don't waste your time. Leave those poor, mistreated, smoked on, utilities, to the likes of me. Darren |
Why not drive with the window up while smoking. That way you can
consume nictotine and tar more efficiently by not scattering most of it to the wind. Who knows, you might be able to reduce the number of cigarettes smoked while maintaining the same nicotine blood level and save some money in the process. And the people behind you won't have to involuntarily participate. |
Actually, I do keep my windows closed, in the car, as much as
possible. The glaze formed on the glass, from cigarette smoke, acts as a window tint. Darren |
And the glaze forms in your lungs too, acting not as a sunscreen but a
particularly effective irritant that leads inexorably to one or more serious physical maladies. |
"D. Martin" wrote in message oups.com... Then again, there are people who smoke their entire life, and die of old age. Having lived a full, and rewarding life. My contention is, that overall lifestyle, along with genetics, dictates an individual's vulnerability to sickness. Darren I have wondered about all that too, but don't the stats tell us that smokers are at much higher risk of strokes, cancer, and heart attacks? Strokes are SCARY! DeWayne |
My self-justification is based solely on hypothosis. Life experience,
and knowlege of my ancestry, helps to formulate my opinion, as well. Death is certain. Life is moreso precarious. I've done the math, and the gamble is on. Darren |
I can't drive my car with the windows up or else my farts would blow
them all out. cuhulin |
"My self-justification is based solely on hypothosis.
Life experience, and knowlege of my ancestry, helps to formulate my opinion, as well. " JS Sorry, but you know next to nothing about how your genetic makeup will or will not protect you against the well documented dangers of smoking. "Death is certain. Life is moreso precarious." JS No doubt that death is certain, but why intentionally bring it on sooner than necessary. Why run the risk of having to live your last decade pushing a wheeled oxygen cart around or being permanently disabled by stroke or by having a lung suddenly collapse. "I've done the math, and the gamble is on." JS OK, so you say you have quantified the risk. Please explain the math that you have done, tell me the numeric weights and probabilities you used and how they were developed. |
I don't want to bore you with statistical data. You could counter it
anyway. I do have a favorite though. The japanese statistics on lung disease. With a nearly 80% smoking rate among the adult populace, lung problems are virtually non-existant. The only cancer known of, is of the intestanal variety. That's been attributed to the high diet of sushi. I like smoking, actually enjoy it. My grandpa and I used to sit and talk, while smoking. It was a real treat. We'd have long talks about how much we enjoyed are smoking, among other things. I'm beyond the reaches of your intellectual appeal. Anti- smoking campaigns are blazing all around me. One thing I like, my organs aren't suitable for transplantation, because of cigarettes. That pleases me to no end. Darren |
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