(OT) NAZI's, Hitler Youth, The Pope et al.
I knew (know) a lot of people in Germany who were forced into the Hitler Youth
and drafted into the German Army in WWII. I've personally never had a problem with a single one of them and even though many of them were captured by US forces during the war, I was welcomed by them all into their homes. Some of the best times I've ever had. Personally guided tours to a lot of different places that I'll probably never see again, but I sure was glad to meet them all. The really unfortunate thing is that all veterans of WWII, and those who lived through it are rapidly departing this life... dxAce Michigan USA |
I know a guy (via email) who is of German ancestry.He was born in
Croatia.During World War Two,the nazis sent him and his sister and his parents to naziland.(Germany) He once told me (he is my same age) that was the best thing the nazis ever did for them.When he was nine years old,they immigrated to America.He has 47 years experience with working with computers and he knows every computer operating system that has ever existed and he also uses webtv AND his computers.Anything I want to know about computers,I always ask him. cuhulin |
Nice post. I think this points up the fact that many people in Germany
in the 30's and 40's were not particularly bad people, not bad at all really, but were swept along with everyone else in the hysteria spread by their leadership. I'm sure lots of German people were afraid and very upset about what the Nazis stood for. Good people *can* get caught up in bad times; one can only hope that it will always be temporary. Bruce Jensen |
Back in the 1950's,at the South end of the road I live on,there was a
German lady from Germany and she had married an American guy who was in World War Two,they had a little girl.Where the North end of the Road I live on T's into Carter Circle,an eighty five year old guy (American guy) lives there and he was in the U.S.Army,149th Signal Company in Europe (Germany and France) during World War Two.I used to know a guy (American guy,he passed away about three years ago) who lived in Pearl,Mississippi,he was originally from Chunky,Mississippi when he was born (Pearl is just across the Pearl River,East of Jackson) and he was in Asia,U.S.Navy during World War Two,some of those Islands over there in Asia where the worst fighting was going on.I don't care what some folks say,I have my Opinions too,I Still Say,Damn naziland (Germany) to HELL!!!!! Same with limeyland too. cuhulin |
A German lady from Germany........
You are beyond help, that much is very clear. Just kill yourself and save the county/state some money. Les |
Those millions of nazis (Germans) were (and still are DUMB!,there are
many,many of them today! wanting the old nazism to come back!,just like many,many russkys today are wanting the old style stalism communism to come back today!) DUMB! during that era.They believed and sucked up (lots of them did) to that nazi crap! They will Never Learn! Now,let me get on over to the Goodwill thrift store and flirt with them wimmins over there.naziland's economy is Failing! now,or have y'all noticed that? To that,I Say,GOOD! cuhulin |
Yes, it is interesting that most of the guys that fight the wars are
not there out of choice. They are there not out of some burning desire to kill the other side, but, are there to do a job they have been ordered to do. The pilots, sailors and soldiers I've talked with are willing to talk about the personal side of their wartime experience - the people met, comrades, fun time in camp and to an extent what the war machines were like to operate. They go understandably quiet the closer the conversation gets to what really happens in wartime. |
From: dxAce
Organization: Just Enough To Make It Happen Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:37:23 -0400 Subject: (OT) NAZI's, Hitler Youth, The Pope et al. I knew (know) a lot of people in Germany who were forced into the Hitler Youth and drafted into the German Army in WWII. I've personally never had a problem with a single one of them and even though many of them were captured by US forces during the war, I was welcomed by them all into their homes. Some of the best times I've ever had. Personally guided tours to a lot of different places that I'll probably never see again, but I sure was glad to meet them all. The really unfortunate thing is that all veterans of WWII, and those who lived through it are rapidly departing this life... dxAce Michigan USA Drakeman, were you stationed in Germany or was this as a civilian? I was stationed in Bad Kreuznach, 8th Infantry Div MP Company (67-69), tho I never busted anybody! Greg |
John S. wrote:
Yes, it is interesting that most of the guys that fight the wars are not there out of choice. They are there not out of some burning desire to kill the other side, but, are there to do a job they have been ordered to do. The pilots, sailors and soldiers I've talked with are willing to talk about the personal side of their wartime experience - the people met, comrades, fun time in camp and to an extent what the war machines were like to operate. They go understandably quiet the closer the conversation gets to what really happens in wartime. My Dad was in Korea 22 months. This describes his feelings to a tee. When asked about the war, he replied that he was mostly bitter, that he felt two years of his life were just washed away, and that he missed so much at home. Other than telling us that drove and operated a Jeep/Truck with an 88mm "cannon" mounted on top, he never really talked about his experience - he just wanted to forget it. He won several sharpshooter and other awards (bars and small medals) and he won a bronze star - for what, we will now never know - he never told us, and his HD papers do not reveal the circumstances. Bruce Jensen |
Greg wrote: From: dxAce Organization: Just Enough To Make It Happen Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:37:23 -0400 Subject: (OT) NAZI's, Hitler Youth, The Pope et al. I knew (know) a lot of people in Germany who were forced into the Hitler Youth and drafted into the German Army in WWII. I've personally never had a problem with a single one of them and even though many of them were captured by US forces during the war, I was welcomed by them all into their homes. Some of the best times I've ever had. Personally guided tours to a lot of different places that I'll probably never see again, but I sure was glad to meet them all. The really unfortunate thing is that all veterans of WWII, and those who lived through it are rapidly departing this life... dxAce Michigan USA Drakeman, were you stationed in Germany or was this as a civilian? I was there both in the military and later as a civilian. I lived in Munchen for a while. dxAce Michigan USA |
My eight years older brother was an MP.Years later,he got into
Helicopter Maintnance.(he always was a good mechanic) He and I were in Vietnam in 1964,his second Tour of Duty in Vietnam following a year in Germany,1963.He was at Vung Tau,Vietnam.I once caught the Chaplin Run one Sunday to go visit my brother.He was in R.O.T.C. at Central High School in Jackson back in the early 1950's. www.angelfire.com/md2/Ldotvets cuhulin |
Bruce Jensen,I Salute your dad.
cuhulin |
I wasen't bitter about my three years in the U.S.Army and I am not
bitter now.It was a Job. cuhulin |
I Worked with a guy who was in Germany in the 30's & was in Hitler Youth.. " Like the Boy Scouts" was his take on it.. Nice guy, good sense of humor, usually easy going, hard worker.. & then " That Jew ******* " would jump out when he spoke.. .. & I'd just cringe.. Had a teacher who lost her whole family in the Holocast; One of the best teachers I had in College our neighbors fled from Germany to Switzerland & then landed in the U.S. & learned english & worked hard & luckily survived & did OK.. & I had a freind who lost her mother in the holocast.. - So I think the Pope must have learned a horrible lesson in his youth.. He and I may have different views on a variety of issues but They wouldn't have picked him if he wasn't a truly good man.. |
"Dan" wrote in message ups.com... They wouldn't have picked him if he wasn't a truly good man.. You've GOT to be kidding. |
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Most guys seem to take that approach.
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onetime,personally,I have never killed anybody before.I worked in
Ammunition Supply in www.114thaviationcompany.com in Vietnam in 1964.I HOPE the Ammunition (Small Arms Ammo on up to Rockets) my coworkers and myself supplied to our 114th Aviation Company Base Camps KILLED (KILLED!!!!) many,many,many of the Vietcong! You snotty nose Mother ****er!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would Gladly (GLADLY!) do it all over again too! cuhulin |
****ing!!!!!!! tesco,tesco food stores in limeyland.onetime,YOU GO TO
HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cuhulin |
wrote: onetime,personally,I have never killed anybody before.I worked in Ammunition Supply in www.114thaviationcompany.com in Vietnam in 1964.I HOPE the Ammunition (Small Arms Ammo on up to Rockets) my coworkers and myself supplied to our 114th Aviation Company Base Camps KILLED (KILLED!!!!) many,many,many of the Vietcong! You snotty nose Mother ****er!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would Gladly (GLADLY!) do it all over again too! cuhulin This is a little unclear - you DID kill someone ("onetime") or you didn't? Nevermind. It does look as though you regret not killing - or knowing that you killed - people. Let's assume that those weapons you supplied did kill "many, many, many of the Vietcong", and let us further assume that by "many" you mean 10. You cannot, of course, claim any hand in targeting those weapons, and so the best we can to to guage their effect is to assume they matched the average effect of the United States over the run of the war. Simple arithmetic then shows that you would then be responsible for killing 1000 "Vietcong" - but that's not all. Using gerally accepted casualty figures you would also be responsible for killing roughly 1800 innocent Vietnamese civillians; and about 13 Americans and one or two members of other forces (Australian and the like). There, now. Feel better? |
What constitutes the act of killing in your book. If you are a
navigator who points the way, or the ground crew that loads the incindiaries does that constitute killing? Why is the number of kills so important to you. I think I know the answer, but please enlighten us about the extent of your wartime experience. |
"John S." wrote in message ups.com... Why is the number of kills so important to you. Just wondering, some survivors of war are descibed as bitter, some are not. "cuhulin" claims membership of the latter - is it because he did not (knowingly, directly, with intent) kill anyone? |
jtaylor wrote: "John S." wrote in message ups.com... Why is the number of kills so important to you. Just wondering, some survivors of war are descibed as bitter, some are not. "cuhulin" claims membership of the latter - is it because he did not (knowingly, directly, with intent) kill anyone? But he has, by estimate, done away with (including fellow countrymen) over two and a half thousand souls. |
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