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Brenda Ann April 27th 05 02:32 AM


"Jim" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:49:38 GMT, David wrote:

CD's are popular because they don't get scratched.


What planet are you on? CDs are *easily* damaged by a scratch - in
fact you can make a CD unplayable by a single scratch.

Jim



Especially if said scratch is in an arc..




[email protected] April 27th 05 02:36 AM

www.dogpile.com D-Skin
Wal Mart and K-Mart and similar stores sell them and computer stores
sell them too.
cuhulin


Tony Meloche April 27th 05 03:04 AM

Brian Running wrote:
When CD's came in, I was astonished at how quickly they swept away
vinyl -



As a matter of fact, when CDs came in, it was cassette tapes that they
swept away. Cassettes had been out-selling LPs for several years before
the arrival of CDs. AM stereo sounded as good as, or better than, your
typical cassette tape, to my ears. There's no accounting for popular
tastes!


I dunno - I know many people - of all ages - who still use cassettes
regularly, though not as much as Ipods and the CD's they burn
themselves, no. But I am the only person I know who still listens to
many of the excellent recordings they've had on vinyl for years (though
85% of my listening is now CD's, of course).

Also, you can go into a retailer like Best Buy or Circuit City and
find four or five tape decks - you'll be lucky to find one turntable.
Online shoppng for those items? Much the same. The popularity of
cassettes today is a pale shadow of what it once was. But in my view,
CD's gave a more devastating blow to vinyl.

Tony

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Tony Meloche April 27th 05 03:14 AM

David wrote:


CD's are popular because they don't get scratched.


Head-to-head, vinyl records can be ruined by scratches a lot easier
than CD's, yes, but CD's can certainly be scratched beyond repair - and
it's not that hard to do, even accidentally.




The average person
can't tell the difference between a phone call and FM.



That's like saying "the average person can't tell the difference
between chocolate and horseradish"!

Tony


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Brenda Ann April 27th 05 03:44 AM


"Tony Meloche" wrote in message
...
David wrote:


CD's are popular because they don't get scratched.


Head-to-head, vinyl records can be ruined by scratches a lot easier
than CD's, yes, but CD's can certainly be scratched beyond repair - and
it's not that hard to do, even accidentally.




The average person
can't tell the difference between a phone call and FM.



That's like saying "the average person can't tell the difference
between chocolate and horseradish"!

Tony


Really, it's pretty much true. The "average" person really can't tell the
difference in quality between AM, FM or CD. Nor mono and stereo for that
matter. They listen to 'their tunes', and that's all that's important. For
years, their were two hard rock stations in Portland. One AM (out of
Vancouver) and one FM. The ratings were in a dead heat. Basically, if it's
what people want to hear, they'll listen to it.



[email protected] April 27th 05 04:20 AM

I own an old large table model Admiral AM Radio with a Phonograph built
in the top of it.It dates back to the 1950's and it works very good
too.It is in good condition,I paid $2.00 for it at a Goodwill thrift
store about six years ago.I also own a small wind up record player that
dates back to the 1940's (I think) and it works good and I own a floor
model wind up wooden cabinet Phonograph that has the big horn speaker
mounted below the turn table,it would work ok,but it has a week
spring.It was built by a furniture company in Louisiana back in the
1930's or 1940's.I own several more more modern day phonograph's too.
cuhulin


Tony Meloche April 27th 05 05:06 AM

Brenda Ann wrote:
"Tony Meloche" wrote in message
...

David wrote:


CD's are popular because they don't get scratched.


Head-to-head, vinyl records can be ruined by scratches a lot easier
than CD's, yes, but CD's can certainly be scratched beyond repair - and
it's not that hard to do, even accidentally.





The average person
can't tell the difference between a phone call and FM.



That's like saying "the average person can't tell the difference
between chocolate and horseradish"!

Tony



Really, it's pretty much true. The "average" person really can't tell the
difference in quality between AM, FM or CD. Nor mono and stereo for that
matter. They listen to 'their tunes', and that's all that's important. For
years, their were two hard rock stations in Portland. One AM (out of
Vancouver) and one FM. The ratings were in a dead heat. Basically, if it's
what people want to hear, they'll listen to it.



I'll go this far with you: I may be in a bit of a cocoon. I'm a
lifelong musician, married to a lifelong musician, and we have far more
money in our stereo system (for listening) than we do in our home
theater system. But if we define the "average person" as "the majority
of folks", and not a statistical mean, the "average person" thinks
on-hold Muzak on the phone sounds "tinny", AM radio sounds "good" and
the same tunes on FM radio sound "great". There certainly are people to
whom a strawberry lollipop and fresh strawberries both just "taste like
strawberry", but I believe there are many more people - "average people"
- to whom the difference is night and day.

Tony



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Eric F. Richards April 27th 05 05:13 AM

David wrote:

That's the FCC's fault. There are too many stations and the
bandwidths (both transmit and receive) have to be narrow or the
splatter would drive the few remaining nut jobs that still listen to
AM away.


Hardly the FCC's fault. 1) we have wider channels in our ITU region
than anywhere else in the world, and 2) that receiver improved
dramatically the sound quality of existing AM stations.

--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Eric F. Richards April 27th 05 05:14 AM

wrote:

CD's and DVD's can and often do get scratches.I see them all the time in
the thrift stores here.There are clear flexible plastic covers available
at stores which sell electronics.I use them on my Scotch and Irish music
CD's and my computer CD's.
cuhulin


You drink Scotch. Clearly, you drink too much Scotch. You listen to
Scottish or Scotts music.


Tony Meloche April 27th 05 05:31 AM

Eric F. Richards wrote:
David wrote:


That's the FCC's fault. There are too many stations and the
bandwidths (both transmit and receive) have to be narrow or the
splatter would drive the few remaining nut jobs that still listen to
AM away.



Hardly the FCC's fault. 1) we have wider channels in our ITU region
than anywhere else in the world,



True (as I understand it),


and 2) that receiver improved
dramatically the sound quality of existing AM stations.


Also true. But 30 years later, it is a footnote in electronics history.

The engineers made a tremendous accomplishment with wideband AM stereo.
The consumer shrugged.

The engineers made a tremendous accomplishment with CD technology.
The consumer was ecstatic.

There's always a thriving market for what people will buy (and it's
sometimes nonsense, granted).

There is little or no market for what people won't buy.

'Way too few people bought into stereo AM.

Tony




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