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jon wrote:
Greetings Guys! I have read all of your comments on the subject and I agree with you on one point, people should not set dates. I have studied the Bible for the last 40 years and I read specifically that no man knows the day or the hour. That doesn't change the fact that it will happen. Having read your posts I know that you don't agree with what I just said. So, if you must flame me go ahead. I want to speak the truth. I occasionally listen to the shortwave preachers, and most are just finding a soap box to stand on to either try to make some money, or to try to make a case for their brand of doctrine. Most tell some truth, but do more damage than good. I would rather read from the Bible for the amount of time it takes to listen to any of the shortwave preachers as I find most laking a lot of truth. I am ready today no matter when he comes, and he will. Have a great week! Jon in South Carolina. "No man knows the day nor hour, not even the Son, but only the Father". Not sure if that's exact, but I understand that it's exactly what the Bible teaches. Preachers who predict the end love to quote that, and then proceed to give all the signs that "prove" that the end will be a month from tomorrow. So much for their credibility. The Bible also says that "the Lord will come as a thief in the night", which to me means that there will BE no signs, that he'll just show up one day. And that day could be tomorrow or a hundred years from now, for a thousand years is as one day to the Lord, according to the Bible. All this is basic Biblical theology, yet all the preachers on SW and elsewhere who want to promise the end to their sheep ignore it. Most disturbing to me are the fundies who want to force God's hand and destroy the earth through human means so that God will be forced to bring the end and restore the destroyed earth through divine intervention. The concept that humans can force the will of God is an exercise in futility, I doubt that God is influenced by a bunch of puny mortals, but the fundies really believe in it. We'll end up with a ruined earth and no second coming in sight if the fundies get their way, and then what will they do? What will WE do? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Stephen M.H. Lawrence wrote:
"running dogg" wrote: (snipped for brevity) Most disturbing to me are the fundies who want to force God's hand and destroy the earth through human means so that God will be forced to bring the end and restore the destroyed earth through divine intervention. My only concern with the dispensationalists is the thought that some are willing to commit sinister acts to "foreshorten" the second coming of Jesus. I don't believe that's hype, by the way; even though you might consider my experience anecdotal and empirical, and you might accuse me of solipsism (wouldn't be the first time that's happened), I've met a number of end-of-the-worlders who have expressed a willingness to do "whatever it takes" to hasten the coming of the Messiah. That's odd thinking at best; God's got His own agenda, as far as I can tell, and His agenda is sovereign and not subject to the whims of His creatures. The Jews teach that God is unknowable, that it is impossible for mere humans to know his thought processes. Since Christianity sprang from Judaism, I find it quite odd that so many "dispensationalists" (probably a more accurate description than "fundies", since not all those who believe in the literal truth of the Bible are end of world types, but a word that the people in question are likely unfamiliar with) think that they know what God is thinking, and that God is a machine that you can push the right buttons and get the second coming out the other end, since traditional Christianity teaches just the opposite. That and American Christianity's annoying tendency toward "witnessing" in direct contradiction to the words of Jesus in the gospel of Matthew, are two big reasons why I'm no longer a Christian. Once you become familiar with the New Testament, not reading it by rote as so many dispensationalists do but taking the time to think it over, you'll see that what passes for Christianity in today's world, and especially in America, is far away from the teachings of Jesus. The fundies' willingness to commit evil acts, acts that Jesus would never condone, in order to force Jesus to show up greatly troubles me. David recently posted a LONG article about how fundies are against the environmental movement on religious grounds: if humans hurry up and destroy the earth, then Jesus will have no choice but to restore it per Revelations. This thinking is not new, nor is it limited to Christians: the Jewish Zealots burned Jerusalem's food supplies in order to force God to intervene and save them from the Romans. When that didn't happen, they burned their own food supplies expecting the same result. Ultimately they committed suicide rather than face the fact that God had not smited the Romans and that they were about to die by the sword. If the fundies find themselves caught in an irreconcilable position between hard reality and their religious expectations, will they do the same-and drag the rest of us along with them? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
"Jason" wrote in message
... Tuned into Open Forum on 7360 last night at around 22.45 BST. According to the Bible Basher, all signs in the bible point to the Second ComingT of Christ as happening in 2011. Everyone will see him apparently, and the dead will be resurrected. Might want to stay in. After all of the prophecies predicting the end of the world (Hoaxes included.) how does anyone expect to take him seriously? Makes London's bid for the 2012 Olympics seem trivial. Shame, I was looking forward to the total solar eclipse of 2015 (Faroe Islands). |
Exactly when in 2011. I've got a dentist appointment on the 5th of May.
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Fredrick Garvin wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:43:55 +0100, Jason expelled the following: Tuned into Open Forum on 7360 last night at around 22.45 BST. According to the Bible Basher, all signs in the bible point to the Second ComingT of Christ as happening in 2011. Everyone will see him apparently, and the dead will be resurrected. Might want to stay in. After all of the prophecies predicting the end of the world (Hoaxes included.) how does anyone expect to take him seriously? "End of world" idiots crack me up! What a sad sad life they must lead.... I have witnessed dozens of end-of-the-world predictions in my life time, and every time the latest one is the sure thing. A bunch of loonies. |
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"RHF" wrote in message oups.com... DW, . 20 NOV 2011 @ 20:11 Hours - On-the-Dot. { On-the-Dot = Analog Time for 'Exactly' } . ~ RHF . . . . . Which time zone? UTC? Brad. |
Brad wrote: "RHF" wrote in message oups.com... DW, . 20 NOV 2011 @ 20:11 Hours - On-the-Dot. { On-the-Dot = Analog Time for 'Exactly' } . ~ RHF . . . . . Which time zone? UTC? Of course! Be sure to listen to WWV, they'll be issuing a special "End Of The World" QSL for their final broadcast. dxAce Michigan USA http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
Brad - EOT = End-of-Time ~ RHF
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