On 12 May 2005 21:32:29 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


So knuckle under regardless of the circumstances. Sieg heil.


Sieg Heil? Ha! Aren't you "special"!

Meaningless red herring.

Regardless of the circumstances,
according to the law as written by elected representatives, when a LEO
utters the magic phrase, "You are under arrest", you have *zero* legal
recourse

I haveplenty of legal recourse, including notifying the dimwis
if I have pertinent medical conditions relating to my arrest, right to
explain why they might be making a grave error in arresting me,
notification of my Miranda rights, etc. Little "magic words" formulas
don't cut it in reducing me to having "zero rights" no matter how
lusty and tough it sounds to you.

other than to submit to the arrest, be read your rights, get
booked into custody and engage the services of an attorney. You don't
have to like it - and you can make your "sieg heil" apples and oranges
comparisons all you like - but that's the facts of life.

So you agree with the Nazification of Amerika?



Explain, if you can, how abiding by the law is "Nazification". Try to bear
in mind that you are two-for-two in "apples and oranges" comparisons so
far.

Knuckling under to perceived "laws" as interpreted by those
who have an interest in keeping you from asserting your real rights
invites abuse by those do so. Ergo -- Nazification.



I personally know too many cops (including few in my own
family) to give any credence to what you think goes on in the real
world.



The lack of character, morality and ethics in your family may explain your
warped point of view.

They were exactly representative of the attitudes of their
co-workers. In more than one West Coast city.

In any event, I have far more first-hand experience
than you realize.

Yeah, and I'm the chief of police of NYC. Whoopee.

Let's start with the time I heard, in a municpal courthouse
cafeteria, a bunch of deputies at a nearby table yukking it up about a
fellow "officer of the law." He was said to be "just a little too
macho" because he beat the **** out of a nun he had in custody. Yet,
had he been dropped, as he so righteously should have been, he'd have
been lauded as "one of our own" and "a fallen hero". Barf!

Umm... Yeah... Right... And you purport to be a judge of anyone else's
"creedence"? Gimme a break...

Do you consider your "answer" in any way to diminish my
"creedence" [sic]? I simply reported a first hand experience of smug
cop thuggishness inside a courthouse and you feel qualified to blow it
off with a supercilious "Umm... Yeah... Right..." If that's the best
you can offer, drop out and drop dead.