Major Climate Change Under Way As Predicted
 

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected


Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain and
Europe.


original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a slowdown
in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and
Europe from freezing.

They have found that one of the “engines” driving the Gulf Stream —
the sinking of supercooled water in the Greenland Sea — has weakened
to less than a quarter of its former strength.

The weakening, apparently caused by global warming, could herald big
changes in the current over the next few years or decades.
Paradoxically, it could lead to Britain and northwestern and Europe
undergoing a sharp drop in temperatures.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This discovery is absolutely incredible. I do believe they have
greatly understated the effects of a current failure. That part is
subject to debate. In my opinion the most concerning quote from the
story was "Until recently we would find giant ‘chimneys’ in the sea
where columns of cold, dense water were sinking from the surface to
the seabed 3,000 metres below, but now they have almost disappeared."

If and when the current fails the effects will quickly wrap around the
globe. If anything global warming may amplify the effects by greating
greater temperature differences from north to south and provide the
instability necessary to create huge storms by creating a greater
verticle temperature difference.

http://www.atsnn.com/story/139186.html

David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain and
Europe.

original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a slowdown
in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and
Europe from freezing.

They have found that one of the “engines” driving the Gulf Stream —
the sinking of supercooled water in the Greenland Sea — has weakened
to less than a quarter of its former strength.

The weakening, apparently caused by global warming, could herald big
changes in the current over the next few years or decades.
Paradoxically, it could lead to Britain and northwestern and Europe
undergoing a sharp drop in temperatures.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

This discovery is absolutely incredible. I do believe they have
greatly understated the effects of a current failure. That part is
subject to debate. In my opinion the most concerning quote from the
story was "Until recently we would find giant ‘chimneys’ in the sea
where columns of cold, dense water were sinking from the surface to
the seabed 3,000 metres below, but now they have almost disappeared."

If and when the current fails the effects will quickly wrap around the
globe. If anything global warming may amplify the effects by greating
greater temperature differences from north to south and provide the
instability necessary to create huge storms by creating a greater
verticle temperature difference.

http://www.atsnn.com/story/139186.html

And David wakes up retarded yet again.

No big surprise.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sun, 15 May 2005 08:30:08 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain and
Europe.

original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a slowdown
in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and
Europe from freezing.

They have found that one of the “engines” driving the Gulf Stream —
the sinking of supercooled water in the Greenland Sea — has weakened
to less than a quarter of its former strength.

The weakening, apparently caused by global warming, could herald big
changes in the current over the next few years or decades.
Paradoxically, it could lead to Britain and northwestern and Europe
undergoing a sharp drop in temperatures.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

This discovery is absolutely incredible. I do believe they have
greatly understated the effects of a current failure. That part is
subject to debate. In my opinion the most concerning quote from the
story was "Until recently we would find giant ‘chimneys’ in the sea
where columns of cold, dense water were sinking from the surface to
the seabed 3,000 metres below, but now they have almost disappeared."

If and when the current fails the effects will quickly wrap around the
globe. If anything global warming may amplify the effects by greating
greater temperature differences from north to south and provide the
instability necessary to create huge storms by creating a greater
verticle temperature difference.

http://www.atsnn.com/story/139186.html

And David wakes up retarded yet again.

No big surprise.

dxAce
Michigan
USA
The end is near. You won't have Rickets to kick around any more.

dxAce wrote:

http://www.atsnn.com/story/139186.html


And David wakes up retarded yet again.

No big surprise.


When did you first start hating the environment, Bozo? It would appear that any
sane individual would care enough to try, in some way, to protect the planet we
live on. It's the only planet we have. The problem being is that an
inconsiderate boob, such as yourself, can undo the work of thousands with their
stupidity.

You may now resume dumping your used crankase oil into the storm sewer.








mike

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

http://www.atsnn.com/story/139186.html


And David wakes up retarded yet again.

No big surprise.

When did you first start hating the environment, Bozo? It would appear that any
sane individual would care enough to try, in some way, to protect the planet we
live on. It's the only planet we have. The problem being is that an
inconsiderate boob, such as yourself, can undo the work of thousands with their
stupidity.

You may now resume dumping your used crankase oil into the storm sewer.

Sounds like something one might do up in CanaDuh.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sun, 15 May 2005 09:32:08 -0500, Ryan
wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

''Ultra left''? What's that got to do with anything?

Think of the ocean currents as a ceiling fan. They even out the
temperature around the world. If they stop circulating it gets really
hot aound the tropics and really cold nearer the poles.

David wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 09:32:08 -0500, Ryan
wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

''Ultra left''? What's that got to do with anything?

Think of the ocean currents as a ceiling fan. They even out the
temperature around the world. If they stop circulating it gets
really
hot aound the tropics and really cold nearer the poles.
.................................................. ................................
You can hear the full interview on Whitley Streiber's Dreamland
(winmedia)

"Ryan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

I think the environment is everybodys concern.

On Sun, 15 May 2005 16:16:48 GMT, "FDR"
wrote:


"Ryan" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

I think the environment is everybodys concern.


The wingnuts have made wasting energy and polluting the atmosphere
into a perverse political statement. Every time I see a Lincoln
Navigator with a ''Support the Troops'' magnet I laugh, then throw up.

The PseudoChristians are much worse however. They think they have
dominion to trash the planet and kill everything.

David wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 16:16:48 GMT, "FDR"
wrote:


"Ryan" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

I think the environment is everybodys concern.


The wingnuts have made wasting energy and polluting the atmosphere
into a perverse political statement. Every time I see a Lincoln
Navigator with a ''Support the Troops'' magnet I laugh, then throw up.

The PseudoChristians are much worse however. They think they have
dominion to trash the planet and kill everything.

You're a 'wingnut' 'tard boy, make no mistake about it.

Now get on out there and strut.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ryan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

Umm... the only thing you can reliably count on with global warming is
that whatever climate you are used to isn't going to be there.

The only people left who deny global warming is a problem are idiots
who get their scientific advice from Rush Limbaugh and his
equivalents.

This is a shortwave group. If you actually listen you should be
relatively current on news. Did you know that Sweden spent a freaking
fortune trying to save a glacier by *wrapping part of it in a huge
blanket????* Climatologists kinda snickered and said, good luck.


Even an asshole moron like Prickets is right occasionally, though not
through any consious effort of his own.


....year 9 of a drought here... nothing to see, move along now...

OBTW: Google "atlantic conveyor" to figure out what's going on. If
you are *very* fortunate, you won't live to see the result of your
stupidity.

"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

Ryan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

Umm... the only thing you can reliably count on with global warming is
that whatever climate you are used to isn't going to be there.

The only people left who deny global warming is a problem are idiots
who get their scientific advice from Rush Limbaugh and his
equivalents.

This is a shortwave group. If you actually listen you should be
relatively current on news. Did you know that Sweden spent a freaking
fortune trying to save a glacier by *wrapping part of it in a huge
blanket????* Climatologists kinda snickered and said, good luck.

Even an asshole moron like Prickets is right occasionally, though not
through any consious effort of his own.

...year 9 of a drought here... nothing to see, move along now...

OBTW: Google "atlantic conveyor" to figure out what's going on. If
you are *very* fortunate, you won't live to see the result of your
stupidity.

Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its getting
warmer.

Go back 30 years or so and everyone was screaming that it's getting colder.

Go figure.

Get over it, there's nothing you or I can do about it.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

Ryan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

Umm... the only thing you can reliably count on with global warming is
that whatever climate you are used to isn't going to be there.

The only people left who deny global warming is a problem are idiots
who get their scientific advice from Rush Limbaugh and his
equivalents.

This is a shortwave group. If you actually listen you should be
relatively current on news. Did you know that Sweden spent a freaking
fortune trying to save a glacier by *wrapping part of it in a huge
blanket????* Climatologists kinda snickered and said, good luck.

Even an asshole moron like Prickets is right occasionally, though not
through any consious effort of his own.

...year 9 of a drought here... nothing to see, move along now...

OBTW: Google "atlantic conveyor" to figure out what's going on. If
you are *very* fortunate, you won't live to see the result of your
stupidity.

Notice how this 'tard characterizes it as 'your' stupidity...

Boggling.

'Tards are amazing creatures who shouldn't be allowed to use computers. After
all, they are using up natural resources to power them... thereby polluting the
atmosphere causing either global warming or cooling.

The horror of it all!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

Ryan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

Umm... the only thing you can reliably count on with global warming is
that whatever climate you are used to isn't going to be there.

The only people left who deny global warming is a problem are idiots
who get their scientific advice from Rush Limbaugh and his
equivalents.

This is a shortwave group. If you actually listen you should be
relatively current on news. Did you know that Sweden spent a freaking
fortune trying to save a glacier by *wrapping part of it in a huge
blanket????* Climatologists kinda snickered and said, good luck.

Even an asshole moron like Prickets is right occasionally, though not
through any consious effort of his own.

...year 9 of a drought here... nothing to see, move along now...

OBTW: Google "atlantic conveyor" to figure out what's going on. If
you are *very* fortunate, you won't live to see the result of your
stupidity.

Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its
been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its
getting
warmer.

True. But then again eons ago didn't have billions of people and highly
complex civilizations. Dramatic changes in the climat can lead to droughts
and floods and eventually famine and plague that would destroy people and
economies.


Go back 30 years or so and everyone was screaming that it's getting
colder.

Go figure.

Get over it, there's nothing you or I can do about it.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

Ryan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

Umm... the only thing you can reliably count on with global warming is
that whatever climate you are used to isn't going to be there.

The only people left who deny global warming is a problem are idiots
who get their scientific advice from Rush Limbaugh and his
equivalents.

This is a shortwave group. If you actually listen you should be
relatively current on news. Did you know that Sweden spent a freaking
fortune trying to save a glacier by *wrapping part of it in a huge
blanket????* Climatologists kinda snickered and said, good luck.

Even an asshole moron like Prickets is right occasionally, though not
through any consious effort of his own.

...year 9 of a drought here... nothing to see, move along now...

OBTW: Google "atlantic conveyor" to figure out what's going on. If
you are *very* fortunate, you won't live to see the result of your
stupidity.

Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its
been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its
getting
warmer.

True. But then again eons ago didn't have billions of people and highly
complex civilizations. Dramatic changes in the climat can lead to droughts
and floods and eventually famine and plague that would destroy people and
economies.

Can't do much about it 'tard... so please, try not to have a hissy fit.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

Ryan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

Umm... the only thing you can reliably count on with global warming is
that whatever climate you are used to isn't going to be there.

The only people left who deny global warming is a problem are idiots
who get their scientific advice from Rush Limbaugh and his
equivalents.

Rush? Hell, I don't think he denies that it is warming up, however I do believe
he states that it is not necessarily caused by man. Try to be at least a little
factually correct.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:05:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its getting
warmer.

Go back 30 years or so and everyone was screaming that it's getting colder.

Go figure.

Get over it, there's nothing you or I can do about it.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Highest CO2 concentrations in hundreds of thousands of years.
Unprecedented.

David wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:05:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its getting
warmer.

Go back 30 years or so and everyone was screaming that it's getting colder.

Go figure.

Get over it, there's nothing you or I can do about it.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Highest CO2 concentrations in hundreds of thousands of years.
Unprecedented.

I guess you'd better get off the 'puter, 'tard boy... you're using up valuable
resources... contributing to global warming-cooling.

You got a car 'tard? Stop driving. (The thought of a 'tard driving is scary
enough).

You eat 'tard boy? The amount of resources used to bring you your food every day
is boggling. Stop eating.

Just OD on some of your meds, then you won't have to whine, complain and have a
nancy boy fit each and every day.

LMFAO every day at the Rickets. (Rickets is a code word for 'tard).

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Go here

http://www.predictweather.com/global_warming/index.asp

--
Sel ........ :)

Icom R75 E
Icom PCR1000
Sangean 909
Sangean 404
Uniden UBC9000XLT
Uniden UBC120XLT

http://sel.enternet.co.nz/weathersat.html

On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:38:38 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


Rush? Hell, I don't think he denies that it is warming up, however I do believe
he states that it is not necessarily caused by man. Try to be at least a little
factually correct.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


if it's CO2 related and we can materially reduce CO2 it's not
important if we ''caused'' it or not. Just important that we could
have TRIED to delay or reverse it and we did nothing.

David wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:38:38 -0400, dxAce
wrote:

Rush? Hell, I don't think he denies that it is warming up, however I do believe
he states that it is not necessarily caused by man. Try to be at least a little
factually correct.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


if it's CO2 related and we can materially reduce CO2 it's not
important if we ''caused'' it or not. Just important that we could
have TRIED to delay or reverse it and we did nothing.

I guess your whining constitutes 'doing something'.

Continue to tote, and I'll continue to laugh.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Mon, 16 May 2005 08:29:46 +1200, Sel
wrote:

Go here

http://www.predictweather.com/global_warming/index.asp



http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Lib.../warming2.html

David wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2005 08:29:46 +1200, Sel
wrote:

Go here

http://www.predictweather.com/global_warming/index.asp

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Lib.../warming2.html

The only answer is for you to OD on your meds... that will help.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"David" wrote in message
...
Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected


Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that
drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain
and
Europe.


original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a
slowdown
in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and
Europe from freezing.


I wonder if this means a revival of the Scottish ski industry,
currently in decline due to dwindling snowfalls? ;-)

Ian Smith wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected


Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that
drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain
and
Europe.


original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a
slowdown
in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and
Europe from freezing.


I wonder if this means a revival of the Scottish ski industry,
currently in decline due to dwindling snowfalls? ;-)

Even here in Michigan (USA) we haven't had any really good snow since the 60's
save for some nasty stuff in '77 and '78 or so. The ski industry has been
suffering here as well.

I though, am looking forward to planting a few palm trees and perhaps an orange
grove to help tide me through my years as a pensioner.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Ian Smith wrote:

"David" wrote in message
...
Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected


Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that
drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for
Britain
and
Europe.


original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a
slowdown
in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain
and
Europe from freezing.


I wonder if this means a revival of the Scottish ski industry,
currently in decline due to dwindling snowfalls? ;-)

Even here in Michigan (USA) we haven't had any really good snow
since the 60's
save for some nasty stuff in '77 and '78 or so. The ski industry has
been
suffering here as well.

I though, am looking forward to planting a few palm trees and
perhaps an orange
grove to help tide me through my years as a pensioner.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You may be interested to know that there are a small number of
palm trees in peoples' gardens on the north/west coast of Scotland
(c.58 degrees north). Though it's not exactly tropical there; in some
places the temperature rarely goes below freezing, because of the
"gulf stream". This is good enough for some types of palm, apparently.

And the same area of Scotland is also an excellent place for
DX-peditions seeking the ultimate trans-Atlantic MF catches;
localities remote from power lines and other sources of noise.

eg. Sheigra.http://mwc.online.fr/mwc2/mwcdxped.htm
from the Medium Wave Circle (http://www.mwcircle.org/)

Ian

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


FDR wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


"Eric F. Richards" wrote:

Ryan wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

First we burn now we freeze. The ultra left won't give up.

Umm... the only thing you can reliably count on with global warming is
that whatever climate you are used to isn't going to be there.

The only people left who deny global warming is a problem are idiots
who get their scientific advice from Rush Limbaugh and his
equivalents.

This is a shortwave group. If you actually listen you should be
relatively current on news. Did you know that Sweden spent a freaking
fortune trying to save a glacier by *wrapping part of it in a huge
blanket????* Climatologists kinda snickered and said, good luck.

Even an asshole moron like Prickets is right occasionally, though not
through any consious effort of his own.

...year 9 of a drought here... nothing to see, move along now...

OBTW: Google "atlantic conveyor" to figure out what's going on. If
you are *very* fortunate, you won't live to see the result of your
stupidity.

Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its
been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its
getting
warmer.

True. But then again eons ago didn't have billions of people and highly
complex civilizations. Dramatic changes in the climat can lead to
droughts
and floods and eventually famine and plague that would destroy people and
economies.

Can't do much about it 'tard... so please, try not to have a hissy fit.

Gee, didn't think I was. Trying to have a frank discussion about what kind
of world we are going to have. Mybe you don't have kids, but I do and I
care.

And yes, there is something we can do about it. We just haven't applied our
collective minds to it.


dxAce
Michigan
USA

dxAce wrote:

Even here in Michigan (USA) we haven't had any really good snow since the 60's
save for some nasty stuff in '77 and '78 or so. The ski industry has been
suffering here as well.

I though, am looking forward to planting a few palm trees and perhaps an orange
grove to help tide me through my years as a pensioner.


Merely get a few more insurance claims in. You've done very well up until now.







mike

And we know this HOW David? Papyrus scrolls with CO2 records? Cuneiform rock
carvings describing changing CO2 levels? Monastic lab books full of CO2
experiments? Do you even KNOW how to determine or quantify atmospheric CO2
levels?

bill


"David" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:05:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:
Highest CO2 concentrations in hundreds of thousands of years.
Unprecedented.

Bill Otten wrote:

And we know this HOW David? Papyrus scrolls with CO2 records? Cuneiform rock
carvings describing changing CO2 levels? Monastic lab books full of CO2
experiments? Do you even KNOW how to determine or quantify atmospheric CO2
levels?


It's easy enough to find. They take ice core samples at the poles and ancient
glaciers.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...S earch&meta=




mike

Bill Otten wrote:
And we know this HOW David? Papyrus scrolls with CO2 records? Cuneiform rock
carvings describing changing CO2 levels? Monastic lab books full of CO2
experiments? Do you even KNOW how to determine or quantify atmospheric CO2
levels?


another site:

http://www.carc.org/pubs/v15no5/4.htm

"Bill Otten" wrote:

And we know this HOW David? Papyrus scrolls with CO2 records? Cuneiform rock
carvings describing changing CO2 levels? Monastic lab books full of CO2
experiments? Do you even KNOW how to determine or quantify atmospheric CO2
levels?

bill


Core samples from Greenland, Antarctica, etc. contain trapped samples
of the atmosphere, as well as hints to the climate during those
periods along with other information such as ash from volcanic
eruptions, and so on.

So sorry to hear you failed high-school earth science.

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Even here in Michigan (USA) we haven't had any really good snow since the 60's
save for some nasty stuff in '77 and '78 or so. The ski industry has been
suffering here as well.

I though, am looking forward to planting a few palm trees and perhaps an orange
grove to help tide me through my years as a pensioner.

Merely get a few more insurance claims in. You've done very well up until now.

I sure am glad somebody thinks so. However, your view of my reality is just a bit
flawed, 'tard boy.

LMAO at the 'tard in CanaDuh.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"Ian Smith" wrote in message
...
"David" wrote in message
...
Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected


Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that
drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain
and
Europe.


original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a
slowdown
in the Gulf Stream - the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain
and
Europe from freezing.


I wonder if this means a revival of the Scottish ski industry,
currently in decline due to dwindling snowfalls? ;-)

Could also be a return of the "Little Ice Age" of the late medieval
and early renaissance periods.

--Mike L.

Michael Lawson wrote:

"Ian Smith" wrote in message
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"David" wrote in message
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Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected


Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that
drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain
and
Europe.


original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a
slowdown
in the Gulf Stream - the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain
and
Europe from freezing.


I wonder if this means a revival of the Scottish ski industry,
currently in decline due to dwindling snowfalls? ;-)

Could also be a return of the "Little Ice Age" of the late medieval
and early renaissance periods.

Sure seems like a "Little Ice Age" here in Michigan this month... currently 48
here. We seemed to have warmer temps last month though it was drier than normal.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"The weakening, apparently caused by global warming, could herald big
changes in the current over the next few years or decades."

It remains to be seen whether the observable melting of the ice sheets
and apparent global warming is part of a periodic natural cycle or
whether manmade pollution plays a part as well. The shrinkage of ice
packs near the poles is astounding.

"David" wrote in message
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Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected

Apparently being the key word here.

"David" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:05:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its
been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its
getting
warmer.

Go back 30 years or so and everyone was screaming that it's getting
colder.

Go figure.

Get over it, there's nothing you or I can do about it.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Highest CO2 concentrations in hundreds of thousands of years.
Unprecedented.

More junk science. Just how did we measure the CO2 hundreds of thousands of
years ago anyway?

MnMikew wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 May 2005 15:05:24 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


Climate change has been going on for eons... it's been colder, and its
been
warmer, many times. This just happens to be another period where its
getting
warmer.

Go back 30 years or so and everyone was screaming that it's getting
colder.

Go figure.

Get over it, there's nothing you or I can do about it.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Highest CO2 concentrations in hundreds of thousands of years.
Unprecedented.

More junk science. Just how did we measure the CO2 hundreds of thousands of
years ago anyway?

Someone made a comment about polar cap cores. However, in the past hundreds of
thousands of years it's been much colder and much warmer than it is now.

For example, the last ice age peaked about 20, 000 years ago. Michigan was under
ice.

Most likely the warming and cooling of the earth is caused by variations in the
radiation from the sun coupled with the wobble (tilt) of the earths axis.

I certainly hope that the whackos don't collapse in a paroxysm of fear.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

seems someone has a fixation on "tard boy"

On Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25:35 GMT, David wrote:

Significant Weakening Of Gulf Stream Detected


Posted by: Indy
On: Sun May, 8 2005 @ 08:01 GMT
Scientists have found evidence that the sinking mechanism that drives
the Gulf Stream has weakened to less than 25% of its original
strength. The results could mean a significant cooling for Britain and
Europe.


original news source:

www.timesonline.co.uk
CLIMATE change researchers have detected the first signs of a slowdown
in the Gulf Stream — the mighty ocean current that keeps Britain and
Europe from freezing.

They have found that one of the “engines” driving the Gulf Stream —
the sinking of supercooled water in the Greenland Sea — has weakened
to less than a quarter of its former strength.

The weakening, apparently caused by global warming, could herald big
changes in the current over the next few years or decades.
Paradoxically, it could lead to Britain and northwestern and Europe
undergoing a sharp drop in temperatures.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


This discovery is absolutely incredible. I do believe they have
greatly understated the effects of a current failure. That part is
subject to debate. In my opinion the most concerning quote from the
story was "Until recently we would find giant ‘chimneys’ in the sea
where columns of cold, dense water were sinking from the surface to
the seabed 3,000 metres below, but now they have almost disappeared."

If and when the current fails the effects will quickly wrap around the
globe. If anything global warming may amplify the effects by greating
greater temperature differences from north to south and provide the
instability necessary to create huge storms by creating a greater
verticle temperature difference.

http://www.atsnn.com/story/139186.html