Eton E1 MINUS XM
Hello Everybody,
I just got my new (July) issue of MONITORING TIMES and there, on page 4, is an Eton ad featuring, among others, the new Eton E1 AM/FM/Shortwave/"Satellite Ready" Radio $500. No mention of XM - nor is the XM logo on the picture of the receiver itself. I guess Eton went back to the drawing board; hence, the (further) delay in shipment. They've only been "designing" this radio for the past ten years! I wonder if they'll ever get their act together on this model or if it will be decided to make this another example of "vapor" radio. If they ever do produce this model I think it would be better NOT to be the "first kid on the block" to buy one unless you LIKE being a "guinea pig." Let others have the initial "misfortunes." This is a pity as it appears that Eton is the only manufacturer who is truly supporting shortwave radio. I only wish they would incorporate the latest circuitry, such as synchronous selectable sideband, dual conversion, and multiple bandwidths, in all of their models - including their lower-priced ones such as the E10 (sad that this model at its price is only single conversion) - even if they have to pay a license fee for certain of these features. In any event, and especially for those who have already ordered the E1, DON'T hold your breath while waiting! Best, Joe |
They have a reputation for issuing multiple press releases announcing
some grand new product that takes for ever to appear. Unfortunately the product was usually delayed and there was not always a followup press release announcing the delay...only silence. Is $500.00 less than the original estimated price? |
Joe Analssandrini wrote: Hello Everybody, I just got my new (July) issue of MONITORING TIMES and there, on page 4, is an Eton ad featuring, among others, the new Eton E1 AM/FM/Shortwave/"Satellite Ready" Radio $500. No mention of XM - nor is the XM logo on the picture of the receiver itself. Joe, The ad says "satellite ready" because you have the option of purchasing the external satellite antenna, and subscribing to the satellite service. (See the Eton E1 at Universal Radio's website. It shows the satellite antenna module as an option.) The antenna module is an option since not everyone, including myself, cares about receiving satellite radio. To wish that Eton would include sideband selectable sync detection and multiple bandwidths on their cheaper radios is like wishing that the cheapest Lexus would include all the luxury features of the most expensive Lexus. If Eton included the extra features on their cheaper radios, it only makes sense the radios would cost more. It makes good sense to offer several choices to the consumer. The more features you want, the more you have to pay. Isn't that the way it happens with everything else? |
Joe A. wrote:
If they ever do produce this model I think it would be better NOT to be the "first kid on the block" to buy one unless you LIKE being a "guinea pig." Let others have the initial "misfortunes." Spoken like a prudent person. I would not buy a sample of the first run of this radio even at $300. I'd rather wait and see. RK |
Dear John,
$500.00 was the original announced price and that included an XM antenna which is now evidently NOT included. I was in a hurry when I made my original post and I forgot to mention that apparently this radio STILL does not offer IBOC, the DAB's, or DRM, thus making it, even before its release, a technological "also-ran." Best, Joe |
Dear Gary,
I'm afraid I disagree with you. Compare the features of the Eton E10 with those of the Sony ICF-SW7600GR. Both radios sell for approximately the same price yet the Sony offers far more important features than does the Eton and, due to these features, its performance is better. Also the Sony, manufactured in Japan, is made to a far higher construction standard than is the Eton. Compare the Eton E10 or E100 with comparably-priced models from Degen/Kaito. All of these models are made in China; why aren't their features comparable at their respective prices? No one expects an AOR AR7030 Plus for the price of a Grundig Mini 100PE, but Eton, which seems to support the shortwave hobby better than any other company, should take into consideration the modern features which make SW listening more rewarding and satisfying. If Degen/Kaito can include dual bandwidths and dual conversion at $75.00 (or less), why can't Eton? If Sony can include synchronous selectable sideband circuitry AND dual conversion at $130, why can't Eton? Just my thoughts. Joe |
It Eton really wants to support the shortwave hobby, they should
include a high quality tabletop receiver in their lineup and skip this absurdly overpriced portable. Steve |
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote If Degen/Kaito can include dual bandwidths and dual conversion at $75.00 (or less), why can't Eton? Because the Chinese Communist Party subsidizes Degen/Kaito, and most State Owned Enterprizes, to undercut its primary competitors - Taiwan's Eton/Grundig & Sony. Wasn't the Degen/Kaito you likly refer to sold for less than $50 on E-Bay? If Sony can include synchronous selectable sideband circuitry AND dual conversion at $130, why can't Eton? The Sony 7600GR is a steal @$130. |
Dear Steve,
Well said. I agree with you. While I admire Eton for its support of the hobby (what other company actively promotes shortwave radios or even markets them properly - just today I saw a large display of their SW radio line at our local Circuit City, of all places!), I have less patience with the radios themselves which do not offer the serious SW listener what he/she wants/needs. I feel that they can do better. And I believe they should. I would like nothing better than to have another "irresistable" Eton product that I would "have" to buy. (The last such product they offered was/is the Grundig Satellit 800, which offers fantastic performance for its price. I know. I own one.) Best, Joe |
Dear "Boozer,"
Eton's products are in fact made in China, not Taiwan, by Tecsun, a Chinese company. There are several Degen/Kaitos selling for between $50 and $100 which offer far more than Tecsun's (Eton's) radios both in terms of features and performance. The Sony ICF-SW7600GR is indeed a "steal" at $130. It was even a "steal" at $160, which is what I paid for all five - no kidding, that's how many I own - of mine several years ago. And it is made in Japan! I recommend that anyone seriously interested in shortwave radio buy one of these "while the getting is good." Both Amazon and J&R Music World have the ICF-SW7600GR at low prices. As a "first" radio, as a "travel" radio, as an "only" radio, you just can't go wrong, in my opinion. Eton/Tecsun COULD be competitive if it truly desired to do so. Sony, though it makes the most technologically-advanced shortwave portable radios on the market, evidently is no longer interested in shortwave radio or the shortwave listener and hasn't been for some time. I really wish Eton would become the "Sony" of the 21st century, at least as far as shortwave radios are concerned. I would love to be able to support this company by buying its products but I'm afraid that its current lineup offers no incentive for me to do so. Best, Joe |
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