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Al Patrick July 3rd 05 01:35 PM

USSLiberty.Org
 
You may wish to visit http://www.ussliberty.org to find out what a fine
"friend" Israel is to the U.S.

They have a book entitled "Assault on the Liberty" you may also be
interested in. Chapter Six of that book is available online free of
charge at http://ussliberty.org/chapter6.htm and information on ordering
the book is available at http://ussliberty.org/jimsbook.htm

What does this have to do with shortwave? 1) The USS Liberty was the
most sophisticated surveillance ship of its day and it probably
monitored shortwave signals as well as many others -- including the
communications of the Israeli surveillance planes which over flew the
ship numerous times before the dastardly attack on their "friend" -
probably to blame it on the Arabs and force us into the war, on their
side, of course. 2) I heard it on shortwave radio as Pastor Peter John
Peters, http://scripturesforamerica.org/ , had a guest on who happened
to be on that ship which was under attack from gunboats, jets and
helicopters, even shooting up the lifeboats and life rafts.

When they survived, against all odds, these guys were ORDERED, by their
own commanders, not to ever speak of what happened and some have met
with "arkancide" type "accidents" after telling of the crimes the
Israelis perpetrated upon that ship that day! The guest of Pastor
Peters regularly gets death threats but continues to proclaim the truth
- and to remind the president and the people of that infamous day, June
8, 1967.

Check out their URL. Read the free chapter six posted on the web.

Thanks for reading.

Al

seigezunt July 3rd 05 02:32 PM

Re Pastor Peters and "Christian Identity"::

http://www.equip.org/free/DI100.htm

the fact that this was heard on a Christian Identity program should
discredit it outright.

Re the Liberty:

MYTH

"During the 1967 War, Israel deliberately attacked the USS Liberty."

FACT

"The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was a grievous error, largely
attributable to the fact that it occurred in the midst of the confusion
of a full-scale war in 1967. Ten official United States investigations
and three official Israeli inquiries have all conclusively established
the attack was a tragic mistake.

On June 8, 1967, the fourth day of the Six-Day War, the Israeli high
command received reports that Israeli troops in El Arish were being
fired upon from the sea, presumably by an Egyptian vessel, as they had
a day before. The United States had announced that it had no naval
forces within hundreds of miles of the battle front on the floor of the
United Nations a few days earlier; however, the USS Liberty, an
American intelligence ship assigned to monitor the fighting, arrived in
the area, 14 miles off the Sinai coast, as a result of a series of
United States communication failures, whereby messages directing the
ship not to approach within 100 miles were not received by the Liberty.
The Israelis mistakenly thought this was the ship doing the shelling
and war planes and torpedo boats attacked, killing 34 members of the
Liberty's crew and wounding 171.

Numerous mistakes were made by both the United States and Israel. For
example, the Liberty was first reported - incorrectly, as it turned
out - to be cruising at 30 knots (it was later recalculated to be 28
knots). Under Israeli (and U.S.) naval doctrine at the time, a ship
proceeding at that speed was presumed to be a warship. The sea was calm
and the U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry found that the Liberty's flag was
very likely drooped and not discernible; moreover, members of the crew,
including the Captain, Commander William McGonagle, testified that the
flag was knocked down after the first or second assault."


for more, see...


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...ths/mf6.html#j


[email protected] July 3rd 05 03:17 PM

"seigezunt" wrote:

Re Pastor Peters and "Christian Identity"::

http://www.equip.org/free/DI100.htm

the fact that this was heard on a Christian Identity program should
discredit it outright.

Re the Liberty:

MYTH

"During the 1967 War, Israel deliberately attacked the USS Liberty."

FACT

It is not a myth, and the jews in the know had LBJ cover it up.


seigezunt July 3rd 05 03:46 PM



wrote:
It is not a myth, and the jews in the know had LBJ cover it up.



This "Jew in the know" wonders if maybe this thread needs to continue
in a more appropriate forum, such as alt.revisionism or alt.skinheads.

Let's talk about shortwave.

But then again, there are all sorts of conspiracy kooks on shortwave,
and that is one of its endearing qualities. You just have to be careful
about believing it...

seigezunt


[email protected] July 3rd 05 05:13 PM

"seigezunt" wrote:



wrote:
It is not a myth, and the jews in the know had LBJ cover it up.



This "Jew in the know" wonders if maybe this thread needs to continue
in a more appropriate forum, such as alt.revisionism or alt.skinheads.

Don't forget about alt.jdl

Let's talk about shortwave.

But then again, there are all sorts of conspiracy kooks on shortwave,
and that is one of its endearing qualities. You just have to be careful
about believing it...

And much propaganda from those who hide behind us and stab us in the
back.

seigezunt



Tony July 3rd 05 05:46 PM


"seigezunt" wrote in message
ups.com...


wrote:
It is not a myth, and the jews in the know had LBJ cover it up.



This "Jew in the know" wonders if maybe this thread needs to continue
in a more appropriate forum, such as alt.revisionism or alt.skinheads.

seigezunt


No matter how much you and your likes try to decieve and hide it, the truth
will come shining through. The reason for the attacks on Liberty was to
prevent the US from knowing about the atrocities and war crimes that were
committed by the Israelis against the retreating Egyptians in the Sinai.

Patience and Time......... The truth about you and your likes will come
out.



seigezunt July 3rd 05 08:13 PM

"And much propaganda from those who hide behind us and stab us in the
back."

Lemme guess: you think the Jews control SW, too?

Pretty impressive.


Al Patrick July 3rd 05 08:24 PM

seigezunt wrote:
Re Pastor Peters and "Christian Identity"::

http://www.equip.org/free/DI100.htm

the fact that this was heard on a Christian Identity program should
discredit it outright.

Re the Liberty:

MYTH

"During the 1967 War, Israel deliberately attacked the USS Liberty."

FACT

"The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was a grievous error, largely
attributable to the fact that it occurred in the midst of the confusion
of a full-scale war in 1967. Ten official United States investigations
and three official Israeli inquiries have all conclusively established
the attack was a tragic mistake.


That's what the guest said they CLAIMED. However, he said slower moving
planes flying the star of David studied the ship THIRTEEN times (?) from
06:00 to 12:00, then at 14:00 the ship was attacked by gun boats,
helicopters and jets. They INTENDED to leave NO SURVIVORS but somehow
the ship would not go down even though it was "thrown together" in about
45 days. Someone radioed, "Help is on the way" and the cowards fled.
This ship was protected only by two 50-cal's on the fore and aft of the
ship. The USS Saratoga was supposed to protect it but it's jets were 15
minutes away - and were ORDERED to STAND DOWN!

GET THE BOOK! Dispense with the LIES. :-)

Oh, you were right on the ball. What does the ADL pay you to help to
stomp out the truth? It took less than an hour for you to "detect" and
attempt to "deflect" the truth! :-)

Do "Jews" who benefit so greatly from America's generosity really spit
when they hear the words "Jesus Christ"?

seigezunt July 3rd 05 08:37 PM

ADL? Spit? It astound me that people believe this crap. If you think
the Jewish people are organized enough to run a world-wide conspiracy,
then you need to hit some books other than those printed in Lincoln
Rockwell's basement. ZOG? We can hardly agree on the time of day.

Please. I just made the mistake of calling someone on their Jew-hating
spew. Forgive me my indiscretion about not letting idiocy go
unchallenged. I've learned my lesson.

Lemme guess, by putting "Jews" in quotes, you believe I'm a Khazar? So
you believe the whole kit and kaboodle and the Protocols? Do you hate
blacks and Asians, too?

Time to get some fresh tinfoil for your hat.


Arthur Pozner July 3rd 05 09:00 PM

If the ship was 14 miles off the coast of Sinai it wasn't monitoring
shortwave -- morst likely VHF-UHF .
If not mistaking, the people in charge of giving orders to sink USS
Liberty were facing an investigation comission after the 1973 war and
got fired in 1974.(Not related to 1967 incident). Too late...



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