London Underground explosions
 

Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

Yes, this story emerged around 09:10 UTC. Possibly bombs on the London
Underground and busses too...

Mark.
Auckland
New Zealand.

"CeeTee" wrote in message
...
Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

At least 6 explosions on the subway & one double-decker bus, now CNN
says a number of (3) explosions on buses. Unofficial reports of
unexploded bombs found, but haven't seen verification yet. Lots of
confusion still, even from "official" sources. Are noe admitting
possible terror attack, instead of power surges as claimed in first
reports. All underground/subway trains shut down, as well as busses in
"Zone 1" (some reports now say city wide). Cell phone network has been
shut down (can be used for remote detonation). Live news feeds cutting
off (overload of communication network due to panic?). Land lines also
overloaded having problems. Buckingham Palace sealed off, police on
streets with weapons and rooftops with biniculars. At least 2 confirmed
dead, 90+ casualties. Anyone getting reliable up to date info on SW or
net please advise.

CeeTee wrote:

Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

Hope everyon e in this group's OK.

at 11:20 UTC..

Radio Australia ( 9580 )
said the Communications system ( Cell Phones) was shut off shortly
after this happened..

"Dan" wrote in message
oups.com...

Hope everyon e in this group's OK.

at 11:20 UTC..

Radio Australia ( 9580 )
said the Communications system ( Cell Phones) was shut off shortly
after this happened..


I have a feeling this is NOT an Arab based terrorist attack even though they
claimed they did it. I think this is a Euro anti-gov group protesting the
destruction of the planet's environment and big corporate energy entities.
The fact that this coincides with the G8 tells you a lot.

Hope you guys in the U.K. are OK.
Good luck mates.

Lucky

On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:33:30 +1200, CeeTee wrote:

Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

1) While I was able to listen to BBC Radio 4 (the talk station) on
line with my saved Real Audio .ram file, the normal way to listen is
via a pop up window on their website and I was unable to connect to
their web site.

So for most people, BBC radio on line was NOT reachable.

Here is the pointer for realaudio:

rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra

2) I notice that BBC America, a cable/satellite TV network, seemed to
be running their normal schedule with news at 1000 GMT (6 A.M. EDT)
followed by "Talking Movies" at 1030 GMT and then two more
alternations of news and movies.

Perhaps they should have been more flexible and just stuck with the
news? On the other hand, maybe at this point there isn't that much
news to report.

If you want to see what a bus blown up by terrorists looks like, you
can see a film from the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs at

http://w3.castup.net/mfa/terror.htm

Undoubtedly the most obscene site on the internet, complete with
explicit severed limbs. Not recommended within 12 hours either way of
lunch.

"Joel Rubin" wrote in message
link.net...
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:33:30 +1200, CeeTee wrote:

Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

1) While I was able to listen to BBC Radio 4 (the talk station) on
line with my saved Real Audio .ram file, the normal way to listen is
via a pop up window on their website and I was unable to connect to
their web site.

So for most people, BBC radio on line was NOT reachable.

Here is the pointer for realaudio:

rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra

2) I notice that BBC America, a cable/satellite TV network, seemed to
be running their normal schedule with news at 1000 GMT (6 A.M. EDT)
followed by "Talking Movies" at 1030 GMT and then two more
alternations of news and movies.

Perhaps they should have been more flexible and just stuck with the
news? On the other hand, maybe at this point there isn't that much
news to report.


BBC World coming through live here on XM radio.

"FDR" wrote in message BBC World
coming through live here on XM radio.



That's not shortwave. You do know what shortwave is? Don't you?

B.H.

I (and I'm sure others) have found time and time again that webfeeds of
various broadcasters fail, when listening counts most --- during a
national emergency. Being able to quickly scale up to handle a large
number of listeners is very important. Of course, shortwave doesn't
have such fan-out issues...

I tried both the BBC website and the URL you listed to no avail.

Joel Rubin wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:33:30 +1200, CeeTee wrote:

Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

1) While I was able to listen to BBC Radio 4 (the talk station) on
line with my saved Real Audio .ram file, the normal way to listen is
via a pop up window on their website and I was unable to connect to
their web site.

So for most people, BBC radio on line was NOT reachable.

Here is the pointer for realaudio:

rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"FDR" wrote in message BBC World
coming through live here on XM radio.



That's not shortwave. You do know what shortwave is? Don't you?

Yes I do sir!


B.H.

"CeeTee" wrote in message
...
Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

It should be rather curious to see, if with all the surveillance cameras
in and around London, they managed to capture any of the bomb
susbects from the North London Central Mosque in Finsbury Park
on video. Abu Hamza must be whacking off right about
now with much happiness..?

The UK National ID Card: http://eclectech.co.uk/clarkeidcards.php

The best description however I've seen
in an 'adjacent' newsgroup was this true gem of wisdom:

(to quote)

"Semolina Pilchard" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:23:22 -0400, Justme®
wrote:

6 explosions, 2 confirmed dead so far, about 90 injured.

A mere minor annoyance. If that's the best Al Quaida can do they're
in need of further lessons from the IRA.

Of course the real source of the problem is (a) the stupidity of
holding the G8 summit here and (b) moving every breathing policeman to
the vicinity of Gleneagles to protect these pampered worthless ****s -
and then telling every **** what they're doing.

It's a sure sign of a senior policeman or a top-ranking politician
that they cannot deal with more than one idea at a time.

I suggest that now that they've made summits such a ****ing circus
that they attract terrorists like ****e attracts flies, that they
should hold the next one at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Without life support.

If our terminally stupid leaders had concentrated on dealing with
terrorism instead of having oil adventures in Iraq, we'd have been on
top of this nonsense long ago. Each and every one of the ****ers
should be broken on the wheel on prime time television.
--
Sem

I heard about it at 4:40 AM this morning when I switched on my radio and
then at Fox news on tv.My heart goes out to those inoncent people over
there.
cuhulin

wrote in message
...
I heard about it at 4:40 AM this morning when I switched on my radio and
then at Fox news on tv.My heart goes out to those inoncent people over
there.

Lying mother ****er. However unlikely, what if it turns out to have been an
IRA attack? The dead are Brit's, remember?

"The brits have NO!!! right to
ANYTHING!!! AT ALL!!! I am Schtottch Eyrie by Ancestry and I Say,the
only good brit is a DEAD brit!!!! GO IRA,GO!"

Sound familiar, ****wit? You've said it often enough.

wrote:

I (and I'm sure others) have found time and time again that webfeeds of
various broadcasters fail, when listening counts most --- during a
national emergency. Being able to quickly scale up to handle a large
number of listeners is very important. Of course, shortwave doesn't
have such fan-out issues...

I tried both the BBC website and the URL you listed to no avail.

There's a report in this thread that the phone system was shut down,
since cell phones are used as detonator timers. If the internet lines
were shut down, that would explain why BBC online was unreachable. Maybe
after having four bombs go off in central London near Bush House, BBC
management will start beefing up shortwave BBCWS and other over the air
BBC services? I hope they're getting a firsthand lesson on how
unreliable their much vaunted internet technology is when it's needed
most. It's hard to believe that the original purpose of the internet was
to create a communication network capable of surviving a nuclear war. A
few guys with bombs can overload it. Imagine what blowing up the
buildings housing the root servers could do.


Joel Rubin wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:33:30 +1200, CeeTee wrote:

Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

1) While I was able to listen to BBC Radio 4 (the talk station) on
line with my saved Real Audio .ram file, the normal way to listen is
via a pop up window on their website and I was unable to connect to
their web site.

So for most people, BBC radio on line was NOT reachable.

Here is the pointer for realaudio:

rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio4/live/r4_dsat_g2.ra



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"running dogg" wrote

There's a report in this thread that the phone system was shut down,
since cell phones are used as detonator timers.

Cell phones systems can be "shutdown" independant of landline phone systems
if that is so desired.

If the internet lines
were shut down, that would explain why BBC online was unreachable.

It is more likely that they were simply overwhelmed.

Maybe
after having four bombs go off in central London near Bush House, BBC
management will start beefing up shortwave BBCWS and other over the air
BBC services? I hope they're getting a firsthand lesson on how
unreliable their much vaunted internet technology is when it's needed
most.

A few more disasteroius incidents like this should make them come around if
they have any sense at all.

It's hard to believe that the original purpose of the internet was
to create a communication network capable of surviving a nuclear war. A
few guys with bombs can overload it. Imagine what blowing up the
buildings housing the root servers could do.

The TCP/IP network is the most robust communications network in wide use
today.
It was designed to be able to automatically route traffic around "damaged"
fabric. If
servers need to be "bomb proof" they are mirrored and located at
geographically
diverse locations so that if one server takes a hit the other(s) will
survive. That is the
idea. Whether or not the now "public" non-military internet practices such
mission
critical diversity is another matter.

Apologies if anyone was offended by my quoting the above musings from
another NG. No bad intent was meant or implied as it is an example of
x-treme sarcasm which I recognized and read which others obviously do
not. (just try and not take things so seriously just like that which is
spoken on shortwave on a daily basis) ;)

Roger - High Epopt 58=B0
Church Of The Holy Bowlsplash
Keeper of the Sacred Rubber Flappervalve of Planet-X (Made in China)


Church of The Holy Bowlsplash wrote:
"CeeTee" wrote in message
...
Just reported, many explosions happening, more to follow..

It should be rather curious to see, if with all the surveillance cameras
in and around London, they managed to capture any of the bomb
susbects from the North London Central Mosque in Finsbury Park
on video. Abu Hamza must be whacking off right about
now with much happiness..?

The UK National ID Card: http://eclectech.co.uk/clarkeidcards.php

The best description however I've seen
in an 'adjacent' newsgroup was this true gem of wisdom:

(to quote)

"Semolina Pilchard" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:23:22 -0400, Justme=AE
wrote:

6 explosions, 2 confirmed dead so far, about 90 injured.

A mere minor annoyance. If that's the best Al Quaida can do they're
in need of further lessons from the IRA.

Of course the real source of the problem is (a) the stupidity of
holding the G8 summit here and (b) moving every breathing policeman to
the vicinity of Gleneagles to protect these pampered worthless ****s -
and then telling every **** what they're doing.

It's a sure sign of a senior policeman or a top-ranking politician
that they cannot deal with more than one idea at a time.

I suggest that now that they've made summits such a ****ing circus
that they attract terrorists like ****e attracts flies, that they
should hold the next one at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Without life support.

If our terminally stupid leaders had concentrated on dealing with
terrorism instead of having oil adventures in Iraq, we'd have been on
top of this nonsense long ago. Each and every one of the ****ers
should be broken on the wheel on prime time television.
--=20
Sem

Panopticon wrote:

"running dogg" wrote

There's a report in this thread that the phone system was shut down,
since cell phones are used as detonator timers.

Cell phones systems can be "shutdown" independant of landline phone systems
if that is so desired.

If the internet lines
were shut down, that would explain why BBC online was unreachable.

It is more likely that they were simply overwhelmed.

Hey, I was just throwing out a theory. Your idea is better though, the
always ubiquitous gremlin of "net congestion". Net congestion happens
all the time on normal days. Of course, if your connection suffers from
net congestion, your feed will abruptly cut off for "buffering" and/or
it will gradually degrade until it starts sounding like BBs rattling
around in a soup can. In the worst case scenario, the feed will simply
shut down and refuse to function completely. Over the air radio doesn't
have these problems, of course.

Maybe
after having four bombs go off in central London near Bush House, BBC
management will start beefing up shortwave BBCWS and other over the air
BBC services? I hope they're getting a firsthand lesson on how
unreliable their much vaunted internet technology is when it's needed
most.

A few more disasteroius incidents like this should make them come around if
they have any sense at all.

A very big if. BBC suits have shown absolutely no glimmer of sense.
Neither has the VOA, which is run by a guy who thinks that Eminem can
win the war on terror. The utter failure of Sawa/Farda in preventing
terror attacks should be enough reason to can Pattiz.

It's hard to believe that the original purpose of the internet was
to create a communication network capable of surviving a nuclear war. A
few guys with bombs can overload it. Imagine what blowing up the
buildings housing the root servers could do.

The TCP/IP network is the most robust communications network in wide use
today.
It was designed to be able to automatically route traffic around "damaged"
fabric. If
servers need to be "bomb proof" they are mirrored and located at
geographically
diverse locations so that if one server takes a hit the other(s) will
survive. That is the
idea. Whether or not the now "public" non-military internet practices such
mission
critical diversity is another matter.

Your robust communications network may work fine overall, but if too
many people try jamming on to one site that area quickly goes down. The
network is only as robust as the servers which comprise it, and those
servers keep going down in times of greatest need. Radio Australia's
webfeed went down after the tsunami hit, and RA was playing cricket
matches as the horror unfolded.


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"running dogg" wrote
If the internet lines
were shut down, that would explain why BBC online was unreachable.

It is more likely that they were simply overwhelmed.

Hey, I was just throwing out a theory. Your idea is better though, the
always ubiquitous gremlin of "net congestion". Net congestion happens
all the time on normal days. Of course, if your connection suffers from
net congestion, your feed will abruptly cut off for "buffering" and/or
it will gradually degrade until it starts sounding like BBs rattling
around in a soup can. In the worst case scenario, the feed will simply
shut down and refuse to function completely. Over the air radio doesn't
have these problems, of course.

It may not neccessarilly have been net congestion, although it likely
contributed.
The server may have simply run out of available "sockets" from so many
requests. In which
case you won't be able to make any connection. It is somewhat akin to
repeatedly
dialing a call-in telephone number where there are only 10 lines available
and 1000
persons are calling. Everyone can get a dialtone to dial the number but
the other end doesn't have enough incoming lines - busy signal.


The TCP/IP network is the most robust communications network in wide use
today.
It was designed to be able to automatically route traffic around
"damaged"
fabric. If
servers need to be "bomb proof" they are mirrored and located at
geographically
diverse locations so that if one server takes a hit the other(s) will
survive. That is the
idea. Whether or not the now "public" non-military internet practices
such
mission
critical diversity is another matter.

Your robust communications network may work fine overall, but if too
many people try jamming on to one site that area quickly goes down.
The
network is only as robust as the servers which comprise it, and those
servers keep going down in times of greatest need. Radio Australia's
webfeed went down after the tsunami hit, and RA was playing cricket
matches as the horror unfolded.

See my "sockets" explaination above. It would require one hell of a lot of
users attempting a simple "connect" to jam up the internet. The bandwidth
required
for a single users' browser to request a simple connect is smaller than
miniscule.
Consider NASA's web site on July 4th with 1 billion requests - a record!
Server survived and
people were served. Plenty of internet bandwidth and robustness. What is
important
is the servers' capability and its subscribed bandwidth to its internet
provider. Once the
"packets" reach the internet backbone its whoooooosh - light speed baby!

Article at www.homelandsecurityus.com Report: One UK Bomber Was
Recent Gitmo Release.Real nice,eh? Release them so they can do it again.
cuhulin

The internet highway.When it bogs down too much,just too hard to merge.
cuhulin

wrote in message
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Article at www.homelandsecurityus.com Report: One UK Bomber Was
Recent Gitmo Release.Real nice,eh? Release them so they can do it again.
cuhulin


You're right. They should have been charged and had a trial and sent to
jail. Oh wait, they didn't. I wonder why if they are guilty?

"Honus" wrote in message

Lying mother ****er. However unlikely, what if it turns out to have been
an
IRA attack? The dead are Brit's, remember?

"The brits have NO!!! right to
ANYTHING!!! AT ALL!!! I am Schtottch Eyrie by Ancestry and I Say,the
only good brit is a DEAD brit!!!! GO IRA,GO!"

Sound familiar, ****wit? You've said it often enough.



Gee Honus. Take it easy.

B.H.

Governor Hayley Barbour has declared a state of emergency.To HELL with
London and limeyland!!!!
cuhulin

I am Scotch Irish by ancestry.I HATE all brits! Sue Me!
cuhulin

You don't understand,Honus.Yes,I want brit govt out of Ireland,but not
by wrent of terrorism.The Pen is mightier than the Sword.And Derry is
Derry.
cuhulin

I happily say it again.GO IRA GO!
cuhulin

FDR,I am always right.Even when I am wrong,I am right.Keep on
truckin,brother.
cuhulin

Married Irish woman,she lives in Bognor Regis,England (about sixty five
miles South/Southwest of London) with her Irish hubby www.fethard.com
I emailed her ass at about 5:00 AM yesterday morning.She better up and
say something to me!
cuhulin

Maggie

I suspect bush and blair in that London stuff.
cuhulin

bush was leaning so far over in London,he was about to bust his bicycle
nose again.Then,they went back to Glen Eagles and started sucking each
other off again.
cuhulin

wrote in message
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FDR,I am always right.Even when I am wrong,I am right.Keep on
truckin,brother.
cuhulin


Gotcha good buddy.

wrote in message
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I am Scotch Irish by ancestry.I HATE all brits! Sue Me!
cuhulin



I'm Irish, Fin, German, Cherokee Indian and something else I can;t remember,
hum??? BFD!!!!!

B.H.

wrote in message
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Article at www.homelandsecurityus.com Report: One UK Bomber Was
Recent Gitmo Release.Real nice,eh? Release them so they can do it again.
cuhulin

Link doesn't come up here at all..

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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I am Scotch Irish by ancestry.I HATE all brits! Sue Me!
cuhulin



I'm Irish, Fin, German, Cherokee Indian and something else I can;t
remember,
hum??? BFD!!!!!

B.H.

As I understood in geography class in jr. high, it seems to me that English,
Scots and Irish were all British, and that the Scots and Irish tended to
distinguish themselves from the English. And then there were the Welsh.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Article at www.homelandsecurityus.com Report: One UK Bomber Was
Recent Gitmo Release.Real nice,eh? Release them so they can do it
again.
cuhulin

Link doesn't come up here at all..

Damn Al Queda strikes again.

"Brian Hill" wrote in message
...

"Honus" wrote in message

Lying mother ****er. However unlikely, what if it turns out to have been
an
IRA attack? The dead are Brit's, remember?

"The brits have NO!!! right to
ANYTHING!!! AT ALL!!! I am Schtottch Eyrie by Ancestry and I Say,the
only good brit is a DEAD brit!!!! GO IRA,GO!"

Sound familiar, ****wit? You've said it often enough.



Gee Honus. Take it easy.

Why?

wrote in message
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I happily say it again.GO IRA GO!

They're terrorists. They kill civilians, including children. And you support
them.

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/ira.htm

"IRA traditional activities have included bombings, assassinations,
kidnappings, punishment beatings, extortion, smuggling, and robberies.
Before the cease-fire in 1997, bombing campaigns had been conducted on
various targets in Northern Ireland and Great Britain and included senior
British Government officials, civilians, police, and British military
targets. In October 2003, the IRA conducted a third act of arms
decommissioning that the Independent International Commission on
Decommissioning (IICD) called "considerably larger" than the previous IRA
move. The group disposed of light, medium, and heavy weapons, ammunition,
and explosives. The IRA retains the ability to conduct paramilitary
operations. The IRA's extensive criminal activities reportedly provide the
organizations with millions of dollars each year."

wrote in message
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You don't understand,Honus.Yes,I want brit govt out of Ireland,

Which I have no problem with.

but not
by wrent of terrorism.

You know -nothing- of the IRA, then. Educate yourself.