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David July 26th 05 04:29 PM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:18:05 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:32:53 GMT, David wrote:

Are you a Dominionist?


No, I don't see the need for a human of a sound mind to subscribe to
any religion at all. (Sadly, unlike most; including yourself, it
would seem.) I rely solely on reason, logic and the scientific
method. You might perhaps say that I am an objectivist.

Peter Newman

http://www.thomhartmann.com/deathof.shtml


[email protected] July 26th 05 04:47 PM

I am the true Prophet.Now,prop y'alls selfs up and listen to
me.Haw,Haw,Haw!
cuhulin


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dxAce July 26th 05 05:12 PM



Mark Zenier wrote:

In article ,
running dogg wrote:

Sudan is run by Muslims, mostly of Arab descent. There are Christians in
Sudan, but they're an oppressed minority, as are the blacks (as opposed
to the Arabs, who run things). The people in Darfur who have been
subjected to genocide by Arab Muslims are Black Christians. The Arab


No, both sides in Dafur are Muslims. It's between the Arab pastoralists
raising their livestock, and the African farmers.


Military regimes favoring Islamic-oriented governments have
dominated national politics since independence from the UK in
1956. Sudan has been embroiled in a civil war for all but 10
years since then. The war is rooted in northern economic,
political, and social domination of non-Muslim, non-Arab
southern Sudanese. Since 1983, the war and war- and
famine-related effects have resulted in more than 2 million
deaths and over 4 million people displaced. The ruling regime
is
a mixture of military elite and an Islamist party that came to

power in a 1989 coup. Some northern opposition parties have
made common cause with the southern rebels and entered the
war as part of an anti-government alliance. Peace talks gained

momentum in 2002-03 with the signing of several accords,
including a cease-fire agreement.

From: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/su.html

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




running dogg July 26th 05 05:45 PM

Peter Newman wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:32:53 GMT, David wrote:

Are you a Dominionist?


No, I don't see the need for a human of a sound mind to subscribe to
any religion at all. (Sadly, unlike most; including yourself, it
would seem.) I rely solely on reason, logic and the scientific
method. You might perhaps say that I am an objectivist.


An Objectivist, meaning a follower of Ayn Rand? Or merely a secular
humanist?


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David July 26th 05 06:26 PM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:45:02 -0700, running dogg wrote:

Peter Newman wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:32:53 GMT, David wrote:

Are you a Dominionist?


No, I don't see the need for a human of a sound mind to subscribe to
any religion at all. (Sadly, unlike most; including yourself, it
would seem.) I rely solely on reason, logic and the scientific
method. You might perhaps say that I am an objectivist.


An Objectivist, meaning a follower of Ayn Rand? Or merely a secular
humanist?


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the roof and you can't get it down.
--Alice Cooper


dxAce July 26th 05 06:31 PM



David wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:45:02 -0700, running dogg wrote:

Peter Newman wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:32:53 GMT, David wrote:

Are you a Dominionist?

No, I don't see the need for a human of a sound mind to subscribe to
any religion at all. (Sadly, unlike most; including yourself, it
would seem.) I rely solely on reason, logic and the scientific
method. You might perhaps say that I am an objectivist.


An Objectivist, meaning a follower of Ayn Rand? Or merely a secular
humanist?


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I'm a Frisbeetarian. We believe that when you die your soul lands on
the roof and you can't get it down.
--Alice Cooper


Isn't that what already happened to your brain, 'tard boy?

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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RHF July 26th 05 08:10 PM

DaviD - And 'you' would Know !
{ Ah an Expert Opinion } ~ RHF
. . . . .


Brian Hill July 26th 05 10:53 PM


"David" wrote in message

You are living in a fantasy construct.



And you need to be hit over the head with dried up dog turd.

B.H.



Peter Newman July 26th 05 11:43 PM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:29:28 GMT, David wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:18:05 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:32:53 GMT, David wrote:

Are you a Dominionist?


No, I don't see the need for a human of a sound mind to subscribe to
any religion at all. (Sadly, unlike most; including yourself, it
would seem.) I rely solely on reason, logic and the scientific
method. You might perhaps say that I am an objectivist.

Peter Newman

http://www.thomhartmann.com/deathof.shtml


I don't see why I should even bother answering an article that starts
with a quote of Karl Marx! Anything this man has every said has been
discredited in practice, and millions of people suffered in the
process. Anyone who still seriously believes in the dead horse of
Marxism has no brain left.

Let me remind you that I started this thread with Churchill's comments
about Islam. You then retorted with a derisive statement of "crazy
white men", presumably in defence of Islam. Now you turned to dying
trees and environmentalism. Just another convenient way to badmouth
those "crazy white men" who brought us the very civilization that
feeds you and that you just love to despise, right?

You should really look into the mirror and admit to yourself frankly
why you hate civilization so much. You feel left a bit behind, don't
you? Some deep-seated inferioity complex perhaps?

Ah, about those dying trees, all you romantic tree huggers should read
this: http://www.lomborg.com/books.htm
(But I don't really expect you to believe it - of course, it was
written by a white guy.)

Peter Newman


David July 26th 05 11:46 PM

On 26 Jul 2005 22:57:42 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:


On Tue 26 Jul 2005 08:09:33a, (Peter Newman) wrote in
message news:42e622f3.3803171@news-server:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:47:48 GMT, David wrote:

{snippage}

You are living in a fantasy construct.


It would have been enough to say simply "you are living in a fantasy",
or "you are living in a fantasy world". But you just had to use the
oh-so-fashionable (in the leftie world) word "construct", didn't you.
It makes you look oh-so-smart!

I guess it's OK if you are content to *look* smart instead of *be*
smart.



Everyone comes to that conclusion about rickets, usually within two, or at
most three posts. Your tolerance for utter B.S. is admirable!


-=jd=-

I had no idea it was a ''leftie'' word. Excuse me for my verbal
precisilon. Fascists don't like people with brains.


David July 27th 05 12:22 AM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:43:23 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I don't see why I should even bother answering an article that starts
with a quote of Karl Marx! Anything this man has every said has been
discredited in practice, and millions of people suffered in the
process. Anyone who still seriously believes in the dead horse of
Marxism has no brain left.

Let me remind you that I started this thread with Churchill's comments
about Islam. You then retorted with a derisive statement of "crazy
white men", presumably in defence of Islam.


You go to war to secure the instrument of your demise (petroleum).
That's pretty wack.

Now you turned to dying
trees and environmentalism. Just another convenient way to badmouth
those "crazy white men" who brought us the very civilization that
feeds you and that you just love to despise, right?


You call this a hot-dog?

You should really look into the mirror and admit to yourself frankly
why you hate civilization so much. You feel left a bit behind, don't
you? Some deep-seated inferioity complex perhaps?


More of a love/hate relationship with ''civilization'' as you call it.

Ah, about those dying trees, all you romantic tree huggers should read
this:
http://www.lomborg.com/books.htm
(But I don't really expect you to believe it - of course, it was
written by a white guy.)

Peter Newman



''The Future
The deforestation of tropical rain forests is a threat to life
worldwide. Deforestation may have profound effects on global climate
and cause the extinction of thousands of species annually.''

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Lib...station_4.html

Written by our best scientific minds.





m II July 27th 05 05:33 AM

wrote:

Winston Churchill was part American,sort of.His mother was born in
America.



http://www.google.ca/search?q=church... &sa=N&tab=iw


http://www.goldismoney.info/forums/s...ad.php?t=21640

[email protected] July 27th 05 06:18 AM

Most of that is old hat to me.The brits don't know the truth about the
REAL british monarchy.
cuhulin


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Peter Newman July 27th 05 04:42 PM

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:22:21 GMT, David wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:43:23 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I don't see why I should even bother answering an article that starts
with a quote of Karl Marx! Anything this man has every said has been
discredited in practice, and millions of people suffered in the
process. Anyone who still seriously believes in the dead horse of
Marxism has no brain left.


#1:

Let me remind you that I started this thread with Churchill's comments
about Islam. You then retorted with a derisive statement of "crazy
white men", presumably in defence of Islam.


You go to war to secure the instrument of your demise (petroleum).
That's pretty wack.


Go back to point #1 above. What you replied makes no sense whatsover
in the context of this discussion: I did not go to any war for
petroleum, and petroleum is certainly not an instrument of my demise.
If you meant to say that the US (or all "crazy white men"?), then
exactly the same applies.

Let me also suggest that you stop driving a car, don't use any public
transport, immediately switch off any electrical appliances in your
home, including your computer.

I wonder where you live. I bet you live somewhere where you don't have
to work too hard, thanks to the very civilization that you hate so
much. You know what? You are simply bored. Move somewhere where you
will need to work really hard in order to be able to eat and have a
decent roof above your head. Then you will see things from a different
perspective and take fewer things for granted.

#2:

Now you turned to dying
trees and environmentalism. Just another convenient way to badmouth
those "crazy white men" who brought us the very civilization that
feeds you and that you just love to despise, right?


You call this a hot-dog?


You don't make sense. Go back to #2 above and then switch on your
brain.

You should really look into the mirror and admit to yourself frankly
why you hate civilization so much. You feel left a bit behind, don't
you? Some deep-seated inferioity complex perhaps?


More of a love/hate relationship with ''civilization'' as you call it.


Time to make an appointment with a psychiatrist as soon as possible.

Ah, about those dying trees, all you romantic tree huggers should read
this:
http://www.lomborg.com/books.htm
(But I don't really expect you to believe it - of course, it was
written by a white guy.)


''The Future
The deforestation of tropical rain forests is a threat to life
worldwide. Deforestation may have profound effects on global climate
and cause the extinction of thousands of species annually.''

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Lib...station_4.html

Written by our best scientific minds.


Says someone who really desperately *wants* to believe this
politically correct crap. You are simply seeking justification for
your anger and hatred, whose real reason is your very own inferiority
complex - just be a man and admit it to yourself.

Buy the Lomborg book and get the *real* story, from a *real*
scientist. I promise this will be an eye opener for you. But I guess
you don't really want to open your eyes, do you. You like it better
this way - the more alarmist, the more apocalyptic, the more proving
of your "crazy white men" crap, then the better it feels, because you
just like to wallow in that negativity, like a pig in ****, don't you!

I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.


Peter Newman



Peter Newman July 27th 05 04:54 PM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:34:57 GMT, David wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:42:21 -0500, wrote:

Throwing money and food to other countries,some countries,results in the
rulers of those countries siphoning off the food and money for things
that does not help those countries.
cuhulin

Mr. Bono circumvents the corrupt state authorities by using NGOs to
administer the help.


Firstly, in a thoroughly corrupt country (like most countries in
Africa are), corruption is a way of life, hence even NGOs will be, and
indeed are, corrupt and inefficient - they are not staffed with
angels, but with real, local people.

But this is not the most important point. The main point is that
throwing money to the poor has never made them rich in the long term.
It just makes the situation worse by making them dependent on
handouts. To make them truly independent and thus conquer poverty, you
need to get the economy going and teach the people how to fend for
themselves. But in order to get economy going, you need to have a
legal system and a law obiding society.

In most African countries where you have violent thugs running
berserk, corrupt governments, inefficient legal system and law
enforcement, you can't start a business and no sensible foreign
company will invest there either. And that's precisely why there is
poverty in Africa.

Peter Newman


David July 27th 05 04:56 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:42:19 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.


I say crazy white people are the reason the Muslims are ****ed. Who
gives the English the right to steal the Arab's oil?

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg


[email protected] July 27th 05 04:59 PM

War or no war,even in peacetime,U.S.A.MUST make sure U.S.A.has enough
oil.
cuhulin


Peter Newman July 27th 05 05:00 PM

On 26 Jul 2005 22:57:42 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote:

On Tue 26 Jul 2005 08:09:33a, (Peter Newman) wrote in
message news:42e622f3.3803171@news-server:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:47:48 GMT, David wrote:

{snippage}

You are living in a fantasy construct.


It would have been enough to say simply "you are living in a fantasy",
or "you are living in a fantasy world". But you just had to use the
oh-so-fashionable (in the leftie world) word "construct", didn't you.
It makes you look oh-so-smart!

I guess it's OK if you are content to *look* smart instead of *be*
smart.



Everyone comes to that conclusion about rickets, usually within two, or at
most three posts. Your tolerance for utter B.S. is admirable!


Thanks. I am actually known by my friends for my patience. :-)
I can see a good potential in every human being. I think David also
has a fairly good potential - but he does lack insight, information
and experience. If he is, say, 18 years old, then all this would be
understandable. If he is 30, then you are right, he would be a truly
hopeless case.

Peter Newman



Peter Newman July 27th 05 05:15 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:56:32 GMT, David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:42:19 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.


I say crazy white people are the reason the Muslims are ****ed.


The Muslims are not ****ed because of "crazy white people". They are
****ed with any of their neighbours regardless of colour, Indonesia,
Phillippines, Thailand, Sudan, etc. And Sunnis are ****ed with
Shiites. Islam's borders are bloody everywhere. Muslims are ****ed
precisely because their religion is making them so. But of course, you
like to blame the "crazy white man" for everything don't you. Makes
you feel oh so-o-o good!

Who gives the English the right to steal the Arab's oil?


What are you talking about? Are the English stealing the Arab's oil?
Where exactly? What a load of rubbish. As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.


Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

He said the Kyoto Protocol would cost billions, even trillions, of
dollars and would have a devastating effect on the economies of
countries that signed it. "It will deliver no significant cooling -
less than 0.02 degrees Celsius by 2050," he said.

"The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been
the main scaremonger for the global warming lobby . . . Fatally, the
IPCC is a political, not a scientific body."

To understand climate change, it was necessary to look at the longer
record, he said.

Through an examination of material taken from deep below the ocean
floor, marine geologists could study layers of earth's history similar
to the way a tree's age could be determined by tree rings.

"We are in a relatively warm period today," he said. "But 20,000 years
ago, it was as cold as it has ever been - that was the peak of the
last glaciation."

Professor Carter said that over 2.5 million years there had been 50
glacial and interglacial periods. Of the past 400,000 years, the earth
had been colder for 90 per cent of the time, with briefer warmer
periods of about 10,000 years.

He said the earth was now at the end of a warmer period, and reputable
climate-change scientists agreed that the climate was going to get
colder. The debate was whether it would take tens, hundreds or even
thousands of years to occur.

On a shorter time scale, Professor Carter said the earth had broadly
got warmer in the modern period, from 1860 to 2000, although it had
also been warmer in Roman and medieval times. There had also been a
Little Ice Age between 1550 and the 19th century, when the Thames used
to freeze over.

A cooling trend took place between 1940 and 1970, when temperatures
began to rise again, reaching a peak in 1998. "This coincided with the
biggest El Nino in the 20th century," he said.

However, research by the climate research unit at East Anglia
University in Britain had shown that the average global temperature
had declined since 1998.

Professor Carter said greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide were not
causing the earth to warm up. On both annual and geological (up to
100,000-year) time scales, changes in temperature preceded changes in
carbon dioxide, he said. This was true even in the famous 1960-1991
graph showing rising amounts of carbon dioxide.

Professor Carter said that without the natural greenhouse effect, the
average earth temperature would be minus 18 degrees Celsius, compared
with the average of plus 15 Celsius that had nurtured the development
of life and civilisation.

Water vapour made up about 95 per cent of the greenhouse effect.

Carbon dioxide was a minor greenhouse gas, responsible for 3.6 per
cent of the total greenhouse effect, he said. Of this, only 0.12 per
cent, or 0.036 degrees Celsius, could be attributed to human activity.

Climate had always changed and "always will", he said. "The only
sensible thing to do about climate change is to prepare for it."


David July 27th 05 05:40 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:15:27 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:

As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.


WRONG! We prop up dictators who do not share the bounty with the
people.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?

\
That probably would have worked-out better

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.


Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

Nationalist Socialist Fascist Corporatist Rich ****s Rule

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

http://planetforlife.com/gwarm/glob1000.html


Blame it on the moo cows, then.

You're going down, Whitey.


[email protected] July 27th 05 05:41 PM

Jon Rappaport's article,What They Are Messing With,at
www.nomorefakenews.com A lot of folks nowdays don't know what FREEDOM
is and why FREEDOM is so important and why some folks fight and die for
FREEDOM.FREEDOM has become an ugly word in govts all over the
World,including U.S.fed govt.
cuhulin


David July 27th 05 05:42 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:54:41 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


In most African countries where you have violent thugs running
berserk, corrupt governments, inefficient legal system and law
enforcement, you can't start a business and no sensible foreign
company will invest there either. And that's precisely why there is
poverty in Africa.

Peter Newman

So why'd we invade Iraq?


[email protected] July 27th 05 05:53 PM

Long ago (according to Bob Vila,the home remodeling guy for Sears
Craftsman tools) when Georgians started moving into Florida,of course
they took their cattle and livestock with them.About the same thing as
the old western cattledrives.They used their whips to make cracking
noises to keep them moving along and that is why they were called
crackers.It makes plenty of sense to me.I rather be a cracker than a
rickets anyday.
cuhulin


[email protected] July 27th 05 06:07 PM

It is the "crazy white men" (I am not racist,there are a lot of other
people of color whom are very smart too) who maintain and keep those oil
wells going.The ragheads (not confusing India with ragheads,they are
smart too) can't keep those oil wells going by themselves.I noticed oil
is about $60.00 per barrel nowdays.If we are stealing their oil,why is
it I paid $31.00 and pocket change yesterday afternoon to fill my car's
tank up with gasoline to the tune of $2.07.9 at the MurphyUSA gas
station? Gasoline should be dirt cheap if we are stealing their oil.I am
heading on over to the Goodwill store now to see what kind of junk I
don't need,(and flirt with the women over there too) might as well burn
a little of that oil I bought yesterday.That married Irish woman wayyyy
over yonder across the big pond tells me,Larry,you don't need any more
junk!
cuhulin



John Smith July 27th 05 06:15 PM

It is obvious, the middle east countries have the largest WMD which has ever
existed, it is also a "natural" one--oil.

They can simply bring us to our knees by refusing to sell it to us, or
demanding a thousand dollars a barrel.

It is self-evident!

John

"Peter Newman" wrote in message
news:42e7afbe.5425046@news-server...
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:56:32 GMT, David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:42:19 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:


I started this thread talking about Muslims. But you are talking about
deforestation. I guess you don't realize that by desperately searching
for any suitable negative subject to justify your initial "crazy white
men" outburst, you are precisely confirming what I am saying - you are
entirely messed up. I hope it is not too late for you. You *can* fix
your brain up, but first you do need to be honest to yourself.


I say crazy white people are the reason the Muslims are ****ed.


The Muslims are not ****ed because of "crazy white people". They are
****ed with any of their neighbours regardless of colour, Indonesia,
Phillippines, Thailand, Sudan, etc. And Sunnis are ****ed with
Shiites. Islam's borders are bloody everywhere. Muslims are ****ed
precisely because their religion is making them so. But of course, you
like to blame the "crazy white man" for everything don't you. Makes
you feel oh so-o-o good!

Who gives the English the right to steal the Arab's oil?


What are you talking about? Are the English stealing the Arab's oil?
Where exactly? What a load of rubbish. As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.


Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

He said the Kyoto Protocol would cost billions, even trillions, of
dollars and would have a devastating effect on the economies of
countries that signed it. "It will deliver no significant cooling -
less than 0.02 degrees Celsius by 2050," he said.

"The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has been
the main scaremonger for the global warming lobby . . . Fatally, the
IPCC is a political, not a scientific body."

To understand climate change, it was necessary to look at the longer
record, he said.

Through an examination of material taken from deep below the ocean
floor, marine geologists could study layers of earth's history similar
to the way a tree's age could be determined by tree rings.

"We are in a relatively warm period today," he said. "But 20,000 years
ago, it was as cold as it has ever been - that was the peak of the
last glaciation."

Professor Carter said that over 2.5 million years there had been 50
glacial and interglacial periods. Of the past 400,000 years, the earth
had been colder for 90 per cent of the time, with briefer warmer
periods of about 10,000 years.

He said the earth was now at the end of a warmer period, and reputable
climate-change scientists agreed that the climate was going to get
colder. The debate was whether it would take tens, hundreds or even
thousands of years to occur.

On a shorter time scale, Professor Carter said the earth had broadly
got warmer in the modern period, from 1860 to 2000, although it had
also been warmer in Roman and medieval times. There had also been a
Little Ice Age between 1550 and the 19th century, when the Thames used
to freeze over.

A cooling trend took place between 1940 and 1970, when temperatures
began to rise again, reaching a peak in 1998. "This coincided with the
biggest El Nino in the 20th century," he said.

However, research by the climate research unit at East Anglia
University in Britain had shown that the average global temperature
had declined since 1998.

Professor Carter said greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide were not
causing the earth to warm up. On both annual and geological (up to
100,000-year) time scales, changes in temperature preceded changes in
carbon dioxide, he said. This was true even in the famous 1960-1991
graph showing rising amounts of carbon dioxide.

Professor Carter said that without the natural greenhouse effect, the
average earth temperature would be minus 18 degrees Celsius, compared
with the average of plus 15 Celsius that had nurtured the development
of life and civilisation.

Water vapour made up about 95 per cent of the greenhouse effect.

Carbon dioxide was a minor greenhouse gas, responsible for 3.6 per
cent of the total greenhouse effect, he said. Of this, only 0.12 per
cent, or 0.036 degrees Celsius, could be attributed to human activity.

Climate had always changed and "always will", he said. "The only
sensible thing to do about climate change is to prepare for it."




dxAce July 27th 05 06:34 PM



David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:15:27 GMT, (Peter Newman)
wrote:

As far as I know, the world
(including the English) are *buying* oil from the Arabs. For high
prices. And the Arabs, instead of them using their fortune wisely, are
mostly wasting it.


WRONG! We prop up dictators who do not share the bounty with the
people.

And don't you realize that without these "crazy white men", the Arabs
would not even know that oil exists and what to do with it?

\
That probably would have worked-out better

But I was especially angry that Geoge Bush appointed another Howdy
Doodie looking cracker for the Supreme Nazi Court.


Frankly, I don't think you truly understand what "Nazi" means. I wish
you had to spend just one day under a real Nazi regime, to start fully
appreciating the society you have the priviledge living in. (Which
many other people would kill for, and which you don't deserve.)

Nationalist Socialist Fascist Corporatist Rich ****s Rule

In a Nazi society, you would go to a concentration camp for just
speaking against it. You really have no idea what you are talking
about.

http://www.esr.org/outreach/climate_...t/co2_temp.jpg

Global warming cyclical, says climate expert
By Philip Hopkins
June 13, 2005

Carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas and has helped produce the "green"
world agricultural revolution, according to an Australian climate
expert.

Rob Carter, from James Cook University in Townsville, said the rising
level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere in recent decades had
boosted agricultural crop yields.

"Carbon dioxide is the best aerial fertiliser we know about," he told
the Victorian Farmers Federation in Morwell late last week.

Professor Carter, a marine geologist, is research professor in the
university's Marine Geophysical Laboratory.

http://planetforlife.com/gwarm/glob1000.html


Blame it on the moo cows, then.

You're going down, Whitey.


So please tell us, what colour are you?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



John S. July 27th 05 06:49 PM

Glad to see you remember your 7th grade geography lessons. However, if
you will go back and reread what I actually wrote you will find that I
was not making a reference to what the book said. Merely that it was
written in the same time that GB and RU were engaged in a wide number
of imperialist activities. One of which was the Great Game.


dxAce July 27th 05 06:53 PM



"John S." wrote:

Glad to see you remember your 7th grade geography lessons. However, if
you will go back and reread what I actually wrote you will find that I
was not making a reference to what the book said. Merely that it was
written in the same time that GB and RU were engaged in a wide number
of imperialist activities. One of which was the Great Game.


Nice back track...! Point was, the quote itself had nothing what so ever to do
with your comment.

Keep trying.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



John S. July 27th 05 06:56 PM



dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

Glad to see you remember your 7th grade geography lessons. However, if
you will go back and reread what I actually wrote you will find that I
was not making a reference to what the book said. Merely that it was
written in the same time that GB and RU were engaged in a wide number
of imperialist activities. One of which was the Great Game.


Nice back track...! Point was, the quote itself had nothing what so ever to do
with your comment.


Not sure I understand...your post was chained directly below mine.

Keep trying.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce July 27th 05 07:00 PM



"John S." wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

Glad to see you remember your 7th grade geography lessons. However, if
you will go back and reread what I actually wrote you will find that I
was not making a reference to what the book said. Merely that it was
written in the same time that GB and RU were engaged in a wide number
of imperialist activities. One of which was the Great Game.


Nice back track...! Point was, the quote itself had nothing what so ever to do
with your comment.


Not sure I understand...your post was chained directly below mine.


I'm sure you don't understand. That puts me a leg up on you. Not that I wasn't sure
before, but this certainly confirms it.

Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



David July 27th 05 10:54 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 12:07:17 -0500, wrote:

It is the "crazy white men" (I am not racist,there are a lot of other
people of color whom are very smart too) who maintain and keep those oil
wells going.The ragheads (not confusing India with ragheads,they are
smart too) can't keep those oil wells going by themselves.I noticed oil
is about $60.00 per barrel nowdays.If we are stealing their oil,why is
it I paid $31.00 and pocket change yesterday afternoon to fill my car's
tank up with gasoline to the tune of $2.07.9 at the MurphyUSA gas
station? Gasoline should be dirt cheap if we are stealing their oil.I am
heading on over to the Goodwill store now to see what kind of junk I
don't need,(and flirt with the women over there too) might as well burn
a little of that oil I bought yesterday.That married Irish woman wayyyy
over yonder across the big pond tells me,Larry,you don't need any more
junk!
cuhulin


If the gas is not going to be used to create petroleum products, Mr.
Braudaway said, it would normally be reinjected to keep the pressure
up as oil is extracted, insuring a longer life for the wells. But Iraq
does not do that either. Instead, in the south, which has 80 percent
of the country's oil reserves, it uses an antiquated system of water
injection to keep the pressure up. (The problems are even worse in the
north, where for reasons known only to themselves, Iraqi engineers
pumped things like excess fuel oil, refinery residues and old crude
oil into some wells, probably damaging them permanently.)

At one "cluster pump" station with a new computerized control system
that the American money had purchased, the water appeared to be
flowing normally when a group of visitors arrived, although one major
pump had broken down minutes before. At another pumping station, which
moves crude through one of two critically important pipelines for
export from platforms in the Persian Gulf, the equipment was
oil-encrusted and generally could have used a coat of paint, but it
seemed to be functioning.

The problems with the liquefied gas plant, though, immediately caught
the attention of the Kellogg engineers as they drove up in a convoy of
sport utility vehicles. "It is very dangerous," Mr. Humphries said of
the gas streaming from the broken towers. "You're just pushing it off
into the atmosphere." Mr. Ibraheem, the production manager, said the
British military, which has responsibility for the south of Iraq, had
been warned not to fly in the area. And as he began to lead a tour
through the plant, he asked a photographer not to use his flash.
"Camera makes sparks," Mr. Ibraheem said. The tour passed without
incident, but as the visitors were leaving, they encountered five big
metal cylinders lying on the ground next to a road. It turned out they
were new tips for the towers that the plant had been storing since
before the war.

But the new plant managers had not been able to find the huge cranes
that would be needed to put the tips in place. Now the engineers are
hoping to install them by May. Standing next to the replacements was
Hassan Monsour Fadher, a retired safety manager at the plant. When
asked how the tips would work, Mr. Fadher demurred and said,
chuckling: "You are giving me exam." Then he lighted a cigarette and
took a couple of long drags.




David July 27th 05 10:56 PM

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:00:12 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Is this a baggage fetish...


dxAce July 27th 05 11:00 PM



David wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:00:12 -0400, dxAce
wrote:


Continue to tote.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Is this a baggage fetish...


Yeah, it's much like your ongoing off topic post fetish, 'tard boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



m II July 28th 05 02:45 AM

Greg wrote:

I'm sure you don't understand. That puts me a leg up on you.


Not a pretty picture!



I'll say. The picture was posted here by a friend of the Ace's a few months
back. Being unsophisticated slobs, we interpreted the photo as homosexual
pornography instead of what it appears now to be: The Ace just having a 'leg up'
on another guy.





mike

m II July 28th 05 02:55 AM

dxAce wrote:



From: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/su.html

dxAce



When did the CIA become an accurate reporter of world facts? We're going to need
a more credible source. It's the Iraq fiasco, you understand...








mike

Greg July 28th 05 03:04 AM



From: m II
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:45:20 GMT
Subject: The true Prophet?

Greg wrote:

I'm sure you don't understand. That puts me a leg up on you.


Not a pretty picture!



I'll say. The picture was posted here by a friend of the Ace's a few months
back. Being unsophisticated slobs, we interpreted the photo as homosexual
pornography instead of what it appears now to be: The Ace just having a 'leg
up'
on another guy.


mike

....not to mention the electrical shock hazard!

Greg


m II July 28th 05 03:54 AM

Peter Newman wrote:

So why'd we invade Iraq?



To get rid of Saddam Husein and his Baath party.



The Administration went to great lengths to explain that regime change was NOT
the reason for invasion. That would have been illegal under UN rules. Weapons of
Mass Destruction were the justification.

These weapons were located East, West, North, South and a little North West of
Baghdad. Remember? It was a 'Slam Dunk'..










mike

dxAce July 28th 05 12:28 PM



m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:



From: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/su.html

dxAce


When did the CIA become an accurate reporter of world facts? We're going to need
a more credible source. It's the Iraq fiasco, you understand...


Well, I'm certainly going to believe the CIA before I believe some stupid Canuck.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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