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lsmyer July 25th 05 07:38 PM

Future of radio becoming a lot less fuzzy
 
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...inment/3277086

Interesting article about High Definition radio. The article ends with the
following quote: "...eventually, stations will broadcast only digitally --
Stearn says that point probably won't be reached for 15 years -- and every
radio you now own will become a useless relic that you'll try to unload on
eBay."

Before you start selling all your analog radios, please understand that the
speaker of the quote was Vicki Stearn, a spokesman for iBiquity, whose
future depends upon HD radio becoming popular.

My guess is that analog radio will outlive iBiquity.



David July 25th 05 07:49 PM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:38:19 -0400, "lsmyer"
wrote:


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...inment/3277086

Interesting article about High Definition radio. The article ends with the
following quote: "...eventually, stations will broadcast only digitally --
Stearn says that point probably won't be reached for 15 years -- and every
radio you now own will become a useless relic that you'll try to unload on
eBay."

Before you start selling all your analog radios, please understand that the
speaker of the quote was Vicki Stearn, a spokesman for iBiquity, whose
future depends upon HD radio becoming popular.

My guess is that analog radio will outlive iBiquity.


IBOC was the dumbest idea ever. The NAB didn't want a regular DAB
type infrastructure because it meant every station had equal
facilities. Dumb asses. Now they have 250 new competitors in every
single market due to SDARS.


[email protected] July 25th 05 08:01 PM

And then there's the damned LARRS. By the time the KJIO distributed
their EEW materials to UUYPOO, almost ever RROLP in North America had
gone over to the IIU. I was so disgusted, I wrote a letter to the
JJKKL.

Steve


D Peter Maus July 25th 05 08:25 PM

wrote:
And then there's the damned LARRS. By the time the KJIO distributed
their EEW materials to UUYPOO, almost ever RROLP in North America had
gone over to the IIU. I was so disgusted, I wrote a letter to the
JJKKL.

Steve



Would someone take Steve's AlphaBits away?




David July 25th 05 08:33 PM

On 25 Jul 2005 12:01:43 -0700, wrote:

And then there's the damned LARRS. By the time the KJIO distributed
their EEW materials to UUYPOO, almost ever RROLP in North America had
gone over to the IIU. I was so disgusted, I wrote a letter to the
JJKKL.

Steve

Mr. Antenna Fetishist;

SDARS is the official FCC acronym for what is generically called
''satellite radio''.

IBOC is the name Ibiquity used for what they now call HDRadio.


[email protected] July 25th 05 08:40 PM

So long as we're talking about satellite radio, you needn't bother to
explain.

Steve


dxAce July 25th 05 08:41 PM



David wrote:

On 25 Jul 2005 12:01:43 -0700, wrote:

And then there's the damned LARRS. By the time the KJIO distributed
their EEW materials to UUYPOO, almost ever RROLP in North America had
gone over to the IIU. I was so disgusted, I wrote a letter to the
JJKKL.

Steve

Mr. Antenna Fetishist;

SDARS is the official FCC acronym for what is generically called
''satellite radio''.


Take you SDARS outta here, 'tard boy...

Go tote it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



David July 25th 05 09:06 PM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:43:24 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

lsmyer:

As usual, a model for amateur radio has already been established. As soon as it dawns upon the citizens there, they will be able to implement those models, and yes, once again, claim to have "developed them."

"The model?", you ask. Why it is the internet. Already there, the citizens are not slaving under any un-workable equip., software, methods, or conditions. Now, a work-a-like only needs to be setup and established for amateur radio.

John

"lsmyer" wrote in message ...
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...inment/3277086

Interesting article about High Definition radio. The article ends with the
following quote: "...eventually, stations will broadcast only digitally --
Stearn says that point probably won't be reached for 15 years -- and every
radio you now own will become a useless relic that you'll try to unload on
eBay."

Before you start selling all your analog radios, please understand that the
speaker of the quote was Vicki Stearn, a spokesman for iBiquity, whose
future depends upon HD radio becoming popular.

My guess is that analog radio will outlive iBiquity.


Amateurs are free to use digital methods are they not?


David July 26th 05 12:52 AM

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:12:11 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

David:

Oh, you missed my meaning...

I mean casual chat chans, dating chans, "verbal newsgroups" (with data too), etc, etc...

There is a bit of technology already on amateur radio which is sufficient to get it all up and running, it is the methods of use which require the first upgrades...

John

"David" wrote in message ...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:43:24 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

lsmyer:

As usual, a model for amateur radio has already been established. As soon as it dawns upon the citizens there, they will be able to implement those models, and yes, once again, claim to have "developed them."

"The model?", you ask. Why it is the internet. Already there, the citizens are not slaving under any un-workable equip., software, methods, or conditions. Now, a work-a-like only needs to be setup and established for amateur radio.

John

"lsmyer" wrote in message ...
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...inment/3277086

Interesting article about High Definition radio. The article ends with the
following quote: "...eventually, stations will broadcast only digitally --
Stearn says that point probably won't be reached for 15 years -- and every
radio you now own will become a useless relic that you'll try to unload on
eBay."

Before you start selling all your analog radios, please understand that the
speaker of the quote was Vicki Stearn, a spokesman for iBiquity, whose
future depends upon HD radio becoming popular.

My guess is that analog radio will outlive iBiquity.


Amateurs are free to use digital methods are they not?

Packet radio is pretty digital.


Pete KE9OA July 26th 05 04:13 PM

Oh, thos iBoc folks..............I called them about a year ago, asking them
about their system. When they explained the virtues of their system, and
what a good deal it was, I asked them how they were going to handle the
multipath effects of evening propagation. I also explained to them that I
didn't thing it was such a good for people to actually have to pay money out
of their own pockets for a system that actually takes three channels of
spectrum space for one of their transmissions.
They never did respond to my e-mail. I guess they didn't have an answer.
Might have been too busy paying Vicki Stearn.

Pete

"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...inment/3277086

Interesting article about High Definition radio. The article ends with the
following quote: "...eventually, stations will broadcast only digitally --
Stearn says that point probably won't be reached for 15 years -- and every
radio you now own will become a useless relic that you'll try to unload on
eBay."

Before you start selling all your analog radios, please understand that
the speaker of the quote was Vicki Stearn, a spokesman for iBiquity, whose
future depends upon HD radio becoming popular.

My guess is that analog radio will outlive iBiquity.




Frank Dresser July 26th 05 04:33 PM


"lsmyer" wrote in message
...
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...inment/3277086

Interesting article about High Definition radio. The article ends with the
following quote: "...eventually, stations will broadcast only digitally --
Stearn says that point probably won't be reached for 15 years -- and every
radio you now own will become a useless relic that you'll try to unload on
eBay."

Before you start selling all your analog radios, please understand that

the
speaker of the quote was Vicki Stearn, a spokesman for iBiquity, whose
future depends upon HD radio becoming popular.

My guess is that analog radio will outlive iBiquity.



Ever since Clear Channel went in big for IBOC, I've suspected broadcasters
were really after the extra channels on the same license. The story sort of
confirms it:

"The big draw will be multicasting, the additional programming that digital
technology creates: Every station now on the FM dial, whether commercial or
public, will be able to add a second channel, and possibly a third."

I suppose the same thing could be done with AM, two or three channels for
each station, although I don't know if the current IBOC radios are capable
of such multichannel reception.

I don't know if ibiquity will fail. High fidelity broadcasting has been
mostly one disappointment after another. But, if ibiquity has figured out a
way for broadcasters to increase revenue, they will succeed.

Frank



Frank Dresser July 26th 05 04:43 PM


"Pete KE9OA" wrote in message
...
Oh, thos iBoc folks..............I called them about a year ago, asking

them
about their system. When they explained the virtues of their system, and
what a good deal it was, I asked them how they were going to handle the
multipath effects of evening propagation. I also explained to them that I
didn't thing it was such a good for people to actually have to pay money

out
of their own pockets for a system that actually takes three channels of
spectrum space for one of their transmissions.
They never did respond to my e-mail. I guess they didn't have an answer.
Might have been too busy paying Vicki Stearn.

Pete


For the time being, AM IBOC stations are turning off their noise machines
during the night. I'm sure they don't intend that to be permanent.

It's curious that the FCC reduced the AM bandwidth to reduce interference
when they increased the number of stations allowed. Now they're allowing
this ultrawide band system to pollute the spectrum.

Frank Dresser




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