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"-=jd=-" wrote in message jd. Why do guys keep beating a dead horse with this guy? I kinda wish you all would just ignor the mf. He's mentally ill you know? GFC B.H. It's recreational? -=jd=- Whew! wipes brow I was fearful that maybe you guys thought you could talk sense into him? I should have given you more credit. Carry on. B.H. |
On 31 Jul 2005 18:55:06 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: I say ''smarts'' is bigger than any being and a value inherent in the universe. There is an original DNA molecule who likes to travel. Opinions vary dramatically... -=jd=- Not my idea of drama. It's really not at all imortant. We're here, but not for much longer, because we have dilled the Airstream. |
On 31 Jul 2005 18:56:11 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: God knows everything Nobody knows everything God is Nobody You are making gross presumptions again, I see... -=jd=- Technically, that was a ''deduction'' not a ''presumption''... |
"David" wrote in message Technically, that was a ''deduction'' not a ''presumption''... No you cant deduce because your reasoning is flawed and therefore you've been bumped back into the presumption dept. Mr. Rickets! Good Day! B.H. |
DaviD - When the 'finite' becomes the "INFINITE" . . .
e.g. When the 'infinite' becomes the "FINITE" . . . http://www.captainatlantis.com/newagep15.htm |
On 31 Jul 2005 11:36:48 -0700, "RHF"
wrote: DaviD - When the 'finite' becomes the "INFINITE" . . . e.g. When the 'infinite' becomes the "FINITE" . . . http://www.captainatlantis.com/newagep15.htm . What Comes Around (Physical) Goes Around {Meta-Physical} http://www.autopenhosting.org/direct...mic-space.html . " God is Nobody " = God Is (In) Everybody http://www.carm.org/islam/obj_God_finite.htm [ Therefore - God Is In Each Of Us ] . As Carl Sagan Said "We Are Made of Star Stuff" http://www.skeptic.com/04.4.sagan-tribute.html http://www.stmarys.ca/academic/conte...e1/page01.html . Simply Open Up Your Heart and Let Him {God} In/Out - Amen ~ RHF . . . . . We were talking - about the space between us all And the people - who hide themselves behind a wall of illusion Never glimpse the truth - then it's far too late - when they pass away. We were talking - about the love we all could share - when we find it To try our best to hold it there - with our love With our love - we could save the world - if they only knew. Try to realise it's all within yourself no-one else can make you change And to see you're really only very small, and life flows on within you and without you. We were talking - about the love that's gone so cold and the people, Who gain the world and lose their soul - they don't know - they can't see - are you one of them? When you've seen beyond yourself - then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there - And the time will come when you see we're all one, and life flows on within you and without you. --George Harrison |
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:07:04 -0500, "Brian Hill"
wrote: "-=jd=-" wrote in message jd. Why do guys keep beating a dead horse with this guy? I kinda wish you all would just ignor the mf. He's mentally ill you know? GFC B.H. It's recreational? -=jd=- Whew! wipes brow I was fearful that maybe you guys thought you could talk sense into him? I should have given you more credit. Carry on. B.H. Who are you? One of those pricks who gets ''hall monitor'' duty and gets a big head about it? |
What's an mf? Massey Ferguson Farm Tractors?
cuhulin |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message . 20... On Sat 30 Jul 2005 05:01:49p, "Honus" wrote in message news:1VRGe.6080$Tk6.5106@trnddc02: "-=jd=-" wrote in message . 20... On Fri 29 Jul 2005 07:47:51p, "Honus" wrote in message news:HezGe.63$4e6.53@trnddc04: "-=jd=-" wrote in message . 20... If you want to believe everything evolved or "just happened" by pure, random chance, then that same logic would have you believe that a tornado could pass through a junk-yard and spit out a functioning Boeing 747, just by pure, random chance. That, of course, is a -thorough- mischaracterization of biological evolution. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html It is an over-generalization, but the root-point is the same. The fossil record provides evidence of many different forms of life -- but there have been no transitional forms found, save for a scant few lizards that appeared to have feather-like features that have been presumed to be the onset of birds. Well, that's still a presumption, or a leap in logic or faith that is loosely based on fact, but not completely supported by the historical record. Perhaps one day it may be, but not yet. There are quite a few more transitionals than you realize. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html Which still requires "leaps in logic/faith" to span the gaps. It is sprinkled with phrases similar to "we don't know", "remains unknown", etc. Another creationist fallacy. Anytime a fossil is found that neatly fits between two others, creationists point out that the new discovery merely creates two more gaps. If we have #1 and #3 and then add #2, the question immediately arises "Where is 1.5?" It's never ending, no amount of transitionals will satisfy, and a perfect line of of descent with mother/daughter type relationships isn't going to be found. The therapsid to mammal chain is particularly fine-grained, though. It's worth investigating, for so-inclined. But the evolutionist is "convinced" in his belief nonetheless. Because of that, I see little difference between the two camps. I humbly suggest you look much harder. :) |
"David" wrote in message Who are you? One of those pricks who gets ''hall monitor'' duty and gets a big head about it? Who are you? One of those pricks who thinks everyone is stupid minus yourself? So you keep bugging the **** out of everyone thinking your saving us from ourselves because your to stupid to see we're ****ing with you because you wont shut the **** up. And the wheel goes round and round and I keep thinking you must be a troll because nobody is that stupid and what idiot would pick RRS as a platform to push the **** your trying to make us swallow. Shove off clown or get back on topic! B.H. |
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:50:05 -0500, wrote:
What's an mf? Massey Ferguson Farm Tractors? cuhulin Maynard Ferguson used to take LSD and sit on Tim Leary's roof, playing his horn. |
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:01:30 -0500, "Brian Hill"
wrote: Moderation in the defense of Liberty is no virtue, Clyde. |
"-=jd=-" wrote in message . 20... On Sun 31 Jul 2005 02:56:37p, "Honus" wrote in message news:F99He.8339$DJ5.3005@trnddc07: "-=jd=-" wrote in message . 20... On Sat 30 Jul 2005 05:01:49p, "Honus" wrote in message news:1VRGe.6080$Tk6.5106@trnddc02: "-=jd=-" wrote in message . 20... On Fri 29 Jul 2005 07:47:51p, "Honus" wrote in message news:HezGe.63$4e6.53@trnddc04: "-=jd=-" wrote in message . 20... If you want to believe everything evolved or "just happened" by pure, random chance, then that same logic would have you believe that a tornado could pass through a junk-yard and spit out a functioning Boeing 747, just by pure, random chance. That, of course, is a -thorough- mischaracterization of biological evolution. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/chance/chance.html It is an over-generalization, but the root-point is the same. The fossil record provides evidence of many different forms of life -- but there have been no transitional forms found, save for a scant few lizards that appeared to have feather-like features that have been presumed to be the onset of birds. Well, that's still a presumption, or a leap in logic or faith that is loosely based on fact, but not completely supported by the historical record. Perhaps one day it may be, but not yet. There are quite a few more transitionals than you realize. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html Which still requires "leaps in logic/faith" to span the gaps. It is sprinkled with phrases similar to "we don't know", "remains unknown", etc. Another creationist fallacy. Anytime a fossil is found that neatly fits between two others, creationists point out that the new discovery merely creates two more gaps. If we have #1 and #3 and then add #2, the question immediately arises "Where is 1.5?" It's never ending, no amount of transitionals will satisfy, and a perfect line of of descent with mother/daughter type relationships isn't going to be found. The therapsid to mammal chain is particularly fine-grained, though. It's worth investigating, for so-inclined. Oh boy -- The unsettling problem with gaps is from your own cited URL! g I see you missed the point. I also see that neither of us is going to convince the other. That's okay. The creationists and their like-minded cronies can continue praying with no discernable result, while science will continue to advance...doing things, like oh, curing and preventing disease for example. The fact of the matter is that science works and produces results that improves the quality of our lives...and evolutionary biology, being an increasingly more imoprtant part of modern medicine, is included in that statement. If I'm sick, I'd rather see a doctor than a priest. But the evolutionist is "convinced" in his belief nonetheless. Because of that, I see little difference between the two camps. I humbly suggest you look much harder. :) Yes, I have; and keep finding the same evolutionary progression similar to the following: Here we see the fossil "WhattaMattaRex" (a lizard) from the yaddacene era. A gazillion years later, we see the presumed Nth evolution in the fossil "ItsaMattaRex" from the later Discocene era. While we don't know exactly when Creature-A morphed into Creature-B, it is a foregone scientific conclusion that somewhere in the gazillion years between the Yaddacene and Discocene, a miracle occurred that we can't fully explain. So to keep it neat, we simply discard the gap as insignificant and declare the Nth evolutionary form as directly descended, based on a single tooth fragment that we found in a mud layer on another continent. And again, more gross mischaracteriziation, albeit unintentional on your part. As a layman, that's what I hear them struggling to explain. So it's not a question of small gaps. It's a question of presumptions that necessarily have to be made from time to time. The fossil record may yet yield a clearer picture. Someday. Maybe. Who knows... It already has, and you haven't looked very diligently. I'd recommend, for anyone so inclined, to study up on the "twin nested hierarchies" and the mapping of the human genome. ;) http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/postmonth/apr00.html |
On 31 Jul 2005 21:49:36 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: On Sun 31 Jul 2005 02:10:40p, David wrote in message : On 31 Jul 2005 18:56:11 GMT, "-=jd=-" wrote: God knows everything Nobody knows everything God is Nobody You are making gross presumptions again, I see... -=jd=- Technically, that was a ''deduction'' not a ''presumption''... You may only deduce from factual information. However, you can presume based on a perception, skewed or otherwise. Ergo, you continue to jump to gross presumptions. -=jd=- So which part is not factual? |
On 31 Jul 2005 21:55:28 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: On Sun 31 Jul 2005 03:39:06p, David wrote in message : On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:01:30 -0500, "Brian Hill" wrote: Moderation in the defense of Liberty is no virtue, Clyde. What do you know about defending liberty, leech-boy? -=jd=- Enough to keep my head out of the sand. |
"David" wrote in message What do you know about defending liberty, leech-boy? -=jd=- Enough to keep my head out of the sand. Your capacity for self degradation is really quite formidable Dave. Carry on. B.H. |
dxAce wrote:
That's the problem with you dumbass Canucks... you don't think! Quite right. We don't think you are typical of United States citizens, most of whom are really decent people in comparison to you and your built in hatred of all things human. ...continue to bore, Bozo.. yawnnnn mike |
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m II wrote: dxAce wrote: That's the problem with you dumbass Canucks... you don't think! Quite right. Well, at least you admit it! dxAce Michigan USA |
dxAce had written for him:
m II wrote: dxAce wrote: That's the problem with you dumbass Canucks... you don't think! Quite right. Well, at least you admit it! ...yawn...wow, this be powerful boring. I was wide awake three seconds ago...yawn... mike |
Brian Hill wrote:
"David" wrote in message Who are you? One of those pricks who gets ''hall monitor'' duty and gets a big head about it? Who are you? One of those pricks who thinks everyone is stupid minus yourself? So you keep bugging the **** out of everyone thinking your saving us from ourselves How dare he! That's *MY* job. Man..you carve yourself out a little niche in the salvation business and next thing you know someone's trying to muscle in on your racke..er..cough..cough..BUSINESS..business. He should be ashamed of himself. mike |
m II wrote: dxAce had written for him: m II wrote: dxAce wrote: That's the problem with you dumbass Canucks... you don't think! Quite right. Well, at least you admit it! ...yawn...wow, this be powerful boring. I was wide awake three seconds ago...yawn... Guess you'd better go back to bed then, 'tard. You're certainly not going to accomplish anything today. Oh, by the way, I discovered what m II stands for... 'Mental Midget'. LMFAO at the stupid Canuck. dxAce Michigan USA |
Carl Sagan was right about that,we are made of Star stuff.If a certain
Star haden't exploded eons ago,we wouldn't be here. cuhulin |
I am a typical United States American Citizen.Just a normal fat old
coot,I am. cuhulin |
In about an hour or so,I am fixin to get my typical American made
lawnmower out with it's typical Briggs & Stratton typical four and a half typical Horsepower engine on it and mow my typical American yard and sweat like a typical American made Mule.Look out typical American made grass and weeds,here I typically am fixin to mow you down,your a.. is grass and I am the mf (Massey Ferguson) lawnmower. cuhulin |
On 01 Aug 2005 22:49:15 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: Why, all of it. Your turn... -=jd=- So God does not know everything... |
dxAce wrote:
Oh, by the way, I discovered what m II stands for... 'Mental Midget'. No doubt about it. That's why I can identify with every single one of your postings. They're EXACTLY at my level comprehension. I know it's difficult for you to write up to my level and I really appreciate the great effort you have to make. I'm more than willing to put up with your grammatical guffaws for the sake of cheap entertainment. .. LMFAO at the stupid Canuck. How does your 'Licking My Fat Anus Orbitally' act as an insult? That sort of activity must be something you acquired in the armed forces while in training for a commission. You can stop practicing on yourself now....deviant. mike |
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Don't you worry about Elvis Presley,he is doing much better than you
ever will.Do you know there is an Elvis Presley Trauma Center at the University of Memphis,in Memphis,Tennessee? cuhulin |
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 23:05:51 GMT, m II wrote:
wrote: If a certain Star haden't exploded eons ago,we wouldn't be here. I hadn't realized Elvis was that badly off. Time is distance but space is curved, so are you sure that star isn't going to explode some time in the future? |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 00:32:22 GMT, "-=jd=-"
wrote: On Mon 01 Aug 2005 06:57:42p, David wrote in message : On 01 Aug 2005 22:49:15 GMT, "-=jd=-" wrote: Why, all of it. Your turn... -=jd=- So God does not know everything... If it makes you happy to presume so. However, you still have yet to mention any facts, factual information, etc... -=jd= Facts are the enemy of the truth. (I'm guessing you don't get in-touch with your inner surrealist very much...) |
No. We know the universe isn't really infinite, but it's so
staggeringly gigantic that to anyone other than a mathematician, "infinite" is the most accurate way to convey the idea of something so hugely big beyond all human comprehension. Try imagining a trillion suns, then a trillion groups of a trillion suns, then a trillion sets of groups each with a trillion groups of a trillion suns, then.... Close enough to infinite for all practical purposes. :) -- Ross |
What you're looking for might be (infinity - 1) + 1.
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Ideological people are generally very stupid, because they take a few
received precepts and force the world to fit them as a substitute for intelligent thought. Doesn't matter whether the ideology is Communism or religion. The problem isn't *intelligent* atheism but *unintelligent* absolutist Communism or *unintelligent* absolutist free-marketism or absolutist religion or unintelligent absolutist anything. "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" -- Voltaire. |
They are MORON muslims dipped in Pig Fat and Pig Waste.Same as all
politicians are.Back to my movie on tv now,Flight of the Navigator.COMPLY! cuhulin |
And if there are any of Art Bell's and George Noory's (talk about a
couple of kooks!,Sheesh!) "space aliens" out there,they are so far away they dont know we exist and we will never know if they exist.Time does not exist and our Solar System only has about four and a half billion years to go before it is all toast.Four and a half billion years is nothing in the grand scheme of the Universe.As far as that is concerned,it is like a gate that is open and closed at the same time and we go though that gate but at the same time we do not go through that gate.We are gone before we are here.COMPLY! cuhulin |
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Ferguson himself denies that this ever happened.
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