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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:06:46 -0500, cuhulin wrote:
At least three tons or much more of Space dust (including Meteorites once in a while too) drift into our Atmosphere and down on to the surface of Earth and on/in the water,Oceans,Seas,Lakes,Rivers,Ponds,on top our roof tops,everywhere,every day,every year.Earth is gradually getting larger every day. cuhulin That is good to know. I always wondered why ancient cities had to be dug out of the ground. Why shouldn't they be above ground the way they were a couple of thousand years ago? This explains it nicely. |
MnMikew wrote:
"David" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:21:19 -0500, "MnMikew" wrote: "RHF" wrote in message oups.com... MnM, . Direct (Screw-In) Halogen Bulbs should be as RF Quiet as the older 'standard' Incandescent Bulbs. Some Halogen Desk Lighting Systems use a Transformer Yes mine are in a fixture and I would imagine there's some kind of transformer in there. A ''halogen'' bulb is simply an incandescent with gas, rather than a vacuum, inside the bulb. It still uses 90% of the energy going into it to produce heat, rather than visible light. $8 a bulb is way too high for a CF. Try the 5-packs at Home Depot. It definetily kicks out the heat, especially when its cranked up to 300W. Would come in handy in the winter. Remember the halogen floor lamps that started fires? If a curtain happened to get draped across the top, the bulb was SO hot that it would ignite the curtain. After that, I was VERY cautious about using halogen lamps. I recently put a halogen fixture in my bathroom, but only because all the other fixtures at Home Depot used incandescents. If the SunLight Bulb is truly superior, then $8 is a reasonable price. If it becomes popular, then we will see lower prices. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
We are getting a real good rain here right now in Jackson on my bald
headed roof and my DirecTV is Searching for satellite signal. cuhulin |
"bounce" wrote in message g... On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:06:46 -0500, cuhulin wrote: At least three tons or much more of Space dust (including Meteorites once in a while too) drift into our Atmosphere and down on to the surface of Earth and on/in the water,Oceans,Seas,Lakes,Rivers,Ponds,on top our roof tops,everywhere,every day,every year.Earth is gradually getting larger every day. cuhulin That is good to know. I always wondered why ancient cities had to be dug out of the ground. Why shouldn't they be above ground the way they were a couple of thousand years ago? This explains it nicely. LOL!! Oh Boy! B.H. |
I made a typo,it is the GE Reveal (I got up and looked at the package)
60 (60 watt) light bulbs I use.There was a guy at the Goodwill store this afternoon useing one of those hand held picker upper thingys trying to pick something up off the floor.The gal sitting behind the cash register told him,If you poke it,usully it will stand up. cuhulin |
Something about the electronic circuit in them flourescent light bulbs,I
guess.My lamp I use is a very old metal floor lamp with a gooseneck on it,I bought the lamp at a Goodwill store many years ago.It sits between my end of doggys couch between the end of the back of the couch and my computer which sits on an end table by my end of the couch.I am not going to change the arrangement either just for a stupid screw in flourescent light bulb.I am very happy with the arrangement just the way it is.Besides,changing old style light bulbs once in a while is something I dont mind doing.To me,it is all part of normal house keeping. cuhulin |
I dont want to save the Planet,when it goes down in flames,I want to go
with it. cuhulin |
You have a yard? Put a rock or something on top of your yard/grass/dirt
and dont disturb that rock or whatever.If you wait long enough,it will gradually sink on down completly out of sight and other dirt will gradually cover the rock completly over.Dirt is soft stuff and harder/heavier things sink into the dirt or sand. cuhulin |
Those old cities,most of them anyway,weren't built on bedrock,hence,they
sink. cuhulin |
David - Somewhere I read that if every household
in the USA used just one or the newer CF Bulbs. It would Save One Day of Imported Oil per Year. |
On 12 Aug 2005 15:21:16 -0700, "RHF"
wrote: David - Somewhere I read that if every household in the USA used just one or the newer CF Bulbs. It would Save One Day of Imported Oil per Year. . america it's time to re-light-up ! says my little peanut brain ~ RHF . . . . . How about if every household used 10 of them? What about ''peaker'' plants? |
"Jeff" wrote in message news:AcdLe.244498$x96.32180@attbi_s72... "David" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:33:03 GMT, "Jeff" Forests used to act as cabon sinks and a state of approximate equilibrium was maintained. Deforestation contributes to global warming in a couple ways. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im sure you meant "carbon" dioxide sinks and I agree. Every green plant sucks up CO/2 and gives off O/2. And yes trees are cut down,, but all logging companies replant. They arent going to cut their own throats by not replanting. MOST logging companies in the US and Canada reforest.. this is not the case in S. and Central American countries where the forests are being harvested and replaced with cities. |
Brenda Ann wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:AcdLe.244498$x96.32180@attbi_s72... "David" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:33:03 GMT, "Jeff" Forests used to act as cabon sinks and a state of approximate equilibrium was maintained. Deforestation contributes to global warming in a couple ways. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im sure you meant "carbon" dioxide sinks and I agree. Every green plant sucks up CO/2 and gives off O/2. And yes trees are cut down,, but all logging companies replant. They arent going to cut their own throats by not replanting. MOST logging companies in the US and Canada reforest.. this is not the case in S. and Central American countries where the forests are being harvested and replaced with cities. which is why we Americans should do More of our own logging. Indeed Logging here and replanting in varieities that grow fast and soak up CO2 we might soak more CO2 as we build our houses, esp as we build ou r Big houses and the Wood intensive Log facade frame home that the yuppies are put up as vaction home around here |
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:49:04 GMT, "Jeff"
wrote: "David" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:33:03 GMT, "Jeff" Forests used to act as cabon sinks and a state of approximate equilibrium was maintained. Deforestation contributes to global warming in a couple ways. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im sure you meant "carbon" dioxide sinks and I agree. Every green plant sucks up CO/2 and gives off O/2. And yes trees are cut down,, but all logging companies replant. They arent going to cut their own throats by not replanting. J A grove of softwood conifers is not nearly as efficient for storing CO2 as an old growth, mixed forest. ''There are four components of carbon storage in a forest ecosystem. These are trees, plants growing on the forest floor (understory material), detritus such as leaf litter and other decaying matter on the forest floor, and forest soils. Carbon is sequestered in the process of plant growth as carbon is captured in plant cell formation and oxygen is released. As the forest biomass experiences growth, the carbon held captive in the forest stock increases. Simultaneously, plants grow on the forest floor and add to this carbon store. Over time, branches, leaves and other materials fall to the forest floor and may store carbon until they decompose. Additionally, forest soils may sequester some of the decomposing plant litter through root/soil interactions.'' |
David wrote: On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:49:04 GMT, "Jeff" wrote: "David" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:33:03 GMT, "Jeff" Forests used to act as cabon sinks and a state of approximate equilibrium was maintained. Deforestation contributes to global warming in a couple ways. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im sure you meant "carbon" dioxide sinks and I agree. Every green plant sucks up CO/2 and gives off O/2. And yes trees are cut down,, but all logging companies replant. They arent going to cut their own throats by not replanting. J A grove of softwood conifers is not nearly as efficient for storing CO2 as an old growth, mixed forest. But those confiers can store it up keep it in stroage in the from of Buildings while growing and absorbing even CO2 In time the Pine can soak up and keep in storage in our home and buildings a lot more co2 than the old growth forest can ''There are four components of carbon storage in a forest ecosystem. These are trees, plants growing on the forest floor (understory material), detritus such as leaf litter and other decaying matter on the forest floor, and forest soils. Carbon is sequestered in the process of plant growth as carbon is captured in plant cell formation and oxygen is released. As the forest biomass experiences growth, the carbon held captive in the forest stock increases. Simultaneously, plants grow on the forest floor and add to this carbon store. Over time, branches, leaves and other materials fall to the forest floor and may store carbon until they decompose. Additionally, forest soils may sequester some of the decomposing plant litter through root/soil interactions.'' |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 20:18:08 GMT, David wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:21:19 -0500, "MnMikew" wrote: "RHF" wrote in message roups.com... MnM, . Direct (Screw-In) Halogen Bulbs should be as RF Quiet as the older 'standard' Incandescent Bulbs. Some Halogen Desk Lighting Systems use a Transformer Yes mine are in a fixture and I would imagine there's some kind of transformer in there. A ''halogen'' bulb is simply an incandescent with gas, rather than a vacuum, inside the bulb. It still uses 90% of the energy going into it to produce heat, rather than visible light. $8 a bulb is way too high for a CF. Try the 5-packs at Home Depot. Even that's too much. CFs are crap. After some of the advertised "long life" ones blew, I started writing the install and fail dates on the white plastic bases. On average, they last anywhere from a tenth to a quarter of the advertised number of hours. As soon as the last of the most recent four-pack fails, I'll send the lot back under the guarantee. I'd spend the refund on incandescents, but they'll probably just send another pack of the same ****. "We're sorry you weren't satisfied with your original cornholing. Please bend over and we'll do it again for free." |
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wrote in message ... Even that's too much. CFs are crap. After some of the advertised "long life" ones blew, I started writing the install and fail dates on the white plastic bases. On average, they last anywhere from a tenth to a quarter of the advertised number of hours. As soon as the last of the most recent four-pack fails, I'll send the lot back under the guarantee. I'd spend the refund on incandescents, but they'll probably just send another pack of the same ****. "We're sorry you weren't satisfied with your original cornholing. Please bend over and we'll do it again for free." The unfortunate truth is, those life estimates (though factual for what they are) are based upon installing a lamp in a test jig, and leaving it to burn until it burns out. The machine has a light sensor and timer and records the amount of time the lamp burns. In the real world, however, we turn our lights on and off, and every time we turn them on, the current inrush significantly decreases the life expectancy of the lamp. If we simply left them on, they'd last pretty much as long as claimed. Look at some of those old incandescents that have been used in inaccessible places without switches, some of which have lasted for decades. |
In that case,we should all live in treehouses.
cuhulin |
I once dreamed I built a new shed in my back yard.The way I did it was
to plant some trees in a four rows close together to serve as the post/studs of my shed and somehow or other (in my dream) I attatched plywood to the trees to serve as the walls.I dont remember what I did for a roof.In my dream though,it turned out to be a neat looking shed. cuhulin |
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 08:30:42 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: wrote in message .. . Even that's too much. CFs are crap. After some of the advertised "long life" ones blew, I started writing the install and fail dates on the white plastic bases. On average, they last anywhere from a tenth to a quarter of the advertised number of hours. As soon as the last of the most recent four-pack fails, I'll send the lot back under the guarantee. I'd spend the refund on incandescents, but they'll probably just send another pack of the same ****. "We're sorry you weren't satisfied with your original cornholing. Please bend over and we'll do it again for free." The unfortunate truth is, those life estimates (though factual for what they are) are based upon installing a lamp in a test jig, and leaving it to burn until it burns out. The machine has a light sensor and timer and records the amount of time the lamp burns. In the real world, however, we turn our lights on and off, and every time we turn them on, the current inrush significantly decreases the life expectancy of the lamp. If we simply left them on, they'd last pretty much as long as claimed. Look at some of those old incandescents that have been used in inaccessible places without switches, some of which have lasted for decades. There's 8700+ hours in a year. I leave mine on about 18 hours a day (some of them) and they seem to last years. |
BAD - The Claim Life Cycle Testing Standard
is Three (3) Hours a Day One-On and One-Off Per 24 Hour Period in theory. This may be accelerate by only letting the Bulb 'cool down' for only One Hour and then repeating the Cycle. This would then result in Six "Daily Use" Cycles in One Day with a 6000 Hour MTBF Life Cycle Test taking about 334 Days (Less then One Year). |
David - OMG ! - I Agree with Jimmy Carter on something :o) ~ RHF
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Cuhulin - It is "Reveal" vice 'Real'
[ But they do make things look real. ] |
Yep,I know.It is GE Reveal lightbulbs,not GE Real lightbulbs.I did go
back and correct my great big mistake.They are real enough for me anyway. cuhulin |
FO&A,
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I once read somewhere many years ago that if a tv set is turned off,to
wait at least fifteen minutes before turnng the tv set back on.The owners manual that came with my new Whirlpool window unit airconditioner says if the unit is turned off,to wait three minutes before turning it back on. cuhulin |
On 14 Aug 2005 14:32:44 -0700, "RHF"
wrote: - - - Correction - - - . On the GE Lighting WebSite http://www.gelighting.com/na/ GE States the Daily Life Cycling is : * Based on 4 Hours of Consumer Use-per-Day. http://www.gelighting.com/na/home_li...se/regular.htm . Revised : "Life of a 'Test' Light Bulb" Analogy . GE's claim Life Cycle Testing Standard is Four (4) Hours a Day One-On and One-Off Per 24 Hour Period in Theory. This may be Accelerate by only letting the Bulb 'cool down' for only 48 Minutes and then repeating the Cycle. This would then result in Five "Daily Use" Cycles in One Day with a 6000 Hour MTBF Life Cycle Test taking about 300 Days (About 10 Months). . yes i got it wrong ;-{ - but now i fixed it :o) ~ RHF . . . . . I find it amusing that a company that builds power plants also sells terribly inefficient lighting devices. |
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 08:30:42 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: wrote in message .. . Even that's too much. CFs are crap. After some of the advertised "long life" ones blew, I started writing the install and fail dates on the white plastic bases. On average, they last anywhere from a tenth to a quarter of the advertised number of hours. As soon as the last of the most recent four-pack fails, I'll send the lot back under the guarantee. I'd spend the refund on incandescents, but they'll probably just send another pack of the same ****. "We're sorry you weren't satisfied with your original cornholing. Please bend over and we'll do it again for free." The unfortunate truth is, those life estimates (though factual for what they are) are based upon installing a lamp in a test jig, and leaving it to burn until it burns out. The machine has a light sensor and timer and records the amount of time the lamp burns. In the real world, however, we turn our lights on and off, and every time we turn them on, the current inrush significantly decreases the life expectancy of the lamp. If we simply left them on, they'd last pretty much as long as claimed. Look at some of those old incandescents that have been used in inaccessible places without switches, some of which have lasted for decades. I have a few incandescents (swiched and in daily use0) which last far longer than the POS CF bulbs.So it's disingenuous 9using my kindest language) to blare "Outlsts conventionl bulbs 10 - 1" if there are hidden conditions for that performance. And there's no savings if I have to run a quarter of the energy four times longer than needed (I really don't have a need to run my garage lights all day and night) in order to come up with the specified life. |
Kind of interesting,I think.The oldest man made lamps were rocks with
melted fat or some kind of oil for light.If the s... hits the fan big time,we might all be back to rock lamps.Holy Shades of Fred Flintstone! cuhulin |
Two green LED lights (Three,one is red if I have email,which I do have
right now,it is probally spam email and I will delete it later on) on the front of my Philips Magnavox webtv set top box,one green LED light on my DirecTV set top box,two red LED lights on my MGA/Mitsubishi tv set,one green LED light on my Brickwall surge filter www.pricewheeler.com LED lights on my computer and on my Broad Band router and on my DVD player.I dont like LED lights.I think I will get my roll of masking tape and cover them over.Invasion of the stupid LED lights! cuhulin |
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