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Andrew Oakley August 18th 05 02:37 PM

It can't happen here...
 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:44:25 -0500, wrote:

Every American Citizen has the RIGHT to listen to ANY and ALL Electronic
Transmissions,Period!


Is that really true? Ie. is it:

A) A "right", enforced by laws/constitution
B) A "freedom", something which is not specifically illegal, or
C) Not yet true, a political suggestion that you are recommending?

How does/would it apply to encrypted electronic transmissions - ie. if
it is a right, does that mean that US citizens also have the right to
the decryption keys, or the right to hack encrypted data? Surely this
contravienes the Digital Millenium laws?

In the UK, the situation is confused. IIRC, in *theory* it is illegal
to listen to any station that does not have a broadcasting licence
from the government. Therefore this makes most of SW DXing
theoretically illegal. However, IIRC, there has only ever been one
prosecution of this - a DJ who was caught displaying a pirate radio
sticker in his car window.


--
Andrew Oakley andrew/atsymbol/aoakley/stop/com

David August 18th 05 03:26 PM

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:44:25 -0500, wrote:

Every American Citizen has the RIGHT to listen to ANY and ALL Electronic
Transmissions,Period!
cuhulin

Then why is it a crime to hack DirecTV?


[email protected] August 18th 05 04:07 PM

F...... A Straik it is the TRUTH!
cuhulin


[email protected] August 18th 05 04:18 PM

I am not a hacker! You think I hack DirecTV? YOU go ask DirecTV 1 800
godirectv.I never hack anything!
cuhulin


[email protected] August 18th 05 04:29 PM

My name is James Larry Ryan 1304 Denson Ave Jackson,Mississippi Zip
Code,39209.Phone number, Area Code 601 923 0733.You go tell DirecTV or
anybody YOU! think I! am a hacker! My DirectTV snail mail paid in full
bill showed up here last week,$49.79 (forty nine dollars and seventy
nine cents) Something YOU wish to say about my little doggy now? YOU
SOB!!!!!!! YOU are the kind of a "person" I would NOT! give one drop of
water too (dumb as I am,I probally would though) if YOU were laying on a
desert floor dieing of thirst.
cuhulin (James Larry Ryan)


[email protected] August 18th 05 04:35 PM

Layyyy me downnnn on this cold lonesome desert,,,,, t'will beeeee this
gritus sand and rocks,,,,,, a cactus 'will beeeeee my pillowwwwwww,,,,,
scorpions will climb into my socks,,,,,,,,,,, old Marriot Hotels
song/jingle.I give credit to Marriot Hotels company for that.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 18th 05 04:37 PM

The real crime,,,,, rickets,,,,,, is you being you.
cuhulin


Andrew Oakley August 18th 05 05:58 PM

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:07:20 -0500, wrote:
F...... A Straik it is the TRUTH!


Okay, I believe you, but I'm curious - is this enshrined in your
constitution (bill of rights), or is this just something which is not
otherwise illegal (a "freedom")?

For instance, I have the FREEDOM to eat cornflakes, but I don't have
the RIGHT to eat cornflakes. If my village shop runs out of cornflakes
then I cannot take legal action against the shop.

However, I have the RIGHT to a copy of any police interview with me.
If the police run out of cassette tapes or paper then I CAN take legal
action against the police.

--
Andrew Oakley andrew/atsymbol/aoakley/stop/com
Gloucestershire, UK

[email protected] August 18th 05 08:11 PM

Look,if you have the equipment to listen to anything,,, that is your
RIGHT to listen in.
cuhulin


Stinger August 19th 05 12:03 AM


wrote in message
...
Every American Citizen has the RIGHT to listen to ANY and ALL Electronic
Transmissions,Period!
cuhulin


Actually, you don't, cuhulin.

Newer radio scanners for the public are required by law not to be capable of
eavesdropping on cellular phone frequencies. Many states have outlawed
radar detectors (which, of course, do nothing but listen for an electronic
transmission).

So, the reality is: "Every American citizen SHOULD have the right to listen
to any and all electronic transmissions, period."

-- Stinger




Andrew Oakley August 19th 05 10:11 AM

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:11:11 -0500, wrote:

Look,if you have the equipment to listen to anything,,, that is your
RIGHT to listen in.


No, you have the FREEDOM to listen in.

It's only a RIGHT if there are laws to back it up, such as a
Constitution or a Bill/Act of Parliament/Congress.

Do you understand the difference between a RIGHT and a FREEDOM?

--
Andrew Oakley andrew/atsymbol/aoakley/stop/com
Gloucestershire, UK

Brenda Ann August 19th 05 10:50 AM


"Andrew Oakley" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:11:11 -0500, wrote:

Look,if you have the equipment to listen to anything,,, that is your
RIGHT to listen in.


No, you have the FREEDOM to listen in.

It's only a RIGHT if there are laws to back it up, such as a
Constitution or a Bill/Act of Parliament/Congress.

Do you understand the difference between a RIGHT and a FREEDOM?

--


Actually, rights are given by birth [God given], Freedom is the ability to
act upon those rights.




David August 19th 05 02:27 PM

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:11:31 GMT, Andrew Oakley
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:11:11 -0500, wrote:

Look,if you have the equipment to listen to anything,,, that is your
RIGHT to listen in.


No, you have the FREEDOM to listen in.

It's only a RIGHT if there are laws to back it up, such as a
Constitution or a Bill/Act of Parliament/Congress.

Do you understand the difference between a RIGHT and a FREEDOM?


There is none in a perfect world. That being said, ''freedom'' is a
relative concept. A right is something you are born with.


David August 19th 05 02:28 PM

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:50:44 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:



"Andrew Oakley" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:11:11 -0500, wrote:

Look,if you have the equipment to listen to anything,,, that is your
RIGHT to listen in.


No, you have the FREEDOM to listen in.

It's only a RIGHT if there are laws to back it up, such as a
Constitution or a Bill/Act of Parliament/Congress.

Do you understand the difference between a RIGHT and a FREEDOM?

--


Actually, rights are given by birth [God given], Freedom is the ability to
act upon those rights.


The concept of a God ''granting'' rights makes no sense.

My rights are inherent.



RHF August 19th 05 04:32 PM

DaviD - " My rights are inherent. "

Andrew Oakley August 20th 05 08:51 AM

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:50:44 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"Andrew Oakley" wrote in message
.. .
It's only a RIGHT if there are laws to back it up, such as a
Constitution or a Bill/Act of Parliament/Congress.

Actually, rights are given by birth [God given], Freedom is the ability to
act upon those rights.


Ah, now I understand where I'm having trouble understanding this
conversation. Am I right in now thinking that Cuhilin and yourself see
this as a religious issue?

In the UK there is a theoretical seperation of church and state
(although strictly speaking the Church of England is part of the
government, and funded through taxes). Therefore the concept of any
right being "god-given" would be an abuse of politics, since it is
generally frowned upon to mix religion and democratic politics (we do
have a meritocratic parliamentary body called the House of Lords which
does include Church of England Bishops though).

Religion aside - is there actually a section in the US constitution
that states that a person has a LEGAL right to listen to any
transmission?

That's what I though Cuhilin was talking about, and that struck me as
odd; it would have all kinds of consequences regarding the
legalisation of hacking.

--
Andrew Oakley

Andrew Oakley August 20th 05 08:53 AM

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:03:08 -0500, "Stinger"
wrote:
wrote in message
...
Every American Citizen has the RIGHT to listen to ANY and ALL Electronic
Transmissions,Period!

Actually, you don't, cuhulin.

Newer radio scanners for the public are required by law not to be capable of
eavesdropping on cellular phone frequencies. Many states have outlawed
radar detectors (which, of course, do nothing but listen for an electronic
transmission).


Thank-you! That's what I was trying to determine. Looks like the US
laws are pretty much the same as the UK ones; you're only allowed to
listen to specifically designated bands.

So, the reality is: "Every American citizen SHOULD have the right to listen
to any and all electronic transmissions, period."


Maybe. Would have some pretty drastic implications on hacking and
privacy law until use of encryption becomes defacto.

--
Andrew Oakley

Brenda Ann August 20th 05 12:47 PM


"Andrew Oakley" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:50:44 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"Andrew Oakley" wrote in message
.. .
It's only a RIGHT if there are laws to back it up, such as a
Constitution or a Bill/Act of Parliament/Congress.

Actually, rights are given by birth [God given], Freedom is the ability

to
act upon those rights.


Ah, now I understand where I'm having trouble understanding this
conversation. Am I right in now thinking that Cuhilin and yourself see
this as a religious issue?

In the UK there is a theoretical seperation of church and state
(although strictly speaking the Church of England is part of the
government, and funded through taxes). Therefore the concept of any
right being "god-given" would be an abuse of politics, since it is
generally frowned upon to mix religion and democratic politics (we do
have a meritocratic parliamentary body called the House of Lords which
does include Church of England Bishops though).

Religion aside - is there actually a section in the US constitution
that states that a person has a LEGAL right to listen to any
transmission?

That's what I though Cuhilin was talking about, and that struck me as
odd; it would have all kinds of consequences regarding the
legalisation of hacking.



I put the 'God given' in brackets because it's a common phrase used to
denote something that we are given as a birthright.




[email protected] August 20th 05 01:22 PM

Whatever kinds of equipment you have that can pick up whatever kinds of
electronic transmission data,it is your Right and your FREEDOM to listen
in to whatever kinds of electronic transmission data.
cuhulin


David August 20th 05 02:27 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 20:47:58 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


I put the 'God given' in brackets because it's a common phrase used to
denote something that we are given as a birthright.



The idea that a right to freedom needs to be granted by a ''supreme
being'' is oxymoronic.


Andrew Oakley August 20th 05 03:44 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:27:32 GMT, David wrote:
The idea that a right to freedom needs to be granted by a ''supreme
being'' is oxymoronic.


Going waaaay off topic, being a humanist (sort of like an atheist, but
with morals) I have a problem with the whole "supreme being" thing.

I got stopped by a Christian preacher in the street earlier this year,
in Glastonbury [1] of all places, asking me whether I believed in God.

I said "You define God, and I'll tell you whether I believe in it or
not."

The stupid thing was - he couldn't define God. This guy had devoted
his entire life to something he couldn't even define. If he'd had said
"Well, God is a metaphor that I use to describe the emergent patterns
[2] of human behaviour that assist with our species' survival, such as
philanthropy [3]" then I'd have bought in to it. But the chap
obviously hadn't actually considered what a god was.

[1] A town closely associated with pre-Christian native North European
religions and their "new age" revivals. Hippy central. Makes San
Francisco look very conservative.

[2] Emergent patterns are part of Chaos theory, they are larger
effects caused by a combination of huge numbers of very small effects.
For instance, there are more people who like babies than there are who
dislike babies, and this small effect produces a larger effect of most
babies being protected from harm.

[3] The act of being nice to people without expecting a reward.

--
Andrew Oakley

David August 20th 05 04:07 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:44:31 +0100, Andrew Oakley
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:27:32 GMT, David wrote:
The idea that a right to freedom needs to be granted by a ''supreme
being'' is oxymoronic.


Going waaaay off topic, being a humanist (sort of like an atheist, but
with morals) I have a problem with the whole "supreme being" thing.

I got stopped by a Christian preacher in the street earlier this year,
in Glastonbury [1] of all places, asking me whether I believed in God.

I said "You define God, and I'll tell you whether I believe in it or
not."

The stupid thing was - he couldn't define God. This guy had devoted
his entire life to something he couldn't even define. If he'd had said
"Well, God is a metaphor that I use to describe the emergent patterns
[2] of human behaviour that assist with our species' survival, such as
philanthropy [3]" then I'd have bought in to it. But the chap
obviously hadn't actually considered what a god was.

[1] A town closely associated with pre-Christian native North European
religions and their "new age" revivals. Hippy central. Makes San
Francisco look very conservative.

[2] Emergent patterns are part of Chaos theory, they are larger
effects caused by a combination of huge numbers of very small effects.
For instance, there are more people who like babies than there are who
dislike babies, and this small effect produces a larger effect of most
babies being protected from harm.

[3] The act of being nice to people without expecting a reward.


The closest I've ever come to ''believing'' is when I'm ''heaving'',
aka praying at the porcelain altar.

http://www.wright.edu/housing/genera...Toilet_JPG.htm


Mark Zenier August 20th 05 06:57 PM

In article ,
Andrew Oakley wrote:
Thank-you! That's what I was trying to determine. Looks like the US
laws are pretty much the same as the UK ones; you're only allowed to
listen to specifically designated bands.


It was more general than that. The section in the Communications Act
of 1934 set the policy for many years that you could listen to anything
(on the radio) but you were not allowed to divulge it to a third party
or otherwise act on what you heard. (Tapping wire communications was
always illegal).

It was a strange patchwork. Setting up a satellite dish back in the
60's and 70's was treated as more like wiretapping than reception, as
the receiving equipment was not commonly available and the band used
was lisenced for Point to Point use, so receivers were supposed to
be liscened. So BUD TVRO systems were sort of a civil disobedience
thing until they were legalized.

In the mid-late 1980s the cell phone industry paid Congress for the
"Electronics Communications Privacy Act" which criminalized listening
to cell phone calls and made receivers that could receive cell phone
calls contraband.


Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)



Honus August 21st 05 02:57 AM


"Andrew Oakley" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:27:32 GMT, David wrote:
The idea that a right to freedom needs to be granted by a ''supreme
being'' is oxymoronic.


Going waaaay off topic, being a humanist (sort of like an atheist, but
with morals)


I'm getting really tired of hearing that. I'm an atheist, and I have morals.
I'd appreciate if you'd reconsider the phrase. ;)



David August 21st 05 05:19 PM

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:57:40 GMT, (Mark Zenier)
wrote:



In the mid-late 1980s the cell phone industry paid Congress for the
"Electronics Communications Privacy Act" which criminalized listening
to cell phone calls and made receivers that could receive cell phone
calls contraband.


Mark Zenier

Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

Rather than build more secure phones, they just got a law passed.


Honus August 21st 05 07:05 PM


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:57:15 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


I'm getting really tired of hearing that. I'm an atheist,




That figures!


What's really funny is that if you had a fraction of the intellect that you
think you do, you'd realize that wasn't a slam on me at all. Even your own
miserable attempts at witticisms go over your head.



Beerbarrel August 22nd 05 05:47 PM

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:09:15 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:05:15 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 01:57:15 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


I'm getting really tired of hearing that. I'm an atheist,



That figures!

What's really funny is that if you had a fraction of the intellect that

you
think you do, you'd realize that wasn't a slam on me at all. Even your

own
miserable attempts at witticisms go over your head.



Hey, I never said I was intelligent. However, I am smart enough to
know that you are the group pin head.


Which only goes to show how dumb you really are.



Like I said.....I ain't no physiscist, but I knows what matters It
ain't you.

Beerbarrel August 23rd 05 04:14 AM

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:03:14 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .

Like I said.....I ain't no physiscist, but I knows what matters It
ain't you.


Oh, you can call yourself a physiscist if you want to. No one will complain,
or correct you. At least I won't.




See what I mean? I actually thought that you would have been too
stupid to catch that. Congrats on picking up that part of the joke.

What's funny is that if I'm so dumb why do you continue having a
conversation with me? As a matter of fact, all the folks you call dumb
are the only ones that you converse with except for Mike and we all
know that he is missing a few tools from the shed.

Honus August 23rd 05 04:21 AM


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:03:14 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .

Like I said.....I ain't no physiscist, but I knows what matters It
ain't you.


Oh, you can call yourself a physiscist if you want to. No one will

complain,
or correct you. At least I won't.




See what I mean? I actually thought that you would have been too
stupid to catch that. Congrats on picking up that part of the joke.


What's -really- dumb is you trying to pretend that your mistake was
intentional.

What's funny is that if I'm so dumb why do you continue having a
conversation with me?


I'm easily entertained.

As a matter of fact, all the folks you call dumb
are the only ones that you converse with except for Mike and we all
know that he is missing a few tools from the shed.


And again, we see your deficiencies in the area of reading for
comprehension. That's patently untrue, but you'll never admit it. I can live
with that.




Beerbarrel August 23rd 05 10:05 AM

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:21:11 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:03:14 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .

Like I said.....I ain't no physiscist, but I knows what matters It
ain't you.

Oh, you can call yourself a physiscist if you want to. No one will

complain,
or correct you. At least I won't.




See what I mean? I actually thought that you would have been too
stupid to catch that. Congrats on picking up that part of the joke.


What's -really- dumb is you trying to pretend that your mistake was
intentional.


No...what's really dumb is your lack of ability to catch it.



What's funny is that if I'm so dumb why do you continue having a
conversation with me?


I'm easily entertained.



I'll say. I can't tell that by your childish responses.



As a matter of fact, all the folks you call dumb
are the only ones that you converse with except for Mike and we all
know that he is missing a few tools from the shed.


And again, we see your deficiencies in the area of reading for
comprehension. That's patently untrue, but you'll never admit it. I can live that.



Truth hurts don't it Honkus? I do believe that it is time to put
Ace's tard label on you.

I do have one simle question for you though. Do you even own a radio?

Honus August 23rd 05 03:13 PM


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:21:11 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:03:14 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .

Like I said.....I ain't no physiscist, but I knows what matters It
ain't you.

Oh, you can call yourself a physiscist if you want to. No one will

complain,
or correct you. At least I won't.




See what I mean? I actually thought that you would have been too
stupid to catch that. Congrats on picking up that part of the joke.


What's -really- dumb is you trying to pretend that your mistake was
intentional.


No...what's really dumb is your lack of ability to catch it.


No, what's -really- dumb is you saying that I lack the ability to catch it
when just a few lines above this you congratulate me for catching it!!

What's funny is that if I'm so dumb why do you continue having a
conversation with me?


I'm easily entertained.



I'll say. I can't tell that by your childish responses.


You're projecting again. You asked me why I bother with you if you're such a
dolt; I ask you the same thing.


As a matter of fact, all the folks you call dumb
are the only ones that you converse with except for Mike and we all
know that he is missing a few tools from the shed.


And again, we see your deficiencies in the area of reading for
comprehension. That's patently untrue, but you'll never admit it. I can

live that.


Truth hurts don't it Honkus? I do believe that it is time to put
Ace's tard label on you.


The truth hurts? From you? I'll let you know...after I see some.

I do have one simle question for you though. Do you even own a radio?


I do indeed, and if you'd been paying attention you'd know that I do on
occasion converse with people here other than the two village idiots, namely
cuhulin and yourself. You just can't help but put your foot in it, can you?
It's truly amazing how often you damn yourself with your own words. Little
words, but still.




Beerbarrel August 23rd 05 03:44 PM

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:13:24 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:21:11 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:03:14 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
.. .

Like I said.....I ain't no physiscist, but I knows what matters It
ain't you.

Oh, you can call yourself a physiscist if you want to. No one will
complain,
or correct you. At least I won't.




See what I mean? I actually thought that you would have been too
stupid to catch that. Congrats on picking up that part of the joke.

What's -really- dumb is you trying to pretend that your mistake was
intentional.


No...what's really dumb is your lack of ability to catch it.


No, what's -really- dumb is you saying that I lack the ability to catch it
when just a few lines above this you congratulate me for catching it!!

What's funny is that if I'm so dumb why do you continue having a
conversation with me?

I'm easily entertained.



I'll say. I can't tell that by your childish responses.


You're projecting again. You asked me why I bother with you if you're such a
dolt; I ask you the same thing.


As a matter of fact, all the folks you call dumb
are the only ones that you converse with except for Mike and we all
know that he is missing a few tools from the shed.

And again, we see your deficiencies in the area of reading for
comprehension. That's patently untrue, but you'll never admit it. I can

live that.


Truth hurts don't it Honkus? I do believe that it is time to put
Ace's tard label on you.


The truth hurts? From you? I'll let you know...after I see some.

I do have one simle question for you though. Do you even own a radio?


I do indeed, and if you'd been paying attention you'd know that I do on
occasion converse with people here other than the two village idiots, namely
cuhulin and yourself. You just can't help but put your foot in it, can you?
It's truly amazing how often you damn yourself with your own words. Little
words, but still.





I can see by your responses that you are grasping at straws. Remember,
Degens don't count.

Tote it tard......hahahaha

[email protected] August 23rd 05 04:22 PM

y'all,,,, Honus started that crap.I am saying again,,,,,, I do NOT! mess
around with my little female dog! www.cattledog.com
cuhulin


Beerbarrel August 23rd 05 04:31 PM


I do indeed, and if you'd been paying attention you'd know that I do on
occasion converse with people here other than the two village idiots, namely
cuhulin and yourself.


It's difficult to pay attention when 99.9 percent of the posts that
YOU make are childish responses to others. It gets tiring wading
through all the useless mumbo jumbo that you post just to search for a
radio post by you. Do you actually have another life other than
usenet?




You just can't help but put your foot in it, can you?
It's truly amazing how often you damn yourself with your own words. Little
words, but still.



You just can't help responding can you? It's like leading a baby with
candy....no wait you are a baby no wonder it works so well.

Go tote that boom box boy!

[email protected] August 23rd 05 04:31 PM

There are some guys out there who have smarts enough to build anything
that can pick up everything.I think I know of at least three of them
whom get in this rec.radio.shortwave news group and they know who they
are.
cuhulin


[email protected] August 23rd 05 04:33 PM

Watch out beer barrel,that's DxAce's line.
cuhulin


Beerbarrel August 23rd 05 04:50 PM

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 10:33:40 -0500, wrote:

Watch out beer barrel,that's DxAce's line.
cuhulin




I know. I had to borrow it because honkus is a card carrying toter
with a tecsun.

Honus August 24th 05 01:36 AM


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
...

I do indeed, and if you'd been paying attention you'd know that I do on
occasion converse with people here other than the two village idiots,

namely
cuhulin and yourself.


It's difficult to pay attention when 99.9 percent of the posts that
YOU make are childish responses to others. It gets tiring wading
through all the useless mumbo jumbo that you post just to search for a
radio post by you. Do you actually have another life other than
usenet?


Then killfile me. Do you -really- need to be told that?

You just can't help but put your foot in it, can you?
It's truly amazing how often you damn yourself with your own words.

Little
words, but still.



You just can't help responding can you? It's like leading a baby with
candy....no wait you are a baby no wonder it works so well.

Go tote that boom box boy!


Impressive. Not only can you not come up with your own material, you pick
the most cliched stuff in this corner of Usenet. You really do need help. Or
more beer.



Honus August 24th 05 01:44 AM


wrote in message
...
y'all,,,, Honus started that crap.I am saying again,,,,,, I do NOT! mess
around with my little female dog! www.cattledog.com
cuhulin


Liar.

You started it, right he

http://www.bianca.com/interests/wome...612/10612.html

quote

Date: Fri Feb 27 03:00:27 2004
From: Flower
Subject:
i am 15 years old female and i want to have sex with my neighbors three male
german sheapard dogs.is that ok?

/quote

Quit trying to blame me. You're the idiot for not changing your handle
before you posted.



Beerbarrel August 24th 05 01:48 AM

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:44:28 GMT, "Honus"
wrote:


wrote in message
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y'all,,,, Honus started that crap.I am saying again,,,,,, I do NOT! mess
around with my little female dog! www.cattledog.com
cuhulin


Liar.

You started it, right he

http://www.bianca.com/interests/wome...612/10612.html

quote

Date: Fri Feb 27 03:00:27 2004
From: Flower
Subject:
i am 15 years old female and i want to have sex with my neighbors three male
german sheapard dogs.is that ok?

/quote

Quit trying to blame me. You're the idiot for not changing your handle
before you posted.

But you don't stop even when your not being spoken too.


Go tote that Tecsun!


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