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RHF September 6th 05 12:41 AM

Carter - Last time I looked Rice was the Secretary of State.

RHF September 6th 05 05:46 AM

Cuhulin - Just saw "BB" on TV with GHWB ~ RHF
. . . . .


Lucky September 6th 05 04:00 PM


"Greg" wrote in message
...


From: dxAce
Organization: Wassamatta U.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:52:24 -0400
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans



John Plimmer wrote:

This is the headline from this BBC report
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210674.stm

I am proud to say that as a little old South African in a third world
country at the Southern tip of darkest Africa we had a devastating flood
in
my little town in 2002.
The skies had not even cleared from the raging storm when the air force
choppers arrived in force.
They rescued those in need, brought in emergency personnel and special
riot
police to prevent looting.
Although the flood put out water supplies, washed away our connecting
roads,
power and sewerage systems, mighty teams of specialists arrived within
hours
and all services were restored within 48 hours except the roads that
took a
few days longer. The choppers brought in food until the roads were
reconstructed.

I felt very proud to be a South African at that time and was immensely
grateful for the smooth running and super national rescue effort that
took
place seemingly so easily, like a well oiled machine.

What happened to mighty America...???


Well, we're still here... and guess what? You're still in a third world
country
that can't take care of it's own problems... do a Google on AIDS or a
host of
other problems. And guess where your little third world country has
begged in
the past? The USA. Guess where it will continue to beg in the future? The
USA.

We'll be OK... I can't really say the same for South Africa.

What did the Federal Emergency Management Agency do...???


Exactly what they're supposed to do, considering the enormity of the
problem.

Heads should roll for this debacle - it is inexcusable in a superpower
with
all America's vast resources.


I guess we'll have to decide that issue. It certainly won't be up to you
or a
third world country like South Africa to decide whether heads should or
will
roll.

Have a pleasant evening.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Um, Jack, you gotta realize that if you criticize our country a lot of
people, like the Drakeman, are going to get ****ed. You're going to catch
a
lot of heat. It's the "our country is better than your country" attitude.

The truth is, the enormity of the problem is more than the emergency
agencies had ever planned for and they are still, at this late date,
having
trouble getting their arms around it. The lack of leadership, starting
with
the president and FEMA head Michael Brown is so appalling that even
conservatives are calling for their heads. The Prez, probably at the
urging
of his handlers, cancelled his vacation and flew over the hurricane
ravaged
Gulf Coast. After considerable criticism he started making more
appearances
on camera with other federal and local officials, with lots of
back-slapping
and promises. But relief is slow and sporatic. Michael Brown admitted on
a
television interview that he was unaware that 20,000 people had been told
to
go to the convention center and wait for help. They were abandodned there
for days without food & water. He said in the interview he would take
immediate action. It was several days before help finally arrived.
Michael
Brown belongs in prison. Despite what the right-wing apologists on this
NG
might tell you, the truth is if Bush were running for re-election he would
be soundly defeated, as a result of his lack of leadership in this
enormous
tragedy as well as dissatisfaction with his handling of the Iraq situation
in the opinion of the majority of Americans.

Brace yourself - gratuitous flaming to follow.

Greg


Morning Greg

And how the head leader of "HomeLand Security" Michael Chertoff that the bow
legged hick put in charge. Even Bill O Reilly said this guy should be fired.
He had "no idea" what was going on even though it was ALL OVER THE TV ON
EVERY CHANNEL and ON THE FRONT PAGE OF EVERY NEWPAPER. He had "no idea"
people were abandoned in the Superdome.

Of course, we know he is a blatant liar like his boss bush. That has to be
the lamest excuse I ever heard. Everybody knew what was going on in NO, BUT,
the HEAD of our "Homeland Security" didn't know what was going on. If it's
true he's the most inept moron in the world in charge of our protection. If
it's a lie, he is still the most inept moron in charge of your families
protection but is also a biggot and doesn't actually believe in his faith.
Gee I thought bush {Flight Suit Man} only appointed "righteous" people??

What this event did is show the world and terrorists that the bush
administration is totally inept, nothing but "talk", all about bull****,
nothing to back themselves up, no leadership, no proper critical
communications in an emergency and how they view their own poor people.

The terrorists see a target that will collapse under easy conditions. Much
easier then they thought. This event taught them much thanks to bush and his
appointed buddies.

Now YOU ARE THE TARGET EVEN MORE then before.

I am embarrassed by bush and his total administration. Yes embarrassed by
the rest of the world. G-D forbid if this was a terrorist attack of the
deadly kind. A bio or dirty bomb and bush would go hide in some bunker along
with cheney and his gay buddy Rove.

As you can see, Homeland Security is nothing but a shame put on to impress
dunmmies like dxace, beerbrain,jd and their kind. You see, they believe it
truly exists and works. They don't think this is major catastrophe in itself
besides the hurricane. They see nothing else but "bad weather". Amazing
isn't it.

Yes, people around the world and the terrorists see who we really are and
how we act under chaos and confusion under this administration.

The hurricane happened on Monday.I still can't believe that Chertoff had the
audacity, the lack of respect for the Americans people intelligence, to say
on Thurs he had NO IDEA that people were stranded in the Superdome with NO
FOOD, WATER, MEDICINES OR SECURITY.

So by Thurs, the leader, head honcho of our "Homeland Security said, "I had
no idea" blah blah blah....

Now go be good blobs of human waste and have another beer while wearing your
Radio cap and living off the public.

Lucky




[email protected] September 6th 05 04:46 PM

I just heard on local radio that at this time,only emergency personel
and utility workers will be allowed South of the Railroad tracks in
Gulfport.There is a gas leak South of the Railroad tracks.Gulfport and
Biloxi are NOT gone,they are coming back.
cuhulin


Lucky September 6th 05 04:49 PM


"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Greg wrote:
Oh yeah? You obviously didn't catch Cigar Dave yesterday (12:00 noon EDT,
970am, Tampa)! He's a conservative, Republican, Bush supporter who was so
hot with criticism he was lit at both ends.

Seriously, a common theme I'm hearing on conservative radio talk shows, as
well as the opinion mongers n the "liberal" mainstream media is that FEMA,
Homeland Security, and everyone up the food chain to POTUS his-very-self,
are ill-prepared and slow to react. This bodes ill for any more
catastrophes, natural or terrorist-made, in the future.


I've got a couple of questions?

1. How exaggerated was the TV coverage of the sniping?
How many incidents, and what areas were actually effected?

2. Did the media coveage cause the FEMA executives to shut down
access to New Orleans on the grounds of safety? If not safety,
why? And why where highway style busses needed to evacuate
the Superdome? Wouldn't a "Dunkirk with Dumptrucks" have worked
several days earlier? (Who go the contract to provide the busses?)

3. Would a lot of this not have happened this way if federal
bureaucrats were banned from watching any 24 hour cable news
channels?

CNN lost all credibilty with me during the coverage of the First Gulf War
that the local TV stations were rebroadcasting. Sloppy, overdramatic,
inaccurate, and STUPID. And to get FOX news, just add a large factor
of blatant lying and partisan propaganda. They're not news, they're a
form of "Reality TV" where the news editors and meat puppets out in the
field are making up a "story" to add drama to real events.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Yes Mark,

Fox news to me is a gov't channel. They do lie, make money by exploiting the
dead, make believe they are against a lot of things bush and his
administration does, but they do that to gain more audience by not
alienating the left completely. This means more hits for them to show
companies for commercials which means higher rates and more cash in their
greedy little pockets.

The hand pick their employees just right.
Are they "on our side"? Do they have believable and trusting faces? Can they
lie good? Are they true republican supporters?

It's funny how O Reilly exploits whatever and whomever he can. But did he
talk about the new eminent domain laws?

NO

Did he talk about Jeff Gannon, the homosexual G.I. hooker and prostitute
who had security clearance to enter and roam the White House at his own
will?

NO he never covered the topic. Never.

IF this was done by Democratics, you KNOW how he would have talked about it
for weeks in a row. Look how they covered Clinton and his little affair? Can
you just imagine what these holy right wingers would have done with this
story were it Dems who did it??

The media in this country is tightly controlled. They are owned and run by
highly motivated political power players like Rupert Murdoch. News Corp and
Fox news for example.

Take our radio stations. The majority are run by a couple companies and
people with political connections.

You can't get the real truth anymore. At least on SW you can get some real
views by outside governments who are NOT SCARED of bush and his power
connections. Good for them.

But, as David stated here once, they are trying to do away with that source
of info too.

Lucky




Lucky September 6th 05 04:55 PM


"Carter-K8VT" wrote in message
...

You're reading waaay too much into this...let me try to summarize:

1) The *original* poster made the comment that W and Condi were gadding
about.

2) *You* then posted that Slick Willy was gadding about.

3) *I* then posted that your comment about Slick Willy was not germane to
the conversation because he, by virtue of being a plain citizen, is in
charge of nothing.

-=jd=- wrote:

Then what's your point?


My point is that your comment about Slick Willy was a non sequitur.

Simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Get it now?


He doesn't know **how to get it. He doesn't see it, feel it, or understand
what you are trying to say to him. Waste of time IMO but I think you're
astute enough to find that out on your own.

He used that on me too. He has nothing of substance to say in his defense of
the topic. So, he pulls whatever he can out of his ass, not his brain. Next,
he'll be attacking you personally.

Lucky



[email protected] September 6th 05 04:57 PM

What we need is nienty nine point nienty nine percent LESS govt.Starting
from the top level down.They should ALL be FIRED.So,I wonder where bush
will be having his stupid staged Photo Ops today? I hope he stays OUT!
of Mississippi so Mississippi can get on with rebuilding after Katrina.
cuhulin


dxAce September 6th 05 05:06 PM



Lucky wrote:

"Greg" wrote in message
...


From: dxAce
Organization: Wassamatta U.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:52:24 -0400
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans



John Plimmer wrote:

This is the headline from this BBC report
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4210674.stm

I am proud to say that as a little old South African in a third world
country at the Southern tip of darkest Africa we had a devastating flood
in
my little town in 2002.
The skies had not even cleared from the raging storm when the air force
choppers arrived in force.
They rescued those in need, brought in emergency personnel and special
riot
police to prevent looting.
Although the flood put out water supplies, washed away our connecting
roads,
power and sewerage systems, mighty teams of specialists arrived within
hours
and all services were restored within 48 hours except the roads that
took a
few days longer. The choppers brought in food until the roads were
reconstructed.

I felt very proud to be a South African at that time and was immensely
grateful for the smooth running and super national rescue effort that
took
place seemingly so easily, like a well oiled machine.

What happened to mighty America...???

Well, we're still here... and guess what? You're still in a third world
country
that can't take care of it's own problems... do a Google on AIDS or a
host of
other problems. And guess where your little third world country has
begged in
the past? The USA. Guess where it will continue to beg in the future? The
USA.

We'll be OK... I can't really say the same for South Africa.

What did the Federal Emergency Management Agency do...???

Exactly what they're supposed to do, considering the enormity of the
problem.

Heads should roll for this debacle - it is inexcusable in a superpower
with
all America's vast resources.

I guess we'll have to decide that issue. It certainly won't be up to you
or a
third world country like South Africa to decide whether heads should or
will
roll.

Have a pleasant evening.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Um, Jack, you gotta realize that if you criticize our country a lot of
people, like the Drakeman, are going to get ****ed. You're going to catch
a
lot of heat. It's the "our country is better than your country" attitude.

The truth is, the enormity of the problem is more than the emergency
agencies had ever planned for and they are still, at this late date,
having
trouble getting their arms around it. The lack of leadership, starting
with
the president and FEMA head Michael Brown is so appalling that even
conservatives are calling for their heads. The Prez, probably at the
urging
of his handlers, cancelled his vacation and flew over the hurricane
ravaged
Gulf Coast. After considerable criticism he started making more
appearances
on camera with other federal and local officials, with lots of
back-slapping
and promises. But relief is slow and sporatic. Michael Brown admitted on
a
television interview that he was unaware that 20,000 people had been told
to
go to the convention center and wait for help. They were abandodned there
for days without food & water. He said in the interview he would take
immediate action. It was several days before help finally arrived.
Michael
Brown belongs in prison. Despite what the right-wing apologists on this
NG
might tell you, the truth is if Bush were running for re-election he would
be soundly defeated, as a result of his lack of leadership in this
enormous
tragedy as well as dissatisfaction with his handling of the Iraq situation
in the opinion of the majority of Americans.

Brace yourself - gratuitous flaming to follow.

Greg


Morning Greg

And how the head leader of "HomeLand Security" Michael Chertoff that the bow
legged hick put in charge. Even Bill O Reilly said this guy should be fired.
He had "no idea" what was going on even though it was ALL OVER THE TV ON
EVERY CHANNEL and ON THE FRONT PAGE OF EVERY NEWPAPER. He had "no idea"
people were abandoned in the Superdome.

Of course, we know he is a blatant liar like his boss bush. That has to be
the lamest excuse I ever heard. Everybody knew what was going on in NO, BUT,
the HEAD of our "Homeland Security" didn't know what was going on. If it's
true he's the most inept moron in the world in charge of our protection. If
it's a lie, he is still the most inept moron in charge of your families
protection but is also a biggot and doesn't actually believe in his faith.
Gee I thought bush {Flight Suit Man} only appointed "righteous" people??

What this event did is show the world and terrorists that the bush
administration is totally inept, nothing but "talk", all about bull****,
nothing to back themselves up, no leadership, no proper critical
communications in an emergency and how they view their own poor people.

The terrorists see a target that will collapse under easy conditions. Much
easier then they thought. This event taught them much thanks to bush and his
appointed buddies.

Now YOU ARE THE TARGET EVEN MORE then before.

I am embarrassed by bush and his total administration. Yes embarrassed by
the rest of the world. G-D forbid if this was a terrorist attack of the
deadly kind. A bio or dirty bomb and bush would go hide in some bunker along
with cheney and his gay buddy Rove.

As you can see, Homeland Security is nothing but a shame put on to impress
dunmmies like dxace, beerbrain,jd and their kind. You see, they believe it
truly exists and works. They don't think this is major catastrophe in itself
besides the hurricane. They see nothing else but "bad weather". Amazing
isn't it.

Yes, people around the world and the terrorists see who we really are and
how we act under chaos and confusion under this administration.

The hurricane happened on Monday.I still can't believe that Chertoff had the
audacity, the lack of respect for the Americans people intelligence, to say
on Thurs he had NO IDEA that people were stranded in the Superdome with NO
FOOD, WATER, MEDICINES OR SECURITY.

So by Thurs, the leader, head honcho of our "Homeland Security said, "I had
no idea" blah blah blah....

Now go be good blobs of human waste and have another beer while wearing your
Radio cap and living off the public.


The other day it was a Diego Garcia cap, today it's a radio cap.

You are one delusional ****stain there boy!

Now go take your meds and calm down.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



John S. September 6th 05 06:12 PM


RHF wrote:
Carter - Last time I looked Rice was the Secretary of State.
.
So... Tell Me "Carter" Is the City of New Orleans a Nation-State
that requires her personal attention ? Or ar you just looking
to blame some one in the Bush Administration who happens to be
and African-America (Black) ?
.



Rice has no place in NO offering pronouncements on a domestic policy
issue and being seen loading groceries into a pickup for photo op's.
But Bush is quite adept at playing race cards as needed. Also look at
the verbally challenged Light General Russell Honore who heads the
rescue effort. Not a random choice imho.


dxAce September 6th 05 06:54 PM



Lucky wrote:

"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Greg wrote:
Oh yeah? You obviously didn't catch Cigar Dave yesterday (12:00 noon EDT,
970am, Tampa)! He's a conservative, Republican, Bush supporter who was so
hot with criticism he was lit at both ends.

Seriously, a common theme I'm hearing on conservative radio talk shows, as
well as the opinion mongers n the "liberal" mainstream media is that FEMA,
Homeland Security, and everyone up the food chain to POTUS his-very-self,
are ill-prepared and slow to react. This bodes ill for any more
catastrophes, natural or terrorist-made, in the future.


I've got a couple of questions?

1. How exaggerated was the TV coverage of the sniping?
How many incidents, and what areas were actually effected?

2. Did the media coveage cause the FEMA executives to shut down
access to New Orleans on the grounds of safety? If not safety,
why? And why where highway style busses needed to evacuate
the Superdome? Wouldn't a "Dunkirk with Dumptrucks" have worked
several days earlier? (Who go the contract to provide the busses?)

3. Would a lot of this not have happened this way if federal
bureaucrats were banned from watching any 24 hour cable news
channels?

CNN lost all credibilty with me during the coverage of the First Gulf War
that the local TV stations were rebroadcasting. Sloppy, overdramatic,
inaccurate, and STUPID. And to get FOX news, just add a large factor
of blatant lying and partisan propaganda. They're not news, they're a
form of "Reality TV" where the news editors and meat puppets out in the
field are making up a "story" to add drama to real events.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


Yes Mark,

Fox news to me is a gov't channel. They do lie, make money by exploiting the
dead, make believe they are against a lot of things bush and his
administration does, but they do that to gain more audience by not
alienating the left completely. This means more hits for them to show
companies for commercials which means higher rates and more cash in their
greedy little pockets.

The hand pick their employees just right.
Are they "on our side"? Do they have believable and trusting faces? Can they
lie good? Are they true republican supporters?

It's funny how O Reilly exploits whatever and whomever he can. But did he
talk about the new eminent domain laws?

NO

Did he talk about Jeff Gannon, the homosexual G.I. hooker and prostitute
who had security clearance to enter and roam the White House at his own
will?

NO he never covered the topic. Never.

IF this was done by Democratics, you KNOW how he would have talked about it
for weeks in a row. Look how they covered Clinton and his little affair? Can
you just imagine what these holy right wingers would have done with this
story were it Dems who did it??

The media in this country is tightly controlled. They are owned and run by
highly motivated political power players like Rupert Murdoch. News Corp and
Fox news for example.

Take our radio stations. The majority are run by a couple companies and
people with political connections.

You can't get the real truth anymore. At least on SW you can get some real
views by outside governments who are NOT SCARED of bush and his power
connections. Good for them.

But, as David stated here once, they are trying to do away with that source
of info too.


Calm down and take your meds.

By the way, after that eBay debacle and the current bunch of crap you're spewing
here, wouldn't you think it appropriate to change your name from "Lucky" to
"Stupid"?

Now run along and see if mommy will let you pretend you're playing with your
radio.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce September 6th 05 06:56 PM



"John S." wrote:

RHF wrote:
Carter - Last time I looked Rice was the Secretary of State.
.
So... Tell Me "Carter" Is the City of New Orleans a Nation-State
that requires her personal attention ? Or ar you just looking
to blame some one in the Bush Administration who happens to be
and African-America (Black) ?
.


Rice has no place in NO offering pronouncements on a domestic policy
issue and being seen loading groceries into a pickup for photo op's.
But Bush is quite adept at playing race cards as needed. Also look at
the verbally challenged Light General Russell Honore who heads the
rescue effort. Not a random choice imho.


Honore seems to be getting things done... that'll really **** you liberal
****stains off won't it!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



John S. September 6th 05 08:02 PM


dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

RHF wrote:
Carter - Last time I looked Rice was the Secretary of State.
.
So... Tell Me "Carter" Is the City of New Orleans a Nation-State
that requires her personal attention ? Or ar you just looking
to blame some one in the Bush Administration who happens to be
and African-America (Black) ?
.


Rice has no place in NO offering pronouncements on a domestic policy
issue and being seen loading groceries into a pickup for photo op's.
But Bush is quite adept at playing race cards as needed. Also look at
the verbally challenged Light General Russell Honore who heads the
rescue effort. Not a random choice imho.


Honore seems to be getting things done... that'll really **** you liberal
****stains off won't it!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


The work is getting done, but he isn't contributing much....other than
being a figurehead


dxAce September 6th 05 08:14 PM



"John S." wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"John S." wrote:

RHF wrote:
Carter - Last time I looked Rice was the Secretary of State.
.
So... Tell Me "Carter" Is the City of New Orleans a Nation-State
that requires her personal attention ? Or ar you just looking
to blame some one in the Bush Administration who happens to be
and African-America (Black) ?
.

Rice has no place in NO offering pronouncements on a domestic policy
issue and being seen loading groceries into a pickup for photo op's.
But Bush is quite adept at playing race cards as needed. Also look at
the verbally challenged Light General Russell Honore who heads the
rescue effort. Not a random choice imho.


Honore seems to be getting things done... that'll really **** you liberal
****stains off won't it!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


The work is getting done, but he isn't contributing much....other than
being a figurehead


That was an excellent ****stain answer!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



RHF September 6th 05 08:23 PM

JohnS.,

dxAce September 6th 05 10:18 PM



-=jd=- wrote:

On Tue 06 Sep 2005 11:55:58a, "Lucky" wrote in
message :


"Carter-K8VT" wrote in message
...

You're reading waaay too much into this...let me try to summarize:

1) The *original* poster made the comment that W and Condi were gadding
about.

2) *You* then posted that Slick Willy was gadding about.

3) *I* then posted that your comment about Slick Willy was not germane
to the conversation because he, by virtue of being a plain citizen, is
in charge of nothing.

-=jd=- wrote:

Then what's your point?

My point is that your comment about Slick Willy was a non sequitur.

Simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Get it now?


He doesn't know **how to get it. He doesn't see it, feel it, or
understand what you are trying to say to him. Waste of time IMO but I
think you're astute enough to find that out on your own.


Hmmmm... No substance or facts there... Just emotional outburst...

He used that on me too. He has nothing of substance to say in his
defense of the topic. So, he pulls whatever he can out of his ass, not
his brain. Next, he'll be attacking you personally.


Yet more emotional outburst, devoid of fact or substance. Yet, I have
resoundingly spanked the allegations, complete with references and
documentation. I know, you hate it wen I "muddy" the issue with the facts.
Speaking of facts, you seem to be completely bereft of *any* facts and can
only repeat emotional opinions concerning Bush's lack of playing the "I
Feel Your Pain(c)" act. You have publicly demonstrated that you ONLY
appreciate symbolism over substance. Your complaint is not that Bush was
mugging for the cameras, but that he wasn't mugging for your preferred
choice of cameras. You serve no purpose but to lump yourself into the same
group who insist on playing the "Bash-Bush-Blame-Game" before the full
body-count is even known. Enjoy your politicial sniping on the backs of the
dead and homeless.


I'm intrigued about these *photo ops*. Who are the photographs being taken by?
Does the President *order* those photo's to be taken?

Aren't the photo's being taken primarily by the liberal press? And if so, who is
staging what, and who is actually *mugging*?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 6th 05 10:52 PM

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:35:14 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



I personally think all you ****stain liberal 'tards should lay low (and take
your meds).

dxAce

I think all you Commie *******s should die slowly and pinfully.

So there.

Nyah!


dxAce September 7th 05 03:47 AM



Greg wrote:

From: "-=jd=-"
Organization: Little... If any...
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:06:26 GMT
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans

On Tue 06 Sep 2005 05:18:30p, dxAce wrote in
message :



-=jd=- wrote:

On Tue 06 Sep 2005 11:55:58a, "Lucky" wrote
in message :


"Carter-K8VT" wrote in message
...

You're reading waaay too much into this...let me try to summarize:

1) The *original* poster made the comment that W and Condi were
gadding about.

2) *You* then posted that Slick Willy was gadding about.

3) *I* then posted that your comment about Slick Willy was not
germane to the conversation because he, by virtue of being a plain
citizen, is in charge of nothing.

-=jd=- wrote:

Then what's your point?

My point is that your comment about Slick Willy was a non sequitur.

Simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Get it now?

He doesn't know **how to get it. He doesn't see it, feel it, or
understand what you are trying to say to him. Waste of time IMO but I
think you're astute enough to find that out on your own.


Hmmmm... No substance or facts there... Just emotional outburst...

He used that on me too. He has nothing of substance to say in his
defense of the topic. So, he pulls whatever he can out of his ass,
not his brain. Next, he'll be attacking you personally.


Yet more emotional outburst, devoid of fact or substance. Yet, I have
resoundingly spanked the allegations, complete with references and
documentation. I know, you hate it wen I "muddy" the issue with the
facts. Speaking of facts, you seem to be completely bereft of *any*
facts and can only repeat emotional opinions concerning Bush's lack of
playing the "I Feel Your Pain(c)" act. You have publicly demonstrated
that you ONLY appreciate symbolism over substance. Your complaint is
not that Bush was mugging for the cameras, but that he wasn't mugging
for your preferred choice of cameras. You serve no purpose but to lump
yourself into the same group who insist on playing the
"Bash-Bush-Blame-Game" before the full body-count is even known. Enjoy
your politicial sniping on the backs of the dead and homeless.

I'm intrigued about these *photo ops*. Who are the photographs being
taken by? Does the President *order* those photo's to be taken?

Aren't the photo's being taken primarily by the liberal press? And if
so, who is staging what, and who is actually *mugging*?



Apparently, they are forced to crop out the SOCOM operators who have the
media at gun-point and are forcing them to so callously use their cameras
to abuse the delicate sensitivities of the shrill, squealing, hand-wringing
liberals.

-=jd=-
--
My Current Disposable Email:

(Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly)

I sure can't argue with a reasoned statement like that. jd, you're smarter
than all of us.

The POTUS is covered by a travelling press corps that goes wherever he goes.
When he's on the road, the photogs in this press corps make up the "tight
pool" and have the closest access to the POTUS. Local media are in the
media pool which doesn't normally get as close as the tight pool. Whenever
the prez makes a local appearance, it's news and is covered by all media.
It's up to individual networks, stations, and papers whether or not they use
it. It's up to the prez his-own-self what he says and how he acts.
Presumably, the media is hoping he will say/do something of substance. Not
likely, but they gotta be ready just in case. jd thinks the liberals want
dubbya to make his lips quiver. He's said that about 49 times in the past 2
days. The people in NO want him to stop posing and get control of the
situation. Haliburton wants Cheney to take control of the scene. Guess who
wins!


Who wins? Well certainly not you, ****stain. You've got loser written all over
you.

LMAO at the 'tard.

But hey, it's good comedy that shows just how feeble minded you liberal pukes
are.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 7th 05 04:08 AM

Fried chicken shortage due to hurricane. www.worldnetdaily.com No
white meat to fry,,,,,,, OK,let em roll.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 7th 05 04:27 AM

What was that you said,Mr.Plimmer? Article at www.worldnetdaily.com
Shocked Africans Wonder at Slow Aid.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 7th 05 04:40 AM

Check out that big picture at the top of the page at www.rense.com
MORON AWOL bush in the water with that Guitar.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 7th 05 04:51 AM

The 'City' Of Louisiana. www.rense.com It's enough to make a
grown man cry.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 7th 05 05:30 AM

Australian Wonders - Is New Orleans Another Spin On 9/11?
www.rense.com One guy said the Levee was blown.I dont know.
cuhulin


Greg September 7th 05 12:54 PM



From: dxAce
Organization: Wassamatta U.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:47:22 -0400
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans



Greg wrote:

From: "-=jd=-"
Organization: Little... If any...
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:06:26 GMT
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans

On Tue 06 Sep 2005 05:18:30p, dxAce wrote in
message :



-=jd=- wrote:

On Tue 06 Sep 2005 11:55:58a, "Lucky" wrote
in message :


"Carter-K8VT" wrote in message
...

You're reading waaay too much into this...let me try to summarize:

1) The *original* poster made the comment that W and Condi were
gadding about.

2) *You* then posted that Slick Willy was gadding about.

3) *I* then posted that your comment about Slick Willy was not
germane to the conversation because he, by virtue of being a plain
citizen, is in charge of nothing.

-=jd=- wrote:

Then what's your point?

My point is that your comment about Slick Willy was a non sequitur.

Simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Get it now?

He doesn't know **how to get it. He doesn't see it, feel it, or
understand what you are trying to say to him. Waste of time IMO but I
think you're astute enough to find that out on your own.


Hmmmm... No substance or facts there... Just emotional outburst...

He used that on me too. He has nothing of substance to say in his
defense of the topic. So, he pulls whatever he can out of his ass,
not his brain. Next, he'll be attacking you personally.


Yet more emotional outburst, devoid of fact or substance. Yet, I have
resoundingly spanked the allegations, complete with references and
documentation. I know, you hate it wen I "muddy" the issue with the
facts. Speaking of facts, you seem to be completely bereft of *any*
facts and can only repeat emotional opinions concerning Bush's lack of
playing the "I Feel Your Pain(c)" act. You have publicly demonstrated
that you ONLY appreciate symbolism over substance. Your complaint is
not that Bush was mugging for the cameras, but that he wasn't mugging
for your preferred choice of cameras. You serve no purpose but to lump
yourself into the same group who insist on playing the
"Bash-Bush-Blame-Game" before the full body-count is even known. Enjoy
your politicial sniping on the backs of the dead and homeless.

I'm intrigued about these *photo ops*. Who are the photographs being
taken by? Does the President *order* those photo's to be taken?

Aren't the photo's being taken primarily by the liberal press? And if
so, who is staging what, and who is actually *mugging*?



Apparently, they are forced to crop out the SOCOM operators who have the
media at gun-point and are forcing them to so callously use their cameras
to abuse the delicate sensitivities of the shrill, squealing, hand-wringing
liberals.

-=jd=-
--
My Current Disposable Email:

(Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly)

I sure can't argue with a reasoned statement like that. jd, you're smarter
than all of us.

The POTUS is covered by a travelling press corps that goes wherever he goes.
When he's on the road, the photogs in this press corps make up the "tight
pool" and have the closest access to the POTUS. Local media are in the
media pool which doesn't normally get as close as the tight pool. Whenever
the prez makes a local appearance, it's news and is covered by all media.
It's up to individual networks, stations, and papers whether or not they use
it. It's up to the prez his-own-self what he says and how he acts.
Presumably, the media is hoping he will say/do something of substance. Not
likely, but they gotta be ready just in case. jd thinks the liberals want
dubbya to make his lips quiver. He's said that about 49 times in the past 2
days. The people in NO want him to stop posing and get control of the
situation. Haliburton wants Cheney to take control of the scene. Guess who
wins!


Who wins? Well certainly not you, ****stain. You've got loser written all over
you.

LMAO at the 'tard.

But hey, it's good comedy that shows just how feeble minded you liberal pukes
are.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You got me there Drakeman. I'm not surprised you missed the point, but
don't feel embarrassed. Just blurt out some nasty words and the usual crowd
will laugh, just like in junior high school, eh?

Happy DX,

Greg


dxAce September 7th 05 01:01 PM



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: Wassamatta U.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:47:22 -0400
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans



Greg wrote:

From: "-=jd=-"
Organization: Little... If any...
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:06:26 GMT
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans

On Tue 06 Sep 2005 05:18:30p, dxAce wrote in
message :



-=jd=- wrote:

On Tue 06 Sep 2005 11:55:58a, "Lucky" wrote
in message :


"Carter-K8VT" wrote in message
...

You're reading waaay too much into this...let me try to summarize:

1) The *original* poster made the comment that W and Condi were
gadding about.

2) *You* then posted that Slick Willy was gadding about.

3) *I* then posted that your comment about Slick Willy was not
germane to the conversation because he, by virtue of being a plain
citizen, is in charge of nothing.

-=jd=- wrote:

Then what's your point?

My point is that your comment about Slick Willy was a non sequitur.

Simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Get it now?

He doesn't know **how to get it. He doesn't see it, feel it, or
understand what you are trying to say to him. Waste of time IMO but I
think you're astute enough to find that out on your own.


Hmmmm... No substance or facts there... Just emotional outburst...

He used that on me too. He has nothing of substance to say in his
defense of the topic. So, he pulls whatever he can out of his ass,
not his brain. Next, he'll be attacking you personally.


Yet more emotional outburst, devoid of fact or substance. Yet, I have
resoundingly spanked the allegations, complete with references and
documentation. I know, you hate it wen I "muddy" the issue with the
facts. Speaking of facts, you seem to be completely bereft of *any*
facts and can only repeat emotional opinions concerning Bush's lack of
playing the "I Feel Your Pain(c)" act. You have publicly demonstrated
that you ONLY appreciate symbolism over substance. Your complaint is
not that Bush was mugging for the cameras, but that he wasn't mugging
for your preferred choice of cameras. You serve no purpose but to lump
yourself into the same group who insist on playing the
"Bash-Bush-Blame-Game" before the full body-count is even known. Enjoy
your politicial sniping on the backs of the dead and homeless.

I'm intrigued about these *photo ops*. Who are the photographs being
taken by? Does the President *order* those photo's to be taken?

Aren't the photo's being taken primarily by the liberal press? And if
so, who is staging what, and who is actually *mugging*?



Apparently, they are forced to crop out the SOCOM operators who have the
media at gun-point and are forcing them to so callously use their cameras
to abuse the delicate sensitivities of the shrill, squealing, hand-wringing
liberals.

-=jd=-
--
My Current Disposable Email:

(Remove YOUR HAT to reply directly)
I sure can't argue with a reasoned statement like that. jd, you're smarter
than all of us.

The POTUS is covered by a travelling press corps that goes wherever he goes.
When he's on the road, the photogs in this press corps make up the "tight
pool" and have the closest access to the POTUS. Local media are in the
media pool which doesn't normally get as close as the tight pool. Whenever
the prez makes a local appearance, it's news and is covered by all media.
It's up to individual networks, stations, and papers whether or not they use
it. It's up to the prez his-own-self what he says and how he acts.
Presumably, the media is hoping he will say/do something of substance. Not
likely, but they gotta be ready just in case. jd thinks the liberals want
dubbya to make his lips quiver. He's said that about 49 times in the past 2
days. The people in NO want him to stop posing and get control of the
situation. Haliburton wants Cheney to take control of the scene. Guess who
wins!


Who wins? Well certainly not you, ****stain. You've got loser written all over
you.

LMAO at the 'tard.

But hey, it's good comedy that shows just how feeble minded you liberal pukes
are.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

You got me there Drakeman. I'm not surprised you missed the point, but
don't feel embarrassed.


I didn't miss a thing, ****stain... and I'm certainly not embarassed.

Just blurt out some nasty words and the usual crowd
will laugh, just like in junior high school, eh?


Best get your dumbass off to class, boy.

Happy DX,


It's always happy dx here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Greg September 7th 05 01:13 PM



From: dxAce
Organization: Wassamatta U.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:01:51 -0400
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans

Best get your dumbass off to class, boy.

Happy DX,


It's always happy dx here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drakeman, I think you take things too personally. You need to chill.

I've managed to dodge your wrath for nearly two years on this newsgroup, and
now I get tagged "tard", "****stain" (I especially like that one!) and
"dumbass" in one swell foop! A trifecta!

Thanks for the consideration!
Greg


dxAce September 7th 05 01:20 PM



Greg wrote:

From: dxAce
Organization: Wassamatta U.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:01:51 -0400
Subject: New Orleans crisis shames Americans

Best get your dumbass off to class, boy.

Happy DX,


It's always happy dx here.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Drakeman, I think you take things too personally.


No, I look at things realistically.

Now run along and post your 'president posing' and the 'Halliburton-Cheney' crap
somewhere else.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David September 8th 05 04:59 PM

On 8 Sep 2005 07:48:04 -0700, "John S." wrote:



At some point the experts have to ask the tough questions: Does it
make sense to rebuild the residential portions of New Orleans. Are
they really fit places for long term human habitation. I don't think
they are.

There's that famous American can-do attitude...


[email protected] September 8th 05 05:58 PM

Boy's lemonaid stand raises $1,000. www.worldnetdaily.com City
A..holes come along and tell them y'all don't have a license and shut it
down and then the "cops" put handcuffs on them and zapp them with stun
guns and throw them in the slammer and they shoot and kill the kid's
dogs and stomp their cats to death. www.devilfinder.com police
CORRUPTION
cuhulin


[email protected] September 8th 05 06:05 PM

If you will back track far enough in this news group thingy,you will see
where I said (in effect) that there will be a time when New Orleans will
seriously have to think about rebuilding further North on higher and dry
land.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 8th 05 06:11 PM

Does it make any sense for them people on the Coastal areas of U.S.A.to
have inshorance so they can rebuild their luverly beach front homes and
or beach front vacation homes? People are stupid and I am one of them
stupid peoples too.What if a tornado destroyed my home? I do have
inshorance on my home.Should I rebuild if my home gets knocked down?
hastert would say,NO!
cuhulin


[email protected] September 8th 05 06:13 PM

CAN DO is Right.Us Americans Own The World and outer Space too.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 8th 05 06:15 PM

I forgot what time it is.I need to head on over to the Goodwill
store.CAN DO!
cuhulin


John S. September 8th 05 06:59 PM


wrote:
Does it make any sense for them people on the Coastal areas of U.S.A.to
have inshorance so they can rebuild their luverly beach front homes and
or beach front vacation homes? People are stupid and I am one of them
stupid peoples too.What if a tornado destroyed my home? I do have
inshorance on my home.Should I rebuild if my home gets knocked down?
hastert would say,NO!
cuhulin

Where there is are clearly defined problems that won't go away I agree.
But lets take the risky localities one at a time. In New Orleans
there are several problems that I don't see an easy resolution for:

Built below water level
Surrounded by water
In an area frequented by hurricanes
Continues to sink further below water level
Ocean level rising
Water supply is polluted for many years
A population that can't or won't get itself out of harms way


[email protected] September 8th 05 07:10 PM

I am older than I think I am.I am only sixty three years young.I have
been told before I act more like I am three years old.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 8th 05 07:14 PM

I am going to one of my other webtv username thingys and look at some of
them purty wimmins on there now.They think I am a woman,but I am not.I
find out lots of juicey dirt that way.grin
cuhulin


David September 8th 05 08:09 PM

On 8 Sep 2005 10:59:17 -0700, "John S." wrote:


wrote:
Does it make any sense for them people on the Coastal areas of U.S.A.to
have inshorance so they can rebuild their luverly beach front homes and
or beach front vacation homes? People are stupid and I am one of them
stupid peoples too.What if a tornado destroyed my home? I do have
inshorance on my home.Should I rebuild if my home gets knocked down?
hastert would say,NO!
cuhulin

Where there is are clearly defined problems that won't go away I agree.
But lets take the risky localities one at a time. In New Orleans
there are several problems that I don't see an easy resolution for:

Built below water level
Surrounded by water
In an area frequented by hurricanes
Continues to sink further below water level
Ocean level rising
Water supply is polluted for many years
A population that can't or won't get itself out of harms way

Scrape the contaminated muck off the surface, mix with water and pump
into depleted oil wells.


[email protected] September 8th 05 08:46 PM

People of New Orleans have weathered Hurricanes before for hundreds of
years,water everywhere and high winds.Some of them didn't know Katrina
was going to be that windy.It was not Hurricane Katrina that flooded
about eighty percent of New Orleans.It was the breaches in the Levees
and I believe there is something awfully fishy about that.I do NOT
believe Katrina had anything to do at all with the breaches in the
Levees.Spinning does NOT!!! work with me!
cuhulin



David September 8th 05 09:39 PM

On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:46:59 -0500, wrote:

People of New Orleans have weathered Hurricanes before for hundreds of
years,water everywhere and high winds.Some of them didn't know Katrina
was going to be that windy.It was not Hurricane Katrina that flooded
about eighty percent of New Orleans.It was the breaches in the Levees
and I believe there is something awfully fishy about that.I do NOT
believe Katrina had anything to do at all with the breaches in the
Levees.Spinning does NOT!!! work with me!
cuhulin


The storm breeched the levees. They watched it happen.



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