Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.

In article ,
Beerbarrel wrote:
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.



Maybe he did, I'm still waiting for an authorative time line of what
Bush, the Gov, and the mayor did.

IT DOESN"T MATTER.

As Soon as the Nat Weather Service declared a CAT4 storm on or near NO
pre-loaded FEMA trucks all over the country are supposed to start the
drive to marshalling points at the edge of teh storm area and then
romm forward as soom as the storm passes. 90% of the trusks could be
there in 48 hours.




[1]Here we have the report that the Director of the NWS briefed Brown and
Chertoff about the storm on Sunday;

Hurricane Center Director Tells Paper He Briefed Brown and Chertoff on Danger of Severe Flooding
By E&P Staff
Published: September 04, 2005 6:55 PM ET
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001054595

[2] Here we have a Sunday Aug 28 newspaper story that shows that Bush knew
the storm would cause a disaster.

Mandatory evacuation ordered for New Orleans
The Associated Press , 8/28/2005, 10:48 a.m. CT
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...list=louisiana

Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference,
said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory
evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding.


[3] BBC News has learned that FEMA officials deliberately prevented
major convoys of heavy lorries carrying water, food, medicine, and
other supplies essential for the survival of victims, from reaching
towns and cities suffering in the aftermath Hurricane Katrina. When
the first FEMA lorries began to arrive today, BBC reporters said
"this is the first time we've seen this sign," pointing to the
"FEMA" signs displayed on white A4 cards in the windscreens of the
lorries. "This lorry driver loaded his truck on Monday but his bosses
prevented him from coming here to these people until today." (BBC
News 24, Sat, 3 Sep 05, 12:41 GMT.)


[4] http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/theme_home2.jsp

Emergencies & Disasters
Preparing America

In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other
large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will
assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that
emergency response professionals are prepared for any
situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive
federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and
effective recovery effort. The new Department will also prioritize
the important issue of citizen preparedness. Educating America's
families on how best to prepare their homes for a disaster and tips
for citizens on how to respond in a crisis will be given special
attention at DHS.

[5] FEMA MASH Hospital delayed

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050904/D8CDLUJO0.html


-----------------------------------------
[6] http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlib...RPbaseplan.pdf

The National Response Plan was accepted and implemented by Bush
Administration in December 2004. According to the PREFACE, President
Bush, "directed the development of a new National Response Plan (NRP)
to align Federal coordination structures, capabilities, and resources
into a unified, all discipline, and all-hazards approach to domestic
incident management. . . .The end result is vastly improved
coordination among Federal, State, local, and tribal organizations to
help save lives and protect America's communities by increasing the
speed, effectiveness, and efficiency of incident management."

Efforts by Chertoff and other Administration spinmeisters to pin the
blame on the delayed response on State and local authorities does not
hold water. Although the NRP recognizes that State and local
authorities have a responsibility to ask for help, the NRP correctly
provides a provision to take proactive steps to deal with a threat. On
page 43 of the NRP the section is titled, "Proactive Federal Response
to Catastrophic Events" (which I have copied and pasted below:

The NRP establishes policies, procedures, and mechanisms for proactive
Federal response to catastrophic events. A catastrophic event is any
natural or manmade incident, including terrorism, that results in
extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption
severely affecting the population, infrastructure, environment,
economy, national morale, and/or government functions. A catastrophic
event could result in sustained national impacts over a prolonged
period of time; almost immediately exceeds resources normally
available to State, local, tribal, and private-sector authorities in
the impacted area; and significantly interrupts governmental
operations and emergency services to such an extent that national
security could be threatened. All catastrophic events are Incidents of
National Significance.

Implementation of Proactive Federal Response Protocols

Protocols for proactive Federal response are most likely to be
implemented for catastrophic events involving chemical, biological,
radiological, nuclear, or high-yield explosive weapons of mass
destruction, or large magnitude earthquakes or other natural or
technological disasters in or near heavily populated areas.

Guiding Principles for Proactive Federal Response Guiding principles
for proactive Federal response include the following: Y The primary
mission is to save lives; protect critical infrastructure, property,
and the environment; contain the event; and preserve national
security. Y Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may
be expedited or, under extreme circumstances, suspended in the
immediate aftermath of an event of catastrophic magnitude. Y
Identified Federal response resources will deploy and begin necessary
operations as required to commence life-safety activities. Y
Notification and full coordination with States will occur, but the
coordination process must not delay or impede the rapid deployment and
use of critical resources. States are urged to notify and coordinate
with local governments regarding a proactive Federal response. Y
State and local governments are encouraged to conduct collaborative
planning with the Federal Government as a part of "steady-state"
preparedness for catastrophic incidents.

Implementation Mechanisms for Proactive Federal Response to
Catastrophic Events The NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement
(described in the Catastrophic Incident Annex) addresses resource and
procedural implications of catastrophic events to ensure the rapid and
efficient delivery of resources and assets, including special teams,
equipment, and supplies that provide critical lifesaving support and
incident containment capabilities. These assets may be so specialized
or costly that they are either not available or are in insufficient
quantities in most localities.

The procedures outlined in the NRP Catastrophic Incident Supplement
are based on the following: Y The pre-identification of Federal assets
and capabilities; Y The strategic location of pre-identified assets
for rapid deployment; and Y The use of pre-scripted mission
assignments for Stafford Act declarations, or individual agency
authority and funding, to expedite deployment upon notification by DHS
(in accordance with procedures established in the NRP Catastrophic
Incident Supplement) of a potential catastrophic event.

Agencies responsible for these assets will keep DHS apprised, through
the HSOC, of their ongoing status and location until the JFO is
established. Upon arrival at the scene, Federal assets will coordinate
with the Unified Command, the SFLEO, and the JFO (or its forward
elements) when established. Demobilization processes, including full
coordination with the JFO Coordination Group, are initiated either
when the mission is completed or when it is determined the magnitude
of the event does not warrant continued use of the asset.

While the Bush Administration is to be commended for coming up with a
plan for dealing with terrorism and large scale disasters, it must be
condemned for its abject failure to implement the NRP. And, specific
heads must roll starting with Michael Chertoff and the head of FEMA.

--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

And cheney was hideing down there in that underground Bunker picking at
that pimple on his a..! Or whichever underground Bunker in America.
cuhulin

fema is WORTHLESS.Hey,check out that article at www.drudgereport.com
about the Scumbag red cross.I told y'all before,Dont send anything to
red cross.Instead,send to the Salvation Army.
cuhulin

On 5 Sep 2005 11:10:00 -0400, (Al Dykes) wrote:

In article ,
Beerbarrel wrote:
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.



Maybe he did, I'm still waiting for an authorative time line of what
Bush, the Gov, and the mayor did.

IT DOESN"T MATTER.

As Soon as the Nat Weather Service declared a CAT4 storm on or near NO
pre-loaded FEMA trucks all over the country are supposed to start the
drive to marshalling points at the edge of teh storm area and then
romm forward as soom as the storm passes. 90% of the trusks could be
there in 48 hours.



And they did....my niece works for Fema and was dispatched to
staging points near the storm. That was at least 48 hours prior.

In article ,
Beerbarrel wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 11:10:00 -0400, (Al Dykes) wrote:

In article ,
Beerbarrel wrote:
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.



Maybe he did, I'm still waiting for an authorative time line of what
Bush, the Gov, and the mayor did.

IT DOESN"T MATTER.

As Soon as the Nat Weather Service declared a CAT4 storm on or near NO
pre-loaded FEMA trucks all over the country are supposed to start the
drive to marshalling points at the edge of teh storm area and then
romm forward as soom as the storm passes. 90% of the trusks could be
there in 48 hours.



And they did....my niece works for Fema and was dispatched to
staging points near the storm. That was at least 48 hours prior.


Interesting. Can you name the kind of unit she is in?

--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m

Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.

On 5 Sep 2005 12:17:50 -0400, (Al Dykes) wrote:

In article ,
Beerbarrel wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 11:10:00 -0400, (Al Dykes) wrote:

In article ,
Beerbarrel wrote:
Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.



Maybe he did, I'm still waiting for an authorative time line of what
Bush, the Gov, and the mayor did.

IT DOESN"T MATTER.

As Soon as the Nat Weather Service declared a CAT4 storm on or near NO
pre-loaded FEMA trucks all over the country are supposed to start the
drive to marshalling points at the edge of teh storm area and then
romm forward as soom as the storm passes. 90% of the trusks could be
there in 48 hours.



And they did....my niece works for Fema and was dispatched to
staging points near the storm. That was at least 48 hours prior.


Interesting. Can you name the kind of unit she is in?


She is an Emergency room doc at a hospital in Jacksonville. She was in
Gulfport last I heard.

And why did fema turn the trucks back? American Military has some all
wheel drive trucks that can go underwater useing waterproof ignition
systems and snorkels for the air intake for the engines and pipes for
the engines exhaust.I have driven one before.
cuhulin

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:04:17 -0400, Beerbarrel wrote:

Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.
I blame God.

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:52:08 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:04:17 -0400, Beerbarrel wrote:

Ray Nagin needs to look in the miror to see the source of his
problems. All that he does is talk to reporters, make excuses, and
blame everybody else.
I blame God.



You don't matter!