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Telamon September 10th 05 08:30 PM

Big flare - radio blackout
 
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce September 10th 05 08:45 PM



Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.


Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now have dropped
off a bit.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Telamon September 10th 05 08:51 PM

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.


Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now have dropped
off a bit.


They are starting to come back on 15,315 MHz but I still don't here them
on 17,735 MHz. I thought it would be the other way around. They are
missing on 17,660 MHz also.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce September 10th 05 08:59 PM



Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.


Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now have dropped
off a bit.


They are starting to come back on 15,315 MHz but I still don't here them
on 17,735 MHz. I thought it would be the other way around. They are
missing on 17,660 MHz also.


15315 is S9 at 1959.
17735 is S9+ at 1955.
17660 is S9+20 here at 1956.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




dxAce September 10th 05 09:05 PM



dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now have dropped
off a bit.


They are starting to come back on 15,315 MHz but I still don't here them
on 17,735 MHz. I thought it would be the other way around. They are
missing on 17,660 MHz also.


15315 is S9 at 1959.
17735 is S9+ at 1955.
17660 is S9+20 here at 1956.


Because of the suns position relative to your location you are currently experiencing
more absobtion than I am. See:

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/dregion.html

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Telamon September 10th 05 09:09 PM

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735
and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now have
dropped
off a bit.


They are starting to come back on 15,315 MHz but I still don't here them
on 17,735 MHz. I thought it would be the other way around. They are
missing on 17,660 MHz also.


15315 is S9 at 1959.
17735 is S9+ at 1955.
17660 is S9+20 here at 1956.


Yeah conditions are much better now. They are back on all three
frequencies and like you 17,660 MHz out of Canada is best followed by
the Antilles frequencies.
15315 is S8 at 20:05.
17660 is S9 at 20:05.
17735 is S6 at 20:05.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon September 10th 05 09:15 PM

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735
and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into
the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now have
dropped
off a bit.

They are starting to come back on 15,315 MHz but I still don't here them
on 17,735 MHz. I thought it would be the other way around. They are
missing on 17,660 MHz also.


15315 is S9 at 1959.
17735 is S9+ at 1955.
17660 is S9+20 here at 1956.


Because of the suns position relative to your location you are currently
experiencing
more absobtion than I am. See:

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/dregion.html

Oh yeah! Isn't that page an excellent real time resource! You can watch
solar flare effects on D-region absorption events and how they affect
your reception in real time!

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce September 10th 05 09:28 PM



Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735
and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into
the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now have
dropped
off a bit.

They are starting to come back on 15,315 MHz but I still don't here them
on 17,735 MHz. I thought it would be the other way around. They are
missing on 17,660 MHz also.

15315 is S9 at 1959.
17735 is S9+ at 1955.
17660 is S9+20 here at 1956.


Because of the suns position relative to your location you are currently
experiencing
more absobtion than I am. See:

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/dregion.html

Oh yeah! Isn't that page an excellent real time resource! You can watch
solar flare effects on D-region absorption events and how they affect
your reception in real time!


Yeah, it's pretty cool. I've been checking it from time to time this afternoon.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Telamon September 10th 05 10:03 PM

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on
17,735
and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped
into
the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

Yeah, it was pretty bad around 1630. Things came up again but now
have
dropped
off a bit.

They are starting to come back on 15,315 MHz but I still don't here
them
on 17,735 MHz. I thought it would be the other way around. They are
missing on 17,660 MHz also.

15315 is S9 at 1959.
17735 is S9+ at 1955.
17660 is S9+20 here at 1956.

Because of the suns position relative to your location you are currently
experiencing
more absobtion than I am. See:

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/dregion.html

Oh yeah! Isn't that page an excellent real time resource! You can watch
solar flare effects on D-region absorption events and how they affect
your reception in real time!


Yeah, it's pretty cool. I've been checking it from time to time this
afternoon.

You might want to check out the 13 meter band (21 MHz) right now. More
alive than usual following this flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] September 10th 05 10:11 PM

But this isn't the issue. Did George Bush have prior knowledge of this
solar flare??? And is he to blame for it?


dxAce September 10th 05 10:18 PM



" wrote:

But this isn't the issue. Did George Bush have prior knowledge of this
solar flare??? And is he to blame for it?


According to some George didn't do a thing since it's really Cheney who is in
charge. And with regards to this flare I'm absolutely certain that Cheney is
calling the shots on it from his secret bunker.

I can just see him there, hand on the joystick, evil grin on his face, zapping
the planet with x-ray's.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Brian Hill September 10th 05 11:06 PM


"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.

--
73 and good DX. B.H.
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm




Howard September 10th 05 11:45 PM

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:18:02 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



" wrote:

But this isn't the issue. Did George Bush have prior knowledge of this
solar flare??? And is he to blame for it?


According to some George didn't do a thing since it's really Cheney who is in
charge. And with regards to this flare I'm absolutely certain that Cheney is
calling the shots on it from his secret bunker.

I can just see him there, hand on the joystick, evil grin on his face, zapping
the planet with x-ray's.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


You forgot to include Cheney at the controls of HAARP and using it to
steer hurricanes.........yeah, that's the ticket - he used HAARP to
steer Katrina!

Why has this evaded the mainstream news?


David September 11th 05 01:09 AM

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:06:56 -0500, "Brian Hill"
wrote:



"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html#xray


Telamon September 11th 05 02:28 AM

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.


I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce September 11th 05 02:49 AM



Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.


I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.


Running about S1 here on both 17 MHz freqs.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Brian Hill September 11th 05 02:52 AM


"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten
some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.


I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Being an X class flare would cause blackout. If things get better tomorrow
one can expect some good dx in the following days " hopefuly. Cross your
fingers : )


--
73 and good DX. B.H.
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm



Brian Hill September 11th 05 02:54 AM


"dxAce" wrote in message

Running about S1 here on both 17 MHz freqs.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Same here. Bad copy!


--
73 and good DX. B.H.
Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm



RFI fluroescent September 11th 05 04:50 AM


"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


75 Meters on the East Coast is under aurora watch.
Stations in 2 and 1 Land have moderate "echo chamber"
or "sewer pipe" audio effect on their signals as of 11:00 PM EST.



[email protected] September 11th 05 05:01 AM

A blackout? May I purty please with sugar and honey on it and thank you
mam,, quote that old codger in the Waterworld movie when he was chekin
the oil level in his little boat? Oh,Thank God!
cuhulin


Telamon September 11th 05 06:03 AM

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
..
.
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten
some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.


I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.


Well, I'm back from an evening out and listening Australia and New
Zealand with very poor signals on the 19 meter (15 MHz) band.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon September 11th 05 06:08 AM

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

..
.
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten
some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.


I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.


Well, I'm back from an evening out and listening Australia and New
Zealand with very poor signals on the 19 meter (15 MHz) band.


Wow, yet another flare in progress! What a weird day on the sun this has
been with one flare after another.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon September 11th 05 06:11 AM

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

om
..
.
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735
and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into
the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not
like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten
some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.

I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.


Well, I'm back from an evening out and listening Australia and New
Zealand with very poor signals on the 19 meter (15 MHz) band.


Wow, yet another flare in progress! What a weird day on the sun this has
been with one flare after another.


I have never before seen this chart this busy.
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/alerts/warnings_timeline.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] September 11th 05 06:37 AM

I can talk to a guy in New Zealand (bunch of crazy Kiwi's) on my souped
up CB radio.
cuhulin


Telamon September 11th 05 07:36 AM

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in
message

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om
..
.
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735
and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into
the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not
like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have
gotten
some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.

I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.

Well, I'm back from an evening out and listening Australia and New
Zealand with very poor signals on the 19 meter (15 MHz) band.


Wow, yet another flare in progress! What a weird day on the sun this has
been with one flare after another.


I have never before seen this chart this busy.
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/alerts/warnings_timeline.html


You can read more about this current series of solar radiation storms
he Sun's String of Fury Continues as 7th Major Flare Erupts
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/200509...offurycontinue
sas7thmajorflareerupts

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

clifto September 11th 05 06:27 PM

Telamon wrote:
Telamon wrote:
Well, I'm back from an evening out and listening Australia and New
Zealand with very poor signals on the 19 meter (15 MHz) band.


Wow, yet another flare in progress! What a weird day on the sun this has
been with one flare after another.


I got next to nothing for two hours last night (1-3 AM CDT) from KMOX
here in the Chicago area, between some QRN I can't explain or find the
source of and weak signals. Shoulda thought to try WWL but didn't;
they're usually strong here.

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

dxAce September 11th 05 06:55 PM



clifto wrote:

Telamon wrote:
Telamon wrote:
Well, I'm back from an evening out and listening Australia and New
Zealand with very poor signals on the 19 meter (15 MHz) band.


Wow, yet another flare in progress! What a weird day on the sun this has
been with one flare after another.


I got next to nothing for two hours last night (1-3 AM CDT) from KMOX
here in the Chicago area, between some QRN I can't explain or find the
source of and weak signals. Shoulda thought to try WWL but didn't;
they're usually strong here.


WWL put in a very nice signal here last night. I fell asleep listening to it on
the bedside radio and woke up to it still coming in well at about 6:30 AM.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 11th 05 07:05 PM

I wonder if the weird conditions explain the odd audio I detect on the
part of CAMSLANT Chesapeake. The voices seem oddly muffled.

Steve


Telamon September 11th 05 07:16 PM

In article .com,
wrote:

I wonder if the weird conditions explain the odd audio I detect on the
part of CAMSLANT Chesapeake. The voices seem oddly muffled.


Yes. There is a concurrent geomagnetic storm along the solar radiation
events.

The X ray trend today is down from yesterday but still high.
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_1m.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] September 11th 05 07:21 PM

What radio blackouts? My radios are doing fine.The Extinction Of The
American Middle Class. www.rense.com It isn't any new news to
me.It is part of fed govt selling America down the River.bush and
cafta,bush giving the finger to America,,,, bush,,, If I was a
Dictator,my job would be easier,bush curses out all Americans,,,. Middle
Class,, either gaining or loseing.You tell me.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 11th 05 07:24 PM

KMOX is in Saint Louis,Missouri.No wonder you can't get anything! You
don't know how to Operate a Radio.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 11th 05 07:31 PM

john mccain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.That ******* could not
legally run for prez of U.S.A.years ago and he can never legally run for
prez of U.S.A.EVER! Read the Constitution of the United States of
America.john mccain could not fly U.S.Navy Aircraft either,he crashed at
least two of them unecessarily.Most U.S.Navy guys know john mccain
didn't know how to fly U.S.Navy Aircraft.Even I (U.S.Army) knows that!
cuhulin


Mark Zenier September 11th 05 08:15 PM

In article ,
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"Brian Hill" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I was listening to Radio Netherlands when they dropped out on 17,735 and
15,315 with the usual very strong signal and they just dropped into the
noise. Transmitter trouble? Nope, big solar flare.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


I was getting some very strong crackling noises when it started. Not like
lightning but weird. I just moved into this new home and my have gotten some
RFI from around here but it ran right with the peak of the storm.


I never heard Australia on 21,740 today and currently I don't hear them
on 17,795 and just barely getting them on 17,715 MHz.


17795 was totally stomped on at 23:00 here in Seattle.
I was surprised that Radio Netherlands was coming in good
on 9845 at 00:45 UTC. (BTW, only two more Insight commentaries
by Robert Green(e) before he retires...)

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

John Barnard September 11th 05 11:17 PM



wrote:

KMOX is in Saint Louis,Missouri.No wonder you can't get anything! You
don't know how to Operate a Radio.
cuhulin


Thank you for being the poster child for the American education system.
He was writing about his location and not KMOX.

JB


John Barnard September 11th 05 11:20 PM



wrote:

I wonder if the weird conditions explain the odd audio I detect on the
part of CAMSLANT Chesapeake. The voices seem oddly muffled.

Steve


Reception is absolutely abyssmal here in Edmonton. I can barely hear WWV
on 10 MHz and that's all I can hear. All my usual hallmarks for reception
are in the noise. That'll teach me to live at a relatively northerly
latitude.

JB



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