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Kristoff Bonne wrote:

Gegroet,


Not much time now. Just a quick reply:


Telamon schreef:
Here are some press releases concerning DRM/DAB of the IFA
(Internationale Funk Aufstellung) Berlin and IBC Amsterdam (both where
held earlier this month):
One in english:
http://www.infosat.lu/Meldungen/?srID=53&msgID=17027
Another one:
http://www.4rfv.co.uk/industrynews.asp?ID=43833
One in dutch buth with some pictures:
http://home.planet.nl/~rickvdw/digitaal/DRM-IBC2005/

The links I provided point to the only SW DRM concept radio that I know
of other than rack mount units.

Well, there are a lot more of them. :-)
(see the links I provided).

No there isn't with the links you provided.

Take a look at the pictures in the last link.

Anycase, here's another link from the BBC news website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4237010.stm


We will see by this year's end when these things are actually in the
shops what the actual specifications of these radios will be.
My guess is that the number of shortwave-bands on these radios will be
limited.



The statements that I have seen before about DRM being an open standard
are as far as I see false because the software is not in the public
domain.

Like this one?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/drm/

No I don't like it. This is another computer - radio. ...

Of course it is. This is a reply to your comment that the source-code
for the DRM SDRs is not available. It is and it is GPLed.

The best prove of it is HAMDRM, the version of DRM redesigned to operate
in 3 Khz. Their code is based on the code of DREAM that you can find in
the link I provided.



The other links are not SW radios or they need computers to operate or
they are rack mount units that are and will continue to be very
expensive. The rack mounts are not consumer units.

OK. I think there was some "communication-error" between us. A "rack
mountable" (to me) is a device you place inside a rack, which is usually
professional equipement to be placed inside a computer or telecom-room.

(In this case, I though you talked about the "professional"
DRM-receivers and DRM-monitors made by companies who also build
transmittors).


A "PC-decoder" (i.e. something used by hobbyists and HAMs) I would call
a "SDRs" (Software Defined Radio).


The Mayah was a halfway solution as it used a generic DSP-processor to
do DRM-decoding (which explains why it use that much power). These next
generation DAB/DRM radios are based on ASIC-designs.



For this among other reasons the name "Deception Radio Mondiale" sticks.
Looks to me like the Deception is more in your mind then in reality. :-)

I don't find this humorous.
I keep to the facts and you just play around.

No I don't.
I like to keep a discussion as "clean" as possible too, but I think
there simply was a miscommunication between us.


But, if you use a name like 'Deception', you'll need to make sure that
you can "prove" your statement. Fact is
- that "standalone" DRM-radios do exist.
- that the source-code of DRM is publically available.

I'm not playing any more of your yes it is and no it isn't crap. The
link above points to the same radio the other links you provided already
show that this is NOT A SW RADIO. It's AMBCB and FM like the rest. Now
I've lost count of how many times I have posted - the one I showed you
is the ONLY DEMONSTRATION SW DRM RADIO IN ANY OF THE LINKS.

The few other exceptions are very expensive professional rack mount OR
computer based processing. You have not made one point in regurgitating
the DRM consortiums press releases. I've already read them and I don't
need you to point me to them. It would be OK if the links proved your
assertions but they don't.

The computer software down load gives you TEMPORARY and not PERMANENT
use. The rights are NOT given away with this software. This is just one
of the deceptions about DRM is that the coding is free and anybody can
use it as see fit. If you can't see that then to bad for you.

You are full of crap and I'm not playing your Trolling game.

Plonk

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Telamon
Ventura, California