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SR September 29th 05 06:50 AM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!

Jim Hackett September 29th 05 01:39 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
The AF knob is the volume....



"SR" wrote in message
...
I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime

soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!




Jim Hackett September 29th 05 01:40 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Mine is an "A" model. It has a clock. Does yours?



"SR" wrote in message
...
I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime

soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!




SR September 29th 05 02:48 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Hey Jim, yes it has a nice looking 24 hour clock on the upper left
conner. This is just about the largest radio I had ever seen. Other
then maybe military radios.

Do you have a manual for your radio?

Too bad it's not an all band radio. But their is a lot of space in the
inside. I hope in time I could exspand it.

Is the RF button the on/off button for the whole radio?

73 SR!

Jim Hackett wrote:
Mine is an "A" model. It has a clock. Does yours?



"SR" wrote in message
...

I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime


soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!





SR September 29th 05 02:49 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Also what is the SEND RECEIVE CAL button for?

SR

Jim Hackett wrote:

Mine is an "A" model. It has a clock. Does yours?



"SR" wrote in message
...

I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime


soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?



Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!





[email protected] September 29th 05 02:56 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
www.devilfinder.com Directions for using Hammarlund HQ-170 Radios

I don't own a Hammarlund radio.By the way,I do own some old long tall CB
radio antennas of various lengths.Would one of those antennas be usefull
for a shortwave radio antenna,has anyone used one for that purpose
before?
cuhulin


SR September 29th 05 03:29 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Yes, one of the antennas I use is for cb radio. It is a fiber glass
whip. I use it with the MFJ-956 matcher. Sometimes it helps bring in
signals on the upper bands. Depending on conditions.

I could use an all metal antenna. The types that cab divers use. Not
the magnet mount type. The long whip type.

SR.

wrote:

www.devilfinder.com Directions for using Hammarlund HQ-170 Radios

I don't own a Hammarlund radio.By the way,I do own some old long tall CB
radio antennas of various lengths.Would one of those antennas be usefull
for a shortwave radio antenna,has anyone used one for that purpose
before?
cuhulin


dxAce September 29th 05 04:31 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 


Jim Hackett wrote:

Mine is an "A" model. It has a clock. Does yours?


The "A" designation has nothing to do with the clock. With the "A" model of the
HQ-170 and the HQ-180 the hfo/mix1 were on all the time and whatever other
improvements were made.

Typically the "C" denoted a clock, which may have been optional on earlier
models.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



SR September 29th 05 04:48 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Hi dxAce, how many different models did the Hammarlund came in? And
which was the lastest or best model?

SR

dxAce wrote:


Jim Hackett wrote:


Mine is an "A" model. It has a clock. Does yours?



The "A" designation has nothing to do with the clock. With the "A" model of the
HQ-170 and the HQ-180 the hfo/mix1 were on all the time and whatever other
improvements were made.

Typically the "C" denoted a clock, which may have been optional on earlier
models.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce September 29th 05 05:13 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 


SR wrote:

Hi dxAce, how many different models did the Hammarlund came in? And
which was the lastest or best model?


Good question. Hammarlund made many different models over the years. Which one is the
best? That's something I guess is left up to the individual user.

The model you have, the HQ-170 is an amateur band receiver, and it's counterpart, the
HQ-180 is a general coverage shortwave receiver.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



SR September 29th 05 05:16 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I'm trying to find a website with the history of this radio. I would
like to learn about all of the different models.

If you know of a website please let me know.

Thank you, SR

SR wrote:

I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime
soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!


dxAce September 29th 05 05:23 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 


SR wrote:

I'm trying to find a website with the history of this radio. I would
like to learn about all of the different models.

If you know of a website please let me know.


I guess you might start he

http://www.hammarlund.info/

And Google from there.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] September 29th 05 05:34 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
www.devilfinder.com History of Hammarlund Radios

I wouldn't mind owning at least one or more Hammarlund Radios myself.I
am headin over to the Goodwill store in about half an hour,maybe I will
find me a Hammarlund Radio over there,or a Drake or Ten-Tec or Pal or my
favorite,Watkins Johnson Radio.
cuhulin


[email protected] September 29th 05 05:46 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I read up on the History of Hammarlund Radios at the
www.devilfinder.com search I did.I say they are Great Radios,now I
need to find me a good working Hammarlund Radio at a price po old me can
afford to buy.Wish me Luck at the Goodwill store y'all.
cuhulin


bpnjensen September 29th 05 06:02 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
The "A" designation has nothing to do with the clock. With the "A" model of the
HQ-170 and the HQ-180 the hfo/mix1 were on all the time and whatever
other
improvements were made.

Typically the "C" denoted a clock, which may have been optional on
earlier
models.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

An "X" in the designation meant a crystal calibrator, izzat right? I
had an HQ-100X awhile ago, and that device was pretty useful.

Bruce Jensen


John Sheatsley September 29th 05 06:13 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 

"SR" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to find a website with the history of this radio. I would like
to learn about all of the different models.

If you know of a website please let me know.

Thank you, SR


As a start see:

www.hammarlund.info

Regards,
John





[email protected] September 29th 05 06:22 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
SR wrote:
I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?


If you don't want to design and build your own, you can look in:

www.aade.com/dfd1HAM.htm


dxAce September 29th 05 06:27 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 


bpnjensen wrote:

The "A" designation has nothing to do with the clock. With the "A" model of the

HQ-170 and the HQ-180 the hfo/mix1 were on all the time and whatever
other
improvements were made.

Typically the "C" denoted a clock, which may have been optional on
earlier
models.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

An "X" in the designation meant a crystal calibrator, izzat right? I
had an HQ-100X awhile ago, and that device was pretty useful.


I don't see anything right off hand about a HQ-100X but there was a HQ-120X and that
denoted a crystal filter.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Carter-K8VT September 29th 05 07:04 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
SR wrote:

Do you have a manual for your radio?


You can get a manual on-line for free...

Go to yahoo.com...then do a search for "BAMA"...go to that site...then
go to the "edibis" (sp?) mirror site --it is faster and allows more
users---then go to "Hammarlund"...then choose "HQ-170". At least for the
"C" model, this will give you the complete operators manual as an 82
page .pdf


The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using
a small speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over
power the speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear.
The sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around
with the buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a
signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button
and RF botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I
bring it up the signal get stronger.


The "AF" is the volume control. Use it. Put the RF control all the way
on. Turn off the noise limiter. Make sure that the "AVC" switch is *not*
in the "off" position (any other position of this switch will be OK to
get you started). Assuming no other problems with the radio (sort of a
big "assume" for a radio of this vintage that has not been restored),
this should go a long way to clearing up your distortion.

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?


left screw is common/ground; Center screw is for 3-8 ohm speaker; right
screw is for 500 ohm "line out".

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can
turn with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.


One is for the S-meter "zero-set" Forgot what the other is for. Don't
mess with them until you get the manual.

Good luck...it's not a bad receiver.

bpnjensen September 29th 05 07:08 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I don't see anything right off hand about a HQ-100X but there was a HQ-120X and that
denoted a crystal filter.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Thinking back, that calibrator might have been an installation by
another owner. In any case, it worked darn well and helped alot,
especially before full warm-up.

Bruce Jensen


dxAce September 29th 05 07:11 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 


bpnjensen wrote:

I don't see anything right off hand about a HQ-100X but there was a HQ-120X and that

denoted a crystal filter.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Thinking back, that calibrator might have been an installation by
another owner. In any case, it worked darn well and helped alot,
especially before full warm-up.


The '100 I had also had an add-on calibrator.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Jim Hackett September 29th 05 08:14 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
No manual. Don't recal about the RF switch being for the power or not.
Radio is tucked away in a closet.
"SR" wrote in message
...
Hey Jim, yes it has a nice looking 24 hour clock on the upper left
conner. This is just about the largest radio I had ever seen. Other
then maybe military radios.

Do you have a manual for your radio?

Too bad it's not an all band radio. But their is a lot of space in the
inside. I hope in time I could exspand it.

Is the RF button the on/off button for the whole radio?

73 SR!

Jim Hackett wrote:
Mine is an "A" model. It has a clock. Does yours?



"SR" wrote in message
...

I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime


soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!







Jim Hackett September 29th 05 08:20 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Just out of curiousity, what did you pay for yours? I don't recal EXACTLY
but I paid either $20 or $40 for mine at a flea mkt. It was missing the
case screws so it wnted to just slide out of the cabinet. I didn't expect
it to work and was very happy to see it did. Needs alignment badly but is
functional. Oh yea, it has a crack in the clock crystal also...
"SR" wrote in message
...
Hey Jim, yes it has a nice looking 24 hour clock on the upper left
conner. This is just about the largest radio I had ever seen. Other
then maybe military radios.

Do you have a manual for your radio?

Too bad it's not an all band radio. But their is a lot of space in the
inside. I hope in time I could exspand it.

Is the RF button the on/off button for the whole radio?

73 SR!

Jim Hackett wrote:
Mine is an "A" model. It has a clock. Does yours?



"SR" wrote in message
...

I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime


soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!







[email protected] September 29th 05 08:33 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I didn't see any radios at all this afternoon at the Goodwill store.I
bought two old Tootisietoys toy cars (twenty five cents each) and an old
metal Hi Bid folding chair (two dollars for the chair) and a doll.
(three dollars for the doll) I will see if one of my sisters want's the
doll,if not,I reckon I am stuck with the doll.Now y'all can say the old
cuhulin likes to play with dolls,but I don't play with dolls.
cuhulin


SR September 29th 05 08:57 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Hi dxAce: I have the Icom R75, it covers a lot of bands. The
Hammarlund 170 does not have many of the bands I like to listen to, such
as 41m & 49m. And it does not have the part in the rear for the PL259.

I will look around for a Hammarlund 180. If it carries 10m-160m. Also
I notice that the Hammarlund 180 has an openning hatch on the top. This
is cool.

I wonder if these radio were used in the military?

73 SR!

dxAce wrote:


SR wrote:


Hi dxAce, how many different models did the Hammarlund came in? And
which was the lastest or best model?



Good question. Hammarlund made many different models over the years. Which one is the
best? That's something I guess is left up to the individual user.

The model you have, the HQ-170 is an amateur band receiver, and it's counterpart, the
HQ-180 is a general coverage shortwave receiver.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



D Peter Maus September 29th 05 10:05 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
SR wrote:
Hi dxAce: I have the Icom R75, it covers a lot of bands. The
Hammarlund 170 does not have many of the bands I like to listen to, such
as 41m & 49m. And it does not have the part in the rear for the PL259.

I will look around for a Hammarlund 180. If it carries 10m-160m. Also
I notice that the Hammarlund 180 has an openning hatch on the top. This
is cool.

I wonder if these radio were used in the military?

73 SR!


Hammarlund, like Hallicrafters, Stromberg-Carlson, Motorola and
countless others made radios for the military. And, often, the military
versions were similar to the civilian versions.

I have a Hammarlund BC-794 SuperPro. It's Signal Corps issue. A
military version of SP-200.

Been using it since my grandfather dropped it on me in the early
60's. Been recapped twice, retubed often and at 100 lbs (with power
supply) I've used it to keep the boat from blowing away in a tornado.

It's still one of the finest radios in my stable, and like all real
radios, keeps me warm on winter nights.


Oscar Hammarlund's history, if you're into history at all, is both
wide and deep, and like Bill Halligan, his roots extended deep into the
fabric of Chicago.

Hammarlund's radios were never cheap. Halligan's top of the lines
were 'must buy' by comparison. The last SP-600 incarnations kissed the
neck of $1000. When $1000 could get you into a new VW. The Hammarlund
weighed a little less than the car. But Hammarlund's radios were
exceptionally well built, easily serviced (though not simple radios) and
stellar performers.

Like most radios of their era, they'll work on a crooked wire and a
good intention. But require a well designed and executed antenna to play
at the limits of credibility.

They were also known for their excellent audio character, with many
of the SuperPro line equipped to double as phonograph amplifiers during
RF downtime.

Nice find, your HQ-170.



dxAce wrote:


SR wrote:


Hi dxAce, how many different models did the Hammarlund came in? And
which was the lastest or best model?




Good question. Hammarlund made many different models over the years.
Which one is the
best? That's something I guess is left up to the individual user.

The model you have, the HQ-170 is an amateur band receiver, and it's
counterpart, the
HQ-180 is a general coverage shortwave receiver.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



matt weber September 30th 05 01:14 AM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:50:01 -0400, SR wrote:

I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A.

A means it has a solid state rectifier instead of the 5u4 high vacuum
rectifier used in the original HQ-170
I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

Bandwidth is probably set too narrow for AM. HQ170 was designed as an
SSB receiver, so default bandwidth is probably about 2.3Khz, which
will make AM sound like CR*P. Also be careful what you connect to. The
are 3 screws in the back, ground, 3.2 and 500 ohms. The speaker goes
between ground and 3.2 ohm screw.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

Has two controls. AF Gain and RF gain. AF gain is the volume control.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

Yes. The front end on the 170 is designed for roughly 100 ohms,
balance or unbalanced. The control is to try to match whatever you
have to the 100 ohms the 170 is looking for

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

Notch filter. A hole in the passband, you get to decide where it is,
how wide it is, and how deep it is.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

the Two A's are for a balanced antenna, such as a folded dipole (300
ohm). SO-239 is for a 50/70 ohm unbalanced antenna like a 1/4 wave
vertical or standard dipole

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

Radiatior pipes often make poor Radio Frequency grounds. Metalic cold
water pipe near inlet, or a 'ground' field (copper radials burried in
the back yard).

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

1 speaker 3.2 ohm usually,. There is a 500 ohm line output used for
things like Phone patches and VOX.

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

There should already be an SO239 on the back If not, someone removed
it.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

YOu can, but it is NOT simple especially. First Local oscaillator is
tuned (unusual these days in a triple conversion receiver), and down
converted to 3035Khz. So local oscillator +/- 3035 Khz is the tuned
frequency.

Conversion from 3035 to 455 is via a crystal oscillator, 455 to 60Hz
is a simple L/C circuit. Not real hard to build a very stable 395Khz
L/C oscillator, especially if you are working from a regulated supply
(one of the funny tubes in the HQ170 will glow white/blue when on.
That is a mercury vapor voltage regulator tube...)

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

all manner of coils and transformers that can be adjusted. The basic
ones are usually S-meter Zero.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!


Reprints of the instruction book can be purchased from
http://www.radioreprints.com/descriptions/hq170.htm



[email protected] September 30th 05 01:48 AM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I remember seeing two different models of small portable wireless
frequency counters in some Radio Shack catalogs a few years ago.I don't
know if Radio Shack stores still sell them though,perhaps some other
stores sell similar products.
cuhulin


Carter-K8VT September 30th 05 12:12 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Jim Hackett wrote:

Oh yea, it has a crack in the
clock crystal also...


*very* typical problem. Some guy was making repros at one time, but not
sure if he is still in business.

SR September 30th 05 03:38 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Hello guys: Because the radio get hot. I was wondering after turning
it on, how long does the radio needs to take to warm up before I could
use it? And how many hours per night can I use it without blowing a tube
or fuse? I am trying to understand my limmits without abusing it.

Also, I have limmited space, do not want to stack other plasic case
radios on top of a tube radio because it gets hot. However, could I
stack a tube radio on top of another tube radio? The idea is that since
both radios are mostly made out of metal and they get hot anyway, I
would think the radio on top should be able to take the heat from the
bottom radio.

Of course if I were to stack tube radios like that I would have a little
space in between them so heat could escape. I wonder if wooden shelves
can absorb heat?

Also, could I have a tube radio near my computer monitor or CPU? I
don't have it near because I am trying to advoid interference by near by
electronics.

I would have to find a way to add a fan to the Hammarlund 170.

73, SR!

SR wrote:
I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime
soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!


[email protected] September 30th 05 04:02 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
If the radio is similar to a Military Radio or most other ordinary tube
type radios,you don't need to wait untill it warms up to use it.If you
are going to stack tube type radios on top of tube type radios,I think
it is a good idea to use some one inch by two inch strips of wood
between the radios for air ventilation or you could buy or build some
sort of "book cases" for the radios.If you are worried about too much
heat,set an electric fan to blow on them.Tube type radios are not
similar to computers,computers can't handle as much heat as tube type
radios can.
cuhulin


Frank Dresser September 30th 05 04:51 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 

"SR" wrote in message
...
Hello guys: Because the radio get hot. I was wondering after turning
it on, how long does the radio needs to take to warm up before I could
use it? And how many hours per night can I use it without blowing a tube
or fuse? I am trying to understand my limmits without abusing it.


I used to keep my SX-62 turned on for nearly all the time I was at home. I
like radio, and the 62 is a general coverage receiver with low VHF and FM.
There's always something to hear on it. It's been on for over a couple of
days several times. If the radio is in good condition, there is no limit.
The power tubes, such as the rectifier and audio output tube, will last
thousands of hours. The small signal tubes will last tens of thousands of
hours.


Also, I have limmited space, do not want to stack other plasic case
radios on top of a tube radio because it gets hot. However, could I
stack a tube radio on top of another tube radio? The idea is that since
both radios are mostly made out of metal and they get hot anyway, I
would think the radio on top should be able to take the heat from the
bottom radio.


That should be fine. I've always have some radios stacked and it's never
been a problem. Actually, the heat probably wouldn't bother most plastic
radios, either. I'll bet they'd get hotter in the direct sun.



Of course if I were to stack tube radios like that I would have a little
space in between them so heat could escape. I wonder if wooden shelves
can absorb heat?


Should be fine. Many tube radios also had wood cabinets.



Also, could I have a tube radio near my computer monitor or CPU? I
don't have it near because I am trying to advoid interference by near by
electronics.


Put the radio where it's convienient. If other electronics interfere with
the radio, turn them off. The radio won't interfere with the other
electronics.

I would have to find a way to add a fan to the Hammarlund 170.


It's lasted a long time without a fan, and it should last yet longer without
one. Most of my radios are from forty to sixty years old, and none of them
have fans. I consider all of them relible enough to leave powered up
indefinately. And, if one of their transformers or something should go up
in smoke, I really doubt a fan would have helped.


73, SR!


Frank Dresser



D Peter Maus September 30th 05 06:31 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
SR wrote:
Hello guys: Because the radio get hot. I was wondering after turning
it on, how long does the radio needs to take to warm up before I could
use it? And how many hours per night can I use it without blowing a tube
or fuse? I am trying to understand my limmits without abusing it.



Barring a component failure, you can use it as soon as you turn it
on. It comes up pretty quickly.

It will become stable within about a half hour.



Also, I have limmited space, do not want to stack other plasic case
radios on top of a tube radio because it gets hot. However, could I
stack a tube radio on top of another tube radio? The idea is that since
both radios are mostly made out of metal and they get hot anyway, I
would think the radio on top should be able to take the heat from the
bottom radio.



Probably not a problem. What you'll be doing, is, in effect, creating
a thermal buffer for either radio, increasing stability. The Hammar will
vent away much of it's heat through the louvres in the cabinet. But the
chassis will remain warm. That's actually a benefit to stability.

As long as nothing gets too hot to touch, don't worry about it.



Of course if I were to stack tube radios like that I would have a little
space in between them so heat could escape. I wonder if wooden shelves
can absorb heat?


They will. And it's not a problem. The shelves have the chassis
between the heat source and the wooden surface. That's a heat shield.
Wooden cased tube radios have a piece of silvered cardboard, or foil
between the wood and the warmest tubes, as a heat shield. Same principle.


Weight on the shelves will be a bigger issue than heat.



Also, could I have a tube radio near my computer monitor or CPU? I
don't have it near because I am trying to advoid interference by near by
electronics.

I would have to find a way to add a fan to the Hammarlund 170.



Don't bother. Unless the transformer gets too hot to touch, you're
fine. Heat in a tube radio is normal, and retained heat, within reason,
enhances stability.

In a tube radio, short of some resistors, heat dissipation is
accomplished by convection and component size, ie, a large surface to
volume ration. Solid state devices don't have that benefit, and will fry
as a junction, often smaller than a pencil point, generates more heat
that it's small surface can radiate. Tubes are big, generate less heat
per unit area, and have a larger surface to volume ratio. They'll get
hot, but they'll stabilize.

As long as your transformer isn't too hot to touch because of a
perforated cap, or a resistor out of tolerance, enjoy the warmth.




73, SR!

SR wrote:

I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime
soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a
small speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power
the speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and
RF botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it
up the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector
then too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my
homebrew 90 feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my
radiator pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back
of the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is
another hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I
do not see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!


[email protected] September 30th 05 09:22 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I don't remember which company it was and I think it was back in the
1960's.A company was experimenting with some vacuum tubes for radios and
they claimed the tubes generated much less heat than the other kinds of
regular vacuum tubes for radios.The tubes emitted a blue glow instead of
the familiar red glow of regular vacuum tubes and the company also
claimed their tubes lasted much longer because of much less heat too.I
read about it in a Popular Science magazine back in the 1960's,,, or it
might have been in the late 1950's when I read that article.
cuhulin


SR October 3rd 05 07:05 AM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
I notice something interesting about this radio. Their are terminal for
6 meters. Throughout the last 10 years when I had scanned the 6 meters
on my scanner, I do not think I had never picked up any hams. (BTW I am
in the New York City area) Yes it is a very short band and it might be
more related to 2 meters, I would think.

So why would Hammarlund go through the effort to add terminals on the
rear of this radio. My only guess is that at the time hams were using
the 6 meters a lot more.

Also, this radio does not seem to pick up much on the 21-21.6 and 28-30
bands.

I have a reprint copy of the manual. I was reading the part of the SEND
RECEIVE CAL button. And somehow this has something to do with something
called BREAK-IN RELAY. (There is a relay female chassis connector at
the rear.)

Because of this can this radio make some kind of transmission?

Could someone please explain this to me in layman terms.

BTW I love the radio!

Thank you, SR!



SR wrote:
I got a Hammarlund HQ-170. Not the Hammarlund HQ-170A. I am not sure
what the (A) stands for or what is the differences in these models.

The radio is big and it works. I do not have any instructions for it
yet. But I was able to buy a manual, which should come to me sometime
soon.

The radio is very sensitive. And it has no speaker. I am using a small
speaker and sometimes headphones. Sometimes it can over power the
speaker and headphones

When I pick up a signal, say a voice, it does not sound as clear. The
sound need to be better clarified. Although I play around with the
buttons, and try to figure out how to better tune in a signal.

The radio has no volume button, so I use the NOISE LIMITER button and RF
botton to adjust the volume acordingly.

There is a AF button but I am not sure what it does. When I bring it up
the signal get stronger.

There is a ANTENNA button, I guess that works like a antenna turner.
Which I also use the MFJ 956. I wonder if I could use them both?

I am not sure what the SLOT/FREG and the SLOT DEPTH buttons are for.

The radio has a few terminal screws in the rear. (A, A, G, 6m and SPKR)
I have two alagator clips on A and A and to a PL 259 coax connector then
too my MFJ 956 tuner then to my antenna switcher then to my homebrew 90
feet coil dipole or to my 8 foot fiberglass whip.

I have the G (I guess this is for gound), on a clamp and to my radiator
pipe.

6m must be for the 50 MHZ! VHF

SPKR is this for 2 speakers or 1?

I plan to find a way to add a rear female coax connector to the back of
the radio so I could better connect it to a PL259 coax.

I wonder if their is a way to add a frequency counter to this radio?

Their is one button missing. Their is a small piece of metal sticking
out under the clock. Is their a way I could set the clock?

Behind the clock their is a rod in the inside and it reaches the back
with a hole. Maybe that is the way to set the clock. Their is another
hole like that on the other side on the SLOT FREQ side. But I do not
see a rod behind it. It their suppose to be one?

Also I notice a few holes in the back and inside a plasic you can turn
with a scew driver. Not sure what that is for.

I hope I could find extra tubes and fused should I ever need them.

And I wonder how others who have this radio feel about it?

73, SR!


Carter-K8VT October 3rd 05 12:12 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
SR wrote:

Because of this can this radio make some kind of transmission?

Could someone please explain this to me in layman terms.


No, it can not transmit. The "TR-REC-CAL" just provides a switch closure
that you can use to put a separate transmitter in the transmit mode.
Your "break-in" plug is a hook up for a relay that usually ties in with
your antenna change over relay, a device that switches your one antenna
between the separate transmitter and the receiver. It is an "interlock"
scheme, if you will, that "mutes" or locks out the receiver when you
turn on your transmitter (to keep from blowing out the front end of your
receiver while transmitting).

A careful look at the hook up diagram in your manual should clarify this
a bit more.

Michael Black October 3rd 05 04:30 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 

SR ) writes:
I notice something interesting about this radio. Their are terminal for
6 meters. Throughout the last 10 years when I had scanned the 6 meters
on my scanner, I do not think I had never picked up any hams. (BTW I am
in the New York City area) Yes it is a very short band and it might be
more related to 2 meters, I would think.

So why would Hammarlund go through the effort to add terminals on the
rear of this radio. My only guess is that at the time hams were using
the 6 meters a lot more.

Also, this radio does not seem to pick up much on the 21-21.6 and 28-30
bands.

Different bands have different propagation. The lower bands are lousy in
the day time, and great at night. The higher bands reverse the process.
But also, as the frequency increases the more sporadic the good propagation.
So ten meters, 28-29.7MHz, will be fairly dead much of the time, until
good propagation comes along. The same with 15Meters, 21MHz, though to a
lesser extent, and the moreso on six meters. When conditions are good, then
they can be really good.

If a band is not being used much locally, then you won't hear anything
until conditions are good. And you have to listen quite a bit to hit
the good times. It's like good DX on the FM broadcast band (though since
it's even higher in frequency than 50MHz, it's even less common); when it
happens you can hear stations so far away, but it comes suddenly and
disappears as fast. If you weren't listening to the radio at that time,
and listening to a non-local station, then you might never know that
anything had happened.

Even up to forty years ago, six meters was often the band of choice
for those who used VHF. There was the US Technician license that only
allowed for operation at 50MHz and up (and here in Canada, you could only
use voice with the basic license at 50MHz and up). Since 50MHz was the
lowest band useable by the Technician class licenses, they tended to use it.
Because as uncommon as good propagation was, it was more common than at
2meters. And when conditions were good, you could work fairly good
distances, and with relatively little equipment. Plus, there was a lot of
simple and low power commercial gear manufactured for the band, so the band
did tend to be used for local use. Ironically, when a band is in regular
use it means people are more likely to notice the good propagation, because
they are there already.

So it made a lot of sense to add the 6meter band to a ham-band only receiver.
If nothing else, it was a feature one could boast about over the other
receivers didn't cover the band. People could buy the receiver, and not
need a converter to receive six meters. They could then build or buy a small
and cheap transmitter, and be on the air.

Another good reason for adding is is that the HF ham bands are relatively
small, with the largest of the bunch being the not quite 2MHz of the 10meter
band. All the VHF and UHF bands are larger. The common way to receive
higher bands was to build or buy a converter that translated those
higher bands down to a frequency range your receiver could tune. But with
an HF-only ham band receiver, the biggest slice was about 2MHz. Adding
six meters provided a 4MHz band, which was better, and that provided a band
that did have a wider range. So adding the band gave some VHF coverage,
and set the stage for the reception of higher bands.

I have a reprint copy of the manual. I was reading the part of the SEND
RECEIVE CAL button. And somehow this has something to do with something
called BREAK-IN RELAY. (There is a relay female chassis connector at
the rear.)

Because of this can this radio make some kind of transmission?

No.
Since it's a ham band only receiver, pretty much everyone using it
would be pairing it with a transmitter. The switch was there to
manipulate the receiver so it wouldn't be bothered by the nearby
transmitter, and included a means of controlling the transmitter, in
one simple switch. If the receiver didn't include it, you'd need
a separate switch to take care of switching between receive and
transmit.

Michael


Caveat Lector October 3rd 05 04:52 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
Six meters will provide long range DX during the height of the solar cycle -
F layer skip
And not dependent on the solar cycle is Sporadic E -- with long range DX --
typically occurs during the summer months and a smaller peak in late winter

There are several other propagation modes as well -- see URL:

http://www.anarc.org/wtfda/propagation.htm

The east coast routinely works Europe on six meters if the band is open. The
west coast occaisionally works Europe and routinely works the the Pacific
with band openings

With sporadic E it is entirely possible to work all USA states including HI
and AL

But the band can be dead for long periods of time. DX is mostly SSB and some
CW


However many locations have line of sight operation either simplex or
repeaters
Check your repeater guide. Repeaters are FM of course

The packet clusters will alert you as to 6M activity

Also see URL:
http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=6072
--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !


SR ) writes:
I notice something interesting about this radio. Their are terminal for
6 meters. Throughout the last 10 years when I had scanned the 6 meters
on my scanner, I do not think I had never picked up any hams. (BTW I am
in the New York City area) Yes it is a very short band and it might be
more related to 2 meters, I would think.




Mark Zenier October 3rd 05 08:22 PM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
In article ,
Michael Black wrote:

SR ) writes:
I notice something interesting about this radio. Their are terminal for
6 meters. Throughout the last 10 years when I had scanned the 6 meters
on my scanner, I do not think I had never picked up any hams. (BTW I am
in the New York City area) Yes it is a very short band and it might be
more related to 2 meters, I would think.

So why would Hammarlund go through the effort to add terminals on the
rear of this radio. My only guess is that at the time hams were using
the 6 meters a lot more.

Also, this radio does not seem to pick up much on the 21-21.6 and 28-30
bands.

....
Even up to forty years ago, six meters was often the band of choice
for those who used VHF. There was the US Technician license that only
allowed for operation at 50MHz and up (and here in Canada, you could only
use voice with the basic license at 50MHz and up). Since 50MHz was the
lowest band useable by the Technician class licenses, they tended to use it.
Because as uncommon as good propagation was, it was more common than at
2meters. And when conditions were good, you could work fairly good
distances, and with relatively little equipment. Plus, there was a lot of
simple and low power commercial gear manufactured for the band, so the band
did tend to be used for local use. Ironically, when a band is in regular
use it means people are more likely to notice the good propagation, because
they are there already.


6 Meters is right below Channel 2, and is guarenteed to mess up televison
if it's used in your city. That rules out base stations with big antennas,
unless you like fighting with your neighbors.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)


matt weber October 4th 05 05:04 AM

Hammarlund HQ-170
 
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 02:05:29 -0400, SR wrote:

I notice something interesting about this radio. Their are terminal for
6 meters. Throughout the last 10 years when I had scanned the 6 meters
on my scanner, I do not think I had never picked up any hams. (BTW I am
in the New York City area) Yes it is a very short band and it might be
more related to 2 meters, I would think.

So why would Hammarlund go through the effort to add terminals on the
rear of this radio. My only guess is that at the time hams were using
the 6 meters a lot more.

Also, this radio does not seem to pick up much on the 21-21.6 and 28-30
bands.

I have a reprint copy of the manual. I was reading the part of the SEND
RECEIVE CAL button. And somehow this has something to do with something
called BREAK-IN RELAY. (There is a relay female chassis connector at
the rear.)

Because of this can this radio make some kind of transmission?

Could someone please explain this to me in layman terms.


Most likely the CAl position turns on small quartz crystal osciallator
with a 100Khz crystal. It generates harmonics at 100Khz intervals, and
isued to calibrate the dial on the radio. Turn it on, set the receiver
to CW, and zero beat the calibrator signal, adjust the tuning dial
accordingly. It makes the dial readout more accurate.

You don't want it on all the time, because it will wipe out any signal
you reall want to hear that is close to a multiple of 100Khz.

Many receivers have a provision to put them into standby by remote
control. The remote control was often provided by a relay.
In a PTT or VOX operationg, the transmitter would provide a signal to
either activate a relay, or command the receiver into standby when the
transmitter came on, and take it out of standby, back into receive
when the transmitter went off. This was frequently called break-in
operation, and is much easier and faster than turning the receiver to
standby, turning on the transmitter (even with PTT), turning off the
transmitter and turning the receiver back on.

.. Even with a T/R switch in place, it would be rare to be able to
provide enough isolation to prevent the receiver from 'hearing" the
transmitter, hence the need to take the receiver effectively offline
in standby..

'Send' just puts the receiver in standby usually




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