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My V8 - an LS1 5.7 litre 6 speed manual is used almost exclusively for
regular interstate trips with four on-boad and
a trunk-load of heavy gear.


Without trying, according to the trip computer it regularly returns 8.9

litres per 100 Kms on ULP on these trips, a figure many 4 cylinder cars

with 2-up can't match. The best I have seen is 8.1litres/100 kms but
that was all downhill.


I would probably get even better figues if I didn't have to come off
cruise control and then reset because some dawdling dimwit in a
rice-burner is hogging the right (passing) - lane and won't move over
until he sees the whites of your eyes.


Makin, if LPG ever becomes an acceptable alternative in huge numbers,
it too will become expensive.


Or Ethanol? Look at BRAZIL. Cars are running there on Ethanol only. VW

has a model out


The Government in not about to see it's share of petrol products
revenue diminish, so whatever is used in viable numbers as an
alternative to petroleum will suffer the same profiteering fat

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My V8 - an LS1 5.7 litre 6 speed manual is used almost exclusively for
regular interstate trips with four on-boad and
a trunk-load of heavy gear.


Without trying, according to the trip computer it regularly returns 8.9

litres per 100 Kms on ULP on these trips, a figure many 4 cylinder cars

with 2-up can't match. The best I have seen is 8.1litres/100 kms but
that was all downhill.


I would probably get even better figues if I didn't have to come off
cruise control and then reset because some dawdling dimwit in a
rice-burner is hogging the right (passing) - lane and won't move over
until he sees the whites of your eyes.


Makin, if LPG ever becomes an acceptable alternative in huge numbers,
it too will become expensive.


Or Ethanol? Look at BRAZIL. Cars are running there on Ethanol only. VW

has a model out


The Government in not about to see it's share of petrol products
revenue diminish, so whatever is used in viable numbers as an
alternative to petroleum will suffer the same profiteering fat



As titillating as it might be to hammer and rail about government
complicity in corporate profiteering, Ethanol comes with it's own set of
problems. Being a lower yield fuel per gram, a greater volume of it
needs to be produced to replace each gallon of petroleum based fuel use
in the population. Since Ethanol is produced by processes originating
with organic materials, usually corn or other high sugar/starch
producing crops, the demand for farm products will skyrocket. As they
have with soy diesel. And that's a good thing.

Until another scorching drought, like the two or three we've had over
the last 15 years, at least one of which wiped out the corn crop,
impacting not only ethanol prices (which in limited consumption STILL
spiked dramatically in price) as well as food prices. With growers
operating at a substantial percentage of capacity, if Ethanol were to
replace petroleum just in the US, production irregularities and
shortfalls would be as common as they are in petroleum, today.

The smart thing, but who in goverment, or activism, ever does the
smart thing. is to produce flexible fuel engines that can run on a
variety of fuels. Well, those Heathen Devil Evil Corporations are
already doing it.

Without government input.

GM, Ford and Chrysler having fielded a substantial percentage of
flex-fuel engines of their corporate fleets already. And having been
doing so for the last 5 years in some cases.

Chrysler has in each line of engines, at least one model, usually the
midrange power model, that is exclusively flex-fuel.

Damn, them evil *******s.

Flex-fuels will permit petro/ethanol blends to be run in virtually
any proportion, in response to the vagaries of production, demand, or
natural catastrophe no matter where the shortfall happens. Further, flex
fuels takes the pressures of both ethanol AND petroleum production, they
burn cleaner, and have been demonstrated to reduce maintenance and
repair costs on vehicles when they're tried. Solving a host of problems,
on all fronts, simultaneously.

Damn, them evil corporate monsters.

So, why do we not see flex fuel-pumps at every Exxon or Amoco station?

Good question. Because ExxonMobil and Amoco are champing at the bit
to put in flex-fuel pumps.

Seems that government regulations are getting in the way. Even here
in Illinois. And it's not about profits, or even taxes. Alcohol is taxed
just like petrol. And with more fuel avaialable to be sold, there would
be more per gallon tax raised for federal, state and local governments.
But that doesn't seem to matter.

Thank God we've got activism driven governmental agencies to protect
us from those evil corporate *******s.

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About two years ago,I read somewhere that VW in Europe sells a VW model
that gets over 70 miles per gallon.But folks in America just don't seem
to be interested in buying those models of VW cars.They probally would
be interested nowdays considering the high prices of gasoline and diesel
fuel.Assuming if VW would start importing those models of VW cars.
cuhulin

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www.wardsauto.com is an auto news website I check out at least once
everyday.Of course there are many other auto related news sites on the
internet too.
cuhulin

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Think the 70 + MPG are Diesels.. Very small cars with Crummy
acceleration & poor top speed..

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I have owned three VW's before.The first one I bought was at Steakley
Chevrolet used car department in 1965 in Killeen,Texas when I was in the
Army.Fort Hood is right next door to Killeen.It was a 1961 VW van and
had been a Chicken On Call van that someone previously owned and used it
to drive around at Fort Hood,selling sandwiches and soft drinks and
candy.One time when I came home on a three day holiday pass from Fort
Hood,I saw an ad in the local Clarion Ledger newspaper about a 1963 VW
car for sale for $1,100 and I bought that car and I drove it back to
Fort Hood,I later on sold my 1961 VW van and later on traded my 1963 VW
car in on a very nice 1967 Ford Car at Blackwell Chevrolet here in
Jackson.In 1978,I saw a 1970 VW van for sale,it was red with a white
roof and I traded my 1967 Ford car in on the 1970 VW van,I should have
hung on to my 1967 Ford car.Those old VW's didn't have enough power to
get out of their own way and you freeze to death in the winter time.I
swore off of VW vehicles forever.
cuhulin

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Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote:
wrote:
Think the 70 + MPG are Diesels.. Very small cars with Crummy
acceleration & poor top speed..


And that is part of our problem, everyone wants macho acceleration and
high speed.

another part of the problem is that we NEED that acceleration (and
mondo braking ability) just to drive get ourselves out the mess caused
by a refusal of many drivers to drive safely

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CHRIS
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Reality check for gas guzzlers
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The car has been playing up a bit... slow when starting... so was going
to take it to the garage today for a check up.

Took the kids to school as usual, and went shopping. Came out loaded to
the gills with junk... like those totally essential flashing Xmas
lights for the garden and the flashing Xmas Hats for us to wear once
but without which the holiday simply wouldn't be a holiday... would
it?? But is it *really* almost that time again - gawd?? It only seems
like a year ago it was this close last time!!

While I was there I took the opportunity of buying a load of frozen
gear... one of the kids is 6 next week and she wants a 'pool party' -
in September mark you brr so we have to have it here... oh joy, oh
rapture, oh god... just the *thought* of 25 screaming 6 year old girls
needing to be entertained fills me with horror - I think maybe I'll
call an 'entertainer'... anyway, I thought I'd get in early to save
time next week... as you do.

So, into the car goes the shopping... into the car goes I... and that's
where I stay... why? No power... well not enough to start her up
anyway.

Luckily this car is leased so I call the support line... who tell me
they use NRMA... who tell me there'll be a 60 - 90 minute wait. (see
"oh joy" etc above and repeat...) This was 10:17.

I sit there... not that I could do much else... I read "That's Life",
listen to classical FM cos the radio still just manages to work... and
listen to the sound of frozen food slowly defrosting itself... and
wait.

Suddenly the screen in the car lights up and tells me to switch off
totally or it will explode in 7 seconds... well ok... it tells me the
power will fail totally in 7 seconds... but it's much the same thing...
anyway I was told to switch off **or else**... I didn't learn what the
'or else' would be because at that moment up came the NRMA guy...
arrived at 11:30... not too bad I suppose.

Utilising the vast store of motoring knowledge I've accumulated over
the years, I let him know that I thought the problem may be a dry
battery... of course I've never looked under the bonnet in 3 years so I
didn't even know for sure it even *had* a battery.. but still. You have
to appear in control don't you?

So he humours me... and looks... and of course it wasn't... typical...
but it *was* shot... he told me... though how could I check? Either
way, after 3 years hard work, the battery was replaced. Symptomatic of
modern life I suppose... give all you have and be cast off once you
can't perform as well as you did. Eh? Cynical moi? Never... !!

Anyway... it turns out that *I* have to *pay* for it because even tho
the NRMA guy was called out by the support line... apparently there is
no way I can charge the battery through the NRMA and back to them...
grrr!!!

And that of course is pretty much the end of the story. Ten minutes
later and $140 lighter, I'm back on the road. I get home safe and
sound... end of story. Except of course I now have to try to get the
$140 back off the lease company... and won't *that* be fun!!

Chris