FDR wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
'j',
.
It would appear that FDR would zealously persecute any Person-of-Faith
in the interest of promoting a Liberal Enlightened {Secular} Society :
Where all are equals provided their thoughts are of one Left-Wing
Accord.
.
~ RHF

And RHF would turn us into a Islamic type government where government was
based on a holy book.

GWB is ahead of RHF on that one! Have you seen the cartoon with the United
States of Canada and Jesusland?

JB

"FDR" wrote

You must have forgotten all about the Cruisades and the inquisitions too.


And you have conveniently forgotten the history of Islam's murderous
"Cruisade".
So hypocritical of you.

"Brian Denley" wrote

Any idea why US science student lag behind all other modern countries
(except fundamentalists ones of course)?


You sound like a shill for the Public School Teachers Union.

I have a very simple answer for your question and it fundamentally has
nothing to do with the teacher's and its "Socialist" liberal Union. It all
boils down to the parents or rather, parent as in singular.

In the U.S. the growing percentage of disadvantaged students from single
parent households enrolled in public schools is a key problem. As the
teacher spends more and more of his or her time disciplining disruptive
students in class the parents of average and above average students find
their children are not getting the education that their tax dollars are
supposed to deliver. The answer for them is also simple. Move to another,
better school district or enroll in a private school. In most cases private
school is the best choice and the Public school system with their teachers
Liberal/Socialist agenda can "go to hell!"

"FDR" wrote

You have rights, and your rights can be and should be preached at home or
at
church. School should be about learning math, english, geography, etc.
Not
about how God made Eve from Adam's rib.


Who the **** are you to tell anyone how they should teach their children?

Give me your children and I'll show you what teaching is all about.
Oh never mind. You likely have never had any children. Legitimate anyway.

Consevatives complain so much about how government is so bad at doing
things, and yet they beg to have them in the religion teaching business.

They are not advocating "teaching" religion. They are simply advocating
giving
students an awareness of other points of view so that students themselves
can
decide in what to beleive or not beleive and not have to be forcefully
indoctrinated
in the liberal, "progressive", socialist, communist athiest ideology.

No one is trying to shove the "teaching" of religion in public schools.
They simply wish to point out to students the "possible" alternative points
of view.
The Left-wing is absolutely frightened to the core that this would undermine
their Socialist and
ultimately Communist agenda. And you know what? It most certainly will!

Some of my friends were killed by Atheist terrorists!

"Sherman" wrote in message
...
Some of my friends were killed by Christian terrorists.

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:12:04 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote:


And you have conveniently forgotten the history of Islam's murderous
"Cruisade".

Is that Jihad conducted in low-rider cars?

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:27:11 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote:



"Brian Denley" wrote




The problem is 2-fold.

The Neorepublicans want lots of cheap labor to depress wages so the
allow gray immigration which taxes the school systems. they refuse to
pay for schools, causing substandard educations for everyone. More
dumb ****ers means more depressed wages.

SeeingEyeDog wrote:
And you have conveniently forgotten the history of Islam's murderous
"Cruisade".

You don't know what you are talking about. "Crusading" literally meant
to take up the cross to fight the Muslim infidels, except when it was
used as an excuse to pillage and loot Christian Byzantium. Musselmen
would not become Crusaders. Moorish Spain, like the rest of the
Islamic world, was a haven of tolerance for the other peoples of the
Book, unlike the areas that enjoyed the benefits of the reconquista
where the Jews and Moors were either expelled or forced to convert to
Christianity.

David wrote:

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:27:11 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote:



"Brian Denley" wrote




The problem is 2-fold.

The Neorepublicans want lots of cheap labor to depress wages so the
allow gray immigration which taxes the school systems. they refuse to
pay for schools, causing substandard educations for everyone. More
dumb ****ers means more depressed wages.

Well, we certainly don't need any more dumb ****ers such as yourself, brain
stem.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 09:40:16 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote:




Who the **** are you to tell anyone how they should teach their children?

Give me your children and I'll show you what teaching is all about.
Oh never mind. You likely have never had any children. Legitimate anyway.


They are not advocating "teaching" religion. They are simply advocating
giving
students an awareness of other points of view so that students themselves
can
decide in what to beleive or not beleive and not have to be forcefully
indoctrinated
in the liberal, "progressive", socialist, communist athiest ideology.

No one is trying to shove the "teaching" of religion in public schools.
They simply wish to point out to students the "possible" alternative points
of view.
The Left-wing is absolutely frightened to the core that this would undermine
their Socialist and
ultimately Communist agenda. And you know what? It most certainly will!
Teaching unscientific stuff in science class is nothing less than
anarchy. It is undermining the foundation of democracy which is that
we are a well-educated electorate.

The fascistas want us to be stupid, scared and confused. I can think
of no better vehicle for accomplishing that than the perversion called
Judeo/Christian/Moslem (what is that called ''Abrahamism'' or
something) religion being taught to our children as anything other
than a relic from a darker time.