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Old October 28th 05, 07:49 PM
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M...sushi.com wrote:

I suggest getting a gell cell to avoid battery acid spills or fumes. I

only use mine when in the field, so I don't have a set up as you
suggest. I charge my battery from a bench supply using 13.8v as a
float voltage.

Thanks, also to RHF and Cuhulin. I just took a look at these gel cells
on a couple of websites, incluidng the one recommended by RHF and some
others. This, of course, raises more questions :-)

How big a charger must one have? Must the current available on the
charger be some minimum fraction of the amp-hours of the battery, or
can one use a smaller charger and just leave it on longer?

Also, is the charge time a simple proportion between the charger
current and the battery amp-hour value? i.e., to recharge an 18
amp-hour battery with a 10-amp charger, the charge time is 1.8 hours -
?

Is it OK to drain a gel cell until it loses almost all of its charge?
Or is there some minimum level at which one must stop (25%, 50% or
etc)?

Finally, once the gel cell battery is fully charged, how does one know,
and will it hurt if the charger is kept on without checking? Does a
charger have a device to shut off when full charge is reached?

Thanks,
Bruce

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Old October 28th 05, 08:20 PM
 
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Look at some of those battery powered toy cars and battery powered two
wheelers in the stores.The kind meant for kids to ride around the yard
on.Check the information on the batteries and the battery chargers for
those batteries.Sometimes,thrift stores and yard sales have second hand
battery powered kids cars and battery powered two wheelers.I see them
every once in a while at the Goodwill store near me.I have no idea how
much those gel cell batteries cost or how long gel cell batteries are
suppose to last,I have never used them before.
cuhulin

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Old October 28th 05, 08:47 PM
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Look at some of those battery powered toy cars and battery powered two
wheelers in the stores.The kind meant for kids to ride around the yard
on.Check the information on the batteries and the battery chargers for
those batteries.Sometimes,thrift stores and yard sales have second hand

battery powered kids cars and battery powered two wheelers.I see them
every once in a while at the Goodwill store near me.I have no idea how
much those gel cell batteries cost or how long gel cell batteries are
suppose to last,I have never used them before.
cuhulin

The sites I checked seemed to have quality gel cells in about the right
size (I think) for my application - 12v, 18 or higher amp-hours -
starting at around $20 to $40, not bad at all. Chargers are all over
the place, from a 1-amp charger at 6 to 20 bucks up to 100-amp chargers
(overkill, I'd bet) for silly sums of money.

My kid has a toy motorcycle powered by a gel cell, now that I think of
it - requires about 2 hours charge for 1/2 hour use before it gets too
weak to be useful. The charger is probably near a trickle compared
with the optimal output of the battery, but I will check - thank for
the idea!

Bruce Jensen

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Old October 28th 05, 09:26 PM
 
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Freight on these SLA's can be an issue. Sometimes it pays just to buy
the battery in a store.

A bit OT, but depending on where you use the battery, it sometimes
helps to install rubber feet on the bottom IF you will have the battery
sitting on cold cement. I do this for outdoor applications.

bpnjensen wrote:
Look at some of those battery powered toy cars and battery powered two

wheelers in the stores.The kind meant for kids to ride around the yard
on.Check the information on the batteries and the battery chargers for
those batteries.Sometimes,thrift stores and yard sales have second hand

battery powered kids cars and battery powered two wheelers.I see them
every once in a while at the Goodwill store near me.I have no idea how
much those gel cell batteries cost or how long gel cell batteries are
suppose to last,I have never used them before.
cuhulin

The sites I checked seemed to have quality gel cells in about the right
size (I think) for my application - 12v, 18 or higher amp-hours -
starting at around $20 to $40, not bad at all. Chargers are all over
the place, from a 1-amp charger at 6 to 20 bucks up to 100-amp chargers
(overkill, I'd bet) for silly sums of money.

My kid has a toy motorcycle powered by a gel cell, now that I think of
it - requires about 2 hours charge for 1/2 hour use before it gets too
weak to be useful. The charger is probably near a trickle compared
with the optimal output of the battery, but I will check - thank for
the idea!

Bruce Jensen


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Old October 28th 05, 09:43 PM
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Freight on these SLA's can be an issue. Sometimes it pays just to buy
the battery in a store.

Good tip.

A bit OT, but depending on where you use the battery, it sometimes

helps to install rubber feet on the bottom IF you will have the battery

sitting on cold cement. I do this for outdoor applications.

It will be in our bedroom, mounted on the inner back wall of the radio
table.

BJ



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Old October 28th 05, 10:06 PM
 
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Whatever you do,don't smoke near a car type wet cell battery and don't
drop a car type wet cell battery,,, they can and sometimes do explode!
You can find pictures on the internet or see batteries that have
exploded in scrap metal/junk yards.Not a pretty sight at all.
cuhulin

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Old October 28th 05, 10:18 PM
 
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www.devilfinder.com Exploded auto batteries.

Some of those cell phone batteries have been known to explode too.Always
buy a new cell phone battery for your cell phone (if you have a cell
phone,I don't own one) at a cell phone store that sells the same brand
name and model number of the required battery for your cell phone.
cuhulin

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Old October 28th 05, 10:31 PM
 
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www.devilfinder.com Optima car batteries

If you plan on using a car type battery in your home,an Optima battery
might be best.Especially if an Optima battery will last much longer than
a regular wet cell car type battery.
cuhulin

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Old October 28th 05, 10:54 PM
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If you plan on using a car type battery in your home,an Optima battery
might be best.Especially if an Optima battery will last much longer
than
a regular wet cell car type battery.
cuhulin

I appreciate this, and it might be OK in the garage, but I don't think
my lady would care much for an unsealed wet-cell battery of any kind in
the house. I think I'll look for the sealed kind.

BJ

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Old October 28th 05, 08:33 PM
 
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www.devilfinder.com Information about Gel Cell Batteries and Gel
Cell Battery Chargers

Some information there at that good old devilfinder.com search.
cuhulin



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