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Problems with Degen 1103
Sorry for being a troll here, but I thought I had better make mention of
my situation in case other people are considering purchasing a Degen radio such as 1103 from Ebay or Liypn I first have to praise Liypn being professional and answering *direct* questions anyone has. However, the products that are exported by Degen, specifically the 1103 lacks proper testing and quality control. The consumer should be aware of this fact, but Liypn or other Ebay sellers make no mention of this. Of course, some may say, "why should they"? Any how, I spent over $120 for the radio including sending it back to China for warranty repair. I was one of the unlucky ones where there was a tuner issue with the 1103's. I could've bought something more reliable and with a better warranty where shipping was not an issue for less. As I didn't use the radio very much, the tuner issue didn't render its ugly face until near the end of the warranty period. I contacted the seller and I was reminded that I was responsible for shipping. Fair enough, I knew that already. My radio was in mint shape, no scratches or anything. I sent the radio to China and then I am informed when it arrived that it was NOT in mint shape because one of the radio's 5 cent face sticker was curling (cheap adhesive was used). I was informed that since the radio is NOT mint there would be an added charge. Another way to make a money. So, I pay the difference and get a [supposed] new version of the 1103. I receive it and the first thing I notice is that the battery compartment is a little smaller than the old radio because I had a difficult time inserting the stock rechargeable batteries that originally came with the 1103. Then, I proceeded to use the radio. I tried the FM and tried shortwave. FM was fine, short wave had a lot of distortion. I then proceeded to program my favourite local AM radio stations. The AM band has moderate distortion too. I checked the Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaito-de1103/ and I found out that many people are complaining about the distortion issue with the [Degen 1103]'s. My point is that everyone needs to be careful. I don't recommend buying from a retailer in China, irregardless if many people are happy with his service. The quality and quality control may be lacking as is with the 1103's. You live and learn. I shall not buy from this Ebay seller again nor from someone overseas unless I can afford to absorb the cost of the item if something is defective. I know there are people here in support of Lipyn, but I had to share my experiences as it appears not be atypical, despite the high rating the seller receives from his buyers (he does sell other products too). After a while, you can't change your feedback on Ebay, so that could be why the ratings are high. There is no ratings or areas of feedback for post 6 months. Enough of my ranting. Cheers, |
Problems with Degen 1103
- Have more or less the same take on Degen DE1105;
- a Nice, Nice radio, but some initial QC problems... frustrating but work-aroundable.. their statement that " Outside Interference may cause the radio to not operate properly " - sounds like funky / Buggy control software.. they suggest that taking out the batteries out for 10 minutes.. - In other words, " Reboot The Radio" - Sometimes turning it on / off or replacing the batteries does the trick here.. did not trust the " rechargeables " 220 volt stuff, one little glitch could fry the radio Anyhoo.. really like the radio, feel I have gotten my $$$'s worth.. and would repurchase one / similar one from the same seller. really, where else can you get a shirt pocket sized radio - Degen DE1105 in this case - that will let you walk around in the early hours in Northeast U.S.A Listening to radio Australia off the whip ?? |
Problems with Degen 1103
Those cheap quality plug in the wall outlets (or with useing an
adapter/wall wart) Chinese radios are likely to burn your house down too. cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
Why would anyone buy an electronic product directly from China in the
first place?...I am not sure how you would save any money buying a degen from China, over a Kaito that are sold in North America...At least if you bought it here you don't have to spend $40 to have it shiped back to China for any warranty work if needed... |
Problems with Degen 1103
I've said it hundreds of times - DON'T BUY CHINESE BRANDED ELECTRONICS! You
will do much more than save your cash - believe me. "Ranting" wrote in message news:S4abf.413730$1i.372739@pd7tw2no... Sorry for being a troll here, but I thought I had better make mention of my situation in case other people are considering purchasing a Degen radio such as 1103 from Ebay or Liypn I first have to praise Liypn being professional and answering *direct* questions anyone has. However, the products that are exported by Degen, specifically the 1103 lacks proper testing and quality control. The consumer should be aware of this fact, but Liypn or other Ebay sellers make no mention of this. Of course, some may say, "why should they"? Any how, I spent over $120 for the radio including sending it back to China for warranty repair. I was one of the unlucky ones where there was a tuner issue with the 1103's. I could've bought something more reliable and with a better warranty where shipping was not an issue for less. As I didn't use the radio very much, the tuner issue didn't render its ugly face until near the end of the warranty period. I contacted the seller and I was reminded that I was responsible for shipping. Fair enough, I knew that already. My radio was in mint shape, no scratches or anything. I sent the radio to China and then I am informed when it arrived that it was NOT in mint shape because one of the radio's 5 cent face sticker was curling (cheap adhesive was used). I was informed that since the radio is NOT mint there would be an added charge. Another way to make a money. So, I pay the difference and get a [supposed] new version of the 1103. I receive it and the first thing I notice is that the battery compartment is a little smaller than the old radio because I had a difficult time inserting the stock rechargeable batteries that originally came with the 1103. Then, I proceeded to use the radio. I tried the FM and tried shortwave. FM was fine, short wave had a lot of distortion. I then proceeded to program my favourite local AM radio stations. The AM band has moderate distortion too. I checked the Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaito-de1103/ and I found out that many people are complaining about the distortion issue with the [Degen 1103]'s. My point is that everyone needs to be careful. I don't recommend buying from a retailer in China, irregardless if many people are happy with his service. The quality and quality control may be lacking as is with the 1103's. You live and learn. I shall not buy from this Ebay seller again nor from someone overseas unless I can afford to absorb the cost of the item if something is defective. I know there are people here in support of Lipyn, but I had to share my experiences as it appears not be atypical, despite the high rating the seller receives from his buyers (he does sell other products too). After a while, you can't change your feedback on Ebay, so that could be why the ratings are high. There is no ratings or areas of feedback for post 6 months. Enough of my ranting. Cheers, |
Problems with Degen 1103
"GP" wrote least if you bought it here you don't have to spend $40 to have it shiped back to China for any warranty work if needed... That's is because of the high mark-up. These cheap Chinese radios are sold at or below cost. The U.S. dealer can just toss it in the trash and send you a new one and still hold a profit. The Chinese simply want to muscle out all the competition in the low end portables. Get a Sony while you still can. |
Problems with Degen 1103
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:09:54 GMT, "Ranting" wrote:
Sorry for being a troll here, but I thought I had better make mention of my situation in case other people are considering purchasing a Degen radio such as 1103 from Ebay or Liypn I first have to praise Liypn being professional and answering *direct* questions anyone has. However, the products that are exported by Degen, specifically the 1103 lacks proper testing and quality control. The consumer should be aware of this fact, but Liypn or other Ebay sellers make no mention of this. Of course, some may say, "why should they"? Any how, I spent over $120 for the radio including sending it back to China for warranty repair. I was one of the unlucky ones where there was a tuner issue with the 1103's. I could've bought something more reliable and with a better warranty where shipping was not an issue for less. As I didn't use the radio very much, the tuner issue didn't render its ugly face until near the end of the warranty period. I contacted the seller and I was reminded that I was responsible for shipping. Fair enough, I knew that already. My radio was in mint shape, no scratches or anything. I sent the radio to China and then I am informed when it arrived that it was NOT in mint shape because one of the radio's 5 cent face sticker was curling (cheap adhesive was used). I was informed that since the radio is NOT mint there would be an added charge. Another way to make a money. So, I pay the difference and get a [supposed] new version of the 1103. I receive it and the first thing I notice is that the battery compartment is a little smaller than the old radio because I had a difficult time inserting the stock rechargeable batteries that originally came with the 1103. Then, I proceeded to use the radio. I tried the FM and tried shortwave. FM was fine, short wave had a lot of distortion. I then proceeded to program my favourite local AM radio stations. The AM band has moderate distortion too. I checked the Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaito-de1103/ and I found out that many people are complaining about the distortion issue with the [Degen 1103]'s. My point is that everyone needs to be careful. I don't recommend buying from a retailer in China, irregardless if many people are happy with his service. The quality and quality control may be lacking as is with the 1103's. You live and learn. I shall not buy from this Ebay seller again nor from someone overseas unless I can afford to absorb the cost of the item if something is defective. I know there are people here in support of Lipyn, but I had to share my experiences as it appears not be atypical, despite the high rating the seller receives from his buyers (he does sell other products too). After a while, you can't change your feedback on Ebay, so that could be why the ratings are high. There is no ratings or areas of feedback for post 6 months. Enough of my ranting. Cheers, Interesting. I have purchased lots of radios from two different ebay vendors from China, so this peeked my interest. I have been luckey.......so far, and everything has been fine for me. They nicked you for taking off the stickers on the front of the radio? I never would have thought of that. Pretty low if you ask me. When I buy from the China radio sellers, I go in with the notion that if there are problems with the goods, I will just have to eat the loss and move on. Sorry that you got stung like that, but thanks for the heads up on the warranty issues. |
Problems with Degen 1103
SeeingEyeDog wrote:
I've said it hundreds of times - DON'T BUY CHINESE BRANDED ELECTRONICS! You will do much more than save your cash - believe me. The commies target industries to dominate. Try buying a light fixture that ISN'T made in China. Cheap electronics? Same thing. Check out magnets. I did a search for Super magnets (neodymium) the other day. It seems China is the only one making them now. I couldn't find any other source. The availability of near slave labour, very low corporate taxation and NO pollution laws, make China an attractive place for corporations to fatten their bottom lines. China is now the US's largest trading partner and produces something close to thirty percent of all manufactured good in the world. They have a massive space program and one of the world's largest armies. Canada, in their wisdom, is sending them FOREIGN AID money. It appears stupidity, incompetence and massive corruption are not limited to Washington. mike |
Problems with Degen 1103
bush kowtowed to the Chinese Chicoms too,if you remember Hainan
Island.bush apologized to the Chinese Chicoms and sent them about $18,000 of OUR money! cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
"rav" wrote in message ... : They nicked you for taking off the stickers on the front of the radio? : I never would have thought of that. Pretty low if you ask me. Actually, the stickers were not removed, it was just ONE sticker that was a *little* curled. If I knew Liypn would've been so anal about that, I would have easily used some glue to straighten it out. Again, I don't have faith or trust in people like him. I am glad at least that your experiences have been different than mine. Never again will I buy another China product unless it comes with an extended warranty, even if I have to pay a bit more. Like someone said, a cheap man always pays more in the end. |
Problems with Degen 1103
I would Never order anything direct from China! Like someone said,Live
and Learn. cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
ut ohhh,, I have to watch The Bridge at Remagen movie on tv now,,, and I
thought I was fixin to cut the light and tell Blueberry doggy to move over and don't toot in my face and get me beauty sleep. cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 06:18:39 GMT, "Ranting" wrote:
"rav" wrote in message .. . : They nicked you for taking off the stickers on the front of the radio? : I never would have thought of that. Pretty low if you ask me. Actually, the stickers were not removed, it was just ONE sticker that was a *little* curled. If I knew Liypn would've been so anal about that, I would have easily used some glue to straighten it out. Again, I don't have faith or trust in people like him. I am glad at least that your experiences have been different than mine. Never again will I buy another China product unless it comes with an extended warranty, even if I have to pay a bit more. Like someone said, a cheap man always pays more in the end. *Rolling eyes and shaking head* They more than likely just chucked the defective unit anyway. Unfortunately "made in China" is the norm BECAUSE most folks want the cheapest product that they can find. It is true.....you get what you pay for.....most of the time anyway. |
Problems with Degen 1103
I buy my radios at the Goodwill store from two dollars up to four
dollars each,,, except for my old Telefunken/Grundig AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph wooden cabinet floor model radio that I paid fourteen dollars for as soon as Jerry rolled it in from the back door of the Goodwill store that used to be on Palmyra Street in beautifull down town Jackson about six years ago.I reckon the radio is worth what I paid for it.Back to me movie on tv now,The Bridge at Remagen. cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
There are some outfits in China that have "company houshing" and the
people whom work at those "outfits/factorys" are not allowed to leave the "company houshing" areas.They are slaves.You ever watched the Grapes of Wrath movie before? cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
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Problems with Degen 1103
Ranting wrote: Sorry for being a troll here, but I thought I had better make mention of my situation in case other people are considering purchasing a Degen radio such as 1103 from Ebay or Liypn I first have to praise Liypn being professional and answering *direct* questions anyone has. However, the products that are exported by Degen, specifically the 1103 lacks proper testing and quality control. Degen isn't exporting the Degen DE1103, they are exporting the Kaito DE1103. Dealers like Liypn are in-fact re-sellers with no apparent tie to Degen. The consumer should be aware of this fact, but Liypn or other Ebay sellers make no mention of this. Of course, some may say, "why should they"? Any how, I spent over $120 for the radio including sending it back to China for warranty repair. I was one of the unlucky ones where there was a tuner issue with the 1103's. I could've bought something more reliable and with a better warranty where shipping was not an issue for less. I bought a Degen DE1103 from Liypn in November of 2004 and it has not failed or even hiccupped once. Seller Liypn ran out of radios, but kept me fully informed of the next shipment and even kicked in an extra set of NIMH batts as compensation. I would do business with him again. My radio from Liypn cost about $68.00 or so shipped to the US with his seller extended warranty. How did you end up paying twice as much??? There are however several design problems noted below. As I didn't use the radio very much, the tuner issue didn't render its ugly face until near the end of the warranty period. I contacted the seller and I was reminded that I was responsible for shipping. Fair enough, I knew that already. My radio was in mint shape, no scratches or anything. I sent the radio to China and then I am informed when it arrived that it was NOT in mint shape because one of the radio's 5 cent face sticker was curling (cheap adhesive was used). I was informed that since the radio is NOT mint there would be an added charge. Another way to make a money. I suspect there were more quality issues than a peeling sticker. So, I pay the difference and get a [supposed] new version of the 1103. I receive it and the first thing I notice is that the battery compartment is a little smaller than the old radio because I had a difficult time inserting the stock rechargeable batteries that originally came with the 1103. Then, I proceeded to use the radio. I tried the FM and tried shortwave. FM was fine, short wave had a lot of distortion. I then proceeded to program my favourite local AM radio stations. The AM band has moderate distortion too. Don't know the answer here. My late 2004 production DE1103 has excellent audio from the tiny speaker and from the headphones on all bands. I DX a Canadian oldies station on AM 740 and the sound is delightful - not FM, but enjoyable. There are some fundamental design errors however: 1. Numbering memories in hexadecimal severly limits the usefuless of 250+ memories. I can't even begin to guess at the reasoning behind this choice.... 2. Added to that is a flaw in the firmware that transfers the highest FM frequency to the FM band when any AM frequency is selected from memory and vice versa. 3. The horizontal keypad was a compromise to allow the analog LCD display. It is difficult to use and is of limited usefulness. 4. The space used by the LCD analog display could have been used for numerous useful features. 5. There is unneeded extra button to switch the single control from vfo to volume control. One gets used to it but it is unneeded. The DE1103 is a complicated radio that was not thoroughly tested by end users before being placed in production. Still, for the money it provides good listening performance. I checked the Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kaito-de1103/ and I found out that many people are complaining about the distortion issue with the [Degen 1103]'s. My point is that everyone needs to be careful. I don't recommend buying from a retailer in China, irregardless if many people are happy with his service. The quality and quality control may be lacking as is with the 1103's. You live and learn. I shall not buy from this Ebay seller again nor from someone overseas unless I can afford to absorb the cost of the item if something is defective. I know there are people here in support of Lipyn, but I had to share my experiences as it appears not be atypical, despite the high rating the seller receives from his buyers (he does sell other products too). After a while, you can't change your feedback on Ebay, so that could be why the ratings are high. There is no ratings or areas of feedback for post 6 months. Enough of my ranting. Cheers, |
Problems with Degen 1103
All dogs are much better judges of us humans than we can ever be.You
don't have to worry about my little doggy.I am not crazy. cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
A few years ago,I read about a certain brand name of electric coffee
maker thingys (I don't remember the brand name) that some of them would short out and catch fire.There is a home in Florida and their Daimler Chrysler hybrid electric car in their garage was being recharged,the car caught fire and burnt most of their house down. cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
If an electric appliance device doesn't have a UL approval thingy on
it,my advice is,leave the d..n thing alone,don't buy it! cuhulin |
Problems with Degen 1103
In that case,pick up the phone and call the Better Business Bureau.I am
trying to find my two pairs of old climbing spikes.They strap on legs and each one has a steel spike on them.I own two pairs of them I bought at a pawn shop on Northwest Street about twenty years ago.One pair of them is for climbing poles,the other pair have longer spikes and are for climbing trees.I looked under my bed where I thought I had put them,they are not there.That means I am going to have to shift mountains of junk around in my house to find them. cuhulin |
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