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What frequencies would have been used for communications? HF? VHF?

http://www.boatnerd.com/

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html

"At 7 p.m. the Anderson made radio contact with the Fitzgerald and had
her on their radar. When asked how the Fitzgerald was making out they
replied "We are holding our own". This was around 7:10 p.m.. Shortly
afterwards the Fitzgerald disappeared from the Anderson's radar
screen."

Thanks to a link at Trainorders.com for the tip.

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wrote:

What frequencies would have been used for communications? HF? VHF?

At that close a range most likely VHF, though in those days they may have still
had some HF gear on board.



http://www.boatnerd.com/

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html

"At 7 p.m. the Anderson made radio contact with the Fitzgerald and had
her on their radar. When asked how the Fitzgerald was making out they
replied "We are holding our own". This was around 7:10 p.m.. Shortly
afterwards the Fitzgerald disappeared from the Anderson's radar
screen."

Thanks to a link at Trainorders.com for the tip.

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wrote:
What frequencies would have been used for communications? HF? VHF?

http://www.boatnerd.com/

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html

"At 7 p.m. the Anderson made radio contact with the Fitzgerald and had
her on their radar. When asked how the Fitzgerald was making out they
replied "We are holding our own". This was around 7:10 p.m.. Shortly
afterwards the Fitzgerald disappeared from the Anderson's radar
screen."

Thanks to a link at Trainorders.com for the tip.

The ships also had radar, although at some point both radar units on
the Fitzgerald were knocked out. The Anderson was in more or less
constant contact by radio.

Discovery Channel ran their well done program on the sinking of the
Edmund Fitzgerald not too long ago. As I remember it a shift in wind
direction meant the ships were no longer protected by the coastline
they were hugging for protection. The huge waves gradually flooded the
heavily loaded ore ship, making it sit even lower in the water. A big
wave probably did the ship in.

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John S. wrote:

As I remember it a shift in wind direction meant the ships were no longer protected by the coastline they were hugging for protection. The huge waves gradually flooded the
heavily loaded ore ship, making it sit even lower in the water. A big
wave probably did the ship in.


"They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters." --Gordon Lightfoot

Art H.

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Art Harris wrote:

John S. wrote:

As I remember it a shift in wind direction meant the ships were no longer protected by the coastline they were hugging for protection. The huge waves gradually flooded the
heavily loaded ore ship, making it sit even lower in the water. A big
wave probably did the ship in.

"They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters." --Gordon Lightfoot

Nice tune. But he's a Canuck.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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Art Harris wrote:
John S. wrote:

As I remember it a shift in wind direction meant the ships were no longer protected by the coastline they were hugging for protection. The huge waves gradually flooded the
heavily loaded ore ship, making it sit even lower in the water. A big
wave probably did the ship in.


"They might have split up or they might have capsized
They may have broke deep and took water
And all that remains is the faces and the names
Of the wives and the sons and the daughters." --Gordon Lightfoot

Art H.

Hadn't thought of that song in years, thanks for posting it. Makes me
think of the old Woddie Guthrie song, The Sinking of the Rueben James.
The sinkings were under different circumstances, but both songs
commemorate a tragic loss of life.

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clifto wrote:

And then there's anything by Dylan, for authentic sounds of mass animal
slaughter. Given my choice between the three, I'd opt instead for the
beautiful word pictures and lithe harmonies of, say, the Trashmen in
their ever-excellent Surfin' Bird.


That is one high energy piece of music. It's amazing what they did with
a half dozen words..





mike

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I have often thought that would make one fine national anthem.

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In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Nice tune. But he's a Canuck.

So is Pamela Anderson.

Mark Zenier
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m II wrote:
clifto wrote:
And then there's anything by Dylan, for authentic sounds of mass animal
slaughter. Given my choice between the three, I'd opt instead for the
beautiful word pictures and lithe harmonies of, say, the Trashmen in
their ever-excellent Surfin' Bird.

That is one high energy piece of music. It's amazing what they did with
a half dozen words..

And the subtle nuance in the big vocal solo... *sigh* They just don't
write 'em like they used ta.

While I'm on the subject I have to give special mention to "Do The Crusher"
by The Crusher. Reason is, our new cat earned the name Dick the Bruiser,
and of course Bruiser and Crusher were cousins.

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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

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I saw that tv program a few years ago about the Edmund Fitzgerald
Ship.There was something about at least one or more of the hatches
wasen't fastened down properly.
cuhulin

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wrote:

What frequencies would have been used for communications? HF? VHF?

http://www.boatnerd.com/

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/fitz.html

"At 7 p.m. the Anderson made radio contact with the Fitzgerald and had
her on their radar. When asked how the Fitzgerald was making out they
replied "We are holding our own". This was around 7:10 p.m.. Shortly
afterwards the Fitzgerald disappeared from the Anderson's radar
screen."

Thanks to a link at Trainorders.com for the tip.

It's estimated that between 7:20 and 7:30 pm EST on November 10, 1975 the Edmund
Fitzgerald was lost.

Pause and remember.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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But the Edmund Fitzgerald Ship is still down there in the lake,isn't it?
cuhulin

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wrote:

But the Edmund Fitzgerald Ship is still down there in the lake,isn't it?

Yes, it is.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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dxAce wrote:

wrote:


But the Edmund Fitzgerald Ship is still down there in the lake,isn't it?


Yes, it is.

dxAce
Michigan
USA





520 feet down, in two pieces with the taconite cargo strewn on the
lake floor between them. Ten years ago, the bell was brought up,
cleaned, and is now in a memorial display at Whitefish Point. A replica
bell was cast from bronze, inscribed with the names of the captain and
28 crewmembers, and lowered to the ships deck. It is a permanent
gravesight, and will not be disturbed - by law - from henceforth.

Tony

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Too bad the Titanic Ship was disturbed.Really bad that some people were
down there in that Ship (before she sank) and couldn't get out because
of those locked gates.And those people up there on deck had the audacity
to have the band playing and singing,Nearer my God to Thee.
cuhulin

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Frank Dresser wrote:
"clifto" wrote...
While I'm on the subject I have to give special mention to "Do The
Crusher"
by The Crusher. Reason is, our new cat earned the name Dick the Bruiser,
and of course Bruiser and Crusher were cousins.

"Listen up, you turkeynecks. One of the most memorable characters ever in
wrestling has died. Or more correctly, gone to the big beer hall in the sky
to start raising hell again with Dick the Bruiser. All praise The Crusher,
dead Saturday at age 79. "

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/...3/1275272.html

How sad! Thanks for letting me know.

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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

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Frank Dresser wrote:
"clifto" wrote...
Given my choice between the three, I'd opt instead for the
beautiful word pictures and lithe harmonies of, say, the Trashmen in
their ever-excellent Surfin' Bird.

Ahh, but The Trashmen would opt for The Rivingtons!

Whom, I note, were once known as The Sharps (no relation).

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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

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Greetings Frank! Thanks for the great off topic post on the wrestling
history. I loved to watch the Crusher and the Bruiser when I was a kid
growing up in Northern Illinois. I saw them both in matches in
Davenport, Iowa. Crusher was an amazing guy compared to the comic book
characters of wrestling today. I can't bring myself to watch it. Have
a great weekend! Jon.

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I quit watching wrestling many years ago when it started getting so
phoney.But anyway,Rest in Peace,The Crusher.
cuhulin

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"jon" wrote in message
oups.com...
Greetings Frank! Thanks for the great off topic post on the wrestling
history. I loved to watch the Crusher and the Bruiser


Howabout Haystacks Calhoon and Leaping Lary Shane

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"Tony Meloche" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:

wrote:

They have a nice exibit about the wreck at the Whitefish Point lighthouse
musium,ships bell they brought up and a few other things. They also have
some stuff from the Fitz
on the ship Vally Camp (a lifeboat)at Siou ST Marei(US side.) Both places in
the UP.can't get spell chek to work.
But the Edmund Fitzgerald Ship is still down there in the lake,isn't it?


Yes, it is.

dxAce
Michigan
USA





520 feet down, in two pieces with the taconite cargo strewn on the
lake floor between them. Ten years ago, the bell was brought up, cleaned,
and is now in a memorial display at Whitefish Point. A replica bell was
cast from bronze, inscribed with the names of the captain and 28
crewmembers, and lowered to the ships deck. It is a permanent gravesight,
and will not be disturbed - by law - from henceforth.

Tony

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Back in the 1950's (that's back when wrestling was real) my old buddy
and I went to see a wrestling match at the old Coloseium on Pascagoula
Street in beautifull down town Jackson.y'all ever heard of Gorgeous
George before? That was the only wrestling match I ever went to
see.So-called wrestling nowdays is as phoney as phoney can be.
cuhulin

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Frank Dresser wrote:


"Listen up, you turkeynecks. One of the most memorable characters ever in
wrestling has died. Or more correctly, gone to the big beer hall in the sky
to start raising hell again with Dick the Bruiser. All praise The Crusher,
dead Saturday at age 79. "

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/...3/1275272.html


Right up there with Killer Kowalski and Sweet Daddy Siki




mike

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Mark Zenier wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Nice tune. But he's a Canuck.

So is Pamela Anderson.

That explains a lot.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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I was drifting off to sleep last night and there was a guest speaker guy
talking to George Noory about the Edmund Fitzgerald Ship and some other
Ships that sank on www.coasttocoastam.com The guy gave out this
website several times. www.edmundfitzgerald.com
cuhulin

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If you like the song, try Bernard Bolan's ``Not Many Fish'' which resembles it
musically

I have it up somewhere. mmm...

$ grep bolan mindspring* rhhardin*
mindspring:-rw-rw-r-- 1 ftp ftp 325273 Feb 19 2002 bolan.fish.ra

try http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/bolan.fish.ram

--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

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Bill Carter wrote:
But the Edmund Fitzgerald Ship is still down there in the
lake,isn't it?
Yes, it is.
dxAce Michigan

520 feet down, in two pieces with the taconite cargo
strewn on the
lake floor between them. Ten years ago, the bell was brought
up, cleaned,
and is now in a memorial display at Whitefish Point. A replica
bell was cast from bronze, inscribed with the names of the
captain and 28
crewmembers, and lowered to the ships deck. It is a permanent
gravesight, and will not be disturbed - by law - from
henceforth.

Tony
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Sub-Link that you currently have selected
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Mark Zenier wrote:
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Nice tune. But he's a Canuck.


So is Pamela Anderson.


So was the finest man I ever knew - my father.

Tony

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:43 -0500, Tony Meloche
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Mark Zenier wrote:
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Nice tune. But he's a Canuck.


So is Pamela Anderson.


So was the finest man I ever knew - my father.

Tony

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"clifto" wrote in message
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http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/...3/1275272.html

How sad! Thanks for letting me know.


At least The Crusher had a normal lifespan. He outlived several wrestlers
of the steroid generation.

Frank Dresser

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"clifto" wrote in message
...

Ahh, but The Trashmen would opt for The Rivingtons!

Whom, I note, were once known as The Sharps (no relation).


Good trivia point!

Frank Dresser

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Mark Zenier wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Nice tune. But he's a Canuck.

So is Pamela Anderson.

I note you didn't use the plural.

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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

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Frank Dresser wrote:
"clifto" wrote...
Ahh, but The Trashmen would opt for The Rivingtons!

Whom, I note, were once known as The Sharps (no relation).

Good trivia point!

It would've been even better had my newsreader followed the instructions
I thought I gave it and signed my message "Clifton T. Sharp".

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In article ,
clifto wrote:
Mark Zenier wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Nice tune. But he's a Canuck.

So is Pamela Anderson.

I note you didn't use the plural.

I suspect those parts of her were made in America.

Mark Zenier
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