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I just bought this and noticed all the Eaton and E1 ads. I counted 18 plus
the review. Gee talk about overkill. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm |
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Brian Hill wrote: I just bought this and noticed all the Eaton and E1 ads. I counted 18 plus the review. Gee talk about overkill. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm I noticed that last year too. That Eton continues to be the shortwave radio advertiser in PWBR says a lot about how this hobby has shrunk. It also makes me wonder how they can give an independent opinion about Eton products given that most of their ad revenue comes from Eton. |
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"John S." wrote in message oups.com... Brian Hill wrote: I just bought this and noticed all the Eaton and E1 ads. I counted 18 plus the review. Gee talk about overkill. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm I noticed that last year too. That Eton continues to be the shortwave radio advertiser in PWBR says a lot about how this hobby has shrunk. It also makes me wonder how they can give an independent opinion about Eton products given that most of their ad revenue comes from Eton. I agree. BH |
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:00:21 -0600, "Brian Hill"
wrote: I just bought this and noticed all the Eaton and E1 ads. I counted 18 plus the review. Gee talk about overkill. That means they'll be giving them away at the CES this January. Thanks for the heads-up. |
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Yes, that's a good question, isn't it? I know the Monitoring Times
reveiw of the E1, although it was postive, was nowhere near as positive as the one in Passport. |
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6. Eric F. Richards
Nov 20, 12:48 am show options Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave From: Eric F. Richards - Find messages by this author Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:48:31 -0700 Local: Sun, Nov 20 2005 12:48 am Subject: PassPort 2006 ? Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse Get a clue and *read* what "Passports Choice" means -- it means one of the reviewers bought one for their own use. Maybe the reviewer(s) like a throwaway radio every now and then, too? You know, the kind of radio you can afford to lose? Yeah whatever...Maybe you should buy some glasses and read what passport choice really means...Its there teams personal pick or as they put it "the la creme de la creme' of radios...The S350 is junk and at a cost of $100 its the biggest ripoff out there for a radio... |
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GP wrote: You know who is pulling the strings at PWBR when they give the S350 2 1/4 stars and a passports choice award...I mean who can take them seriously when they can rate a toy radio with a editors choice stamp of approval... I'm at a loss on that one too. But other than other S-350 radios there isn't much to compare it too. It's easy to be rated number one when there is only one radio mad in that class!!! |
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On 19 Nov 2005 17:16:45 -0800, "GP" wrote:
You know who is pulling the strings at PWBR when they give the S350 2 1/4 stars and a passports choice award...I mean who can take them seriously when they can rate a toy radio with a editors choice stamp of approval... I own the S350 DL (new improved version of the S350) and find it to be an excellent radio. I prefer it to my Sony 7600G, YB400 or my DX398. |
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"Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "John S." wrote in message oups.com... Brian Hill wrote: I just bought this and noticed all the Eaton and E1 ads. I counted 18 plus the review. Gee talk about overkill. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm I noticed that last year too. That Eton continues to be the shortwave radio advertiser in PWBR says a lot about how this hobby has shrunk. It also makes me wonder how they can give an independent opinion about Eton products given that most of their ad revenue comes from Eton. I agree. They had no problem ripping the S350 a new one for shortwave performance. About the only good thing they said about it was that it had good sound. --Mike L. |
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Michael Lawson wrote: "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "John S." wrote in message oups.com... Brian Hill wrote: I just bought this and noticed all the Eaton and E1 ads. I counted 18 plus the review. Gee talk about overkill. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm I noticed that last year too. That Eton continues to be the shortwave radio advertiser in PWBR says a lot about how this hobby has shrunk. It also makes me wonder how they can give an independent opinion about Eton products given that most of their ad revenue comes from Eton. I agree. They had no problem ripping the S350 a new one for shortwave performance. About the only good thing they said about it was that it had good sound. Designating the 350 Editors Choice isn't exactly comparable to having a new hole ripped in ones posterior. |
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In article .com,
"RHF" wrote: Telamon - No Matter Where You Look - There They Are ~ RHF You can just about fold the corner of all the ads to mark the sections of the book. I think they should consider just publishing the blue pages every quarter year to keep it current. I wonder if they have ever consider that? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote: In article .com, "RHF" wrote: Telamon - No Matter Where You Look - There They Are ~ RHF You can just about fold the corner of all the ads to mark the sections of the book. I think they should consider just publishing the blue pages every quarter year to keep it current. I wonder if they have ever consider that? Something similar to that was done in pre PWBR days. It was called Radio Database International, the predecessor to PWBR. That was 20 years or so ago. dxAce Michigan USA |
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In article .com,
"Joe Analssandrini" wrote: Years ago many shortwave radio companies and dealers advertised in Passport. Sadly, this is no longer the case and I really don't know why. Where is AOR's ad? Where are Sony's ads (yeah, right!)? Why doesn't Degen/Kaito advertise? It's also a shame that the distributors which do advertise (Universal being a notable exception) just run the "co-op" Eton ads. AOR is still selling the 7030+ in the USA (and elsewhere) so I'm surprised they don't have an ad in Passport. Maybe the Universal ads were enough exposure for them. I am glad that Eton sees fit to advertise in Passport but I too wish the ads were less repetitive (and more informative). At least those ads don't cause Passport to lose its focus; they don't give Eton radios "glowing" reviews where they don't deserve one. I have found, over the years, that Passport's reviews are fair, comprehensive, and ACCURATE. In my opinion the yearly Passport is worth every penny they charge. I also find the equipment reviews valuable. I think most people would be of the same opinion. Since they cover the spectrum of equipment people can read through that section and get a sense of what they want to buy and so attain a level of performance. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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Telamon wrote: In article .com, "Joe Analssandrini" wrote: Years ago many shortwave radio companies and dealers advertised in Passport. Sadly, this is no longer the case and I really don't know why. Where is AOR's ad? Where are Sony's ads (yeah, right!)? Why doesn't Degen/Kaito advertise? It's also a shame that the distributors which do advertise (Universal being a notable exception) just run the "co-op" Eton ads. AOR is still selling the 7030+ in the USA (and elsewhere) so I'm surprised they don't have an ad in Passport. Maybe the Universal ads were enough exposure for them. I am glad that Eton sees fit to advertise in Passport but I too wish the ads were less repetitive (and more informative). At least those ads don't cause Passport to lose its focus; they don't give Eton radios "glowing" reviews where they don't deserve one. I have found, over the years, that Passport's reviews are fair, comprehensive, and ACCURATE. In my opinion the yearly Passport is worth every penny they charge. I also find the equipment reviews valuable. I think most people would be of the same opinion. Since they cover the spectrum of equipment people can read through that section and get a sense of what they want to buy and so attain a level of performance. -- Telamon Ventura, California Over the years, I, too, have generally found PWBR's equipment reviews to be quite useful. I've made some fairly decent purchases based on the insight provided by Passport reviews. As for the Eton, the ad saturation in PWBR seems hardly surprising, given the degree to which this company shells out overall in advertising. It seems like I'm regularly coming across their full page ads in a variety of periodicals: Foreign Affairs, Smithsonian, Atlantic Monthly, etc. junius |
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On 22 Nov 2005 11:33:41 -0800, "junius" wrote:
Telamon wrote: In article .com, "Joe Analssandrini" wrote: Years ago many shortwave radio companies and dealers advertised in Passport. Sadly, this is no longer the case and I really don't know why. Where is AOR's ad? Where are Sony's ads (yeah, right!)? Why doesn't Degen/Kaito advertise? It's also a shame that the distributors which do advertise (Universal being a notable exception) just run the "co-op" Eton ads. AOR is still selling the 7030+ in the USA (and elsewhere) so I'm surprised they don't have an ad in Passport. Maybe the Universal ads were enough exposure for them. I am glad that Eton sees fit to advertise in Passport but I too wish the ads were less repetitive (and more informative). At least those ads don't cause Passport to lose its focus; they don't give Eton radios "glowing" reviews where they don't deserve one. I have found, over the years, that Passport's reviews are fair, comprehensive, and ACCURATE. In my opinion the yearly Passport is worth every penny they charge. I also find the equipment reviews valuable. I think most people would be of the same opinion. Since they cover the spectrum of equipment people can read through that section and get a sense of what they want to buy and so attain a level of performance. -- Telamon Ventura, California Over the years, I, too, have generally found PWBR's equipment reviews to be quite useful. I've made some fairly decent purchases based on the insight provided by Passport reviews. As for the Eton, the ad saturation in PWBR seems hardly surprising, given the degree to which this company shells out overall in advertising. It seems like I'm regularly coming across their full page ads in a variety of periodicals: Foreign Affairs, Smithsonian, Atlantic Monthly, etc. junius Saw an Eton ad in the Los Angeles Times yesterday. It showed their newest crank-up powered radio charging a cell phone & touted it's usefulness in an emergency. It was a full-page ad if that gives an indication of how much they are willing to spend on advertising. |
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I wonder if they'd consider spending 20% or so LESS on advertising and
putting the money saved into research to improve their portable radios. Why, after all these years, do NONE of their small portables feature a synchronous detection circuit and why do so many of their new models offer single conversion when, at similar or even lower prices, other manufacturers offer dual conversion? (In MY opinion, anyone who spends $150.00 on an ANALOG single conversion SW radio, no matter how "good" it supposedly sounds, is wasting money!) Just my thoughts. Joe |
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Joe Analssandrini wrote: I wonder if they'd consider spending 20% or so LESS on advertising and putting the money saved into research to improve their portable radios. Why, after all these years, do NONE of their small portables feature a synchronous detection circuit and why do so many of their new models offer single conversion when, at similar or even lower prices, other manufacturers offer dual conversion? (In MY opinion, anyone who spends $150.00 on an ANALOG single conversion SW radio, no matter how "good" it supposedly sounds, is wasting money!) Just my thoughts. Joe I have bought over the years, three Hallicrafters SX-62A's and one SX-62 each one cost a little over $150.00. Single conversion.....good receiver, great audio, has a decent fm section, what's not to like? YMMV Opinions are like rear ends, many of them stink! Les Locklear Gulfport, Ms. |
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Here is the actual, verbatim definition of "Passport's Choice" (from
the 2005 Passport to World Band Radio...I don't have the 2006 edition yet): "Passport's Choice. La creme de la creme. Our test team's personal picks of the litter...models we would buy or have bought for our personal use. Unlike star ratings, these choices are unapologetically subjective." Just means the radio is a personal favorite of the editors. Doesn't mean it's better than other radios in its class, or the best model out there. As far as the ads, they need them to pay for the publication (obviously). If Eton is the only company willing to pony up the cash, so be it. I've found that the reviews seem pretty even handed and fair. They really nitpick, IMO, and mention things that I think would bug very few people out there, in an effort to fully disclose everything about each model they review. So saying that they overrate Eton's radios is a little unfair, I think. |
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Dear Les,
Obviously you are a collector of that model. My comment was meant for those people who are buying a modern radio for daily use. Frankly, old tube "boat-anchors," well-designed in their day though they may have been, are not for most users today much as a 1959 Cadillac convertible, "fancy" and advanced as it was then (and, even now, unbeatable in a Fourth-of-July parade), would not be suitable for most drivers today. And today's single-conversion radios, analog OR digital, are a waste of money when you consider the price for good dual-conversion SW radios, some of which even feature dual bandwidths and SSB reception. You can select from a number of models selling for less than $100.00. I too have an old "boat-anchor," a Lafayette Model HE-10, its associated speaker the HE-11, and a pair of vintage crystal headphones. I trot this out a few times a year just for old times' sake. It's nice to see the tubes light up and to use the wonderful knobs with their gorgeous flywheel effect (something sadly lacking on today's receivers). But there's absolutely no way I would ever go back to a single-conversion receiver (with its images that even the best single-conversion receiver cannot eliminate) nor would I go back to any radio that does not have a synchronous detection circuit (and thus have to suffer with selective fading distortion). If I'm not incorrect, the Hallicrafters SX-62 models, like many radios of that time, cannot even receive SSB and, though they may (I'm not sure) feature a crystal calibrator, you still cannot tell exactly the frequency to which you're tuned. And, like all analog-tuned receivers, to a greater or lesser extent, they drift. While, for a collector such as yourself, these limitations won't be important, for most people today they most certainly would be. If one is spending $150.00, a Sony ICF-SW7600GR (which features a sync circuit) and a suitable antenna in absolute terms will run rings around the Hallicrafters, audio quality excepted. By the way, years ago, I always thought that Hallicrafters radios were really good ones, right up there with Hammarlund models (though, like everything else, "shy" of the Collinses). They were well-designed and very rugged. In their respective classes, they were also the best-looking SW radios on the market at that time. Best, Joe |
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"John S." wrote in message oups.com... Michael Lawson wrote: "Brian Hill" wrote in message ... "John S." wrote in message oups.com... Brian Hill wrote: I just bought this and noticed all the Eaton and E1 ads. I counted 18 plus the review. Gee talk about overkill. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm I noticed that last year too. That Eton continues to be the shortwave radio advertiser in PWBR says a lot about how this hobby has shrunk. It also makes me wonder how they can give an independent opinion about Eton products given that most of their ad revenue comes from Eton. I agree. They had no problem ripping the S350 a new one for shortwave performance. About the only good thing they said about it was that it had good sound. Designating the 350 Editors Choice isn't exactly comparable to having a new hole ripped in ones posterior. Where it counts, it did. The review admitted that the 350 got the editor's choice because it had the best audio south of a Sat 800, not because it was a single conversion powerhouse. In the shortwave reception department, the improvement from 2005 to 2006 was that it's a bit more stable, but it still has images and in the modern day and age, a $150 single conversion receiver is a bit cheap. Hell, my DX-440 is a double conversion receiver, and it ran for $199 (or $149 on sale) back in 1989, with (nowadays) older technology. The fact that in the guts of the receiver the only thing going for it are looks and sound does not bode well. You take away the sound, you take away the Editor's Choice designation. --Mike L. |
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