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David Eduardo November 28th 05 02:19 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:07:38 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"Bob Miller" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:28:59 GMT, David wrote:

On 26 Nov 2005 17:02:17 -0800, "OregonMike"
wrote:


Thanks for the reply David. At least I recognize the Icom and Yaesu
names :) I have many amateur rigs made by them.

I don't need an "entry level" receiver per se, but if one works well
then I'm game for getting one. I started SWL in 1983'ish with an old,
analog Radio Shack RCVR and listened since the late 80's with various
HF amateur radios. So, 1983 was the last time I had a SWL specific
radio! I'm stuck using my Yaesu FT-847 as my SWL RCVR and want
something that's portable (battery powered as well as DC in).

You probably would like the Eton (they own Grundig name in some
places). Well built.

I've been trying to figure out who Eton is. They're selling what used
to be called "Grundig" radios? Seen their ads; just don't know who
they are.


Chinese manufacturer, who made most of the Radio Shack SW receivers... and
bought the brand when Grundig failed.


From the Palo Alto part of China.


The parent company is Taiwanese.and they subcontract the manufacturing.




David November 28th 05 02:27 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:19:53 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:07:38 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:28:59 GMT, David wrote:

On 26 Nov 2005 17:02:17 -0800, "OregonMike"
wrote:


Thanks for the reply David. At least I recognize the Icom and Yaesu
names :) I have many amateur rigs made by them.

I don't need an "entry level" receiver per se, but if one works well
then I'm game for getting one. I started SWL in 1983'ish with an old,
analog Radio Shack RCVR and listened since the late 80's with various
HF amateur radios. So, 1983 was the last time I had a SWL specific
radio! I'm stuck using my Yaesu FT-847 as my SWL RCVR and want
something that's portable (battery powered as well as DC in).

You probably would like the Eton (they own Grundig name in some
places). Well built.

I've been trying to figure out who Eton is. They're selling what used
to be called "Grundig" radios? Seen their ads; just don't know who
they are.

Chinese manufacturer, who made most of the Radio Shack SW receivers... and
bought the brand when Grundig failed.


From the Palo Alto part of China.


The parent company is Taiwanese.and they subcontract the manufacturing.



Tha article says California-based. The CEO has a Middle Eastern name.

''"Eton is independent of Grundig Germany and is a licensee for
Grundig AG shortwave radios in the North American markets, as well as
certain markets outside of North America except EEC markets,"
explained a news release issued shortly after Grundig's April
bankruptcy by the Palo Alto, California-based radio firm.

"Eton, as an independent company, will continue to supply products and
fulfill all obligations to its customers as usual."

Eton won't just continue to sell Grundig-branded shortwave radios in
North America, but it will likely also remain the continent's dominant
player. Thanks to the business savvy of founder, president and CEO
Esmail Hozour, Eton has transformed North America into "the one region
in the world where Sony is not number one," said Larry Magne,
editor-in-chief of Passport to World Band Radio.

The company "has taken the market, and walked away with it. They own
North America, pure and simple," he said.''




David November 28th 05 02:30 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On 27 Nov 2005 17:36:46 -0800, wrote:

Well, NiCads are handy things to have around, and the 150 will charge
them. When I'm not using them in the 150 I use them in other things.
This is one of my favorite things about the 150, but oh well.

I've been on NiMHs for a long time. I drag my ATS-606A around. It
gets about 30 hours on 3 AAs. I want one of those new Kaito De-1105s
because it has the vertical form factor. If I'm walking around I
don't need all the bells and whistles. Just good filtering and AGC.


Bob Miller November 28th 05 03:46 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:27:41 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:19:53 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



The company "has taken the market, and walked away with it. They own
North America, pure and simple," he said.''



Eton sounds so veddy British.

bob
k5qwg


Brian Denley November 28th 05 04:02 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
Rob wrote:
I had a pair for 6 months but gave em to the kids to play with.

Was a big waste of $$$
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:
R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE


Yeah right. That's why it was the top rated receiver for so many
years. You own one?
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html


You gave a pair of $1200-1400 radios to the kids to play with, huh?

(typical troll)

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



Brian Denley November 28th 05 04:03 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
David wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:08:34 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:19:10 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"Rob" wrote in message
...
R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE

Yeah, it is essentially the gold standard for AM mode DX, whether
MW or SW.
There is nothing even close to it in this usage, even for several
time the price.


R-390A


Have owned both, and the R8 series is really superior.


Me too.

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html


The 390s have a great noise floor when properly tuned up. Other than that,
a modern PLL receiver has many more features.
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



m II November 28th 05 04:59 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:


When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?

Your Social Assistance cheque late again? That would explain the
temporary sobriety.


Social Assistance?

LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again!




OK, so it's called Welfare in your neighbourhood. Same handout for the
same unemployables. Will you be buying Victory Gin with it again?

I understand that makes the intoxicated user laugh uncontrollably at
everything they can't understand..but you already knew that from
firsthand experience.

Will you be telling your case worker about your insurance settlement?






mike

m II November 28th 05 05:07 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
Bob Miller wrote:

Eton sounds so veddy British.



How so? We all say 'The table's been Eton and the bed's been Slepton',
don't we?







mike

D Peter Maus November 28th 05 07:20 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:

LMAO...

You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.


LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.

When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?




Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.





dxAce
Michigan
USA



OregonMike November 28th 05 08:51 AM

Best 'portable' Shortwave Receiver ? Icom IC-75 Communications Receiver -or- Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio
 
Thanks for the wealth of information and links. It seems that the ETON
E1 would be more suiting to my daily usage than would the Icom model.
I'd like to be able to carry it with me to work, on holidays, to the
living room, or whatnot.


OM


OregonMike November 28th 05 09:23 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:40:01 -0600, wrote:

What's the best Antenna to buy?
cuhulin



I tend to build all my own HF antennas outside some purchased
multiband yagis.


OM


OregonMike November 28th 05 09:27 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On 26 Nov 2005 19:06:42 -0800, "junius" wrote:

Mr. Oregon might take a look at qth.net classifieds for used
Drake R8/R8A/R8B, if eventually opting for a tabletop model.



There's an idea! I haven't checked there yet.


OM


OregonMike November 28th 05 10:01 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On 27 Nov 2005 04:55:58 -0800, "John S." wrote:


OregonMike wrote:
I'm planning to buy a new rcvr and would love some input on the current
scene.
Things that pop into my mind that are a must are


(1) SSB/CW reception
(2) Freq. read out (LCD or whatever)
(3) External antenna support
(4) High sensitiviy and selectivity

I haven't looked at SWL RCVRs in some time and don't really know much
of what's best to get with the ones I'm seeing available to buy online.
I'm not even keen on where the best place to buy on is. Any help or
input would be great!

Thanks,

OM


In addition to the several new radios mentioned you should give
consideration to buying a used receiver such as a Kenwood R-5000, Icom
R71a or one of the Japan Radios. The Kenwood R-5000 is my personal
favorite, but any of the three will provide excellent reception and
have several features that wil help extracting a signal from difficult
listening conditions.

Good luck in the search and be sure to mention the receiver you finally
choose.



Thanks for the reply..

I would guess that an r-5000 may be tough to lug around easily like to
the office, living room, patio, and wherenot ...


OM


OregonMike November 28th 05 10:01 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On 27 Nov 2005 04:55:58 -0800, "John S." wrote:


OregonMike wrote:
I'm planning to buy a new rcvr and would love some input on the current
scene.
Things that pop into my mind that are a must are


(1) SSB/CW reception
(2) Freq. read out (LCD or whatever)
(3) External antenna support
(4) High sensitiviy and selectivity

I haven't looked at SWL RCVRs in some time and don't really know much
of what's best to get with the ones I'm seeing available to buy online.
I'm not even keen on where the best place to buy on is. Any help or
input would be great!

Thanks,

OM


In addition to the several new radios mentioned you should give
consideration to buying a used receiver such as a Kenwood R-5000, Icom
R71a or one of the Japan Radios. The Kenwood R-5000 is my personal
favorite, but any of the three will provide excellent reception and
have several features that wil help extracting a signal from difficult
listening conditions.

Good luck in the search and be sure to mention the receiver you finally
choose.


Thanks for the reply..

I would guess that an r-5000 may be tough to lug around easily like to
the office, living room, patio, and wherenot ...


OM


OregonMike November 28th 05 10:01 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:33:15 GMT, David wrote:

one more thing I forget to mention as a "must" is

(5) portability.

I'd like to be able to take this wherever while at the same time used
it at home connected to an outdoor antenna array.


OM

The Eton E1. You can add XM for space music for another $40 + a
recurring monthly.



QSL,

I'm looking at the Eton E1 on some sites. Is there a best vendor
online/walk-in to look towards for purchasing RCVRs. Universal Radio
is selling the E1 for $499.95 from what I can tell.


OM


dxAce November 28th 05 10:35 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 


D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:

LMAO...
You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.


LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.

When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?


Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.


OK, OK... M II is a stupid piece of Canuck debris.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce November 28th 05 10:40 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 


dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:

LMAO...
You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.

LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.

When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?


Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.


OK, OK... M II is a stupid piece of Canuck debris.


But that doesn't sound right either as Canuck and debris are one and the same.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] November 28th 05 11:26 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
Didn't they tell you these kids do everything much better? Yeah,
yikes...


[email protected] November 28th 05 11:28 AM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
Just love not having quotes...giving 1200 radios to his kids.


John S. November 28th 05 12:52 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 

OregonMike wrote:
On 27 Nov 2005 04:55:58 -0800, "John S." wrote:


OregonMike wrote:
I'm planning to buy a new rcvr and would love some input on the current
scene.
Things that pop into my mind that are a must are


(1) SSB/CW reception
(2) Freq. read out (LCD or whatever)
(3) External antenna support
(4) High sensitiviy and selectivity

I haven't looked at SWL RCVRs in some time and don't really know much
of what's best to get with the ones I'm seeing available to buy online.
I'm not even keen on where the best place to buy on is. Any help or
input would be great!

Thanks,

OM


In addition to the several new radios mentioned you should give
consideration to buying a used receiver such as a Kenwood R-5000, Icom
R71a or one of the Japan Radios. The Kenwood R-5000 is my personal
favorite, but any of the three will provide excellent reception and
have several features that wil help extracting a signal from difficult
listening conditions.

Good luck in the search and be sure to mention the receiver you finally
choose.


Thanks for the reply..

I would guess that an r-5000 may be tough to lug around easily like to
the office, living room, patio, and wherenot ...


OM


Wasn't aware of the portability issue. That said, the R-5000 runs
easily on 12 volts and a simple wire or an amplified whip antenna will
provide lots of signal.

To be honest, I would stay away from the high-priced receivers from
Eton/Grundig. Products from that company seem to have more than their
share of quality control problems so if you go with something from them
minimize your risk of loss by buying on the lower end.

Or, look at a Sony 7600 which is very portable, does ssb and voice very
well.


RHF November 28th 05 01:08 PM

Best 'portable' Shortwave Receiver ? Icom IC-75 Communications Receiver -or- Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio
 
Oregon Mike,

The one draw back of the Eton E1 Radio is that it
does not have a carrying Handle.

Suggest that 'if' you are going to be Carrying the
Eton E1 Radio around you get a Soft-Case built
for a Lap Top Computer.

IMHO - It is worth protecting your Investment in
this $500 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio.

something to think about - e1'ing you all ~ RHF
.. . .
..
. .
..
.. . . Out !


David November 28th 05 02:23 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:46:44 GMT, Bob Miller
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:27:41 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:19:53 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



The company "has taken the market, and walked away with it. They own
North America, pure and simple," he said.''



Eton sounds so veddy British.

bob
k5qwg

I think it's n-o-t-e backwards.


David November 28th 05 02:25 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:03:52 -0500, "Brian Denley"
wrote:

David wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:08:34 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:19:10 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"Rob" wrote in message
...
R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE

Yeah, it is essentially the gold standard for AM mode DX, whether
MW or SW.
There is nothing even close to it in this usage, even for several
time the price.


R-390A

Have owned both, and the R8 series is really superior.


Me too.

http://www.sherweng.com/table.html


The 390s have a great noise floor when properly tuned up. Other than that,
a modern PLL receiver has many more features.

The question was about AM mode. There's no bells and whistles on an
R8B that make it better than an R-390A for AM radio.


David November 28th 05 02:27 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:01:08 -0800, OregonMike
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:33:15 GMT, David wrote:

one more thing I forget to mention as a "must" is

(5) portability.

I'd like to be able to take this wherever while at the same time used
it at home connected to an outdoor antenna array.


OM

The Eton E1. You can add XM for space music for another $40 + a
recurring monthly.



QSL,

I'm looking at the Eton E1 on some sites. Is there a best vendor
online/walk-in to look towards for purchasing RCVRs. Universal Radio
is selling the E1 for $499.95 from what I can tell.


OM

You can walk into Universal. Ham Radio Outlet also carries them.


RHF November 28th 05 02:54 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
David Edurado,

Could you be thinking of Sangean Electronics of Taiwan.
SANGEAN = http://www.sangean.com/profile.html

Vice the Eton Corp. (formerly Lextronics)
Eton Corp. which now trades as Grunding North America. See
http://www.grundigradio.com/
www.www.etoncorp.com
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxld3066.txt
The Grundig name for Shortwave in the USA is
licenced by Eton Corporation in Palo Alto, CA.

Who is "Eton" (Corp.) and where did they come from ?
Report from Dr. Kim Andrew Elliott of the Voice of America
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxld3068.txt
"Esmail Hozour, president of Eton, told me that the Grundig shortwave
radios are developed by Eton and its partners "99 percent
independently" of Grundig in Germany."
Source - Radio Netherlands Media Network 16 April 2003
http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/html/medianews.html
via Glenn Hauser and World of Radio 1178, DXLD)
http://www.rwonline.com/reference-ro...rundig_2.shtml


Esmail Amid-Hozour, Eton Corporation, Palo Alto, USA
Just met Dr Esmail Hozour again after many years. He used to run
Grundig North America. He is now CEO of Eton Corporation (Eton is Greek
for solid) and bringing out a whole series of new radios, many made in
Bangalore, India. It is the first time I have seen this type of quality
out of India. Eton believe in DAB as well as XM and Sirius, but are
taking a wait and see approach to DRM technology.

Amid-Hozour, Esmail (ETON/CEO), (Zip code: 94026) $1250
to IRANIAN AMERICAN POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE INC
on 07/04/04
http://www.city-data.com/elec/elec-MENLO-PARK-CA.html
http://herndon2.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/dc...3/90412/sa/17A
http://www.iranianamericanpac.org/ne...7y6NlW7o1N4J2R
http://www.stanford.edu/group/psa/ev...stSpeakers.htm
Father - Amir Amid Hozour - 1930-2000
http://www.amiramidhozour.net/biography.htm

as always more than you wanted to know ~ RHF

junius November 28th 05 02:56 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 

John S. wrote:
To be honest, I would stay away from the high-priced receivers from
Eton/Grundig. Products from that company seem to have more than their
share of quality control problems so if you go with something from them
minimize your risk of loss by buying on the lower end.



Very much an issue with the Satellit 800, which was put together by the
Tecsun folks in China; but I hadn't heard of quality control issues
with the E1, which is put together by your friends at Bharat
Electronics, an Indian manufacturer of defense and civil communications
products. The E1 has been out on the market for a number of months
now... have there been quality control issues to emerge?

This was one reason why I have opted to wait it out a bit before
purchasing an E1: to see if a shakedown was in order. Kept my fingers
crossed that this wouldn't be another Satellit 800, in that regard.
But from all indicators I've seen thus far, the E1 seems consistently
solid in build quality (thankfully).


D Peter Maus November 28th 05 03:37 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
m II wrote:

dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:

LMAO...
You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.
LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.

When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?
Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.

OK, OK... M II is a stupid piece of Canuck debris.


But that doesn't sound right either as Canuck and debris are one and the same.




Hmmm....Ok....then how about we just send back Shatner. That'll teach
'em.





dxAce
Michigan
USA



Rob November 28th 05 04:44 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
My 14 and 16 year old son's listen to the local High School radio station on
them....Sorry if you cant understand that but at least someone gets some use
out of them??

Are you really a "Typical Troll" Brian?


"Brian Denley" wrote in message
. ..
Rob wrote:
I had a pair for 6 months but gave em to the kids to play with.

Was a big waste of $$$
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
Rob wrote:
R8B is a big dissapointment too....as with anything made by DRAKE


Yeah right. That's why it was the top rated receiver for so many
years. You own one?
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html


You gave a pair of $1200-1400 radios to the kids to play with, huh?

(typical troll)

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html





dxAce November 28th 05 05:09 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 


D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
m II wrote:

dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:

LMAO...
You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.
LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.

When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?
Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.
OK, OK... M II is a stupid piece of Canuck debris.


But that doesn't sound right either as Canuck and debris are one and the same.


Hmmm....Ok....then how about we just send back Shatner. That'll teach
'em.


Good idea.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] November 28th 05 05:11 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
Or Glenn Ford or Guy Lombardo and his Royal Canadians or Marty McFly.
cuhulin


clifto November 28th 05 06:31 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 
dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
m II wrote:

dxAce (The Star Spangled Boner) wrote:

LMAO...
You've laughed it off so many times that it must be getting pretty worn
out from hitting the floor..unless of course you ARE still on the floor
because of another bout of binge drinking.
LMAO at the dumbass Canuck yet again.

When will you ever learn, you stupid piece of human debris?
Now, come on, Steve....that's wholly unfair to human debris.
OK, OK... M II is a stupid piece of Canuck debris.

But that doesn't sound right either as Canuck and debris are one and the same.


Hmmm....Ok....then how about we just send back Shatner. That'll teach
'em.


Good idea.


I say send back Celine Dion.

--
If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

John S. November 28th 05 07:17 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 

junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
To be honest, I would stay away from the high-priced receivers from
Eton/Grundig. Products from that company seem to have more than their
share of quality control problems so if you go with something from them
minimize your risk of loss by buying on the lower end.



Very much an issue with the Satellit 800, which was put together by the
Tecsun folks in China; but I hadn't heard of quality control issues
with the E1, which is put together by your friends at Bharat
Electronics, an Indian manufacturer of defense and civil communications
products. The E1 has been out on the market for a number of months
now... have there been quality control issues to emerge?

This was one reason why I have opted to wait it out a bit before
purchasing an E1: to see if a shakedown was in order. Kept my fingers
crossed that this wouldn't be another Satellit 800, in that regard.
But from all indicators I've seen thus far, the E1 seems consistently
solid in build quality (thankfully).


The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.
The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
quality components is really the issue. Their track record of
haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers. Maybe
things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
point.

The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
in the 800 project.


junius November 28th 05 08:05 PM

Best SWL RCVR to buy?
 

John S. wrote:
The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.


Indeed, geography as such isn't an issue. The fact that the product is
being put together by a manufacturer other than Tecsun-Degen could well
be.

The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
quality components is really the issue.


Shifting operations to Bharat Electronics Ltd could well be a part of
an Eton/Grundig insistence on a higher level of quality control where
this model is concerned.

Their track record of
haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers.


Thus far, their track record with quality control in this unit seems to
be a break from the ineptitude with the Satellite 800. Admitedly, the
delays on the release of the E1, on the other hand, were annoying and
certainly gave reason for pause.

Maybe
things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
point.


Admittedly, the degree of risk aversion varies from consumer to
consumer, so I can understand if someone in the market for a premium
portable decided to wait it out a bit longer on this one. I've done so
myself, despite the fact that I was quite impressed by the sample I
borrowed from a friend.

The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
in the 800 project.


Maybe the Tecsun-Degen group are capable of putting together a decent
under $100 throwaway...I don't really know. Given their track record
in partnership with Eton/Grundig, I'd be extremely cautious with regard
to any premium set that they might put out.

Junius


John S. November 28th 05 08:33 PM

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junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
The geographic location of the manufacturing facility is not the issue.


Indeed, geography as such isn't an issue. The fact that the product is
being put together by a manufacturer other than Tecsun-Degen could well
be.

The willingness of a marketing and distribution operation like
Eton/Grundig to pay for and insist on strict quality control and good
quality components is really the issue.


Shifting operations to Bharat Electronics Ltd could well be a part of
an Eton/Grundig insistence on a higher level of quality control where
this model is concerned.

Their track record of
haphazard delivery schedules and poor quality in prior products does
not give me much assurance with this latest round of receivers.


Thus far, their track record with quality control in this unit seems to
be a break from the ineptitude with the Satellite 800. Admitedly, the
delays on the release of the E1, on the other hand, were annoying and
certainly gave reason for pause.

Maybe
things have changed, but I would not gamble that much money at this
point.


Admittedly, the degree of risk aversion varies from consumer to
consumer, so I can understand if someone in the market for a premium
portable decided to wait it out a bit longer on this one. I've done so
myself, despite the fact that I was quite impressed by the sample I
borrowed from a friend.

The Tecsun-Degen group are capable of producing good quality radios,
but quality costs money that Eton apparently was not willing to invest
in the 800 project.


Maybe the Tecsun-Degen group are capable of putting together a decent
under $100 throwaway...I don't really know. Given their track record
in partnership with Eton/Grundig, I'd be extremely cautious with regard
to any premium set that they might put out.


I've got a $60.00 Degen DE1103 that has had no QC problems - it works
every time. Indeed it is finshed well and the parts fit tightly. At
half the price of a Sony it is a steal. The memory system has some
limitations inherent with the design, but it works.

OTOH I have an Eton hand crank generator radio that feels downright
flimsy considering it sells for $40.00 Whether it is of Chinese or
Indian origin isn't as important as the wobbly grindy crank generator
which feels like it could come apart at the wrong time.


Junius



RHF November 28th 05 09:01 PM

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Junius - Yes China Inc. and the PLA ~ RHF

DeWayne November 28th 05 10:54 PM

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wrote in message
...
Or Glenn Ford or Guy Lombardo and his Royal Canadians or Marty McFly.
cuhulin


HEY, I liked Glenn Ford!



David Eduardo November 29th 05 03:26 AM

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"David" wrote in message
...
The question was about AM mode. There's no bells and whistles on an
R8B that make it better than an R-390A for AM radio.

It just gets more stations.



Brian Denley November 29th 05 04:47 AM

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Rob wrote:
My 14 and 16 year old son's listen to the local High School radio
station on them....Sorry if you cant understand that but at least
someone gets some use out of them??

Are you really a "Typical Troll" Brian?



Stupid post - doesn't deserve a reply. No credibility whatsoever.
--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



OregonMike November 29th 05 08:25 AM

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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:27:41 GMT, David wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:01:08 -0800, OregonMike
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:33:15 GMT, David wrote:

one more thing I forget to mention as a "must" is

(5) portability.

I'd like to be able to take this wherever while at the same time used
it at home connected to an outdoor antenna array.


OM

The Eton E1. You can add XM for space music for another $40 + a
recurring monthly.



QSL,

I'm looking at the Eton E1 on some sites. Is there a best vendor
online/walk-in to look towards for purchasing RCVRs. Universal Radio
is selling the E1 for $499.95 from what I can tell.


OM

You can walk into Universal. Ham Radio Outlet also carries them.



I've been to the HRO in Tigard, OR many times and have bought most my
rigs from there.


Tks,

OM


David November 29th 05 03:21 PM

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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:26:14 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
The question was about AM mode. There's no bells and whistles on an
R8B that make it better than an R-390A for AM radio.

It just gets more stations.


No. It doesn't. The R390A is quieter.



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