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"€ Dr. Artaud €" wrote in message
. ..
"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in
:

Are people unjustly killed by "democratic" societies any less dead than
those killed by communist societies?
Is it OK to kill 50,000 Iraqi civilians since a group of Saudis allegedly
commandeered 4 planes, and killed 3000 innocent Americans, in a plan
orchestrated by a man in Afghanistan? Does this not seem convoluted to
you?

You are a deluded individual who is easilly swayed by propagandic conspiracy
theories.
An clear sign of a weak mind with little to no respect for logic, morals and
ethics.

It is fruitless to continue any further discussion with you until you have
the humbling
oportunity to live under the likes of Mao, Saddam, Stalin or Hitler to name
just a few.
I hope that someday every single Liberal Neo-Kommie has that opportunity.

It is sad and highly unfortunate that those that have experienced such evil
are either
in a Communist gulag or have passed away from old age. It seems modern
humanity
doesn't learn from history and easily succumbs to propaganda by those that
wish to rewrite history.
Communist propaganda is alive and well and most effective on the internet.

Enjoy your Dreamland "Doctor" Artaud.

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From: "SeeingEyeDog"
Organization: Eat Conscience, **** Ideology
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 11:59:05 -0600
Subject: Coalition cutting & running



"€ Dr. Artaud €" wrote in message
. ..
"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in
:

Are people unjustly killed by "democratic" societies any less dead than
those killed by communist societies?
Is it OK to kill 50,000 Iraqi civilians since a group of Saudis allegedly
commandeered 4 planes, and killed 3000 innocent Americans, in a plan
orchestrated by a man in Afghanistan? Does this not seem convoluted to
you?

You are a deluded individual who is easilly swayed by propagandic conspiracy
theories.

Which conspiracy is he swayed by?

An clear sign of a weak mind with little to no respect for logic, morals and
ethics.

Sorry, but that's not logical or ethical. And, arguably, it's not even
moral.

It is fruitless to continue any further discussion

(rant)

with you until you have the humbling
oportunity to live under the likes of Mao, Saddam, Stalin or Hitler to name
just a few.
I hope that someday every single Liberal Neo-Kommie has that opportunity.

Hmmm.
It is sad and highly unfortunate that those that have experienced such evil
are either
in a Communist gulag or have passed away from old age. It seems modern
humanity
doesn't learn from history and easily succumbs to propaganda by those that
wish to rewrite history.

See "Propaganda, Bush administration: Newspaper columnists on government
payroll; government-produced 'news reports' disseminated as independent
work; 'independent Iraqi newspapers' being paid by the U.S. to run
government-produced propaganda."

Communist propaganda is alive and well and most effective on the internet.

Dissent is not communism. The communists never tolerated dissent. Neither
did the fascists.
Enjoy your Dreamland "Doctor" Artaud.

Go back to sleep dawg. You have nothing to offer but intolerance and
sophomoric name-calling.

Greg
My real name.

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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 11:59:05 -0600, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote:


Communist propaganda is alive and well and most effective on the internet.

As long as fascist *******s like you have computers, the
insane righties will be well-represented as well.


Enjoy your Dreamland "Doctor" Artaud.


Enjoy your wet dreams of world domination.

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propagandised

Communist propaganda is alive and well and most effective on the
internet.

As long as fascist *******s like you have computers, the
insane righties will be well-represented as well.


Enjoy your wet dreams of world domination.

Soon you will be enjoying the domination by Communist China.
Enjoy your little world of internet fantasy.

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It is fruitless to continue any further discussion with you until you have
the humbling opportunity to live under the likes of Mao, Saddam, Stalin or
Hitler to name just a few. I hope that someday every single Liberal
Neo-Kommie has that opportunity.

It is sad and highly unfortunate that those that have experienced such evil
are either in a Communist gulag or have passed away from old age. It seems
modern humanity doesn't learn from history and easily succumbs to propaganda
by those that
wish to rewrite history. They are doomed to repeat it!

Communist propaganda is alive and well and most effective on the internet.

Enjoy your fantasy "Greg", your "real name".


"Greg" wrote in message
...


From: "SeeingEyeDog"
Organization: Eat Conscience, **** Ideology
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 11:59:05 -0600
Subject: Coalition cutting & running



"€ Dr. Artaud €" wrote in message
. ..
"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in
:

Are people unjustly killed by "democratic" societies any less dead than
those killed by communist societies?
Is it OK to kill 50,000 Iraqi civilians since a group of Saudis
allegedly
commandeered 4 planes, and killed 3000 innocent Americans, in a plan
orchestrated by a man in Afghanistan? Does this not seem convoluted to
you?

You are a deluded individual who is easilly swayed by propagandic
conspiracy
theories.

Which conspiracy is he swayed by?

An clear sign of a weak mind with little to no respect for logic, morals
and
ethics.

Sorry, but that's not logical or ethical. And, arguably, it's not even
moral.

It is fruitless to continue any further discussion

(rant)

with you until you have the humbling
oportunity to live under the likes of Mao, Saddam, Stalin or Hitler to
name
just a few.
I hope that someday every single Liberal Neo-Kommie has that
opportunity.

Hmmm.
It is sad and highly unfortunate that those that have experienced such
evil
are either
in a Communist gulag or have passed away from old age. It seems modern
humanity
doesn't learn from history and easily succumbs to propaganda by those
that
wish to rewrite history.

See "Propaganda, Bush administration: Newspaper columnists on government
payroll; government-produced 'news reports' disseminated as independent
work; 'independent Iraqi newspapers' being paid by the U.S. to run
government-produced propaganda."

Communist propaganda is alive and well and most effective on the
internet.

Dissent is not communism. The communists never tolerated dissent.
Neither
did the fascists.
Enjoy your Dreamland "Doctor" Artaud.

Go back to sleep dawg. You have nothing to offer but intolerance and
sophomoric name-calling.

Greg
My real name.

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From: "SeeingEyeDog"
Organization: Eat Conscience, **** Ideology
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:45:14 -0600
Subject: Coalition cutting & running

It is fruitless to continue any further discussion with you until you have
the humbling opportunity to live under the likes of Mao, Saddam, Stalin or
Hitler to name just a few. I hope that someday every single Liberal
Neo-Kommie has that opportunity.

Is there an echo in here?

It is sad and highly unfortunate that those that have experienced such evil
are either in a Communist gulag or have passed away from old age. It seems
modern humanity doesn't learn from history and easily succumbs to propaganda
by those that
wish to rewrite history. They are doomed to repeat it!

It's deja vu. I could swear I read this same thing before.

Communist propaganda is alive and well and most effective on the internet.

Enjoy your fantasy "Greg", your "real name".

....and let the sleeping dog lie! And it's just plain Greg, not "Greg".

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Mannnn,isn't that the truth!
cuhulin

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"clifto" wrote in message
...
Frank Dresser wrote:
"clifto" wrote...
Yeah, especially high-ranking Republicans like Joe Kennedy.

Whatever influence Joe Kennedy had in the Roosevelt administration ended
when Roosevelt fired him for insubordination.

1. Kennedy resigned. At that time Roosevelt asked him to continue as
ambassador.

Keeping Joe Kennedy in London minimized the impact Kennedy might have had on
the election of 1940.

Kennedy had to nag Roosevelt to be relieved of duty.

Roosevelt ordered Kennedy to Washington DC after he figured he had the
election in the bag. Roosevelt verbally reamed his ambassador and allowed
him to "resign".


2. Kennedy lost little influence at that time; he was well connected
with Congress and influential members of society.

My point concerned Kennedy's influence in the Roosevelt administration.


Had the Boston Republican brahmins been more hospitible to Irish
Catholics,
the Kennedys might have been as Republican as the Rockefellers. Joe
Kennedy
did ended up liking Joe McCarthy much better than he liked Roosevelt.

I never did figure that one out. Bobby Kennedy worked for McCarthy, too.
Then again, I never got the feeling of extreme liberalism out of John F.
and Bobby as I have from the rest of that family.

He was
making too much money doing business with Hitler.

OK, you've got me there. I've heard about Kennedy's sleazy financial
deals
and mob connections, but I missed Kennedy's business ties with Hitler.
Please fill me in.

Okay, he wasn't doing business *directly* with Hitler, he was doing
business with the Nazi govermnent. That's well documented, and almost
any decent history book will regale you with the tale.

Hmmm. Any web links? A quick check just brings up a bunch of Sherman
Skolnick stuff and the usual allegations about John D. Rockefeller and Presc
ott Bush.



On the contrary, I'm pretty sure by this time Roosevelt had the WPA and
other stuff going and was well on the road to the free-money-for-the-
indolent economy.

Roosevelt was an anglophile and became a strong freind of Winston
Churchill
well before the Pearl Harbor attack. He was way ahead of the American
public in wanting to give direct aid to the British. His opposition
came
from those who wanted to keep American money and weapons in America.

I don't see any contradiction in being a welfare statist and wanting to
get
America involved with the war.

It's very simple. Dollars spent on military aren't buying you votes
from the indolent. That's why the percentage of GNP spent on military
stuff has consistently decreased since WWII, while the %GNP spent on
welfare has consistently risen.

Franklin Roosevelt was calling for a military buildup before the Nazis
invaded Poland. The US was demilitarized under the rugged individualist
Republican administrations between the World Wars.


Would that press also include such prominent isolationists as Col.
Robert
McCormack of the Chicago Tribune?

AAMOF, once Pearl Harbor was a fact, he pretty much went with the flow.
I don't suppose he'd have had much choice; people back then would
boycott a product for antisocial behavior.

Both the Pearl Harbor attack and Hitler's declaration of war against the
US
ended the isolationist movement. The isolationists weren't pacifists,
but
they weren't interested in war with nations which weren't declared
enemies
of the US.

On the contrary, probably more than half the isolationists of the period
would have fit right in with the hippie antiwar movement thirty years
later. Ask an old person (while you can!).

Oh, I'm sure the non interventionists were a mixed bag, just like the
hippies. Some were marxists, some were Jeffersonian types, some were
pacifists, some were facists, some were anti-semites. I expect there were
more prohibitionists among the noninterventionists and more free love
advocates among the hippies. Given the best known advocates of
isolationism, such as Col. Robert McCormack, Father Coughlin, Charles
Lindbergh and many Republicans, I picture the bulk of them as conservative.



Many US liberals of the era were admirers of the Soviet Union and ended
their neutrality earlier when the Nazis broke the Hitler-Stalin pact.

Liberals have always admired the Soviet Union. They're still trying to
establish such a government right here in the USA.

So what is liberalism, anyway? If trying to establish a communist police
state in the US is a defining characteristic of liberalism, there just ain't
enough liberals around to bother with.

Frank Dresser

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"clifto" wrote in message
...


http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/psf/box37/a340gg02.html tells a
different story, and it's straight from the horse's mouth.

Huh. I thought Kennedy first offered to resign in October. He did come to
the US in October, but he says his first attempt at resignation was
November. I checked my copy of "A Man Called Intrepid" and it confirms my
memory that the Brits were relaying their spying on Kennedy to Roosevelt.
Roosevelt was not only hearing about his chief appeaser, but also Kennedy's
big political talk such as his statement that he could swing the entire
Irish Catholic vote to Wilkie. However, I never really trust these spy
books. Still, it seems credible, given the rest of Kennedy's activities.

I don't remember where I heard that one of the benefits of letting Joe
Kennedy take the ambassadorship to England is that it would give Roosevelt a
clear field in Democratic politics. Again, it seems credible, but I can't
back it up.



I learned it long ago from dead-trees editions. Can't find anything on
the web in the few minutes I have, but I found this interesting even
if it's not an answer:

http://hnn.us/articles/697.html
"The Nazi ambassador subsequently told his bosses that Kennedy was
"Germany's best friend" in London."

Yep. I wouldn't be suprised if Kennedy was doing business with the Nazis,
but I'd be curious to know if he was making more money in importing scotch
and gin from England.

It is curious that Kennedy is quoted in a letter to Charles Lindberg
bemoaning Kennedy's fear that bad PR events such as Kristalnacht might
derail the efforts to save western civilization. It's unclear from the
letter whether Kennedy had a closer connection to the Nazis than Charles
Lindberg. Had Kennedy had a closer connection, I'm sure he'd have advised
the Nazis to be more diplomatic.



The general consensus was that they'd just finished the War To End All
Wars. No one could have justified much in the way of military spending
under the circumstances.

Yeah, there really wasn't much debating it in the post WW1 world.



Whoever it was, the only thing that stands out as certain is that the
anti-war movement was beyond logical thought, i.e. they wanted to avoid
war no matter what the cost.

The Nazi sympathizers would have had no logical reason to go to war with the
Nazis. The Fortress America types would have tried to substitue a cold war
for a hot war. Appeasment is a logical solution in a hopeless situation.
However, the appeasers underestimated their countrymen and overestimated
their enemy.


Liberalism is a religion. Its god is power, its pope is the President.
They work hard to force the world to live by their religion and no
other, for only their god can control the proletariat. Having a Pope
of the wrong faith is an extreme apostasy, and such a travesty makes
them hate the Pope for pretending to be of the One True Faith and
trying to commune with the Power God.


Cool. I think I'll be a liberal next Halloween.

Trick or Treat!

Frank Dresser