junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
You have just described hundreds of thousands of Ebay deals... Every
sellers dream is to sell their goods for more than they paid.

Sure, that's a given. If you've read through the messages on this guy,
you'll see that the function of this sort of thread is to alert folks
to the fact that this guy is presumably an habitual liar regarding the
quality/condition of the products he sells. While other sellers might
do the same thing, there has been an established pattern noted by some
with regard to this specific seller. By alerting the rest of us to
this, the thread is serving to potentially improve knowledge on the
buyers' side. Other threads have highlighted instances of alleged
shill bidding on this guys part, even noting, for instance, that one of
his profiles had once left feedback on the other.

I've been on this forum long anough to recognize that small core of
individuals who when this topic comes up all pile on with the same
litany of complaints and responses over and over. If this guy was
really that bad his rating would be so low that Ebay would drop him.



Ebay can't police the quality of goods sold...that's up to the buyer
and seller to figure out. Ebay is first and foremost a broker. If
something is illegal, violates property rights, is dangerous or is on a
list of banned goods then they sometimes jump in.

It's quite true that eBay can't police the quality of goods sold on
their site, that's why a thread like this serves to alleviate problems
of imperfect knowledge on the buyers' side. Since this guy allegedly
has an established way of doing business (i.e. buying mediocre goods
and then selling them as "as new" or "excellent condition"), Mike is
actually doing us a service by alerting us to the seller's practices.

There are so many sellers of radios on Ebay that throw descriptives
like Mint, Minty, New Old Stock, Clean, Works Perfectly, etc., into
auctions that anyone with half an ounce of sense just completely
ignores them and asks specifics about condition. Information on Ebay
has to be treated as though it is coming from a used car dealer.



Ebay is full of people selling worn out rusty stuff...it's up to the
seller to ask the right questions before sending in his money. Caveat
emptor is the first rule of doing business on Ebay!!

Exactly, that's why it's useful to have threads like this in order to
alert potential buyers (at least those shortwave enthusiasts who
frequent this board regularly or occasionally) when a seller is
habitually overstating the quality of merchandise and/or possibly
manipulating the bidding (by utilizing private bidding and then
employing an alternate account to possibly drive up the price at which
an item sells).

I have yet to come across a seller that underdescribes his radios, and
in my experience there are very few that list the warts and wrinkles
completely. As with used car dealers, Ebay sellers are in the business
of selling.

Do you or others have recent examples of this guy using shill bidders
to inflate the auction price?

Even if the guy is using shills that is no excuse for a potential buyer
not knowing his maximum price.




This and previous threads are beginning to sound more like whining from
a bunch of disgruntled sellers who can't compete with a high volume
dealer.

I don't see that folks are whining about not being able to compete with
this guy. It's more a case of folks noting his practices and warning
others that they might think twice or thrice before bidding on one of
his items. And that's fair enough, huh?

Given that it is essentially the same group of people climbing on the
bandwagon each time I have to think there is another agenda.



Junius

In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
You have just described hundreds of thousands of Ebay deals...
Every sellers dream is to sell their goods for more than they
paid.

Sure, that's a given. If you've read through the messages on this
guy, you'll see that the function of this sort of thread is to
alert folks to the fact that this guy is presumably an habitual
liar regarding the quality/condition of the products he sells.
While other sellers might do the same thing, there has been an
established pattern noted by some with regard to this specific
seller. By alerting the rest of us to this, the thread is serving
to potentially improve knowledge on the buyers' side. Other
threads have highlighted instances of alleged shill bidding on this
guys part, even noting, for instance, that one of his profiles had
once left feedback on the other.

I've been on this forum long anough to recognize that small core of
individuals who when this topic comes up all pile on with the same
litany of complaints and responses over and over. If this guy was
really that bad his rating would be so low that Ebay would drop him.

Snip

This thread started out with a warning about a specific auction not
vague or wide ranging complaints against this guy.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
You have just described hundreds of thousands of Ebay deals...
Every sellers dream is to sell their goods for more than they
paid.

Sure, that's a given. If you've read through the messages on this
guy, you'll see that the function of this sort of thread is to
alert folks to the fact that this guy is presumably an habitual
liar regarding the quality/condition of the products he sells.
While other sellers might do the same thing, there has been an
established pattern noted by some with regard to this specific
seller. By alerting the rest of us to this, the thread is serving
to potentially improve knowledge on the buyers' side. Other
threads have highlighted instances of alleged shill bidding on this
guys part, even noting, for instance, that one of his profiles had
once left feedback on the other.

I've been on this forum long anough to recognize that small core of
individuals who when this topic comes up all pile on with the same
litany of complaints and responses over and over. If this guy was
really that bad his rating would be so low that Ebay would drop him.

Snip

This thread started out with a warning about a specific auction not
vague or wide ranging complaints against this guy.

--

Copied this directly from the first post: ...and this is not the first
time
he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two weeks

later as radio-mart
the auctions in question a 5837723543 and 5833316809
judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever
believe
anything he says in his auctions.

In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article .com,
"John S." wrote:

junius wrote:
John S. wrote:
You have just described hundreds of thousands of Ebay deals...
Every sellers dream is to sell their goods for more than they
paid.

Sure, that's a given. If you've read through the messages on this
guy, you'll see that the function of this sort of thread is to
alert folks to the fact that this guy is presumably an habitual
liar regarding the quality/condition of the products he sells.
While other sellers might do the same thing, there has been an
established pattern noted by some with regard to this specific
seller. By alerting the rest of us to this, the thread is serving
to potentially improve knowledge on the buyers' side. Other
threads have highlighted instances of alleged shill bidding on this
guys part, even noting, for instance, that one of his profiles had
once left feedback on the other.

I've been on this forum long anough to recognize that small core of
individuals who when this topic comes up all pile on with the same
litany of complaints and responses over and over. If this guy was
really that bad his rating would be so low that Ebay would drop him.

Snip

This thread started out with a warning about a specific auction not
vague or wide ranging complaints against this guy.

--

Copied this directly from the first post: ...and this is not the
first time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold
it two weeks

later as radio-mart the auctions in question a 5837723543 and
5833316809 judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you
can ever believe anything he says in his auctions.

Yes, this is a specific example or experience dealing with this
individual not a vague complaint. Specific examples or experiences can
be learned from unlike vague or wide ranging complaints. Here is the
rest of the post:

In article ,
"mike maghakian" wrote:

a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver.
the buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn
Allison. today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700,
including the CD I made and included. he made up a story that was not
true that he had sold this receiver in working condition and it was
returned broken. Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and
this is not the first time he bought something from me under
gottahaveit1995 and sold it two weeks later as radio-mart the
auctions in question a 5837723543 and 5833316809 judge for
yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe
anything he says in his auctions.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California