I guess the old way of attaching a wire to the screw that holds the face
plate of the electric outlet won't be any good then. I could have swore my
father years ago used that for grounding.
"David" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:44:30 GMT, "Steve Rabinowitz"
wrote:

Is there any where in the house or must I attch to a metal stake in the
ground. Would rather not run the wire outside,
"David" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:02:01 GMT, "Steve Rabinowitz"
wrote:

Will be using a long wire strung around inside of the house for now when
I
get my tabletop. Where the radio will be there are no pipes etc, what is
the
best way to ground, can I use the center screw of the electric outlet.
Been
using protables now & a set top with a whip built in antenna (RS394).


Only if your mains wiring is in metallic pipe or raceways. Otherwise
I'd run a discrete wire.



A fuse or breaker box that is ''served'' by metal conduit or raceway,
or a metal (for sure) cold water pipe that has metallic continuity
(for sure) into the ground.

Protecting the antenna means providing lightning with an
alternative path to earth. Your building does that just fine.
But be better advised to earth using a lightning rod located
above the roof.

Safety ground system and earthing system share many
components. Different systems for different purposes with
some common parts. AC wall receptacle is not an earth
ground. An antenna is earthed so that lightning will not take
a more destructive path via the receiver. Ac receptacle
ground means lightning would spread out inside the building to
damage other electronics.

Connect things to the wall receptacle grounded screw to
protect human life. This is not same as earthing lightning.
To earth lightning, install Ben Franklin's well proven
solution above the roof. Earth incoming transients on utility
wires using either 'whole house' protector or a ground block -
all connected to a common earth ground that remains outside
the building.

Steve Rabinowitz wrote:
I guess the old way of attaching a wire to the screw that holds
the face plate of the electric outlet won't be any good then. I
could have swore my father years ago used that for grounding.

I'm with Tom...

One should NEVER use the metal screw or electrical conduit for an earth
ground. Not only is this contrary to the NEC code but it allows ground loop
currents to exist along the single ground path due to inconsistent bonding
between conduit, flanges, flange screws and...eventually...the ground rod.
Lightning will follow the path of least resistance. You will often see a
coil (even a single turn) of taped of professional communications atenna
systems at the point of entry into the building. This is to provide, however
slight, a small impedance to discourage lightning current from taking THAT
path and, instead chosing a separate direct ground path.
Do this little experiment: Install a good ground at the entry to your house
and run a wire to it for your shortwave receiver. Once done, take an
ohmmeter and measure the resistance between that ground wire and the screw
on your wall outlet. I have often been surprised at how much resistance
exists between the wall outlet and a "real ground." Well, that resistance is
probably more than enough to divert a lightning current to a shorter path to
your receiver such as through its antenna. Good luck.


Vern Weiss W9STB


"w_tom" wrote in message
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Protecting the antenna means providing lightning with an
alternative path to earth. Your building does that just fine.
But be better advised to earth using a lightning rod located
above the roof.

Safety ground system and earthing system share many
components. Different systems for different purposes with
some common parts. AC wall receptacle is not an earth
ground. An antenna is earthed so that lightning will not take
a more destructive path via the receiver. Ac receptacle
ground means lightning would spread out inside the building to
damage other electronics.

Connect things to the wall receptacle grounded screw to
protect human life. This is not same as earthing lightning.
To earth lightning, install Ben Franklin's well proven
solution above the roof. Earth incoming transients on utility
wires using either 'whole house' protector or a ground block -
all connected to a common earth ground that remains outside
the building.

Steve Rabinowitz wrote:
I guess the old way of attaching a wire to the screw that holds
the face plate of the electric outlet won't be any good then. I
could have swore my father years ago used that for grounding.

Vern Weiss [W9STB],

Do the same simple experiment in a 50+ Year Old House
and you may be 'shocked' at the results ;-) ~ RHF

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"Smokey" wrote:

I'm with Tom...

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Then you would be the "thunder" to the nut case lightning Troll.

In any event into the kill file with you.

Plonk

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Telamon
Ventura, California