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SeeingEyeDog December 21st 05 01:21 AM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
Wal-Mart operates over 1,000 "secret" factories in China. One of these, a
factory in Lungcheong, requires its workers to work 13 hour days, six to
seven days a week, for as little as 18-33 cents an hour — well below the
already abysmal Chinese minimum wage.
....
the Communist Chinese government is complicit in the human rights violations
that occur on a regular basis at these factories, as they allow Wal-Mart to
circumvent Chinese law.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-12-19/35912.html

Wal-Mart’s ties with Communist China

the Communist Chinese government helps to keep these factories from the
public eyes, and away from proper scrutiny.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-12-17/35890.html



GYT December 21st 05 02:00 AM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
Even at 13 hours seven days a week that's only 91 hours a week. My last job
worked that much or more. My friend who owns a restaurant works 115 hours a
week. He will close for Christmas eve and Christmas day. That will be a nice
break for him so he can see his kids.

Merry Christmas everyone! God Bless America!




"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message
...
Wal-Mart operates over 1,000 "secret" factories in China. One of these, a
factory in Lungcheong, requires its workers to work 13 hour days, six to
seven days a week, for as little as 18-33 cents an hour - well below the
already abysmal Chinese minimum wage.
...
the Communist Chinese government is complicit in the human rights

violations
that occur on a regular basis at these factories, as they allow Wal-Mart

to
circumvent Chinese law.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-12-19/35912.html

Wal-Mart's ties with Communist China

the Communist Chinese government helps to keep these factories from the
public eyes, and away from proper scrutiny.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-12-17/35890.html





dk December 21st 05 02:30 AM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
I'm as anti-Wal-Mart as they come, but I do remember seeing a photo
review of the Degen factory on radiointel.com, and things looked pretty
good. I just checked on the website and can't seem to come accross it
for a link. From what I remember of it, the working conditions looked
very good.


justindavid December 21st 05 03:30 AM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
On 20 Dec 2005 18:39:07 -0800, "junius" wrote:

Hmm? Is Wal-Mart selling Kaito radios?


I just did a search on their site and didn't come up with any
references to either Degen or Kaito or shortwave radio.

GYT December 21st 05 04:57 PM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
It's all relative. A person that makes $150 a month can live better in China
than a person in the U.S. making 10 to 15 times more money. Trust me when I
tell you I have first hand experience on this issue. If you don't want to
support the Chinese economy, don't ever by anything from them again...
especially radios and hearts.



"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message
...
Your friend made $38?

"GYT" No Email Address wrote in message
...
Even at 13 hours seven days a week that's only 91 hours a week. My last

job
worked that much or more. My friend who owns a restaurant works 115

hours
a
week. He will close for Christmas eve and Christmas day. That will be a

nice
break for him so he can see his kids.

Merry Christmas everyone! God Bless America!




"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message
...
Wal-Mart operates over 1,000 "secret" factories in China. One of

these,
a
factory in Lungcheong, requires its workers to work 13 hour days, six

to
seven days a week, for as little as 18-33 cents an hour - well below

the
already abysmal Chinese minimum wage.
...
the Communist Chinese government is complicit in the human rights

violations
that occur on a regular basis at these factories, as they allow

Wal-Mart
to
circumvent Chinese law.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-12-19/35912.html

Wal-Mart's ties with Communist China

the Communist Chinese government helps to keep these factories from

the
public eyes, and away from proper scrutiny.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-12-17/35890.html









justindavid December 22nd 05 04:28 AM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:47:17 GMT, Veritas
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:35:06 -0600, "SeeingEyeDog"
wrote:

Your friend made $38?

"GYT" No Email Address wrote in message
...
Even at 13 hours seven days a week that's only 91 hours a week. My last

job
worked that much or more. My friend who owns a restaurant works 115 hours

a
week. He will close for Christmas eve and Christmas day. That will be a

nice
break for him so he can see his kids.

Merry Christmas everyone! God Bless America!




"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message
...
Wal-Mart operates over 1,000 "secret" factories in China. One of these,

a
factory in Lungcheong, requires its workers to work 13 hour days, six to
seven days a week, for as little as 18-33 cents an hour - well below the
already abysmal Chinese minimum wage.
...
the Communist Chinese government is complicit in the human rights
violations
that occur on a regular basis at these factories, as they allow Wal-Mart
to
circumvent Chinese law.

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-12-19/35912.html

If only any of this were true...the workers in the WalMart factories
make much more than most Chinese.


Could you make it on a WalMart salary?


RHF December 22nd 05 04:59 PM

(OT) : Communist Chinese Sweatshops - So... What Is the Alternative ? To Have China Go Back To It's Past and Once Again Become a Maoist Society ?
 
For One and All,

All Things are Relative and in the Context of China :
What does a Chinese peasant working in a State Collective Farm Make ?
and How Many Hours Do They Work a Day ? and in a Week ?

Many are living the Chinese Country-Side opt for
the Good Life of Today's Chinese Factory Worker.

Sort of like a re-run of our own American History;
and what was being written then;
about the injustices of Factory Work
and the Lot of the Factory Worker.
Note - European History is little different
from our own in this respect.

So... What Is the Alternative ?
To Have China Go Back To It's Past
and Once Again Become a Maoist Society ?

societies (people) and nations change best through . . .
progress and evolution over time - not revolution ~ RHF

David December 22nd 05 06:30 PM

(OT) : Communist Chinese Sweatshops - So... What Is the Alternative ? To Have China Go Back To It's Past and Once Again Become a Maoist Society ?
 
On 22 Dec 2005 08:59:41 -0800, "RHF"
wrote:

For One and All,

All Things are Relative and in the Context of China :
What does a Chinese peasant working in a State Collective Farm Make ?
and How Many Hours Do They Work a Day ? and in a Week ?

Many are living the Chinese Country-Side opt for
the Good Life of Today's Chinese Factory Worker.

Sort of like a re-run of our own American History;
and what was being written then;
about the injustices of Factory Work
and the Lot of the Factory Worker.
Note - European History is little different
from our own in this respect.

So... What Is the Alternative ?
To Have China Go Back To It's Past
and Once Again Become a Maoist Society ?

societies (people) and nations change best through . . .
progress and evolution over time - not revolution ~ RHF
.
.

You're pretty high and far-out, aren't you?


DJ Bjorklund December 23rd 05 05:38 PM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
Word!!
I'm totally with you on this man.
Everyone forced to work at Walmart, no wait, ANYWHERE, no matter their
position/function should demand and be provided whatever salary or
hourly rate of pay that they alone have pre-determined will allow them
to "make it".

Really, its so simple! This idea of mine could work my brothers and
sisters.
Lets get legs under this thing doods.
Its us against "The MAN" man. Right on!

Wait, I just thought it through Justin. Our next Eminem CD would
likely end up being about $275.50
Never mind.



On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:28:28 GMT, justindavid
wrote:


Could you make it on a WalMart salary?


justindavid December 23rd 05 10:54 PM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:38:34 -0600, DJ Bjorklund
wrote:

Word!!
I'm totally with you on this man.
Everyone forced to work at Walmart, no wait, ANYWHERE, no matter their
position/function should demand and be provided whatever salary or
hourly rate of pay that they alone have pre-determined will allow them
to "make it".

Really, its so simple! This idea of mine could work my brothers and
sisters.
Lets get legs under this thing doods.
Its us against "The MAN" man. Right on!

Wait, I just thought it through Justin. Our next Eminem CD would
likely end up being about $275.50
Never mind.



On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:28:28 GMT, justindavid
wrote:


Could you make it on a WalMart salary?


More than 30 million Americans make $9.00 or less per hour. That's
just about poverty level. I'm not sure how many people there are in
the work force but 30 million is a far portion of the total.

dxAce December 23rd 05 11:04 PM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 


justindavid wrote:

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:38:34 -0600, DJ Bjorklund
wrote:

Word!!
I'm totally with you on this man.
Everyone forced to work at Walmart, no wait, ANYWHERE, no matter their
position/function should demand and be provided whatever salary or
hourly rate of pay that they alone have pre-determined will allow them
to "make it".

Really, its so simple! This idea of mine could work my brothers and
sisters.
Lets get legs under this thing doods.
Its us against "The MAN" man. Right on!

Wait, I just thought it through Justin. Our next Eminem CD would
likely end up being about $275.50
Never mind.



On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 04:28:28 GMT, justindavid
wrote:


Could you make it on a WalMart salary?


More than 30 million Americans make $9.00 or less per hour. That's
just about poverty level.


That would pretty much be correct for a family of four based upon the 2004
stats: $18,850.

Say one wage earner at$9/h and a 40 hour week X 52 = 18720.

The poverty level in 2004 for an individual was $9,310.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



SeeingEyeDog December 24th 05 03:09 PM

Degen/Kaito Radios from Communist Chinese Sweatshops
 
Wal-Mart Ordered to Pay $172 Million by Jury

"What was compelling for the jury was that we put a lot of evidence before
them of memos by Wal-Mart from seven years ago that concluded they had been
breaking the law," said Jessica Grant, a lawyer for the plaintiffs. "Instead
of taking steps to solve the problem, Wal-Mart concealed it."

Wal-Mart faces similar lawsuits in over 30 states, said Grant, whose firm is
pressing two of the court challenges, one in Maryland and the other in
Massachusetts, on behalf of 80,000 class-action plaintiffs.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-12-22/36093.html
"SeeingEyeDog" wrote in message
...
Kaito (Degen) is a subsidiary of China National Electronics Import &

Export
Shenzhen Company (CEIEC ShenZhen) http://www.ceiecsz.com.cn/

The CEIEC company is a conglomerate who manufactures hundreds of

electronic
products with brand names such as Mastech, Sinometer, Unistar, Kaiwa,

Epsic,
Hisonic. The company is distributed in more than ten enterprises in the
fields of international trade, real estate, financial securities and high

&
new tech industries.

ANY Chinese company in China as large and broad as CEIEC inevitably is
intimately associated with the PLA and the Chinese Communist Party.
http://www.ceiecsz.com.cn/en/about.company.htm

"dk" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm as anti-Wal-Mart as they come, but I do remember seeing a photo
review of the Degen factory on radiointel.com, and things looked pretty
good. I just checked on the website and can't seem to come accross it
for a link. From what I remember of it, the working conditions looked
very good.







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