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John S. January 13th 06 04:36 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 

wrote:
Kepner-Tregoe Problem Analysis says something changed in the production
line in India.


Common sense will tell you the same thing at considerably lower cost.
Either a bad batch of components (high on the list) or a change in
manufacturing process ( much lower but possible).



Either with the parts or with the personnel or with the procedure. It
is usually a person.
We had a problem here at work with a valve traceable to a supplier who
had an untrained summer student for about a month who did not get
trained on a small critical detail.

This is typical KT Problem Analysis, look for what changed on the the
Time Line for this radio production


That is old wine in new bottles. It was seen previously as TQM, QA and
all the other acronyms consultants made millions from.



Paul



[email protected] January 13th 06 04:44 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
Seeeee,I told y'all aboot them Stupid E1's a longgg time ago.(why dont
y'all listen to auld Hansom Larry? Ladies,, I
need to get some of my emails out of there first if y'all ladies want to
flirt with me) Flatly speaking,I still sayyyy,,, too much money for the
amount of bread.And,I will never buy an E1 unless one shows up at the
Goodwill thrift store for two dollars.Sheesh,they dont even put an AM
Antenna in them Stupid E1's! y'all can have them! It's like buying a
Motorscooter with a blown engyne.LQQK,them E1's are NOT worth the money!
cuhulin


wavetrapper January 13th 06 04:54 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
Well, I think we should give Eton a little credit here. (1) They
fessed up to a problem [they did not do so with the Sat800] and (2)
they are offering make the owners whole plus provide a "premium" for
the inconvenience.

They learned from last time, so that's good.

CCRadio owners with the failing display problem would have liked
similar treatment.

They do have a lot to learn, however, about creating false expectations
with those availability dates. They'd be much better to overshoot the
date by a lot and then be hero's when the radio becomes available
"ahead of time." All those missed dates did become comical.

I hope they succeed as a company. Not many sw mfgrs remaining.



wrote:
Ordinarily I wouldn't blink an eye over something like this. Recalls
happen. They're a fact of life for all manufacturers. However, Eton's
case is different. How many false production deadlines did they
announce to their customers and the general public? Was anyone even
able to keep track? If you're going to jerk your customers around in
such a brazen way for close to a freaking decade, then quality control
had better be A-OK when the product finally reaches the customer. So
far as I can tell, Eton doesn't have one whit of respect for its
customers, which is also probably why it resorts to silly tricks like
E1 to sell more radios to the untutored buyer.



[email protected] January 13th 06 05:21 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
Sangean radios? Dont forget,I did once buy two of those Sangean ccrane
radios.The first one was the AM/FM/Weather Band/a couple of tv channels
(I am watching 007 shaken not stirred Live and Let Die James Bond movie
on my Radio tv right now,well,sort of anyway) that Stupid Art Bell and
Stupid George Noory sometimes tout on C to C (Art Bell and George Noory
really ARE STUPID!,THE LQQK STUPID TOO!) and I sent that Sangean piece
of Crap BACK to Fortuna,California and then I bought and tried out a
Stupid plastic Sangean ATS (or whatever they call it) 909 so-called
Stupid plastic piece of Crap radio from Stupid ccrane.I sent that Stupid
piece of plastic JUNK! BACK to Fortuna,California too.Please,do not
deign to sell me a Stupid radio!
cuhulin


[email protected] January 13th 06 05:22 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
SCREW!!! ccrane!!!!
cuhulin


[email protected] January 13th 06 05:25 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
Do NOT buy any Sangean radios.You WILL get Gyped BIG TIME!
cuhulin


David January 13th 06 05:35 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
On 13 Jan 2006 08:17:10 -0800, wrote:

Kepner-Tregoe Problem Analysis says something changed in the production
line in India.

Either with the parts or with the personnel or with the procedure. It
is usually a person.
We had a problem here at work with a valve traceable to a supplier who
had an untrained summer student for about a month who did not get
trained on a small critical detail.

This is typical KT Problem Analysis, look for what changed on the the
Time Line for this radio production

Paul

Is that anything like Six Sigma?

I vote for the wrong Zener Diode.


David January 13th 06 05:35 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
On 13 Jan 2006 08:31:35 -0800, wrote:

Ordinarily I wouldn't blink an eye over something like this. Recalls
happen. They're a fact of life for all manufacturers. However, Eton's
case is different. How many false production deadlines did they
announce to their customers and the general public? Was anyone even
able to keep track? If you're going to jerk your customers around in
such a brazen way for close to a freaking decade, then quality control
had better be A-OK when the product finally reaches the customer. So
far as I can tell, Eton doesn't have one whit of respect for its
customers, which is also probably why it resorts to silly tricks like
E1 to sell more radios to the untutored buyer.

Are you an America hater? At least it ain't a dog-eating Jap company.


Jim Hackett January 13th 06 06:09 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 
The ONLY reason the radio is being recalled is because it's MUCH cheaper to
fix the radio than to have to pay MILLIONS to people for burning their house
to the ground...



"wavetrapper" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, I think we should give Eton a little credit here. (1) They
fessed up to a problem [they did not do so with the Sat800] and (2)
they are offering make the owners whole plus provide a "premium" for
the inconvenience.

They learned from last time, so that's good.

CCRadio owners with the failing display problem would have liked
similar treatment.

They do have a lot to learn, however, about creating false expectations
with those availability dates. They'd be much better to overshoot the
date by a lot and then be hero's when the radio becomes available
"ahead of time." All those missed dates did become comical.

I hope they succeed as a company. Not many sw mfgrs remaining.



wrote:
Ordinarily I wouldn't blink an eye over something like this. Recalls
happen. They're a fact of life for all manufacturers. However, Eton's
case is different. How many false production deadlines did they
announce to their customers and the general public? Was anyone even
able to keep track? If you're going to jerk your customers around in
such a brazen way for close to a freaking decade, then quality control
had better be A-OK when the product finally reaches the customer. So
far as I can tell, Eton doesn't have one whit of respect for its
customers, which is also probably why it resorts to silly tricks like
E1 to sell more radios to the untutored buyer.





junius January 13th 06 06:25 PM

Eton E1 Recall
 

If you're going to jerk your customers around in
such a brazen way for close to a freaking decade



Yeah, I guess we first saw the Satellit 900 ads in, what?, the '96
Passport to World Band Radio? Then, nothing! I think that a lot of us
had simply stopped thinkin' about the '900 until The Shortwave Store in
Canada in 2000 or 2001 posted something about the forthcoming release
of the '900.

The real buffoonery began in late 2002 when we started seeing pictures
of the E1 in the couple of months preceding CES 2003. It was from
there that things really degenerated with multiple, multiple missed
release targets.

Of course, the '900 as designed by Grundig never saw the light of day:

http://www.satellit700.com/900/900all.html
http://www.satellit700.com/900/900lcd.html
http://www.satellit700.com/900/900label.html

The E1 is an entirely different radio altogether.



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