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Old January 14th 06, 01:53 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Just an example of interference from this wretched IBOC, listening
to Imus on WFAN 660 NYC from Central Ohio, having nulled away the local
WXIC 660 in Waverly Ohio, and WMIC 660 in Sandusky MI

http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/imuscut.iboc.ram (25 seconds)

not a sterling moment in Imus but, at 22 seconds in, WSCR _670_ Chicago
flips on IBOC for the morning at 8:15am Eastern, and that's the end of
Imus on _660_.

(The glitch at 17 before that is switching the receiver from DSB to LSB, to get
rid of the 4 Hz wobble from WXIC being 4 Hz high in frequency; me being unaware
of what is coming down the tunnel in 5 seconds.)

Not that it's news to anybody, but just a recorded example at hand.

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Old January 14th 06, 03:09 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:53:29 GMT, Ron Hardin
wrote:

Just an example of interference from this wretched IBOC, listening
to Imus on WFAN 660 NYC from Central Ohio, having nulled away the local
WXIC 660 in Waverly Ohio, and WMIC 660 in Sandusky MI

http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/imuscut.iboc.ram (25 seconds)

not a sterling moment in Imus but, at 22 seconds in, WSCR _670_ Chicago
flips on IBOC for the morning at 8:15am Eastern, and that's the end of
Imus on _660_.

(The glitch at 17 before that is switching the receiver from DSB to LSB, to get
rid of the 4 Hz wobble from WXIC being 4 Hz high in frequency; me being unaware
of what is coming down the tunnel in 5 seconds.)

Not that it's news to anybody, but just a recorded example at hand.

Same here in Los Angeles. KTLK 1150 is completely buried in IBOC hash
from KSL Salt Lake City 1160 every morning. They should wait until
everyone is on Daytime power before allowing that crap be turned on.

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Old January 14th 06, 03:11 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Ron Hardin wrote:
Just an example of interference from this wretched IBOC, listening
to Imus on WFAN 660 NYC from Central Ohio, having nulled away the local
WXIC 660 in Waverly Ohio, and WMIC 660 in Sandusky MI

http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/imuscut.iboc.ram (25 seconds)

not a sterling moment in Imus but, at 22 seconds in, WSCR _670_ Chicago
flips on IBOC for the morning at 8:15am Eastern, and that's the end of
Imus on _660_.

(The glitch at 17 before that is switching the receiver from DSB to LSB, to get
rid of the 4 Hz wobble from WXIC being 4 Hz high in frequency; me being unaware
of what is coming down the tunnel in 5 seconds.)

Not that it's news to anybody, but just a recorded example at hand.


Of course, the official Ibiquity line is:

- You can't get WFAN in Ohio.
- You ought to be listening to your *local* stations.
- Yeah, the program (/format) you want to listen to isn't on any of your
locals, but the John Doofus Talk Extravaganza is; isn't that just as good?
- Oh, John Doofus isn't the same thing - you really want to listen to
*Imus*? He'll be on one of the IBOC subchannels of one of your local
FMs. Someday. Maybe.

Some advance, huh?

I do think IBOC will eventually sell millions of digital radios.

Millions of Sirius and XM digital radios.
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Old January 17th 06, 04:21 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
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[snip]


not a sterling moment in Imus but, at 22 seconds in, WSCR _670_ Chicago
flips on IBOC for the morning at 8:15am Eastern, and that's the end of
Imus on _660_.


[snip]

For what it's worth, WSCR's CBS owned sister station, WBBM 780, still hasn't
resumed IBOC broadcasting. The upper sideband interfered with O'Hare
airport's 800 kHz Traffic Information Station (actually a parking
information station). I don't know if the interference has anything to do
with suspending the IBOC broadcasting from WBBM.

During the time both stations were testing, there were times in which both
WBBM and WSCR were both running IBOC at the same time and times in which
they were running IBOC alternately. I didn't think about it much at the
time, but I now wonder if they were trying to get both IBOC channels
broadcasting off the same antenna.

Frank Dresser


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Old January 17th 06, 05:14 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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I can't understand why anybody would want to listen to imus the an.s
anyway.I have better sense that to listen to that crap.
cuhulin



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Old January 18th 06, 02:55 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Hi Frank,

I didn't realize you were in the Chicago area. Now, if only WTMJ would turn
off their IBOC signal. They totally wipe out 610 and 630 up here in
Waukegan.

Pete
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
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[snip]


not a sterling moment in Imus but, at 22 seconds in, WSCR _670_ Chicago
flips on IBOC for the morning at 8:15am Eastern, and that's the end of
Imus on _660_.


[snip]

For what it's worth, WSCR's CBS owned sister station, WBBM 780, still
hasn't
resumed IBOC broadcasting. The upper sideband interfered with O'Hare
airport's 800 kHz Traffic Information Station (actually a parking
information station). I don't know if the interference has anything to do
with suspending the IBOC broadcasting from WBBM.

During the time both stations were testing, there were times in which both
WBBM and WSCR were both running IBOC at the same time and times in which
they were running IBOC alternately. I didn't think about it much at the
time, but I now wonder if they were trying to get both IBOC channels
broadcasting off the same antenna.

Frank Dresser




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Old January 19th 06, 01:28 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Frank Dresser wrote:
During the time both stations were testing, there were times in which both
WBBM and WSCR were both running IBOC at the same time and times in which
they were running IBOC alternately. I didn't think about it much at the
time, but I now wonder if they were trying to get both IBOC channels
broadcasting off the same antenna.


I suppose that's possible, but http://www.fybush.com/site-010801.html
confirmed my memory that the two stations' transmitter/antenna sites are
fairly far apart.

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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.
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Old January 19th 06, 02:52 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
 
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Dont Cry for Me,Argentina.And speaking of that,I sort of remember an
Argentina politics website that I think I accidently deleted from one of
my webtv user name thingys two or three days ago.

Where the deeppp, [where the deep] blue pearrrly waters, [blue pearly
waters] wash aponnn,[wash apon] [white silver sands] white silver
sandsssss.........
cuhulin

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Old January 19th 06, 04:55 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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"clifto" wrote in message
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I suppose that's possible, but http://www.fybush.com/site-010801.html
confirmed my memory that the two stations' transmitter/antenna sites are
fairly far apart.


Yeah, but the IBOC off the same antenna idea is the closest I can come up
with for an explanation for the times in which WSCR and WBBM were
alternating IBOC broadcasts. The fact that WBBM is no longer broadcasting
IBOC sidebands suggests CBS has an experimental interest in IBOC rather than
a fully committed interest in The Radio of Tomorrow.

I sure wish I'd grabbed a portable and checked the directions in which the
broadcasts from WBBM, WSCR and their IBOC sidebands nulled out.

Speaking of nulls, there's one obvious problem with having a significant
distance between the analog broadcast antenna and the IBOC antenna. Some
IBOC radio owners would end up in areas in which the analog and broadcast
antennas are at right angles to each other. The IBOC sidebands might get
nulled out, and the High Defination Radio listener would get stuck with the
Lo-Fi'd downgraded IBOC-analog channel.

So, maybe they were not IBOCing the same tower. But I think it's possible
CBS could consolidate both broadcasters to the same site eventually. Save on
engineering costs, make a few bucks off the surplus real estate and reduce
the tax burden.

But I don't know. I do like to speculate.

Frank Dresser



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iboc SUCKS!
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