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Josh January 31st 06 02:40 PM

sounds like teletype
 
Hi,

Sometimes when I'm runing in stations with my grundig-fr200 radio I hear
something that sounds like teletype or really fast morse code. what is this?

Josh



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Radio TexMex January 31st 06 04:45 PM

sounds like teletype
 
Josh wrote:

Hi,

Sometimes when I'm runing in stations with my grundig-fr200 radio I hear
something that sounds like teletype or really fast morse code. what is
this?

Josh




Most likely RTTY or some other digital mode. If your radio receives SSB, you
ought to try and decode it with some of these software RTTY readers out
there.

[email protected] January 31st 06 04:49 PM

sounds like teletype
 
Sometimes when I'm runing in stations with my
grundig-fr200 radio I hear something that
sounds like teletype or really fast morse code. what is this?


Could be WEFAX, FAX, RTTY, SSTV, PACTOR, NAVTEX, some packet-based FSK
mode etc. You don't give us much to narrow it down.

Sometimes they intersperse CW ID's in among the deedle-deedles.

Tim.


Josh January 31st 06 04:49 PM

sounds like teletype
 
what is ssb?

Josh


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"Radio TexMex" wrote in message
...
Josh wrote:

Hi,

Sometimes when I'm runing in stations with my grundig-fr200 radio I hear
something that sounds like teletype or really fast morse code. what is
this?

Josh




Most likely RTTY or some other digital mode. If your radio receives SSB,
you
ought to try and decode it with some of these software RTTY readers out
there.




Radio TexMex January 31st 06 05:04 PM

sounds like teletype
 
Josh wrote:

what is ssb?

Josh



Single Side Band mode is a modulated signal without the AM carrier. You
usually don't want a carrier in the way when trying to use most data modes:

He

http://www.sgcworld.com/whatisssbtechnote.html

Read up!

Have fun! - Matt

Jim Haynes January 31st 06 08:38 PM

sounds like teletype
 
Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.
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jhhaynes at earthlink dot net


Telamon January 31st 06 11:34 PM

sounds like teletype
 
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.


I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

running dogg February 1st 06 02:47 AM

sounds like teletype
 
Telamon wrote:

In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.


I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.


We're probably talking government and military data comms. In that case,
it would be essential to encrypt it. Private services have moved to
satellite for the most part. The military needs the mobility that
shortwave provides-you can't haul a satellite dish around Baghdad, even
a small one. Private organizations don't, so they use satellite.


Ron Baker, Pluralitas! February 1st 06 03:24 AM

sounds like teletype
 

"running dogg" wrote in message
...
Telamon wrote:

In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.


I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.


We're probably talking government and military data comms. In that case,
it would be essential to encrypt it. Private services have moved to
satellite for the most part. The military needs the mobility that
shortwave provides-you can't haul a satellite dish around Baghdad, even
a small one. Private organizations don't, so they use satellite.


HF is used commercially to send data to ships.
http://www.globewireless.com/solutio...t1_hfradio.php
HF is useful for communicating with planes over the ocean.
http://spacecom.grc.nasa.gov/icnsconf/docs/2003/04_B1/B1-05-deBarros.pdf#search='hfdl'

--
rb



Ron Baker, Pluralitas! February 1st 06 03:25 AM

sounds like teletype
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.


I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.


You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.

--
rb



Ron Baker, Pluralitas! February 1st 06 03:26 AM

sounds like teletype
 

"Josh" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Sometimes when I'm runing in stations with my grundig-fr200 radio I hear
something that sounds like teletype or really fast morse code. what is
this?


What frequencies?

--
rb



Brian Denley February 1st 06 03:55 AM

sounds like teletype
 
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of
what you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.


I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for
them to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will
correct my speculation.


You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.


How do you explain CW?

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



an_old_friend February 1st 06 04:12 AM

sounds like teletype
 

Brian Denley wrote:
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of
what you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for
them to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will
correct my speculation.


You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.


How do you explain CW?


an aside I find it amusing that a memebr of NCI is explain this but Ron
Baker's statement is incorrect because it is incomplete he should have
type (caps mine) "Hams are prohibited from sending SECRECTLY coded
communications."

Morse Encoded OOKed CW is not asecert the same rule allows PSK #! the
code is known, there was a discusion last July i think on RRAP to the
effect that Likely a coded messge by some PGP could be send over ARS if
the loctcation of all the keys were tranmited in the clear. it was
alsoagreed that the FCC would likely fght that battle out

--
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http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html


Ron Baker, Pluralitas! February 1st 06 04:52 AM

sounds like teletype
 

"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of
what you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for
them to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will
correct my speculation.


You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.


How do you explain CW?


I beg forgiveness.
Strike 'coded' and insert 'encrypted'.

--
rb



[email protected] February 1st 06 06:24 AM

sounds like teletype
 
You are not even supposed to speak in code. Yet somehow, speaking in a
foreign language on repeaters is considered acceptable, though not by
me.

Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.


I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.


You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.

--
rb



clifto February 1st 06 11:43 PM

sounds like teletype
 
wrote:
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
(Jim Haynes) wrote:

Except for the amateur radio bands, there is very very little stuff
that sounds like teletype that is decodable these days. Most of what
you hear is synchronous and probably encrypted.

I'm not a ham and don't know the rules but it might be illegal for them
to use encryption. If this is not true I'm sure someone will correct my
speculation.


You are correct.
Hams are prohibited from sending coded communications.


You are not even supposed to speak in code. Yet somehow, speaking in a
foreign language on repeaters is considered acceptable, though not by
me.


There was a period when FCC considered ASCII to be a "secret code", and
prohibited its on-air use by hams.

Seriously.

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my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

[email protected] February 2nd 06 12:59 AM

sounds like teletype
 
When webtv first came out,it was illegal to transport a webtv unit to
any foreign countries because of 128 bit encryption.Look it up.
cuhulin


running dogg February 3rd 06 02:45 AM

sounds like teletype
 
wrote:

When webtv first came out,it was illegal to transport a webtv unit to
any foreign countries because of 128 bit encryption.Look it up.
cuhulin


Anybody remember the fuss over PGP (Pretty Good Privacy), a freeware
encryption program that came out in the early days of the public
internet? The feds HATED it because they were afraid that high grade
encryption would fall into the hands of our enemies. It never caught on,
and the NSA likely cracked the code, so they stopped making a fuss about
it and now nobody remembers it.


[email protected] February 3rd 06 06:20 AM

sounds like teletype
 
Heck,better than that,,, just invent some kind of a language nobody has
ever heard of before and use that to email people.Change it entirely
every once in a while so as to keep fed govt on their toes.
cuhulin


clifto February 5th 06 07:01 AM

sounds like teletype
 
running dogg wrote:
Anybody remember the fuss over PGP (Pretty Good Privacy), a freeware
encryption program that came out in the early days of the public
internet? The feds HATED it because they were afraid that high grade
encryption would fall into the hands of our enemies. It never caught on,
and the NSA likely cracked the code, so they stopped making a fuss about
it and now nobody remembers it.


I have always been suspicious since the time MIT (?) said, "you can't use
this version of it, but you can use this other version which is exactly
like the other version in every respect." Somehow I never believed the new
version was like the old version in every respect.

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If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.


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