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Buzzygirl February 5th 06 12:39 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
Oops... sorry to follow up my own post, but I wanted to add something... I
used to own a Sangean ATS-606 portable myself, and about the only stuff I
could ever pull in down on the "basement band" (longwave) was local airport
beacons and static. The ATS-606 was actually a decent little radio, but I
prefer the Kaito/Degens, and have since sold the 606. If you don't require
longwave capability, I still recommend looking into them.

Jackie



[email protected] February 5th 06 12:44 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
www.google.com Effects of EMP on tube type radios

I still like the old style tube type radios the best,I always will too.I
dont know how true it is,but many years ago,I read somewhere that in
case of EMP,the tube type radios will sit there and stutter along for a
while and then be working again as though nothing ever happened.Of
course if the lights go out,so will any tube type radios and transistor
radios.Metal garbage cans with tight fitting metal lids make good
"Faraday" cages and you can store a lot of electronic stuff in them too.
cuhulin


running dogg February 5th 06 03:49 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
mike wrote:

Roger wrote:
I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.


Tell us more about your emergency scenario?
Although it's possible to come up with a situation where there's an EMP
that doesn't get thru your faraday box and doesn't kill you, either
directly or indirectly...
I think you're much more likely to succumb to a dirty bomb or car bomb
or bird flu or be hit by a bus or killed by a jealous spouse or your HMO.
What are the other parts of your survival strategy? Radio doesn't
do much good if you don't have food/water/shelter.

Hmmm, wonder if the radio transmitters are in Faraday Boxes?


I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*. That
means that if you're not in the immediate area, and your radio antenna
isn't harmonic with the wavelength of the pulse, you have nothing to
worry about. Dark Angel type scenarios where the whole country is wiped
out by an EMP pulse apparently aren't very realistic, but they make for
good TV. I think a dirty bomb is more likely. But the real threat is
bioweapons-if Iran could weaponize bird flu or smallpox and make it into
a super killer then the **** would hit the fan. Smallpox has the
potential to kill 9 out of 10 people, that's what it did to the Indians.
I'm more worried about a flood since I live in a part of California that
has frequent major floods. I just worry that I wouldn't have the
presence of mind to take my Degen, since I'd have 15 minutes to
evacuate. A lot of the New Orleans refugees didn't have radios, and the
lack of info caused by that and govt bungling caused much of the panic.



David February 5th 06 01:59 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:11:54 -0800, mike wrote:


I think you're much more likely to succumb to a dirty bomb or car bomb
or bird flu or be hit by a bus or killed by a jealous spouse or your HMO.

All bombs are dirty.


David February 5th 06 02:03 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:



I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.


Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


dxAce February 5th 06 02:06 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 


David wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:



I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.


Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


Destroyed the USA?

LMFAO at the delusional 'tard who needs to take his meds.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David February 5th 06 02:31 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 09:06:12 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:



I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.


Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


Destroyed the USA?

Silencing dissent a growing trendBy Steve ThommaKnight
RidderWASHINGTON - The ejection of two women from the U.S. Capitol for
wearing message T-shirts during President Bush's State of the Union
speech this week was the latest incident in a growing trend of
stifling dissent.
Capitol Police later apologized for ejecting the women -- after one of
them, the wife of a congressman, complained bitterly, as did her
husband. The police acknowledged they'd acted overzealously.
But their actions weren't atypical in today's overheated political
climate. Protesters outside political conventions are herded behind
razor wire far from the action, citizens wearing a rival candidate's
stickers are forcefully ejected from presidential campaign rallies on
public property, and those who heckle the president or broadcast issue
ads within 60 days of an election can be prosecuted.
Silencing dissent isn't unique to the national government. Former New
York Mayor Rudy Giuliani once ordered city buses to remove an ad for
the New Yorker magazine that made fun of him.
Nor is it limited to one political party, noted Robert O'Neill,
director of the Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Freedom
of Expression at the University of Virginia. Both major parties limit
speech at their national conventions, inside and out, he said.
In 1992, for example, the Democrats refused to allow an abortion
opponent, the late Pennsylvania Gov. Robert Casey, to speak from the
podium.
And when three anti-war protesters stood in the upper balcony of San
Francisco's Masonic Auditorium last week during an appearance by Sen.
Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and yelled, ``Hillary, stop supporting the
war,'' they were quickly escorted away.
This trend has a chilling effect on those who disagree with people in
power, analysts say.
``The long-term consequence is a higher degree of self-censorship,''
O'Neill said. ``Society is the poorer when deprived of the marketplace
of ideas.''
The incident at Bush's State of the Union address was one of dissent
via T-shirts. Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan of Berkeley wore one
that proclaimed ``2245 dead. How many more?'' Police charged her with
a misdemeanor for unlawful disruptive conduct in the Capitol.
Police also ejected Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young,
R-Fla., for wearing a shirt saying ``Support the Troops -- Defending
Our Freedom.''
It wasn't the first time police have ejected Capitol visitors who wore
message T-shirts -- and the practice isn't limited to the Capitol.
In Denver last year, three people were thrown out of a Bush town-hall
meeting on Social Security after arriving in a car sporting a bumper
sticker proclaiming ``No more blood for oil'' and wore T-shirts under
their other clothes that said ``Stop the Lies.''
Evicting people who oppose the president, even if they don't say a
word, was a carry-over from Bush's 2004 presidential campaign.
In Charleston, W.Va., a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush
T-shirts to a Bush rally in the state Capitol building on the Fourth
of July. Police said they acted under orders from federal officials.
The charges were later dropped.
In Saginaw, Mich., Bush campaign workers ejected a woman for wearing a
pro-choice T-shirt. The campaign said it had to throw out people who
might make a scene.
In 2004, protesters at both national party conventions were herded
into areas far away from delegates, officials and the news media. At
the Democratic National Convention in Boston, protesters were kept in
enclosed areas surrounded by fences topped with razor wire and watched
by armed police.
It's a crime, punishable by up to six months in prison, to ``disrupt''
an event guarded by the Secret Service, which includes presidential
rallies. A proposed extension of the Patriot Act now being negotiated
in Congress would broaden such prohibitions to other vaguely defined
national events.
But no one's been convicted yet of a T-shirt violation, and such
prosecutions probably would be challenged as an affront to the First
Amendment's guarantee of free speech.
The Supreme Court ruled in 1971 that it wasn't illegal to wear an
obscene anti-Vietnam war jacket in a California courthouse, despite a
state law prohibiting such messages because they might incite
violence.
Bans on certain shirts and shouts are not the only ways dissent is
stifled. A 2002 campaign-finance reform designed to regulate the flow
of money into politics prohibited broadcast of issue ads within 60
days of elections.
``We were not allowed to take out radio ads,'' said Nadine Strossen,
president of the American Civil Liberties Union. ``We wanted to do ads
calling on both party candidates to oppose the Patriot Act. That is
now a crime. If we had done that, I would have faced a five-year
prison term.''
The Supreme Court recently ordered a three-judge panel to re-examine
the prohibition, which could lead to lifting the ban, but not until
after the 2006 elections.



Bob Miller February 5th 06 02:32 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 02:57:56 GMT, Roger
wrote:

I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.

So, what other makes/models should I consider? Repeating some of the
above, here's my criteria:

1) The size of the DX-399 or smaller.

2) General coverage MW-SW (up to 30 kHz), and with stereo FM (when fed
to earbuds). Don't need LW.

3) Good sound quality (especially of FM) when fed to earbuds.

4) As good or better sensitivity than the DX-399 for MW dxing and SW.

5) Don't need SSB, but would be nice.

6) Don't care too much about speaker quality, since I would use it
exclusively with earbuds.

7) Don't care about the other bells and whistles (e.g. alarm), but
some station memory would be nice.

So what are my other options? New and/or used (buyable through eBay)
will be considered.

Thanks!

Roger


There's a little am-fm-sw radio with a dynamo & wind-up handle; no
batteries necessary. It goes under several brand names: mine is from
LLBean, a Grundig FR-200. About $40. Choice of fashion colors, also
has a built-in flashlight :-)

Decent performance on the local AM-FM bands; picks up the louder
international stations fine.

It's my emergency radio... How do you build this Faraday Cage dealie,
and what's it do?

bob
k5qwg





dxAce February 5th 06 02:44 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 


David wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 09:06:12 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:


I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.

Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


Destroyed the USA?

Silencing dissent a growing trendBy Steve ThommaKnight
RidderWASHINGTON - The ejection of two women from the U.S. Capitol for
wearing message T-shirts during President Bush's State of the Union
speech this week was the latest incident in a growing trend of
stifling dissent.
Capitol Police later apologized for ejecting the women -- after one of
them, the wife of a congressman, complained bitterly, as did her
husband. The police acknowledged they'd acted overzealously.
But their actions weren't atypical in today's overheated political
climate. Protesters outside political conventions are herded behind
razor wire far from the action, citizens wearing a rival candidate's
stickers are forcefully ejected from presidential campaign rallies on
public property, and those who heckle the president or broadcast issue
ads within 60 days of an election can be prosecuted.
Silencing dissent isn't unique to the national government. Former New
York Mayor Rudy Giuliani once ordered city buses to remove an ad for
the New Yorker magazine that made fun of him.
Nor is it limited to one political party, noted Robert O'Neill,
director of the Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Freedom
of Expression at the University of Virginia. Both major parties limit
speech at their national conventions, inside and out, he said.
In 1992, for example, the Democrats refused to allow an abortion
opponent, the late Pennsylvania Gov. Robert Casey, to speak from the
podium.
And when three anti-war protesters stood in the upper balcony of San
Francisco's Masonic Auditorium last week during an appearance by Sen.
Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and yelled, ``Hillary, stop supporting the
war,'' they were quickly escorted away.
This trend has a chilling effect on those who disagree with people in
power, analysts say.
``The long-term consequence is a higher degree of self-censorship,''
O'Neill said. ``Society is the poorer when deprived of the marketplace
of ideas.''
The incident at Bush's State of the Union address was one of dissent
via T-shirts. Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan of Berkeley wore one
that proclaimed ``2245 dead. How many more?'' Police charged her with
a misdemeanor for unlawful disruptive conduct in the Capitol.
Police also ejected Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young,
R-Fla., for wearing a shirt saying ``Support the Troops -- Defending
Our Freedom.''
It wasn't the first time police have ejected Capitol visitors who wore
message T-shirts -- and the practice isn't limited to the Capitol.
In Denver last year, three people were thrown out of a Bush town-hall
meeting on Social Security after arriving in a car sporting a bumper
sticker proclaiming ``No more blood for oil'' and wore T-shirts under
their other clothes that said ``Stop the Lies.''
Evicting people who oppose the president, even if they don't say a
word, was a carry-over from Bush's 2004 presidential campaign.
In Charleston, W.Va., a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush
T-shirts to a Bush rally in the state Capitol building on the Fourth
of July. Police said they acted under orders from federal officials.
The charges were later dropped.
In Saginaw, Mich., Bush campaign workers ejected a woman for wearing a
pro-choice T-shirt. The campaign said it had to throw out people who
might make a scene.
In 2004, protesters at both national party conventions were herded
into areas far away from delegates, officials and the news media. At
the Democratic National Convention in Boston, protesters were kept in
enclosed areas surrounded by fences topped with razor wire and watched
by armed police.
It's a crime, punishable by up to six months in prison, to ``disrupt''
an event guarded by the Secret Service, which includes presidential
rallies. A proposed extension of the Patriot Act now being negotiated
in Congress would broaden such prohibitions to other vaguely defined
national events.
But no one's been convicted yet of a T-shirt violation, and such
prosecutions probably would be challenged as an affront to the First
Amendment's guarantee of free speech.
The Supreme Court ruled in 1971 that it wasn't illegal to wear an
obscene anti-Vietnam war jacket in a California courthouse, despite a
state law prohibiting such messages because they might incite
violence.
Bans on certain shirts and shouts are not the only ways dissent is
stifled. A 2002 campaign-finance reform designed to regulate the flow
of money into politics prohibited broadcast of issue ads within 60
days of elections.
``We were not allowed to take out radio ads,'' said Nadine Strossen,
president of the American Civil Liberties Union. ``We wanted to do ads
calling on both party candidates to oppose the Patriot Act. That is
now a crime. If we had done that, I would have faced a five-year
prison term.''
The Supreme Court recently ordered a three-judge panel to re-examine
the prohibition, which could lead to lifting the ban, but not until
after the 2006 elections.


Destroyed the USA?

You're making me laugh, 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] February 5th 06 03:23 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
I remember when I was in Vieux Carrie (the French Quarter) in
N'Awlins,and you say a lot of the people in N'Awlins didn't have radios?
There was a guy sitting on the curb in front of Houlihan's and he was
listening to a Zenith transistor Trans-Oceanic Radio.

Goinnnn to Montana to danceeee the Houlihannnnnn,,,,,,,,,
cuhulin



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