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Roger February 4th 06 02:57 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.

So, what other makes/models should I consider? Repeating some of the
above, here's my criteria:

1) The size of the DX-399 or smaller.

2) General coverage MW-SW (up to 30 kHz), and with stereo FM (when fed
to earbuds). Don't need LW.

3) Good sound quality (especially of FM) when fed to earbuds.

4) As good or better sensitivity than the DX-399 for MW dxing and SW.

5) Don't need SSB, but would be nice.

6) Don't care too much about speaker quality, since I would use it
exclusively with earbuds.

7) Don't care about the other bells and whistles (e.g. alarm), but
some station memory would be nice.

So what are my other options? New and/or used (buyable through eBay)
will be considered.

Thanks!

Roger


Beloved Leader February 4th 06 04:15 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
Buy a second DX-399 if you can find one. Either that or a Sangean
ATS-606. It's clear that you like the radio a great deal, so why mess
with a good thing?

I own a DX-399. I bought it when Radio Shack lost its mind and dumped
the Radio Shack brand SWRs. I think it is a terrific little radio. Its
oddest likable attribute has to be the multiple voltage wall wart. With
the included adapter, you can use it in Europe on 220 Vac.


[email protected] February 4th 06 01:17 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 

Check out the Degen DE1105..

http://www.radiointel.com/review-degende1105.htm

2 1/2 stars by passport.

Excellent little portable



Roger wrote:
I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.

So, what other makes/models should I consider? Repeating some of the
above, here's my criteria:

1) The size of the DX-399 or smaller.

2) General coverage MW-SW (up to 30 kHz), and with stereo FM (when fed
to earbuds). Don't need LW.

3) Good sound quality (especially of FM) when fed to earbuds.

4) As good or better sensitivity than the DX-399 for MW dxing and SW.

5) Don't need SSB, but would be nice.

6) Don't care too much about speaker quality, since I would use it
exclusively with earbuds.

7) Don't care about the other bells and whistles (e.g. alarm), but
some station memory would be nice.

So what are my other options? New and/or used (buyable through eBay)
will be considered.

Thanks!

Roger



Invader3K February 4th 06 01:20 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
Seems like the Grundig/Eton YB-400 would fit the bill for you as well.
Might be slightly bigger than your Radio Shack model, but has the
features you mentioned, and then some.


Jim February 4th 06 07:51 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
you will never beat that dx-399! the only choice is to get another one
or spend more money than you did on the dx to get a higher class model.
after the dx-399 any thing less is not acceptable.


David February 4th 06 08:38 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 02:57:56 GMT, Roger
wrote:

I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.

So, what other makes/models should I consider? Repeating some of the
above, here's my criteria:

1) The size of the DX-399 or smaller.

2) General coverage MW-SW (up to 30 kHz), and with stereo FM (when fed
to earbuds). Don't need LW.

3) Good sound quality (especially of FM) when fed to earbuds.

4) As good or better sensitivity than the DX-399 for MW dxing and SW.

5) Don't need SSB, but would be nice.

6) Don't care too much about speaker quality, since I would use it
exclusively with earbuds.

7) Don't care about the other bells and whistles (e.g. alarm), but
some station memory would be nice.

So what are my other options? New and/or used (buyable through eBay)
will be considered.

Thanks!

Roger

http://rffun.com/catalog/portable/1080.html


John Porter February 4th 06 09:21 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
Roger wrote in
:

I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

Don't know what size your Radio Shack DZ 399 is but I have had the Sangean
909 for years and it works great and it is a good travel radio or
emergency one too. It may have more bells and stuff than you what but in an
emergency they may be handy to have as well!


jstrain February 4th 06 10:10 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
Beloved Leader wrote:
Buy a second DX-399 if you can find one. Either that or a Sangean
ATS-606. It's clear that you like the radio a great deal, so why mess
with a good thing?

I own a DX-399. I bought it when Radio Shack lost its mind and dumped
the Radio Shack brand SWRs. I think it is a terrific little radio. Its
oddest likable attribute has to be the multiple voltage wall wart. With
the included adapter, you can use it in Europe on 220 Vac.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0247.html
I carry mine in shirt pocket daily. excellent AM and FM and 2 SW bands
which receive the stronger stations

price ~20.00

yodar

Yodar

mike February 5th 06 12:11 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
Roger wrote:
I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.


Tell us more about your emergency scenario?
Although it's possible to come up with a situation where there's an EMP
that doesn't get thru your faraday box and doesn't kill you, either
directly or indirectly...
I think you're much more likely to succumb to a dirty bomb or car bomb
or bird flu or be hit by a bus or killed by a jealous spouse or your HMO.
What are the other parts of your survival strategy? Radio doesn't
do much good if you don't have food/water/shelter.

Hmmm, wonder if the radio transmitters are in Faraday Boxes?

So, what other makes/models should I consider? Repeating some of the
above, here's my criteria:

1) The size of the DX-399 or smaller.

2) General coverage MW-SW (up to 30 kHz), and with stereo FM (when fed
to earbuds). Don't need LW.


30kHz is about as long wave as it gets.

3) Good sound quality (especially of FM) when fed to earbuds.

4) As good or better sensitivity than the DX-399 for MW dxing and SW.

5) Don't need SSB, but would be nice.

6) Don't care too much about speaker quality, since I would use it
exclusively with earbuds.

7) Don't care about the other bells and whistles (e.g. alarm), but
some station memory would be nice.

So what are my other options? New and/or used (buyable through eBay)
will be considered.


I kinda like the Sony ICF-SW-100.
Sound quality is awesome for it's size.
Make me an offer.

mike

Thanks!

Roger


Buzzygirl February 5th 06 12:26 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 

"mike" wrote in message
...
Roger wrote:
I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)


The Degen/Kaito 1102 and 1103 are quite small and they get decent sound
through earbuds. Both have SSB. I've used both, and feel these would be good
for what you're looking for. There's also the Kaito 1101, which does not
have SSB, but is very small, and it too sounds good when using earbuds.

There are other decent small portables out there, such as the Grundig G4000A
(formerly known as the YB-400PE) and
the Sangean ATS-505P. Both of these have SSB too.

All of the above-mentioned models can be had for under $150.00 US. You can
find many other portables that are much cheaper, but I cannot attest to
their reliability or functioning. Personally, I would pay more and stick
with the better models, as they are performance proven.

You may want to pick up a copy of the Passport to World Band Radio at a
local bookseller or on Amazon. They have a large section of shortwave
receiver reviews that cover everything from cheapie pocket portables to the
bleeding-edge, high-end receivers that are similar to ones used for
monitoring by the NSA.

Jackie



Buzzygirl February 5th 06 12:39 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
Oops... sorry to follow up my own post, but I wanted to add something... I
used to own a Sangean ATS-606 portable myself, and about the only stuff I
could ever pull in down on the "basement band" (longwave) was local airport
beacons and static. The ATS-606 was actually a decent little radio, but I
prefer the Kaito/Degens, and have since sold the 606. If you don't require
longwave capability, I still recommend looking into them.

Jackie



[email protected] February 5th 06 12:44 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
www.google.com Effects of EMP on tube type radios

I still like the old style tube type radios the best,I always will too.I
dont know how true it is,but many years ago,I read somewhere that in
case of EMP,the tube type radios will sit there and stutter along for a
while and then be working again as though nothing ever happened.Of
course if the lights go out,so will any tube type radios and transistor
radios.Metal garbage cans with tight fitting metal lids make good
"Faraday" cages and you can store a lot of electronic stuff in them too.
cuhulin


running dogg February 5th 06 03:49 AM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
mike wrote:

Roger wrote:
I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.


Tell us more about your emergency scenario?
Although it's possible to come up with a situation where there's an EMP
that doesn't get thru your faraday box and doesn't kill you, either
directly or indirectly...
I think you're much more likely to succumb to a dirty bomb or car bomb
or bird flu or be hit by a bus or killed by a jealous spouse or your HMO.
What are the other parts of your survival strategy? Radio doesn't
do much good if you don't have food/water/shelter.

Hmmm, wonder if the radio transmitters are in Faraday Boxes?


I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*. That
means that if you're not in the immediate area, and your radio antenna
isn't harmonic with the wavelength of the pulse, you have nothing to
worry about. Dark Angel type scenarios where the whole country is wiped
out by an EMP pulse apparently aren't very realistic, but they make for
good TV. I think a dirty bomb is more likely. But the real threat is
bioweapons-if Iran could weaponize bird flu or smallpox and make it into
a super killer then the **** would hit the fan. Smallpox has the
potential to kill 9 out of 10 people, that's what it did to the Indians.
I'm more worried about a flood since I live in a part of California that
has frequent major floods. I just worry that I wouldn't have the
presence of mind to take my Degen, since I'd have 15 minutes to
evacuate. A lot of the New Orleans refugees didn't have radios, and the
lack of info caused by that and govt bungling caused much of the panic.



David February 5th 06 01:59 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:11:54 -0800, mike wrote:


I think you're much more likely to succumb to a dirty bomb or car bomb
or bird flu or be hit by a bus or killed by a jealous spouse or your HMO.

All bombs are dirty.


David February 5th 06 02:03 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:



I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.


Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


dxAce February 5th 06 02:06 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 


David wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:



I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.


Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


Destroyed the USA?

LMFAO at the delusional 'tard who needs to take his meds.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David February 5th 06 02:31 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 09:06:12 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:



I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.


Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


Destroyed the USA?

Silencing dissent a growing trendBy Steve ThommaKnight
RidderWASHINGTON - The ejection of two women from the U.S. Capitol for
wearing message T-shirts during President Bush's State of the Union
speech this week was the latest incident in a growing trend of
stifling dissent.
Capitol Police later apologized for ejecting the women -- after one of
them, the wife of a congressman, complained bitterly, as did her
husband. The police acknowledged they'd acted overzealously.
But their actions weren't atypical in today's overheated political
climate. Protesters outside political conventions are herded behind
razor wire far from the action, citizens wearing a rival candidate's
stickers are forcefully ejected from presidential campaign rallies on
public property, and those who heckle the president or broadcast issue
ads within 60 days of an election can be prosecuted.
Silencing dissent isn't unique to the national government. Former New
York Mayor Rudy Giuliani once ordered city buses to remove an ad for
the New Yorker magazine that made fun of him.
Nor is it limited to one political party, noted Robert O'Neill,
director of the Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Freedom
of Expression at the University of Virginia. Both major parties limit
speech at their national conventions, inside and out, he said.
In 1992, for example, the Democrats refused to allow an abortion
opponent, the late Pennsylvania Gov. Robert Casey, to speak from the
podium.
And when three anti-war protesters stood in the upper balcony of San
Francisco's Masonic Auditorium last week during an appearance by Sen.
Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and yelled, ``Hillary, stop supporting the
war,'' they were quickly escorted away.
This trend has a chilling effect on those who disagree with people in
power, analysts say.
``The long-term consequence is a higher degree of self-censorship,''
O'Neill said. ``Society is the poorer when deprived of the marketplace
of ideas.''
The incident at Bush's State of the Union address was one of dissent
via T-shirts. Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan of Berkeley wore one
that proclaimed ``2245 dead. How many more?'' Police charged her with
a misdemeanor for unlawful disruptive conduct in the Capitol.
Police also ejected Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young,
R-Fla., for wearing a shirt saying ``Support the Troops -- Defending
Our Freedom.''
It wasn't the first time police have ejected Capitol visitors who wore
message T-shirts -- and the practice isn't limited to the Capitol.
In Denver last year, three people were thrown out of a Bush town-hall
meeting on Social Security after arriving in a car sporting a bumper
sticker proclaiming ``No more blood for oil'' and wore T-shirts under
their other clothes that said ``Stop the Lies.''
Evicting people who oppose the president, even if they don't say a
word, was a carry-over from Bush's 2004 presidential campaign.
In Charleston, W.Va., a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush
T-shirts to a Bush rally in the state Capitol building on the Fourth
of July. Police said they acted under orders from federal officials.
The charges were later dropped.
In Saginaw, Mich., Bush campaign workers ejected a woman for wearing a
pro-choice T-shirt. The campaign said it had to throw out people who
might make a scene.
In 2004, protesters at both national party conventions were herded
into areas far away from delegates, officials and the news media. At
the Democratic National Convention in Boston, protesters were kept in
enclosed areas surrounded by fences topped with razor wire and watched
by armed police.
It's a crime, punishable by up to six months in prison, to ``disrupt''
an event guarded by the Secret Service, which includes presidential
rallies. A proposed extension of the Patriot Act now being negotiated
in Congress would broaden such prohibitions to other vaguely defined
national events.
But no one's been convicted yet of a T-shirt violation, and such
prosecutions probably would be challenged as an affront to the First
Amendment's guarantee of free speech.
The Supreme Court ruled in 1971 that it wasn't illegal to wear an
obscene anti-Vietnam war jacket in a California courthouse, despite a
state law prohibiting such messages because they might incite
violence.
Bans on certain shirts and shouts are not the only ways dissent is
stifled. A 2002 campaign-finance reform designed to regulate the flow
of money into politics prohibited broadcast of issue ads within 60
days of elections.
``We were not allowed to take out radio ads,'' said Nadine Strossen,
president of the American Civil Liberties Union. ``We wanted to do ads
calling on both party candidates to oppose the Patriot Act. That is
now a crime. If we had done that, I would have faced a five-year
prison term.''
The Supreme Court recently ordered a three-judge panel to re-examine
the prohibition, which could lead to lifting the ban, but not until
after the 2006 elections.



Bob Miller February 5th 06 02:32 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 02:57:56 GMT, Roger
wrote:

I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.

So, what other makes/models should I consider? Repeating some of the
above, here's my criteria:

1) The size of the DX-399 or smaller.

2) General coverage MW-SW (up to 30 kHz), and with stereo FM (when fed
to earbuds). Don't need LW.

3) Good sound quality (especially of FM) when fed to earbuds.

4) As good or better sensitivity than the DX-399 for MW dxing and SW.

5) Don't need SSB, but would be nice.

6) Don't care too much about speaker quality, since I would use it
exclusively with earbuds.

7) Don't care about the other bells and whistles (e.g. alarm), but
some station memory would be nice.

So what are my other options? New and/or used (buyable through eBay)
will be considered.

Thanks!

Roger


There's a little am-fm-sw radio with a dynamo & wind-up handle; no
batteries necessary. It goes under several brand names: mine is from
LLBean, a Grundig FR-200. About $40. Choice of fashion colors, also
has a built-in flashlight :-)

Decent performance on the local AM-FM bands; picks up the louder
international stations fine.

It's my emergency radio... How do you build this Faraday Cage dealie,
and what's it do?

bob
k5qwg





dxAce February 5th 06 02:44 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 


David wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 09:06:12 -0500, dxAce
wrote:



David wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:49:37 -0800, running dogg wrote:

mike wrote:


I was wondering why he needs to put the radio in a faraday cage myself.
I've read that a typical EMP pulse bomb like Al Qaeda would most likely
use would mostly work on anything *that was on the same frequency*.

Al Qaeda has no bombs. They don't need them. The destroyed the USA
with $20 worth of box cutters (and the help of an incredibly
incompetent [or worse] administration).


Destroyed the USA?

Silencing dissent a growing trendBy Steve ThommaKnight
RidderWASHINGTON - The ejection of two women from the U.S. Capitol for
wearing message T-shirts during President Bush's State of the Union
speech this week was the latest incident in a growing trend of
stifling dissent.
Capitol Police later apologized for ejecting the women -- after one of
them, the wife of a congressman, complained bitterly, as did her
husband. The police acknowledged they'd acted overzealously.
But their actions weren't atypical in today's overheated political
climate. Protesters outside political conventions are herded behind
razor wire far from the action, citizens wearing a rival candidate's
stickers are forcefully ejected from presidential campaign rallies on
public property, and those who heckle the president or broadcast issue
ads within 60 days of an election can be prosecuted.
Silencing dissent isn't unique to the national government. Former New
York Mayor Rudy Giuliani once ordered city buses to remove an ad for
the New Yorker magazine that made fun of him.
Nor is it limited to one political party, noted Robert O'Neill,
director of the Thomas Jefferson Center for the Protection of Freedom
of Expression at the University of Virginia. Both major parties limit
speech at their national conventions, inside and out, he said.
In 1992, for example, the Democrats refused to allow an abortion
opponent, the late Pennsylvania Gov. Robert Casey, to speak from the
podium.
And when three anti-war protesters stood in the upper balcony of San
Francisco's Masonic Auditorium last week during an appearance by Sen.
Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and yelled, ``Hillary, stop supporting the
war,'' they were quickly escorted away.
This trend has a chilling effect on those who disagree with people in
power, analysts say.
``The long-term consequence is a higher degree of self-censorship,''
O'Neill said. ``Society is the poorer when deprived of the marketplace
of ideas.''
The incident at Bush's State of the Union address was one of dissent
via T-shirts. Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan of Berkeley wore one
that proclaimed ``2245 dead. How many more?'' Police charged her with
a misdemeanor for unlawful disruptive conduct in the Capitol.
Police also ejected Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young,
R-Fla., for wearing a shirt saying ``Support the Troops -- Defending
Our Freedom.''
It wasn't the first time police have ejected Capitol visitors who wore
message T-shirts -- and the practice isn't limited to the Capitol.
In Denver last year, three people were thrown out of a Bush town-hall
meeting on Social Security after arriving in a car sporting a bumper
sticker proclaiming ``No more blood for oil'' and wore T-shirts under
their other clothes that said ``Stop the Lies.''
Evicting people who oppose the president, even if they don't say a
word, was a carry-over from Bush's 2004 presidential campaign.
In Charleston, W.Va., a couple was arrested for wearing anti-Bush
T-shirts to a Bush rally in the state Capitol building on the Fourth
of July. Police said they acted under orders from federal officials.
The charges were later dropped.
In Saginaw, Mich., Bush campaign workers ejected a woman for wearing a
pro-choice T-shirt. The campaign said it had to throw out people who
might make a scene.
In 2004, protesters at both national party conventions were herded
into areas far away from delegates, officials and the news media. At
the Democratic National Convention in Boston, protesters were kept in
enclosed areas surrounded by fences topped with razor wire and watched
by armed police.
It's a crime, punishable by up to six months in prison, to ``disrupt''
an event guarded by the Secret Service, which includes presidential
rallies. A proposed extension of the Patriot Act now being negotiated
in Congress would broaden such prohibitions to other vaguely defined
national events.
But no one's been convicted yet of a T-shirt violation, and such
prosecutions probably would be challenged as an affront to the First
Amendment's guarantee of free speech.
The Supreme Court ruled in 1971 that it wasn't illegal to wear an
obscene anti-Vietnam war jacket in a California courthouse, despite a
state law prohibiting such messages because they might incite
violence.
Bans on certain shirts and shouts are not the only ways dissent is
stifled. A 2002 campaign-finance reform designed to regulate the flow
of money into politics prohibited broadcast of issue ads within 60
days of elections.
``We were not allowed to take out radio ads,'' said Nadine Strossen,
president of the American Civil Liberties Union. ``We wanted to do ads
calling on both party candidates to oppose the Patriot Act. That is
now a crime. If we had done that, I would have faced a five-year
prison term.''
The Supreme Court recently ordered a three-judge panel to re-examine
the prohibition, which could lead to lifting the ban, but not until
after the 2006 elections.


Destroyed the USA?

You're making me laugh, 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] February 5th 06 03:23 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
I remember when I was in Vieux Carrie (the French Quarter) in
N'Awlins,and you say a lot of the people in N'Awlins didn't have radios?
There was a guy sitting on the curb in front of Houlihan's and he was
listening to a Zenith transistor Trans-Oceanic Radio.

Goinnnn to Montana to danceeee the Houlihannnnnn,,,,,,,,,
cuhulin


[email protected] February 5th 06 03:26 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
I own a couple of old box cutters,somewhere around here.The blades in
them are all dull and rusty,probally wouldn't even cut hot butter.
cuhulin


David February 5th 06 04:16 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 09:44:38 -0500, dxAce
wrote:





Destroyed the USA?

You're making me laugh, 'tard boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA


As in 300,000,000 (minus 1; ME!) paranoid pussies.


SeeingEyeDog February 5th 06 04:54 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
"Ultra" portable inherently means a very small ferrite bar antenna for LW-MW
reception. Which will preclude any strong stand alone performance on LW-MW
without an external LW-MW antenna like the Terk Advantage AM loop or
something else for LW.

My picks for the ultimate "Ultra" portable are the Sony ICF-SW100 or
ICF-SW07. Both have Synch Detectors.

"Roger" wrote in message
...
I currently own a Radio Shack DX-399 (same model as the Sangean
ATS-606), which is a quite solid, portable LW-MW-SW-FM receiver with
quite good sound quality when delivered to ear buds (FM stereo to
earbuds.)

I mostly use this radio for local MW and FM listening, but will
occasionally listen to SW broadcasts, and DX-MW using a Radio Shack
loop.

I love this radio for its portability, but am looking for another to
put one of them away in a Faraday box for use in case of a major
emergency.

So, what other makes/models should I consider? Repeating some of the
above, here's my criteria:

1) The size of the DX-399 or smaller.

2) General coverage MW-SW (up to 30 kHz), and with stereo FM (when fed
to earbuds). Don't need LW.

3) Good sound quality (especially of FM) when fed to earbuds.

4) As good or better sensitivity than the DX-399 for MW dxing and SW.

5) Don't need SSB, but would be nice.

6) Don't care too much about speaker quality, since I would use it
exclusively with earbuds.

7) Don't care about the other bells and whistles (e.g. alarm), but
some station memory would be nice.

So what are my other options? New and/or used (buyable through eBay)
will be considered.

Thanks!

Roger




Roger February 5th 06 05:13 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
I thank everyone for replying to my inquiry about the best small
portable MW-SW-FM radio meeting my list of specs.

With regards to the various "Faraday Cage" comments, I'll not reply to
them in any substantive way since that is off-topic here (want to
focus on "radios"), but for those interested, just do a Google search
on "EMP Faraday," and several informative articles will result.

Now, as I look things over, I'm getting more and more intrigued with
purchasing a Degen/Kaito 1103 portable.

So, where can I find this model at the lowest price? Also, should I
stick with a Kaito (for the American market), or can I consider a
Degen? (I heard the walwart with the Degen is not for U.S. voltages.)

Thoughts? Recommendations?

Thanks!

Roger


David February 5th 06 07:04 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 17:13:03 GMT, Roger
wrote:

I thank everyone for replying to my inquiry about the best small
portable MW-SW-FM radio meeting my list of specs.

With regards to the various "Faraday Cage" comments, I'll not reply to
them in any substantive way since that is off-topic here (want to
focus on "radios"), but for those interested, just do a Google search
on "EMP Faraday," and several informative articles will result.

Now, as I look things over, I'm getting more and more intrigued with
purchasing a Degen/Kaito 1103 portable.

So, where can I find this model at the lowest price? Also, should I
stick with a Kaito (for the American market), or can I consider a
Degen? (I heard the walwart with the Degen is not for U.S. voltages.)

Thoughts? Recommendations?

Thanks!

Roger

I think your money would be better spent on some psychotherapy.


Roger February 5th 06 07:19 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
David wrote:
Roger wrote:


Now, as I look things over, I'm getting more and more intrigued
with purchasing a Degen/Kaito 1103 portable.

So, where can I find this model at the lowest price? Also, should I
stick with a Kaito (for the American market), or can I consider a
Degen? (I heard the walwart with the Degen is not for U.S.
voltages.)


I think your money would be better spent on some psychotherapy.


*laugh*

Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did not
take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito 1103
with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103 is
a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the 1103's
performance in several important categories appears to be better than
the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.

Comments?

Thanks.

Roger


[email protected] February 5th 06 07:42 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
He called him/herlf a P....
cuhulin


David February 5th 06 07:44 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 19:19:28 GMT, Roger
wrote:

David wrote:
Roger wrote:


Now, as I look things over, I'm getting more and more intrigued
with purchasing a Degen/Kaito 1103 portable.

So, where can I find this model at the lowest price? Also, should I
stick with a Kaito (for the American market), or can I consider a
Degen? (I heard the walwart with the Degen is not for U.S.
voltages.)


I think your money would be better spent on some psychotherapy.


*laugh*

Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did not
take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito 1103
with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103 is
a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the 1103's
performance in several important categories appears to be better than
the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.

Comments?

Thanks.

Roger

What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.


[email protected] February 5th 06 07:47 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was:"Ultra" portable MW-SW-F...
 
Good old galvanized metal garbage cans,,, the best Faraday "cages" on
planet Earth.
cuhulin


[email protected] February 5th 06 07:52 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was:"Ultra" portable MW-SW-F...
 
Go buy some Sony 7600GR's.Or buy a Watkins Johnson Radio.Dont mess with
that sissy greasy kidstuff
cuhulin


Roger February 5th 06 08:03 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
David wrote:
Roger wrote:


Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did
not take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito
1103 with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103
is a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the
1103's performance in several important categories appears to be
better than the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.


What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.


Er, ok.

Anyway, I'm considering using the Degen as my daily listener, and
relegating the DX-399 to storage. So I am interested in the here and
now ("pre-Cheney bomb".)

So, let's get back on track and compare. Let's compare the relative
sensitivity (MW-SW), and audio quality using earbuds between the
following "ultra" portable models:

Sangean PT-80
Sangean ATS-606 (essentially same as Radio Shack DX-399)
Degen/Kaito 1103
Sony ICF-SW7600GR
Sony ICF-SW100

(Of course, there's a great variation in price, and in features. The
ATS-606/DX-399 does not have SSB, which to me is not important, but to
others is important. When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a
no-brainer to get -- I should have bought two.)

I'm sure a couple others could be added to the above list, but they
should not be any larger than the largest already there.

Roger


[email protected] February 5th 06 08:33 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was:"Ultra" portable MW-SW-F...
 
I will keep on listening to www.us963.com cheney doesn't worry
me.My Hero,in Gulfport,Mississippi (Dr.Ben Marble) told that chicken
S..t piece of S..T!!!! cheney where to go! Tora! Tora! Tora! movie is
just now crankin up on Radio tv.I am Out.
cuhulin


[email protected] February 5th 06 09:12 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
The Sangean 909 is aka the Radio Shack DX-398, which I also acquired at
the same time that I acquired the DX-399. The DX-399 is about the half
the size. It is really a terrific choice for a backpacking tour of
Europe, Australia, Asia, etc. What a gem.


[email protected] February 5th 06 09:14 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 

David wrote:


What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.



Broadcsats of Miss Nude Islam, with our host Osama from the Iranian
Capital ??


[email protected] February 5th 06 09:29 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
"When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a no-brainer to get --
I should have bought two.)"

No, I bought the other one.


Stinger February 5th 06 10:08 PM

"Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM receiver recommendations?
 
The Sony SW07 is the best ultra-portable made -- but it ain't cheap.

-- Stinger

"Jim" wrote in message
...
you will never beat that dx-399! the only choice is to get another one
or spend more money than you did on the dx to get a higher class model.
after the dx-399 any thing less is not acceptable.




David February 5th 06 11:36 PM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:03:10 GMT, Roger
wrote:

David wrote:
Roger wrote:


Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did
not take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito
1103 with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103
is a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the
1103's performance in several important categories appears to be
better than the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.


What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.


Er, ok.

Anyway, I'm considering using the Degen as my daily listener, and
relegating the DX-399 to storage. So I am interested in the here and
now ("pre-Cheney bomb".)

So, let's get back on track and compare. Let's compare the relative
sensitivity (MW-SW), and audio quality using earbuds between the
following "ultra" portable models:

Sangean PT-80
Sangean ATS-606 (essentially same as Radio Shack DX-399)
Degen/Kaito 1103
Sony ICF-SW7600GR
Sony ICF-SW100

(Of course, there's a great variation in price, and in features. The
ATS-606/DX-399 does not have SSB, which to me is not important, but to
others is important. When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a
no-brainer to get -- I should have bought two.)

I'm sure a couple others could be added to the above list, but they
should not be any larger than the largest already there.

Roger

I'm not a big fan of Sony. They break.

I have an ATS-606A (it has 1 KHz fine tuning). I enjoy it. The PT-80
intrigues me.


running dogg February 6th 06 03:11 AM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
David wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 19:19:28 GMT, Roger
wrote:

David wrote:
Roger wrote:


Now, as I look things over, I'm getting more and more intrigued
with purchasing a Degen/Kaito 1103 portable.

So, where can I find this model at the lowest price? Also, should I
stick with a Kaito (for the American market), or can I consider a
Degen? (I heard the walwart with the Degen is not for U.S.
voltages.)


I think your money would be better spent on some psychotherapy.


*laugh*

Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did not
take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito 1103
with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103 is
a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the 1103's
performance in several important categories appears to be better than
the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.

Comments?

Thanks.

Roger

What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.


Will everything everywhere be wiped out by the bomb? Will all
transmitters be wiped out? I figure that Europe will be spared, and thus
I can listen to the BBC. EMP covers a narrowly defined area. You can't
get it to cover whole continents unless you send it REALLY high up in
the atmosphere. The only rogue state with ICBMs is North Korea, and if
Kim would launch anything, he'd launch an actual bomb instead of an EMP
device. Of course, the USA could send up an EMP device over Iraq, but
they already have ways to counter cell phone triggered IEDs (now the
insurgents run wires).



running dogg February 6th 06 03:21 AM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
wrote:


David wrote:


What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.



Broadcsats of Miss Nude Islam, with our host Osama from the Iranian
Capital ??


Isn't "Miss Nude Islam" an oxymoron? In fact, isn't the beauty pageant
considered to be against Islam? In fact, we'd probably have Dialing For
Jihad, an imam will say a prayer to help your car bombing be successful,
and will read appropriate verses from the Quran. All for 499 riyals.
We'd have game shows like Tribal Feud, people try to guess what Muhammad
actually said (And the Prophet Says...) with the winners killing the
losers. We'd have Jerry Springer like shows: My Wife Shows Her Ankles In
Public! The host would give the husband a scimitar to behead his whorish
wife with, then the audience would attack each other. Ah, the brave new
world of the universal Islamic caliphate!


running dogg February 6th 06 03:31 AM

Degen/Kaito 1103 (where to get?) (was: "Ultra" portable MW-SW-FM...)
 
Roger wrote:

David wrote:
Roger wrote:


Well, David recommended I look at the Sangean PT-80 ProTravel, so I
assume his comment about me needing psychotherapy is because I did
not take his recommendation.

David (and others), how does the PT-80 compare to the Degen/Kaito
1103 with respect to MW and SW reception performance?

I save quite a chunk of change going with the 1103, plus the 1103
is a little smaller and lighter. Also, my research indicates the
1103's performance in several important categories appears to be
better than the PT-80. To me, it seems like a no-brainer.


What do you plan on listening to after Cheney detonates his bomb?
Anything left on the air will most likely be disinformation.


Er, ok.

Anyway, I'm considering using the Degen as my daily listener, and
relegating the DX-399 to storage. So I am interested in the here and
now ("pre-Cheney bomb".)

So, let's get back on track and compare. Let's compare the relative
sensitivity (MW-SW), and audio quality using earbuds between the
following "ultra" portable models:

Sangean PT-80
Sangean ATS-606 (essentially same as Radio Shack DX-399)
Degen/Kaito 1103
Sony ICF-SW7600GR
Sony ICF-SW100

(Of course, there's a great variation in price, and in features. The
ATS-606/DX-399 does not have SSB, which to me is not important, but to
others is important. When I bought my DX-399, I paid ~$35, so it was a
no-brainer to get -- I should have bought two.)

I'm sure a couple others could be added to the above list, but they
should not be any larger than the largest already there.

Roger


Well, you won't find as good of a deal as Radio Shack had. The PT-80 is
cheap and is a better clock than a radio, according to Passport. If you
like the 606, get another one, but you won't get it for anywhere near
$35. If you want a Degen (either the 1103 or the sister rx the 1102)
then you can find new ones for $50 on Ebay. If you want a Sony, you'll
pay through the nose ($150 for the 7600-IF you can find one). When there
are better, cheaper portables out there, why bother? Bottom line: if you
want an identical twin to what you've got, buy the Sangean. If price is
a concern, buy the Degen. Oh, and ignore David, he's a weirdo.



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