"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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Suppose all the radio stations switch to iboc = In Behest Of Commie,fed
fascist govt.What happens to our Analog radios then? Way I see
it,concerning In Behest Of Commie,fed fascist govt = iboc,there will be
a lot of fed govt Commies making a lot of money.

HD, like FM stereo, is backwards compatible. You hear an analog signal on
current radios, and it detects and switches to the HD signal on an HD
radio.



"Even Mr. Struble of iBiquity put the most optimistic date for an analog
shutdown as 12 years from now, though he thought that was unlikely."

By the way I read this, Bob Struble, President, CEO and Chairman of iBiquity
Digital Corporation, is anticipating an analog shutdown sometime after 2018.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/28/te...gewanted=print

So, please reassure us. Tell us Bob Struble was misquoted by the New York
Times. Tell us analog radio will remain for HD radio receivers to be
compatible with.

Just saying HD radio is currently compatible with analog doesn't really
address the point, does it?

Frank Dresser

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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So, please reassure us. Tell us Bob Struble was misquoted by the New York
Times. Tell us analog radio will remain for HD radio receivers to be
compatible with.

I took the context of the post I replied to te be "today" and not 12 years
in the future. By tha6t time, most of today's analog receivers will be gone,
irrespective of the nature of broadcasting over a decade from now.

Just saying HD radio is currently compatible with analog doesn't really
address the point, does it?

Sure it does. How many electronic devices that are 12 years old are
currently being used in the average household? R-390's don't count, btw.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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So, please reassure us. Tell us Bob Struble was misquoted by the New York
Times. Tell us analog radio will remain for HD radio receivers to be
compatible with.

I took the context of the post I replied to te be "today" and not 12 years
in the future. By tha6t time, most of today's analog receivers will be gone,
irrespective of the nature of broadcasting over a decade from now.
Just saying HD radio is currently compatible with analog doesn't really
address the point, does it?

Sure it does. How many electronic devices that are 12 years old are
currently being used in the average household? R-390's don't count, btw.




Except for the DVD players, all my TV/Video gear. With the exception
of the XM receiver, the Fanfare tuners, and my studio gear, all my audio
hardware. The microwave is an AMANA commercial unit that I bought in
'86. The radio in my office is Proton 300 I bought in the early 90's
and my clock radio is a Proton 320 from '88.

You don't want to know about what's in my radio room.

Quite a bit of the electronics in my house is 12+ and counting. And
of the people I know, I'm the radical one whose stuff is 'all new.'


There's a bit more out there than Marketing would have you believe.

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:47:28 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:


Except for the DVD players, all my TV/Video gear. With the exception
of the XM receiver, the Fanfare tuners, and my studio gear, all my audio
hardware. The microwave is an AMANA commercial unit that I bought in
'86. The radio in my office is Proton 300 I bought in the early 90's
and my clock radio is a Proton 320 from '88.

You don't want to know about what's in my radio room.

Quite a bit of the electronics in my house is 12+ and counting. And
of the people I know, I'm the radical one whose stuff is 'all new.'


Except for my radios and speakers, I buy new CE stuff about every 3
years. The state of the art is usually an order of magnitude advanced
by that time.

"David Eduardo" wrote:


Sure it does. How many electronic devices that are 12 years old are
currently being used in the average household? R-390's don't count, btw.


My microwave, my main TV, my small portable TVs, my Rotel reciver, my
speakers, my video source switch, my audio source switch, my VCR, my
laserdisk player. My DVD player is approaching that age. My clocks,
my last car (and its AM-stereo receiver)... hell, even my CF light
bulbs are coming up on 10 years!

Not everyone buys something new every year. Not everyone *can*. Some
things are also so good that they really aren't improved upon -- I'd
like to see a receiver/tuner that's better than my Rotel. Good
freakin' luck.


--
Eric F. Richards,
"It's the Din of iBiquity." -- Frank Dresser

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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So, please reassure us. Tell us Bob Struble was misquoted by the New
York
Times. Tell us analog radio will remain for HD radio receivers to be
compatible with.

I took the context of the post I replied to te be "today" and not 12 years
in the future. By tha6t time, most of today's analog receivers will be
gone,
irrespective of the nature of broadcasting over a decade from now.

The cheap radios will be gone and replaced with other cheap radios. Most of
the better radios will still be around.

Just saying HD radio is currently compatible with analog doesn't really
address the point, does it?

Sure it does. How many electronic devices that are 12 years old are
currently being used in the average household? R-390's don't count, btw.



In my case, aside from a VCR, a DVD player, an electronic camera and a DX
440, nearly all of my electronic devices are over 12 years old. But I'm
just one person, and as we've learned from these discussions, any one person
means nothing. Well, one person means nothing unless he can put something
after his name like "President and CEO" or "Chairman of the FCC".

Anyway, R-390s count more in considering the lifecycle of radios than other
electronic devices such as cellphones, personal computers and MP3 players.
Although all the other electronic devices may have a bright future in audio
entertainment.

What the hell is wrong with those Luddites, anyway? Thanks to digital
technology, people will be listening to what they want when they want!
Can't the Luddites see the newfangled digital threat poised at good 'ol Big
Radio? Why, the profits of our favorite networks may be diluted!!

Damn Luddites. They're never there when you need them.

Frank Dresser

In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. com...

wrote in message
...
Suppose all the radio stations switch to iboc = In Behest Of
Commie,fed fascist govt.What happens to our Analog radios then?
Way I see it,concerning In Behest Of Commie,fed fascist govt =
iboc,there will be a lot of fed govt Commies making a lot of
money.

HD, like FM stereo, is backwards compatible. You hear an analog
signal on current radios, and it detects and switches to the HD
signal on an HD
radio.



"Even Mr. Struble of iBiquity put the most optimistic date for an
analog shutdown as 12 years from now, though he thought that was
unlikely."

By the way I read this, Bob Struble, President, CEO and Chairman of
iBiquity Digital Corporation, is anticipating an analog shutdown
sometime after 2018.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/28/technology/circuits/28basics.html?ei=5090&en=d7749d9c2348d999&ex=12802 03200&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

So, please reassure us. Tell us Bob Struble was misquoted by the New
York Times. Tell us analog radio will remain for HD radio receivers
to be compatible with.

Just saying HD radio is currently compatible with analog doesn't
really address the point, does it?

The situation would be much better if the band was split up between
analog and digital.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:23:33 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:


The situation would be much better if the band was split up between
analog and digital.

Digital audio broadcasting or DAB is a technology for broadcasting
audio programming in digital form that was designed in the late 1980s.
The original objectives of converting to digital systems were to
enable higher fidelity, greater noise immunity, mobile services, and
new services, but sadly DAB now invariably offers audio quality that
is lower than that available on FM.

The acronym DAB is used both to identify the generic technology of
digital audio broadcasting, and specific technical standards,
particularly the Eureka 147 standard described below. Standardization
of DAB technology is promoted by the World DAB Forum, which represents
more than 30 countries but excluding the United States, which has
opted instead for a system called HD Radio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_audio_broadcasting