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Buzzygirl March 28th 06 01:36 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?

Jackie



Telamon March 28th 06 02:11 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
In article ,
"Buzzygirl" wrote:

Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?


The R8 I once owned worked fine for over a decade. The receivers I own
now are in the single digits in years.

The 7030+ display backlight is failing and I'll have to do something
about it. Any advice appreciated about the display going dark. It looks
like LED's are used for back lighting and they are failing. Some times
they go on and off so it looks like cracked solder connections to the
back lighting LEDs. The display is metal shielded so it looks like a
project to take apart if it is possible to even do that without
destroying the display.

The Drake R8B no problems so far.

The RX-340 had the bulb for the S-meter open. I replaced it with white
LEDS. It looks great and I fiddled with the dropping resistor to it so
the meter illumination and the other displays are balanced. Also had the
receiver quit on me altogether at one point. That problem turned out to
be cracked solder connections in the switching power supply board at the
output connector. All I had to do to fix that was reflow the solder on
the circuit board.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Bob Miller March 28th 06 03:12 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:36:25 -0600, "Buzzygirl"
wrote:

Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?

Jackie


Got my Japan Radio Company NRD 525 receiver in 1988. Almost daily use.
Never a hiccup.

bob
k5qwg

d March 28th 06 04:12 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Zenith A600 Trans-Oceanic made in late '57.

So far, so good.

[email protected] March 28th 06 04:28 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 

Radio Shack Realistic DX 160. Bought new about 1976 and still runs as
well as it did 30 years ago. Needed no repairs. Its not the worlds
greatest rxr and has had more than its share of shelf time but I still
drag it out from time to time. Original dial lights still work.
Bob


Frank Hucklenbroich March 28th 06 08:14 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Am Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:36:25 -0600 schrieb Buzzygirl:

Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?


I still got a Grundig Satellite 400 from 1988. I still sometimes use it on
travel, only fault is that the dial is going difficult now (I did take it
in my backpackt to Madagascar where it did get a bit damaged).

At home I still use my NRD 525 G from 1990. Never any problem with it.

Regards,

Frank

Bill Mutch March 28th 06 02:49 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Buzzygirl wrote:
Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?

Jackie


My NC-125 was built in the late fifties. I bought it used in the mid
seventies, so I've had it for more than thirty years. I partially
recapped it, re-tubed and re-alined it last year. It still works rather
nicely, thanks.

David March 28th 06 03:31 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:49:24 -0500, Bill Mutch
wrote:

Buzzygirl wrote:
Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?

Jackie


My NC-125 was built in the late fifties. I bought it used in the mid
seventies, so I've had it for more than thirty years. I partially
recapped it, re-tubed and re-alined it last year. It still works rather
nicely, thanks.


I have one of those I'm saving for after the Iranian EMP bomb.


Michael Lawson March 28th 06 04:41 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 

"Buzzygirl" wrote in message
. ..
Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have

owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and

are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point

during their
long lives?


My old DX-440 from 1989 is still working fine, and I
occasionally use it so that the kids will get a chance
to play with it.

The oldest radio that I own that still works is the
Hallicrafters SX-100 Mk1, which I obtained last
year. It's it pretty good shape; some recapping
(which I didn't get to this winter) and some other
work will bring it back to great condition.

The Hallicrafters S-20R Sky Champion would have
been working, if I hadn't gotten the idea in my head
to replace the driver on it. It's been in a state of
disrepair for the past 10 years.

--Mike L.



Carter, K8VT March 28th 06 06:42 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Buzzygirl wrote:
Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?


My early '40s vintage SX-28 is still going strong, although it needed a
partial recapping. The R-390 hasn't needed anything.

If you wanted to ask about medium wave, my 1916 Navy loose coupler
crystal set still works fine, other than occasionally having to look for
a new hot spot on the galena. ;-)

P.S. Tip for SX-28 owners--watch out for the coupling capacitors on the
6V6 grids. If they go and you don't catch them in time, they could take
out the (replaceable) 6V6s and the unobtainium output transformer.

Joe Analssandrini March 28th 06 06:44 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Dear Jackie,

On April 6, 1962 I bought a Lafayette HE-10 ($79.95) and its associated
speaker HE-11 ($7.95) along with a pair of Lafayette headphones
($1.49).

Being dissastisfied with those headphones, on July 27, 1962 I bought a
pair of Clevite Brush BA-200 headphones ($14.79) and headphone cushions
($0.73).

For over thirty-eight years, until I bought my Grundig Satellit 800 in
June of 2000, this was my primary shortwave receiver.

Except for a few tube replacements and a couple of full alignments
(just to make sure!) over the years, it has always operated as it did
when I first removed it from its box.

Now owning the aforementioned Grundig and an AOR AR7030 Plus
(factory-customized), I do not use the Lafayette much anymore. I ALWAYS
use it on April 6, its "birthday," (It'll be 44 this year.) but, aside
from reliability and its operation, which I LOVE - there's nothing like
heavy flywheel-weighted tuning knobs (TWO of them in fact), its overall
performance cannot compare to a modern receiver.

But I'll never sell it! It's really nice to "fire it up" and relive my
youth every once in a while.

Over the years I tried to replace it, most notably with a Radio Shack
DX-400 which I purchased in May 1984. But that set was not in the same
"ballpark" as the Lafayette, digital tuning and triple conversion
notwithstanding. Until I bought the Satellit 800 and then later the
AR7030, I had not found any radio which satisfied me the way that old
Lafayette did.

My first portable shortwave radio was a Hitachi KH-1108S which I
purchased on June 26, 1969. The only "servicing" this radio has had
over the years is battery replacement (4 alkaline D cells last about
three years!) and a thorough exterior cleaning which I did a couple of
years ago - it now looks like "new" (except for the leather case which
has hardened and cracked in places). I still use this radio, for local
MW boadcasts - rarely for SW or FM, daily.

Best,

Joe


March 28th 06 11:47 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:44:43 UTC, "Joe Analssandrini"
wrote:

Dear Jackie,

On April 6, 1962 I bought a Lafayette HE-10 ($79.95) and its associated
speaker HE-11 ($7.95) along with a pair of Lafayette headphones
($1.49).

Being dissastisfied with those headphones, on July 27, 1962 I bought a
pair of Clevite Brush BA-200 headphones ($14.79) and headphone cushions
($0.73).

For over thirty-eight years, until I bought my Grundig Satellit 800 in
June of 2000, this was my primary shortwave receiver.

Except for a few tube replacements and a couple of full alignments
(just to make sure!) over the years, it has always operated as it did
when I first removed it from its box.

Now owning the aforementioned Grundig and an AOR AR7030 Plus
(factory-customized), I do not use the Lafayette much anymore. I ALWAYS
use it on April 6, its "birthday," (It'll be 44 this year.) but, aside
from reliability and its operation, which I LOVE - there's nothing like
heavy flywheel-weighted tuning knobs (TWO of them in fact), its overall
performance cannot compare to a modern receiver.

But I'll never sell it! It's really nice to "fire it up" and relive my
youth every once in a while.

Over the years I tried to replace it, most notably with a Radio Shack
DX-400 which I purchased in May 1984. But that set was not in the same
"ballpark" as the Lafayette, digital tuning and triple conversion
notwithstanding. Until I bought the Satellit 800 and then later the
AR7030, I had not found any radio which satisfied me the way that old
Lafayette did.

My first portable shortwave radio was a Hitachi KH-1108S which I
purchased on June 26, 1969. The only "servicing" this radio has had
over the years is battery replacement (4 alkaline D cells last about
three years!) and a thorough exterior cleaning which I did a couple of
years ago - it now looks like "new" (except for the leather case which
has hardened and cracked in places). I still use this radio, for local
MW boadcasts - rarely for SW or FM, daily.

Best,

Joe

I have been looking for an HE-10 for years! It is almost like my
S-38, but it is much better. Would you consider selling it/or trade
selling it for something? I have an excellent RF-2200.
Bob Grimes

--
"What do you mean there's no movie?"

Jim March 29th 06 12:08 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
the radio i had in my miss-spent youth was a beautiful 1947 firestone
console. it had 6v6 push-pull output, a great sounding 12 inch speaker
and a built in rotatable loop antenna. it was still working great in
the early 1980's until i met my wife. spending lots of time with her
(you know, i had a new toy!) i neglected my listening for two months.
that was just enough time for a family of mice to move in and destroy
everything! i didnt know and the first chance i had to use the old girl
was the last! the fire left no chance of a re-build. we held a solemn
funeral later as my friends carried her still beautiful carcass out and
laid her to rest. (it still chokes me up just thinking about it!) you
never get over your first! oh well......i still have the wife, it was a
good trade........i guess........


pltrgyst March 29th 06 05:10 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 

My original ARC-5 BC-454, purchased in 1959 on Radio Row in NYC, is still
working happily. It's on its third power supply, though. 8;)

-- Larry


clifto March 29th 06 07:10 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
m II wrote:
Jim wrote:
i still have the wife, it was a
good trade........i guess........


Maybe not. Radios get mice, but I hear wives get bats.


I thought it was owls.

Wait, maybe I'm thinking of hooters.

--
All relevant people are pertinent.
All rude people are impertinent.
Therefore, no rude people are relevant.
-- Solomon W. Golomb

Han March 29th 06 12:33 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
I own an Grundig sat 210 amateur( it was buitl between 1969 and 1973) ,
I bought it about 25 years ago. And it has 2 failures: 1 defect on
first Rf stage : this is fixed. 2 ddefect switch for external
antenna.By pushing the button down and locking it with a pin it works.

Alll by all, in combination with my remote controlled remote mediumwave
loop it is perfect : extrem sensible and a perfect audio.

Greetings Han


you can also visit my website with recordings below 30 MHz.
http://home.wanadoo.nl/hanhardonk/indexengels.html


Bill Mutch March 30th 06 03:29 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Bill Mutch wrote:
Buzzygirl wrote:

Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned
that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are
you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during
their
long lives?

Jackie


My NC-125 was built in the late fifties. I bought it used in the mid
seventies, so I've had it for more than thirty years. I partially
recapped it, re-tubed and re-alined it last year. It still works rather
nicely, thanks.


Oh, I forgot...I have a BC348Q built in 1943...also re-tubed and
re-alined last year. I know nothing of this radios history during WWII
and know only a couple of its post war civilian owners. This radio was
built to survive near misses from 37 mm cannon fire...perhaps it has.
It still works well today.

[email protected] March 30th 06 06:36 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
Hallicrafters S-38EB radio and a Grundig AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph
wooden cabinet floor model radio (I say it was built by Telefunken
because everything in the two little owners/operators pamphlets that
came with the radio refer only to Telefunken as far as brand name
goes,but on the front grill is a warped [warped from age,I guess] pot
metal thingy that says Grundig and the only date I can find in only one
of the two owners/operators pamphlets/booklets says 1957) and a Grundig
Opus 7 AM/FM/Shortwave wooden cabinet radio.

I dont know which of those three radios is the oldest.I still need to
locate a power cord for my Grundig Opus 7 radio so I can try it out and
see if it works,when I bought the radio at a Goodwill store,the power
cord was missing.The other two radios (which I also bought at a Goodwill
store do still work,but I dont doubt they need some recapping or
whatever and a good tune up so they will work as good as new and I dont
know how to work on radios.
cuhulin


toTaLhAt April 2nd 06 03:21 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:36:25 -0600, "Buzzygirl"
wrote:

Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?

Jackie



Why - my Satellit 800 of course!!


Ah - OK April fools....

David April 2nd 06 04:13 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 02:53:20 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:

toTaLhAt wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:36:25 -0600, "Buzzygirl"
wrote:

Just curious to hear about shortwave receivers that people have owned that
are their longest-operating receivers. How long did they last, and are you
still using them? Did they require major overhaul at any point during their
long lives?

Jackie



I'm still using my grandfather's Hammarlund Super-Pro. (BC-794) At
least 50 years old.

It's been retubed over the years. Aligned every 5, and will be
recapped this spring.


My R8B has been on continuously since I bought it over 7 years ago.


David April 2nd 06 01:06 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:02:59 -0600, wrote:

On the average,my lightbulbs in my house POP and blow out about evey two
and a half weeks.I wont change though,I am wayyyyy tooooooo old
fashioned.For me,it is and always will be the good old fashioned
incadescant light bulbs.I dont like flourescent and led lights.
cuhulin

You are wasting huge amounts of money.


Carter, K8VT April 2nd 06 03:24 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
wrote:
On the average,my lightbulbs in my house POP and blow out about evey two
and a half weeks.


Typo or do they really blow every two and a half *WEEKS*???

If your time statement is correct, you have an electrical problem,
probably an intermittent neutral in the power feed to your house. Call
your power provider.(Even though the cheap Chinese bulbs they sell now
have a short life, it's not that short).

[email protected] April 3rd 06 10:47 PM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
I use G.E.Reveal 60 watt light bulbs and they average about two and a
half weeks, (I never turn off my kitchen and bathroom lights,,, wasting
money?) before they burn out,once in a while,one of them will last about
a week longer.I once bought a flourescent light bulb about fifteen years
ago at a W.T.Grant store that was going out of business,that lightbulb
lasted over thirteen years before it finally burned out,but I still
prefer to use incadescent old style light bulbs.
cuhulin


Caveat Lector April 3rd 06 11:05 PM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
Since 1901 !!!!!
URL:
http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/time_m...lightbulb.html

Better still -- check up on the old bulb -- live video -- URL:
http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !


wrote in message
...
I use G.E.Reveal 60 watt light bulbs and they average about two and a
half weeks, (I never turn off my kitchen and bathroom lights,,, wasting
money?) before they burn out,once in a while,one of them will last about
a week longer.I once bought a flourescent light bulb about fifteen years
ago at a W.T.Grant store that was going out of business,that lightbulb
lasted over thirteen years before it finally burned out,but I still
prefer to use incadescent old style light bulbs.
cuhulin




David April 4th 06 12:25 AM

Your longest-lasting SW receiver?
 
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:47:17 -0500, wrote:

I use G.E.Reveal 60 watt light bulbs and they average about two and a
half weeks, (I never turn off my kitchen and bathroom lights,,, wasting
money?) before they burn out,once in a while,one of them will last about
a week longer.I once bought a flourescent light bulb about fifteen years
ago at a W.T.Grant store that was going out of business,that lightbulb
lasted over thirteen years before it finally burned out,but I still
prefer to use incadescent old style light bulbs.
cuhulin

That's insane at today's prices for energy. You can get Compact
Fluorescents for about $2 each nowadays and they use 1/5 the
electricity and last 10 times as long.


David April 4th 06 12:30 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:05:21 -0700, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:

Since 1901 !!!!!
URL:
http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/time_m...lightbulb.html

Better still -- check up on the old bulb -- live video -- URL:
http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm



Any bulb will burn for decades if the voltage is low enough.


HFguy April 4th 06 01:26 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
David wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:05:21 -0700, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:


Since 1901 !!!!!
URL:
http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/time_m...lightbulb.html

Better still -- check up on the old bulb -- live video -- URL:
http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm




Any bulb will burn for decades if the voltage is low enough.


Also the fact that it's been on continuously. Incandescent light bulbs
seldom burn out while they are on, unless dropped or hit. Failures are
caused by the current surge when it's turned on. However they must have
had power failures during the many years the bulb has been there. I
wonder how they protect it from surges when the power comes back on.

David April 4th 06 02:04 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:26:27 GMT, HFguy wrote:

David wrote:
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 15:05:21 -0700, "Caveat Lector"
wrote:


Since 1901 !!!!!
URL:
http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/time_m...lightbulb.html

Better still -- check up on the old bulb -- live video -- URL:
http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm




Any bulb will burn for decades if the voltage is low enough.


Also the fact that it's been on continuously. Incandescent light bulbs
seldom burn out while they are on, unless dropped or hit. Failures are
caused by the current surge when it's turned on. However they must have
had power failures during the many years the bulb has been there. I
wonder how they protect it from surges when the power comes back on.


The filament has high resistance. The current never gets high enough
to stress it. I'm surprised it survives earthquakes.


[email protected] April 4th 06 02:42 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
Put a turned on flouresceant light bulb by your radio and,or your
computer and see what happens.

Mississippi produces more electricity than we use in this state and last
year there was talk about a new nuke plant in this State.Have y'all ever
heard of power outages (other than power outages caused by stormy
weather) in Mississippi before? This isn't California or New York City
here.

A few years ago,Duke Energy (or whatever the name of that Duke company
is called?) installed a new steam electricity generating plant somewhere
in the Jackson area.

I dont mind spending more money for old style light bulbs.Those are the
kinds of light bulbs I grew up with and I intend to use them for as long
as I can.
cuhulin


w_tom April 5th 06 01:28 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
HFguy wrote:
David wrote:
Any bulb will burn for decades if the voltage is low enough.


Also the fact that it's been on continuously. Incandescent light bulbs
seldom burn out while they are on, unless dropped or hit. Failures are
caused by the current surge when it's turned on. ...


Every car failed around 200,000 miles. But only failed when it was
started. Therefore starting is the only reason why cars fail. HFguy
uses same logic to 'prove' power cycling damages incandescent bulbs.
He hopes you will believe sound byte reasoning rather than read many
paragraphs of reality.

As taught in Junior High School science, first we learn underlying
principles before we can obtain a fact. Observation alone even proved
spontaneous reproduction.

There is no major shock to incandescent bulbs during power on. As
well documented in so many light bulb industry publications, light
bulbs are damaged by hours of operation - and as David so accurately
noted - excessive voltage. Unlike HFguy, the industry even provides
numbers for what causes light bulb failure. HFguy provides no numbers
because he is promoting subjective speculation as facts.

For example, a voltage increase causes a decrease in bulb life
expectancy exponentially to a power of 13. Raising the 120 volts to
127 volts will cause a light bulb to fail twice as fast. These are
industry numbers found in the same publications that list what causes
light bulb failure. Power cycling is not listed in what causes
incandescent bulb failure - in publications that use science rather
than personal speculation.

Once a light bulb filament is severely damaged (by hours of operation
or excessive voltage), then even a so gentle power on may cause
filament failure. Look at any light bulb that failed during power on.
Before it failed - whether during power on or in constant operation -
black residue from the filament is already apparent inside the glass.
The filament is down to its last ten hour - like the car with over
200,000 miles. Hours of operation cause a filament to vaporize; those
black deposits.

HFguy makes claims by violating what was taught back in Junior High
school. Without first learning underlying principles of how a light
bulb fails, instead, he has proclaimed based only upon observation and
wild speculation. He ignores junior high school science to promote
speculation as if it were fact. Such reasoning also proved Saddam had
weapons of mass destruction.

Incandescent bulb life expectancy is determined by hours of operation
and electrical voltage. Exponentially increase light bulb life
expectancy by minor voltage reductions.

If HFguy is so confident of his proclaimations, then he can cite an
incandescent light bulb manufacturer publication. He cannot. He
speculations are classic junk science - not found where reality is
published.


Telamon April 5th 06 05:59 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
In article .com,
"w_tom" wrote:

Snip

HFguy makes claims by violating what was taught back in Junior High
school. Without first learning underlying principles of how a light
bulb fails, instead, he has proclaimed based only upon observation and
wild speculation. He ignores junior high school science to promote
speculation as if it were fact. Such reasoning also proved Saddam had
weapons of mass destruction.


Snip

Here is a fact for you;- you sir are a known Troll in at least several
news groups. You could say that you are a weapon of mass dissension.

Please keep the same handle so you stay in the kill file.

Plonk

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

HFguy April 5th 06 06:46 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
David wrote:
On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:26:27 GMT, HFguy wrote:

David wrote:

Any bulb will burn for decades if the voltage is low enough.


Also the fact that it's been on continuously. Incandescent light bulbs
seldom burn out while they are on, unless dropped or hit. Failures are
caused by the current surge when it's turned on. However they must have
had power failures during the many years the bulb has been there. I
wonder how they protect it from surges when the power comes back on.



The filament has high resistance. The current never gets high enough
to stress it. I'm surprised it survives earthquakes.


From the 'Great Internet Light Bulb Book':


-WHY BULBS OFTEN BURN OUT WHEN YOU TURN THEM ON-

Many people wonder what goes on when you turn on a light. It is often
annoying that a weak, aging light bulb will not burn out until the next
time you turn it on.
The answer here is with those thin spots in the filament. Since they
have less mass than the less-evaporated parts of the filament, they heat
up more quickly.
Part of the problem is the fact that tungsten, like most metals, has
less resistance when it is cool and more resistance when it is hot. This
explains the current surge that light bulbs draw when they are first
turned on.
When the thin spots have reached the temperature that they would be
running at, the thicker, heavier parts of the filament have not yet
reached their final temperature. This means that the filament's
resistance is still a bit low and excessive current is still flowing.
This causes the thinner parts of the filament to get even hotter while
the rest of the filament is still warming up. This means that the thin
spots, which run too hot anyway, get even hotter when the thicker parts
of the filament have not yet fully warmed up. This is why weak, aging
bulbs can't survive being turned on.

David April 5th 06 02:23 PM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:46:18 GMT, HFguy wrote:


-WHY BULBS OFTEN BURN OUT WHEN YOU TURN THEM ON-

Many people wonder what goes on when you turn on a light. It is often
annoying that a weak, aging light bulb will not burn out until the next
time you turn it on.
The answer here is with those thin spots in the filament. Since they
have less mass than the less-evaporated parts of the filament, they heat
up more quickly.
Part of the problem is the fact that tungsten, like most metals, has
less resistance when it is cool and more resistance when it is hot. This
explains the current surge that light bulbs draw when they are first
turned on.
When the thin spots have reached the temperature that they would be
running at, the thicker, heavier parts of the filament have not yet
reached their final temperature. This means that the filament's
resistance is still a bit low and excessive current is still flowing.
This causes the thinner parts of the filament to get even hotter while
the rest of the filament is still warming up. This means that the thin
spots, which run too hot anyway, get even hotter when the thicker parts
of the filament have not yet fully warmed up. This is why weak, aging
bulbs can't survive being turned on.


Where'd the ''thin spot'' come from?

From the wire overheating and vaporizing the filament.

The higher the Watt rating the lower the internal resistance.


[email protected] April 5th 06 09:04 PM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
I found it! It was looking right straight at me all the time.My old
General Electric A-C Volts meter,that is.(the meter itself is in a
little old style grey metal cabinet,I guess it dates back to the 1940's
or 1950's,but it still works as good as new) It was sitting on a pile of
junk on top of my bigggg olddddd antique trunk (can't see the tree for
the forest is the way it is my house) near my dining room/kitchen door.

(so was my Battery Cell Tester.MAC Quality Tools.Battey Cell
Tester.ET2007.Mac Tools,Inc.Washington Court House,Ohio 43160) I plugged
it in the wall outlet by my couch (oooops,Blueberry doggys couch) and it
is showing a rock steady 120 volts (the needle isn't wavering at all) on
the nose.Nothing wrong with my elecstwicyty here that would be causing
my 60 watt G.E.Reveal incadescant light bulbs to be blowing out.
cuhulin




David April 5th 06 10:30 PM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 15:04:22 -0500, wrote:

I found it! It was looking right straight at me all the time.My old
General Electric A-C Volts meter,that is.(the meter itself is in a
little old style grey metal cabinet,I guess it dates back to the 1940's
or 1950's,but it still works as good as new) It was sitting on a pile of
junk on top of my bigggg olddddd antique trunk (can't see the tree for
the forest is the way it is my house) near my dining room/kitchen door.

(so was my Battery Cell Tester.MAC Quality Tools.Battey Cell
Tester.ET2007.Mac Tools,Inc.Washington Court House,Ohio 43160) I plugged
it in the wall outlet by my couch (oooops,Blueberry doggys couch) and it
is showing a rock steady 120 volts (the needle isn't wavering at all) on
the nose.Nothing wrong with my elecstwicyty here that would be causing
my 60 watt G.E.Reveal incadescant light bulbs to be blowing out.
cuhulin


I think the biggest problem is the fact that it's a G.E. bulb. They
make crap.


[email protected] April 5th 06 11:21 PM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
There used to be a G.E.factory here in Jackson that manufactured
incadescant and flourescent light bulbs.When my old buddy got out of
active duty (U.S.Navy) back in the mid 1960's,he worked there for a
couple of years,then he got a job delivering the U.S.Mail.(he retired
from the U.S.Navy Reserves unit here in Jackson [about 30 years or so]
and the U.S.Post Office too)

I dont believe G.E.makes crappy light bulbs.I own quite a few old
G.E.tube type and transistor radios and most of them work ok.I will keep
on buying and useing G.E.Reveal 60 watt incadescant light bulbs as long
as the stores keep on selling them.By the way,I noticed they sell very
well at the local Jackson stores around here,even though there are tons
of flourescent light bulbs sitting next to the G.E.light bulbs on the
shelves.(in Jackson,we like REAL Light Bulbs)
cuhulin


[email protected] April 5th 06 11:40 PM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
www.google.com History of General Electric

nuff said.
cuhulin


David April 5th 06 11:43 PM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:21:50 -0500, wrote:

There used to be a G.E.factory here in Jackson that manufactured
incadescant and flourescent light bulbs.When my old buddy got out of
active duty (U.S.Navy) back in the mid 1960's,he worked there for a
couple of years,then he got a job delivering the U.S.Mail.(he retired
from the U.S.Navy Reserves unit here in Jackson [about 30 years or so]
and the U.S.Post Office too)

I dont believe G.E.makes crappy light bulbs.I own quite a few old
G.E.tube type and transistor radios and most of them work ok.I will keep
on buying and useing G.E.Reveal 60 watt incadescant light bulbs as long
as the stores keep on selling them.By the way,I noticed they sell very
well at the local Jackson stores around here,even though there are tons
of flourescent light bulbs sitting next to the G.E.light bulbs on the
shelves.(in Jackson,we like REAL Light Bulbs)
cuhulin

http://www.lightsofamerica.com/light-cfl.htm


David April 6th 06 03:19 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:40:33 -0500, wrote:

www.google.com History of General Electric

I used to work for GE.


[email protected] April 6th 06 03:39 AM

Oldest working light bulb (Attn Cuhulin)
 
Ten HUT! (Dat eeese! Stalag 17,Animal)
cuhulin



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