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For those interested in receiver specs, Bob Sherwood has added to and
updated his interesting list of receiver specs.
Still nothing to beat the AOR 7030..!!
Receivers listed are from the oldies like the Kenwood R-600 all the way up
to the most exotic offerings.
See http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
The receivers are ranked according to their "Dynamic Range narrow spaced"
which is one of the most important parameters for that really serious DX of
signals with adjacent channel interference.

Don't take the specs too seriously though, as a good DX friend of mine runs
rings around me when it comes to exotic DX results and he has a modest Yaesu
FRG-7 (Frog) that he swears by.
--
John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
RX Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
Drake SW8 & ERGO software
Sony 7600D GE SRIII
BW XCR 30, Braun T1000, Sangean 818 & 803A.
GE circa 50's radiogram
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx

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JP,

Thank You for posting the Info about the Up-Date
to the Sherwood Engineering "Receiver Test Data"
RCVR DATA = http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Plus your own webpages are a very informative
and an interesting read.
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx

* RF Systems DX-1 Pro Active Antenna
-by- John Plimmer
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/dx1pro.dx

* Kiwa Mediumwave Loop Experiences
-by- John Plimmer
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/kiwa_mw_loop_plimmer.dx

* Pre-Amp Peregrinations - Adventures with RF Pre-Amps
by Advanced Receiver Research and DX Engineering
-by- John H. Bryant and Mark Connelly
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/prea...nt_connelly.dx

* A Second Look at Fabricating Impedance
Transformers for Receiving Antennas
-by- John Bryant with Bill Bowers
and Nick Hall-Patch [VE7DXR]
DXing.info, July 2003
http://www.dxing.info/equipment/impe...er_bryant2.doc


iane ~ RHF

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"John S." wrote in message receiver with the best spec.

And the finest receiver in the world is no substitute for knowlege of
the bands, how tie the receiver properly to one or more antennas, etc.

Amen! An experienced DXers with an average radio can run circles around a
beginner with an expensive, hot rod receiver.

Other aspects of the entire signal chain are often overlooked or too quickly
dismissed. Here's my list of criteria, in descending order of importance:

1. ionospheric propagation
2. antenna(s)
3. receiving location (RF-quiet, noisy, at the beach for sea gain
enhancement, etc.)
4. the DXer's experience
5. receiver
6. luck!

Anyone else with a similar or differing list?

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
www.sdr-1000.blogspot.com

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Guy Atkins wrote:
"John S." wrote in message receiver with the best spec.

And the finest receiver in the world is no substitute for knowlege of
the bands, how tie the receiver properly to one or more antennas, etc.

Amen! An experienced DXers with an average radio can run circles around a
beginner with an expensive, hot rod receiver.

Other aspects of the entire signal chain are often overlooked or too quickly
dismissed. Here's my list of criteria, in descending order of importance:

1. ionospheric propagation
2. antenna(s)
3. receiving location (RF-quiet, noisy, at the beach for sea gain
enhancement, etc.)
4. the DXer's experience
5. receiver
6. luck!



I've often felt like luck was at the top (grin)!

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Guy Atkins wrote:
"John S." wrote in message receiver with the best spec.

And the finest receiver in the world is no substitute for knowlege of
the bands, how tie the receiver properly to one or more antennas, etc.

Amen! An experienced DXers with an average radio can run circles around a
beginner with an expensive, hot rod receiver.

Other aspects of the entire signal chain are often overlooked or too quickly
dismissed. Here's my list of criteria, in descending order of importance:

1. ionospheric propagation
2. antenna(s)
3. receiving location (RF-quiet, noisy, at the beach for sea gain
enhancement, etc.)
4. the DXer's experience
5. receiver
6. luck!

Anyone else with a similar or differing list?

Guy Atkins
Puyallup, WA USA
www.sdr-1000.blogspot.com

I agree with this your list in its order, however, in place of luck I'd
put "Perserverence." You can make your own luck if you keep listening
regardless of your equipment. Conditions are constantly changing.

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On 6 May 2006 18:08:17 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

WM,

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . .
The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/9399

This Is Why {IMHO} - There are more good AM/MW DX 'catches'
Heard with GE Superadios then all other Radios combined.

1 - The Total Number of GE Superadios being used for everyday
and all night {late night} AM/MW Radio Listening.

2 - The Total Number of Daily and Weekly Hours that
the User's of GE Superadios are :
listening, Listening. LISTENING ! to their Radios.

3 - The Numbers Add-Up and Multiply - IF It Is Out-There -
The-Chances-Are someone with a GE Superadio is searching
for it (what ever it is) or will happen on it and one of them will
"Hear It" on a GE Superadio.


sometimes quantity does trump quality - iane ~ RHF
.
More than car radios? Doubtful.

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On 6 May 2006 18:08:17 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

You need to work on your arithmetic. My CCRadio is simultaneously
tuned to 5 fm, 5 am, 2 weather and 13 tv stations; all at the pop of a
button. My GE SuperRadio is tuned to one station.

bob
k5qwg

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David,

Consider the Read Profile of someone who Reads and Posts
to Rec.Radio.Shortwave - They are NOT your average Radio Listener.

Next consider the Listening Profile of someone who Buys a
GE Superadio to Listen to the Radio Every Day and All Night
and again - They are NOT your average Radio Listener.

Then consider the Listening Profile of someone who simply
owns a Car / Truck and Listens to the Radio in it while they
are in it Driving down the Road of Life - Now "They" ARE
your very average casual Radio Listener with :
* One-Eye-on-the-Road
* One-Ear-on-the-Radio
* One-Hand-on-the-Steering- Wheel
* Half a Brain Focused on Traffic
And with the other half of everything just plain doing
something else as they Cruise-Down-the-Road-of-Life !


well that is how i see it ~ RHF

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BM,

When the Man with the Arithmetic
Meets the Man with the Reality . . .
The Man with Reality Wins [.]

In Reality whether you use your CCRadio
or I use my GE Superadio we each can only
Listent to One Radios Station at a Time on
Each Radio.

Using your Logic the Eton E1 could really
Blow Your Mind with 700 Station Memories !

I get by with two ears and one spearker connected to
one Radio tuned to One Station at a Time for my
simple Mind to Process and Understand and Enjoy ~ RHF

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS CanNot...
 

GE Superadios.NO!!!!!! Not unless I find one for a couple of dollars
over yonder at the Goodwill store six tenths of a mile South (South is
always best) of my little doggys couch. GE Superadios = JUNK.
cuhulin

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS CanNot...
 

$75.00 for a GE Superadio.What kind of Hashish are you on?
cuhulin

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS CanNot...
 

Stay the H..l away from ccrane.ccrane are no good junk pedlars. Art Bell
and George Noory Prove that evey night.
cuhulin

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Art STUPID Bell and even Stupider George Afaid to even look at
him/herself in a mirror Noory.
Come on and buy these ccrane sangean super duper radios!

You can buy just as good or even better at the dollar stores.
This,I Know for a Fact.
cuhulin

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Older model car radios are the best,or among the best,for DXing.
cuhulin

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS CanNot...
 

Them car radios from the 1950's.You can't find better DXing radios than
them,,,,, I don't care if you own an $80,000 super anything other kind
of radio.
cuhulin

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David,

Yes there are 100s of Thousands of Truckers on the Open Road
but most are not Looking for AM/MW DX like many of the
GE Superadio Owners are . . .

Just like how many Open Road Trucker have a Shortwave Radio
in their trucks and Listen to it while they are Driving -Not Many !

Most likely many Truckers have an XM or Sirius Satellite Radio
and get what ever programming when ever everywhere anytime.

i will see you on down the road david - stay tuned ~ RHF

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
 

BM - The Brain is Truly a Wonderful ThinK ~ RHF

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
 

John S. - "And an unusual human mind able to process
an equal number of audio inputs all at the same time."

Conductors of Symphony Orchestras - Do Just That ! ~ RHF

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
 

RHF wrote:
John S. - "And an unusual human mind able to process
an equal number of audio inputs all at the same time."

Conductors of Symphony Orchestras - Do Just That ! ~ RHF
.
.
.
. .
.

Given the repitition involved I there is a difference!!

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
 

On Sun, 07 May 2006 20:16:54 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Try working as a broadcast engineer at a small TV station where you
run multiple cameras, the audio board, load film or tape and monitor the
TV and AM transmitter by yourself. I did this for a year, while in the
US army. I read Sci-Fi books and watched another TV station for
entertainment while doing all of the above while working from sign on to
sign off for at least seven days out of each two week period.

Right now I have three computers running, while listening to WSM over
the internet and I have a TV on in the corner.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Sounds like somebody's still in the US Army...

BTW: Sirius carries WSM.

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
 

On Sun, 07 May 2006 20:29:36 GMT, Bob Miller
wrote:

On Sun, 07 May 2006 20:16:54 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Bob Miller wrote:

On 6 May 2006 21:03:56 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

BM,

When the Man with the Arithmetic
Meets the Man with the Reality . . .
The Man with Reality Wins [.]

In Reality whether you use your CCRadio
or I use my GE Superadio we each can only
Listent to One Radios Station at a Time on
Each Radio.

My two ears multi-task -- hearing the nightly TV news, with 80 meter
chatter in the bg, monitoring 2 meter traffic, the computer streaming
Air America, the weather radio on alert; all happening simultaneously.


Try working as a broadcast engineer at a small TV station where you
run multiple cameras, the audio board, load film or tape and monitor the
TV and AM transmitter by yourself. I did this for a year, while in the
US army. I read Sci-Fi books and watched another TV station for
entertainment while doing all of the above while working from sign on to
sign off for at least seven days out of each two week period.

I used to produce radio and TV commercials, and I was in awe of the
so-called "engineers" who could run a monster board, several tape
machines and assorted sweetening equipment, all without missing a
beat.

That would be me. Technical Director NABET Group 7A.

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
 

On Sun, 07 May 2006 20:12:28 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:



Why? Some receivers use multiple L.O.s in the same band to receive
multiple channels at the same time, and its a simple task to mix
multiple audio sources, or CDs would sound even worse than they already
do. You don't need 24 speakers to listen to a 24 channel recording.

Huh?!?

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS CanNot...
 

On Sun, 07 May 2006 13:23:53 GMT, David wrote:

On Sun, 07 May 2006 08:19:11 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



wrote:

$75.00 for a GE Superadio.What kind of Hashish are you on?

I just checked the prices of SOLD Superadio II's on eBay and the average price
works out to $89.98.

I have seen them go as high as $175.00 or so.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Like eBay reflects reality.

Any 1960 vintage 5 tube superhet will run circles around a
''Superradio''.

Hardly. The reason folks like the GE radio is that it has a tuned RF
stage to get good reception fed to a decent speaker so you get decent
sound. The 6 D cell batteries last days not hours a a sound level
that is usefull in a decent sized room. That's assuming you can't use
the power cord. The 5 tube superhet's were no better if as good for
reception but forget battery life. Most did not do FM.

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not Be Ignored [.]
 

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Bob Miller wrote:

On 6 May 2006 21:03:56 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

BM,

When the Man with the Arithmetic
Meets the Man with the Reality . . .
The Man with Reality Wins [.]

In Reality whether you use your CCRadio
or I use my GE Superadio we each can only
Listent to One Radios Station at a Time on
Each Radio.

My two ears multi-task -- hearing the nightly TV news, with 80
meter
chatter in the bg, monitoring 2 meter traffic, the computer
streaming
Air America, the weather radio on alert; all happening
simultaneously.


Try working as a broadcast engineer at a small TV station where
you
run multiple cameras, the audio board, load film or tape and monitor
the
TV and AM transmitter by yourself. I did this for a year, while in
the
US army. I read Sci-Fi books and watched another TV station for
entertainment while doing all of the above while working from sign
on to
sign off for at least seven days out of each two week period.

Right now I have three computers running, while listening to WSM
over
the internet and I have a TV on in the corner.

Heh. I knew a guy who worked on CGI graphics in my
previous company who used to have a similar setup
in his cubicle (just swap the television for another
workstation). He used to quip, "It's not just a job,
it's a CAT scan."

--Mike L.

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RS Can Not BeIgnored [.]
 

Michael Lawson wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
Bob Miller wrote:

On 6 May 2006 21:03:56 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

BM,

When the Man with the Arithmetic
Meets the Man with the Reality . . .
The Man with Reality Wins [.]

In Reality whether you use your CCRadio
or I use my GE Superadio we each can only
Listent to One Radios Station at a Time on
Each Radio.

My two ears multi-task -- hearing the nightly TV news, with 80
meter
chatter in the bg, monitoring 2 meter traffic, the computer
streaming
Air America, the weather radio on alert; all happening
simultaneously.


Try working as a broadcast engineer at a small TV station where
you
run multiple cameras, the audio board, load film or tape and monitor
the
TV and AM transmitter by yourself. I did this for a year, while in
the
US army. I read Sci-Fi books and watched another TV station for
entertainment while doing all of the above while working from sign
on to
sign off for at least seven days out of each two week period.

Right now I have three computers running, while listening to WSM
over
the internet and I have a TV on in the corner.

Heh. I knew a guy who worked on CGI graphics in my
previous company who used to have a similar setup
in his cubicle (just swap the television for another
workstation). He used to quip, "It's not just a job,
it's a CAT scan."

--Mike L.

These days I repair computers, design web sites and read the
newsgroups at the same time. No cats allowed around here, though. :)

I do have this around the house from time to time:
http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/photos.html


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

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David wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2006 22:32:33 -0500, wrote:
There isn't any G.E.radio in the World worth more than thirty
dollars.Dream on,you little diaper.

General Electric builds crap.

They used to build some very sensitive radios. I still have a "transistor
radio" type GE AM radio that rivals anything I've seen for sensitivity.
I've played with modifying the AGC and it made it even more sensitive.
Biggest problem it has is the small analog dial; very hard to tune small
increments.

--
All relevant people are pertinent.
All rude people are impertinent.
Therefore, no rude people are relevant.
-- Solomon W. Golomb

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On Tue, 09 May 2006 17:34:38 -0500, clifto wrote:

David wrote:
On Sun, 7 May 2006 22:32:33 -0500, wrote:
There isn't any G.E.radio in the World worth more than thirty
dollars.Dream on,you little diaper.

General Electric builds crap.

They used to build some very sensitive radios. I still have a "transistor
radio" type GE AM radio that rivals anything I've seen for sensitivity.
I've played with modifying the AGC and it made it even more sensitive.
Biggest problem it has is the small analog dial; very hard to tune small
increments.

That was before Jack Welch and Six Sigma.

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On 10 May 2006 12:17:26 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DaviD - Next time that you Fly in an Aeroplane there
is a good chance that the Engines will be built by GE
- - - David fly, Fly. FLY Away !
http://www.rapoportlaw.com/news_unitedsiouxcity.html

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On 12 May 2006 02:23:05 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:

DaviD - Most Aeroplane Accidents End On-the-Ground ~ RHF
.
A hour before the plane crash the General Electric turbine in the
center engine landed in a corn field.

GE Superadios - Not ! - But Sometimes . . . The NUMB3RSCanNot...
 

So,which companies do you think build the best Aircraft Engines,Aircraft
Engines that have never failed,either in the Air or on the Ground?
Heck,I dont know.I dont know which are all of the companies nowdays
which build Aircraft Engines.I can think of a few of them though.I guess
I could look them up on the internet,but I can't see why I would want
to.Mechanical thingys do fail,sometimes,they are not perfect.I think
G.E.Aircraft Engines are A OK.
cuhulin
.................................................. ..
In search of the Perfect Aircraft Engine which has a Lifetime
Guarantee,and I love Aircraft,but I dont like to Fly.God would have
given me Wings if I was meant to Fly.
.................................................. .